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You've said no. Just ignore them and dont waste precious time and energy on it. Its not worth it :)

Yes and sadly there are a lot of 'useless' things in this world.

Oh sorry, I forgot. Clearly you are one of those "real men" *sigh*

Why do you think that I need to explain the governments or Priti Patels actions? Are you suggesting that they actually give two hoots about the safety of women and aren't simply using Sarah Everards murder as a very convenient bandwagon to jump upon/whip on in their relentless quest for control and removal of liberties (for all of us, not just men)? It's clear that you personally can't seem to accept or even cope with the concept that there are many women who do not need or want men to protect them. You may view it as your right, purpose and role as a man but that doesn't mean all women agree and it certainly isn't your right to force the concept on them (or anyone) as some kind of divine, unassailable fact. You seem unable to comprehend that that a woman can be strong for herself and not need a man to defend her like some medieval maid in distress but at the same time that said woman still loves, respects, values and appreciates the men she has in her life. That you can't comprehend or accept this says more about your lack of emotional maturity/intelligence and ego than is does about women. I find your attitude quite frankly pitiful but having worked in a male dominated environment all my adult life it's one I have seen ad nauseum from many men over the years. I found it irksome, pitiful and really rather sad decades ago and still feel very much the same way.

And also very regressive in certain gene pools.

I've been hearing/reading people saying this for years now. What does it even really mean? Even if more people are 'awake' (personally I cant stand the 'awake' terminology, its so arrogant, egotistical and superior) what's the point if they lack the backbone to do anything about what they have allegedly woken up to? What does being 'awake' matter without any action? It's really just a meaningless sop people use to try and convince themselves and others that things are changing for the better in the human collective consciousness. I think about all the awareness that was allegedly created out of the 9/11 situation. Where has it got us? Nowhere. People are saying the same old thing about 'more' people being 'awake' that they've been saying for years whilst in reality nothing has changed for the better in fact quite the opposite. I had to go to the supermarket last week. I was the only person in the large, busy Tesco store not wearing a mask. The only one. Look at what so many parents are allowing the state to do to their kids even after a year and more than enough opportunity to see what's really going on. Look at the example they are setting the next generation, teaching them to be passive receptors of oppression and totalitarianism. Cowards creating more cowards with no will or wit to stand up for themselves. I know there is a core of people trying to stand up and fight back but we are still very much in the minority. even amongst the so called 'awake' population everyone seems to want someone else to fix it all for them or are waiting for some kind of messiah to come and save them. If people still cant/wont see by now that the only ones who can save us are ourselves then what hope is there really? Sorry, I know I sound very negative but I now find it impossible to be optimistic after a year of this crap. I've never despaired of the human race so much in my entire life as I do now. I can no longer find any sympathy in me towards those who are still buying in to the covid scam after a year. Their willful ignorance has caused so many needless deaths and such acute harm to so many. I utterly despise the ignorant, cowardly zombies still shuffling around in their masks, still indulging and wallowing in the covid propaganda and fear mongering.

Good for you and your poor fragile little male ego.

Great thread - thank you :)

You clearly have an attitude problem when it comes to women and for whatever reason cant bear the thought of not been needed to 'protect' and 'defend'. Thats your issue. Thankfully there are lots of men out there who treat women like equal partners and dont cry over their wounded male egos just because a woman is able and happy to be independant.

You mean about men? I have never needed or wanted a man to protect or defend me in any of my adult life. Many women are the same. I'm very happily married and have been with my husband for 25 year but I neither expect or want him to defend me as Im more than capable of doing it myself. We both have each others back as we are partners but its got nothing to do with one gender having the job of protecting the other (or however many genders we are supposed to believe in these days). Why do so many men seem intimidated by independent women? Why do they see it as some kind of slur on their 'manhood'? Why do they even think its all about them at all? Why is that so very difficult for some men (and women) to comprehend? Is that all some men think they are on the earth for, to protect women? I think they need to sort out their egos.

I'd say and do exactly the same. Dont assume everyone is an immoral and unprincipled arsehole. I have walked my talk in my life and know exactly who I am when the chips are down. Can you say the same about yourself?

You're preaching to the choir :)

This is a Sarah Everard thread.

Crisis actor or just coincidence?

I would want the kids and the most vulnerable off the ship first regardless of gender, skin colour, age etc. Why do you have such a problem? Why does it seem incomprehensible to you that many women can quite happily look after themselves and don't need or even want a man to take care of them?

What hypocrisy? I am a woman and I have never needed or expected any man (or any person come to that) to defend or protect me.

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Hi Kestrel For what it's worth I would keep it very simple and give them as little to argue against as possible. Personally I would say something along the lines of 'I understand the covid injections (dont refer to it as a vaccine) are in trials. Once the trials have been concluded in and all the data has been gathered I will be happy to review it and consider my decision then.' Its factual, short and gives them as little as possible to argue against. What do you think?

It certainly wont work for all those people who have regular injections for other conditions such as Insulin, B12 etc!

Because no woman can possibly protect herself right? What an attitude.

I could not agree with your post any more. I worked in engineering for over 20 years. I know what I was subjected to and no, I'm not a feminist, woke woman lacking in any sense of humour either and never have been. The curfew for men is patently ridiculous and not something I would ever support. What I would welcome is a more honest reflection amongst men about what they consider banter. Its not that most men dont know deep down. I believe this is evidenced in the way you can often see it in the way so many men are happy for a date to be one thing, want a steady girlfriend to be another, a wife to be something totally different and to almost lock a daughter up in a castle tower to keep her safe!

I'm just horrified and upset to have witnessed it :( These patients only lacked capacity due to confusion brought on by infections, dehydration etc. After a few days of fluids and treatment they were perfectly coherent but could not recall being asked to have the covid jab. I have no respect or trust for all those NHS nurses and doctors who have failed to speak and who are complicit in this. I despise the lot of them. No excuses. There is no such thing as 'not being able' to speak out. What they really mean is that they are worried if they speak out they will lose their jobs and therefore they chose their job over patients lives. No one forces them to stay uiet - they choose to stay quiet out of pure self interest and cowardice. This is utterly unforgivable and I hope karma catches up with them asap.

I've just been in hospital for five days on a 30 bed acute surgical ward. I was absolutely horrified to see elderly patients being asked to have the covid vaccine. These patients were very unwell (with issues NOT related to covid or respiratory), were confused (ie didnt even know where they were or what their name was) and clearly did not have the capacity to make clear informed decisions and to give informed consent. As there are no visitors allowed (even to the lady dying in the bay next to me) there is no one to safeguard these patients and to advocate for them. They are basically having the covid vaccine forced on them with no informed consent. This must be happening all over the country and is utterly disgraceful - what the hell is happening in the NHS that nurses and doctors feel this is acceptable and ethical??? Why aren't nurses considering strike action over this abhorrent situation rather than their 1% pay rise?

220,000 out of 66,000,000 is just 0.3%. After a year of all this covid rubbish and lies that figure depresses the hell out of me even when trying to account for other influencing factors.