Eldnah

Doing none of those I stated clearly what i wouldnt accept as evidence - i ignored your calls for what i would accept because quite frankly - i wont accept unsubstantiated gossip where evidence amounts to he was in the same country (or words to that effect) was far less restrictive and gave many more avenues with which to present evidence. Fair enough

Re the bold It was supposed to read that calling all the afforementioned Paedophiles makes a change from them normally being attacked as being Jews. It wasnt intended to suggest you normally called them jews. Please accept my apology for the inferance, It really was no more than a case of being how the line was interperated . If it wasnt clear my fault.

Refusing to call him something without proof isnt defending him. Asking for proof isnt defending him Pointing out the good things he has done you could say was defending him - equally you could just say i was presenting what i knew of the man and why i wasnt jumping on the bandwagon. I do not care what you or others think of him - but a contrary opinion is sometimes needed lest this place become an echo chamber

This again - I repeat My account screwed up on switchover i couldnt get it to accept a retry with name, or email - nor would it accept the password details or let me use my email to change it. Eldnah was simply a quick unimaginative stand in cool or funny or hiding never came into it Never said i was offended by it I said it was impolite and offensive to do it on the families web page as some have - but id say that if someone did that on yours - its crass and says a lot motre about those that do it than those they speak of. I didnt express any view about it being written on here or facebook etc - its not as if a family member will see it. Again nothing to do with who they are but how we should treat all people.

I gave no one any orders - I didnt give any instructions I simply asked for proof rather than the usual unsubstantited and frequently proven false allegations. As for pro royalist no - im not really as I explained - Im not bothered by them one way or another - im only pro royalist in the sense that i see no point getting rid of them and having a US style media frenzy to pretend to choose which other elite we will give the top job. At least this way they are a political - not beholden to supporters and we know their history As I say more leave it as is ist than royalist. Incidently as a French man im also a republican by default. On topic as regards Phillip He did a lot for disadvantaged Youths, Environment and Industry Oh and for his quick thinking saving his ship in 43 he gets my respect for those , I feel he deserves it for them.

No youre celebrating their life at the funeral / wake not their actual death Subtle distinction. We had a happy party at my sisters funeral - we were not celebrating her being dead

So thats a no - you have no proof just your absolute belief in your the elites must all be Paedos religion. Given the lack of evidence and yet the way its adherants tolerate no other thoughts a religious cults exactly what it is.

Absolute envy based bullshit someone has something you dont so you will latch on any wild story by equally pathetic folk to attack them. Celebrities all paedos world leaders all Paedos Royals all Paedos Bankers Judges all Paedos Which admittadly makes a change froms Jews but its all the same - I dont have what they have - They must be part of an evil plot to be successful and thus im not a pathetic failure im opressed. As fo queens han and orphanage - as i said they were on the other side of the continent Fuck i was in Europe I must have stole Maddie - i never realise Fucking spite fuelled hoop the lot of it

Ah right the old - If you shake a paedophiles hand its because you to are a paedophille Interesting Ive never touched a child inapropriatly yet by your logic i must be a paedophile Truly moronic logic there

Ive never been sure of the context of that was it tongue in cheek or was he really trying to emphasise the issue of overpopulation. Ive never seen the actual clip - just heard how the media spun it (always suspicious that) I will disagree with that - unlike Bono and lots of others who tell us we should stop travelling, give to charity and pay more taxes (as they fly to a tax haven to deposit their cash) - The Dof E did do a lot for both the environment and youths in deprived areas. So i would say hypocrit is perhaps unjust. His death makes little difference to me - I didnt know him. I am i suppose a reluctant monarchist** but I do find it unpleasant that people post on the palace twitter page nasty comments and false allegations - regardless of how you feel about somebody he was their husband/ father / son etc politness and decorum and plain old decency should stop people from harrassing a grieving widow **Simply because what we have works and replacing it would probably cost more and result in a US style media circus every 4 years - so not so much a monachist as an if its not broke leave it be ist

Please feel free to produce 1 piece of evidence he was a paedophile I mean real proof not the usual he was in the royal family and therefore must be a racist child molesting Jewish Nazi and once visited a country where 3000 miles away a child disappeared usually bandied about as evididence

Does look like it could be an old / model

My 1st thought as well - but could confirm either way

Not convinced in the slightest thats actually a shipping container They always have square cross section / square framed cross section (eg oil tanks in container frame - for loading purposes - image clearly shows sloped roof corner section. Film prop / simulator / other perhaps - have to ask why they managed to get such good high quality interior shots yet a really poor unlit exterior shot - almost as if it was intentionally so as the exterior would not support the claim However shipping containers are used as hospitals / accomodation so it would be no great suprise to find images containing seats beds equipment - carefully missapropriated to create fake "evidence". Smuggling containers dont have seats and facilities - that would reduce how many you can cram in thus reduce profits. Its not as if the human traffickers care about the cargo .

Im not disagreeing with you - but i havent heard speeding or undermanned Ive heard mechanical failure (engines) and very low speed loss of steering - with wind blowing it to the bank My point viz 8kts = about 13 kph was simply to offer an explanation as to how those of us asking questions could get confused as I say - i myself saw 14 and because it was a ship imiddiatly thought kts wheras its KMH - so I was passing duff info by mistake (since corrected of course) So rather than disagreeing - im saying i cant yet agree or even disagree because the info just isnt there. I think theres lots of speculation - with wind speed being the only thing we can be sure of at the moment Edit - I do think a lot of the theories are really off base especially those related to them trying to hide the name because they call it ever given not evergreen - If you cant research well enough to know the ships name then it doesnt bode well really.