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  1. My posts have been pro science, anti racist and a few others inbetween. Guilty as charged!
  2. Yes, I know a fair bit about virology and vaccines. Not an expert by any strengh. But more importantly I work with people that are experts and work on viruses, and have worked on sar-cov-2. And I trust them. So when you hear people say you can't isolate a virus... well, it's just false at the end of the day. It is a vaccine. The argument that it isn't is pure semantics and disingenuous.
  3. I would be against mandatory vaccines. Would be very surprised if it went that way. There is a strong history of medicine by consent in this country and I don't see the government crossing that line. I'm not saying it's impossible. Government has said no way as an option. But they have been known to change their minds! Vaccine passports, less of a redline for me. Again don't think the government will impose this, but private industry may.
  4. Keep your hate to yourself. You must be an angry bitter human being. How about start looking at your own flaws before attacking others. You've got your life in order, have you? I very much doubt it.
  5. Everyone is seriously pissed off with these restrictions and now Christmas has been cancelled in some areas. My take, which is very different to others in here, is that the vaccine should not be public enemy no. 1. The vaccine is the one thing that is going to put a stop to this in the near future. I know about problem reaction solution. Don't think it applies here. The theories about what the plan is for this vaccine just don't hold up to scrutiny. The trials were done and now around 350,000 people have had take it. When do you expect the adverse reactions to start? (by adverse reactions I mean anything above the statistically norm). After 1 million? 5 million? There will be no significant adverse reactions. Next couple of months will be tough. And we need to look after our mental health. Obsessing over evil vaccines isn't going to help you and you will see in 3-4 months, the anxiety was not warranted. Get outside, take up a hobby, call a friend. Stay safe.
  6. Have you got the link to see this chart in its context? Not disputing influenza cases are significantly down but there's some aspects of the charts that are confusing me. No mention of northern or southern hemisphere which is unusual as most analysis of influenza is broken down into the 2 hemispheres as they are distinct seasons. The starting year doesn't make sense to me either, is it meant to be 2019? If so, why doesn't it say it. I read the chart as week 1 = January. So it follows the expected pattern as influenza would reduce to minimal levels around late March/April (week 12). It's a bit confusing but the original source would be good if you have it.
  7. They were lovely! But that's the problem. My experience was a very brief one but was enough to see the foundations on which they have built their belief system on - and they were rotten to the core. I saw advertising for a free personality test outside one of their buildings. I had interest in all things alternative and I knew this was one of their recruitment methods, so I went in as I'm curious by nature. I was greeted by a lovely lady who gave me a cup of tea and talked me through the process. She handed me a personality test and left the room. I completed it as honestly as I could, it was mostly standard questions to determine if one is an extrovert or introvert etc. But there were the few odd ones thrown in. Do you suffer from night terrors? Do you suffer from unconscious jerks or tics? There were others questions like this but can't quite remember now. I thought they were odd questions at the time. The lady came back, took my results and fed them through a computer. That generated a personality profile and she then started to probe. She was interpreting an over simplified chart and trying to find weaknesses in me as a person. Imagine trying put an entire human being's personality onto one a4 piece of paper! Ludicrous. So she went into my childhood, desperately searching for some kind of trauma to latch onto. She asked if my father ever beat me. I said no. Then all still smiles, she asked if my mother beat me! The whole thing was basically 'come on, you must be damaged somehow, you must have some trauma in your life'. I felt under pressure to find something and she was looking stupid at this point. I said, "well, I lost my granddad a few years ago". She jumped straight onto it, started pointing to her chart saying how that explains a lot. I tried to tell her he was a 93 year old man and it was a natural passing. But, she had found her 'weakness' and was trying to exploit it. She told me Scientology could help me heal myself. Gave me lots of examples of how it helped others and told me how to join. But I saw right through it, saw the psychological tricks, the exploitation. I don't know if you've ever seen Derren Brown but he demonstrates what these charlatans can do and how effective it can be. Psychics use the trickery a lot when doing seances. I was out of there sharpish. Fortunately, I was in quite a good place in my life and was psychologically strong enough not to be exploited. But if I was in another place, perhaps had recent actual traumatic events in my life, then I may have been more vulnerable to their methods. So I saw first hand their recruitment methods, they find a weakness (we've all got them) and they exploit them for their own financial and power gains. Stay away from cults and stay away from belief systems in general.
  8. I agree. I don't think JP is a conman, guess it depends on what you think the con is in the first place though. I really enjoy his psychological take on things. His depth of knowledge on the human condition is impressive and he has helped perhaps millions of people better themselves through personal development. He suffers from depression himself so understands the mechanisms needed to keep afloat in this chaotic world. He clearly is passionate about what he believes in and I don't think he's in anyone elses pocket. A true free thinker. His bible talks from a psychological perspective are really good and I'm saying that as a staunch atheist. He's actually softened my views on religion. I used to be quite militant against all religions but now I can understand them from a psychological viewpoint.
  9. Cult for me. I had personal experience of their recruitment methods. They prey of those who are struggling already and jump on their vulnerabilities.
  10. I was happy to draw a line under this, but okay... 'nurses' are not a hive personality. They are individuals. Some nurses made videos. Do you see how important the word 'some' is here. It completely changes the context. The better question to ask is what % of nurses were frolicking about making videos? I don't know the answer - but I am confident it was not a significant number. My girlfriend is a nurse, and she couldn't stand those videos. So not even all nurses agree with each other. Yet, you've lumped all nurses together, the exact charge you put at me! Even the people on your side of the debate about covid can see the double logical flaws. Are you trolling me? It was me who had the rigid belief system when I was balls deep in the truth movement! I hope one day in the future you can laugh about all of this. The extreme end of the truth movement is like being in opposite land. Everything is flipped 100%. Zero nuance. How is that not rigid? When I thought I was questioning everything, I was only taking in certain information, when I thought I was critically thinking, I was just consuming information feed to me across the internet. Technology has moved on, I wouldn't be surprised if AI are generating misinformation and sending it around the internet. I try not to have a belief system at all anymore. I agree with Jordan Peterson about the dangers of ideologues. Left and Right. An ideology places filters that we are not aware of and distorts how we view the world.
  11. I agree, not entirely fair to lump everyone into one category. Although the truthers tend to do that themselves of course - elites, politicians, the medical establishment, sheeple, bankers, zionists etc, even people having a go at 'nurses' on here! But you're right, people are on here for all different reasons. The thing with the rabbit hole, is that it widens as you go down, which I find interesting. The beliefs tend to normally go in one direction, from rational to less and less rational (IMO and experience). People seem to rarely fall back into a less extreme position once they are fully absorbed into an extreme one. Which makes sense as if you erode an element of reality on one level, the possibilities in the levels below become wider and wider and therefore more plausible. I'll step back from this thread as we are in danger of taking over it. There was one video that was posted to me as a reply in another thread I think. I am going to watch it a few more times and respond. Other than that, nothing is really gained by playing top trumps with each other's truths. All the best.
  12. So personal insults thrown into a civil discussion. And now you're wishing death on someone that disagrees with you. Can't really pass judgement as I was in your shoes once. When you go too far into the the global conspiracy, it ends up consuming you with hate. I was filled with it - hate for everyone who wasn't in on our little secret. So much for David Icke's message of love. He even found it in him to find love for the people causing humanity harm - he said he loved George Bush. Yet, you can't even keep your hatred contained to an anonymous poster on an internet forum. I've come through the other side of the belief system and can reflect back on the psychological mechanisms that underpin it. The way it bands us together, makes us think we know secrets others don't, makes us feel special and important because we can decode the world. Makes us feel superior to others. Shelters us from uncomfortable truths about human nature and complex geo-politics. We're probably more similar than you think, I even noticed Macnamara and I have suggested the same pieces of work in the Suggestions sub-forum. We both read the works of Joseph Campbell, but we clash on whether covid is part of the global conspiracy or not. That's fine. I think the fundamental difference between who I am now and who I was as a truther, is that now I am capable of viewing things differently without slotting them into pre-conceived ideas. I can see that America isn't 100% evil. They have done good things. And some of their bad things had good intentions. I can still also point to the very bad things as you all can. I can see that the U.K government isn't 100% evil. The Tories have raised taxes on second homes - that's not what Tories are meant to do! I used to think nation states were mere illusions too, the same hand controls both sides theory. What I am trying to say is that things are nuanced. People are feeding us a black & white picture of the world like we're children. When I was a believer before there was nothing anyone could have said to change my opinion. I was a fundamentalist in my beliefs. I decided to leave the fundamentalism to murderous cowards like ISIS. For an idea of how the world really works, try taking at look at Adam Curtis' documentaries.
  13. I'm afraid you can look for yourself. I don't believe copying and pasting snapshots of information is useful in getting to the truth. It often lacks content and it is too easy to manipulate to fit the poster's agenda. But I didn't have to look long on the ONS site to see the 'its not worse than the flu' argument just doesn't stand up. If I had my truther hat on, I would just question the data on ONS site as being unreliable because it comes from a government body and go back to my infallible worldview. Another benefit of writing down or thinking through ideas and theories is that as you are thinking about them, you apply rules and logical filters during the process. The process can actually make you look at something in a different light before you've even articulated it. Copy and pasting or even looking at information that has been copied and pasted, can by-pass our ability to look at things rationally.
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