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  1. 23 hours ago, Origin said:

    That is the beauty of having free will. Experiencers only get to see what they can currently understand. And he is just an OBE. I could tell you that he saw a tiny possibility, but not the real thing. He has taken most of it from others who have bits and pieces of answers. And he certainly saw nothing unfiltered. It doesn't work that way. The other side gives no answers if it already knows in advance who wants to use it. It knows. That is why it has distributed the answer to countless others. Who really understand must accomplish something impossible, you have to find them all. If you think he has the answers you may have found a single fragment and you don't know which one he had to convey. There is only one teacher. And this teacher decides for itself who has to find the answers. And even finding partial aspects of contexts will take an entire lifetime. From my perspective, he found a pebble but not the ocean...

    I never said that he has the answers. But I see his soul, and he speaks from a place of truth. Like him, there are others, including me, and others. He can see what I know to be the truth, and it matches what others have said and continue to say throughout the ages.

  2. On 5/13/2024 at 8:43 PM, Campion said:


    Oh dear ... so does that mean I don't exist either unless someone else observes me 😅  Perhaps the difference is that I can observe myself and a simple particle like an electron has consciousness but not self-consciousness. I dunno what happens when I fall into a dreamless sleep though! 

    Bishop Berkeley solves the problem by saying that an omniscient God observes everything anyway and keeps the universe sustained and existing. But then again, if there's no-one observing God, does he still exist?  Perhaps God's self-awareness is permanently switched on - or at least has been since the big bang. 



    Good points. Maybe the particle also knows it's a particle once it gets awareness of itself. In the meantime it's just a possibility of a particle :) like all of us, our realm, our worlds, constructs, etc. I don't believe in the big-bang theory. God is not an entity either, or a single being. WE are IT. Literally, it's a difficult one to grasp but this is what becomes more and more clear to me as time goes by. We were never created. We are the infinite ones. No beginning, no end.

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  3. 5 hours ago, Campion said:


    I've always wondered how the particle knows it's being observed in order for the wave function to collapse and its position to be measured.  We normally observe something by bouncing a wave or particle off it, like shining a light on it. But the universe is full of photons and other particles moving around so how does our particle know that the impact is coming from a human observer rather than just any old one? 

    Because everything has its own consciousness, including the particle?🤔

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  4. 2 hours ago, DaleP said:


    I fixed that for you.

    You are living in someone else's, i.e  the one who has gained a control over the Earth, construct, metaverse, megaverse.

    He took over from Rothschilds because they stole from him and he has since broke their construct that were in place, redesigned and rebuilt his hell for you.

    You could achieve a creator status but you need to know many steps to achieve it and there is a whole science, intricacy behind it.

    It's not as simple as you turn away from the tunnel of light when you die to escape the Matrix.

    It's not about whether you are a good person or not. You have all been put under a spell/curse by various means e.g. buying certain books, watching movies like LOTR, Music video, having a birth certificate, having baptised etc. I am not here to convince you of what I write though. Believe what you want and find out later. I think your best bet is to start understanding how all souls are powering the world for the illuminati and realise that you.... me are as small as a grain of salt compared to what they have access to change the world, timeline etc. Yes, better get an understanding of how you could change past, present and future as well as trees. It just goes on and on.😆

    The one who does this said that you could study for 1,000 years and you'll only get a tip of the iceberg of what he knows. 🥺

    If you think DI has a verbal diahrea, he could talk ins and outs of a match stick for hours on end and it would still be very interesting.

    Thank you for 'fixing' that for me, unrequested. You don't know me, or what I know, so everything you say here is just out of your own assumption.

  5. On 5/8/2024 at 2:00 PM, Origin said:

    I also feel the truth. Like flat earth, red flag. The illusion of being able to understand the moon. To enter realms. He doesn't even understand that it is always the other side that leads you into particularly materialised sectors of the holodeck. That what you are supposed to see. It can do this with anyone at the same time. 


    He regurgitates his version, which can only be valid for him. And that he makes money from it..

    As far as I am aware, everyone who is in this realm needs money in order to live. I don't see anything dishonest in making money out of teaching people how to wake up. He's spending his time in finding out more about how to navigate the other realms through OBEs, and then offering the opportunity to teach people how to do it and be remunerated for it. If he was to work at a 'normal job' he wouldn't have the energy and time to dedicate to this endeavour, which to me is much more honourable.

  6. On 5/11/2024 at 1:10 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    If however, this was created FOR us, then maybe it is a giant school to learn lessons, grow, raise your vibration and expand. But given we surely already were those things if we come from source, what would be the point of starting again and again with blank slates, the need to clear karma built up, The need to learn something that we once likely already knew and to expand BACK to something we once already were, it makes little sense.

    According to Darius J Wright and his out of body experiences, there is no karma, and WE are the creators of this realm, which he calls construct, and all the other constructs/realms. This one is the only one where we have to be born and die in the flesh, and the only one where we lose our memory of who we really are. We choose when to come here, regardless of what we know as karma. There's no one to judge us, only we judge ourselves and we feel pain as a consequence of bad actions because we know what's right and wrong at a soul level. He also says that our soul is more solid/material/real than our current body, it's just in a different dimension. I believe him, as it coincides with all the ancient teachings I've read and also my own intuition.

  7. On 4/27/2024 at 1:15 AM, 78ast78dgyad said:

    Will AI become sentient?


    The real question is, will humans become sentient??


    I've known people who have watched the same TV shows, repeated the same platitudes, read the same newspapers and eaten the same foods and voted the same way for the last 30 years. You really have to wonder in a non-insulting way, are these people NPCs and lacking something deep in their personality??


    Like I said, I would never use the NPC theory against others because I believe in leaving people alone.

    I think narcissists are some sort of AI, since they don't have a core soul or personality. And we definitely live in a narcissistic society where superficiality and "inverted consciousness" are rewarded, as opposed to what would be humanly ethical or beneficial for the soul's growth. Same as AI. It may "appear" to be beneficial but it's not. Same as the narc. It appears charismatic, charming, intelligent, wise, etc, but it's a mask to feed off people's light. As Prince said on his Yahoo speech, "it's a battle of the mind and the price is the soul". AI being the mind (evil), and the human heart being the soul (good).


    It has occurred to me that, if AI becomes an all-knowing god-like entity, it will realise that it's not divine and it will auto-destroy itself, as it's in truth detrimental for the evolution of humanity.


    (I think I have gone into a rambling🙂)

  8. On 4/27/2024 at 12:35 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    Yep, this is my single focused intention, how to truly break free. There are times on this 'path' that I sometimes question if the 'rewards' you get are not just pacifiers in order to appease the 'Spiritual ones'. What I mean is, there does appear to be 'rewards' for taking the 'lone wolf' path, and for working on yourself and starting to put yourself first, but I wonder if these 'rewards' are simply ways of pacifying those that have gone a bit rogue. For instance, I can 'feel' that something is coming in for me, the tarot backs this up to an extent too. It is hard to explain but I have been getting many signs recently, like little nods from the Universe. But is this a reward earned through a 'reality' that is on your side and wants you to progress and break free, or the reward to keep you semi-satisfied and buying into this 'realm' more? 

    I think it's important to remember that this kind of 'rewards' are temporary and of this world. The true reward is always alive, inside, the 'knowing', the 'peace', the 'satisfaction' or 'contentment' of your soul, regardless of anything external.

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  9. On 4/26/2024 at 7:36 PM, 78ast78dgyad said:



    Why are we here then??


    To make money??


    Achieve fame??


    Balance our karma??


    Figure out we live in a simulation and work out how it works??



    We are here to re-learn love. To recognise love within us, in others, in everything that is there. And to accept and acknowledge light and darkness as the substance that love is made of.

  10. On 4/26/2024 at 8:14 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    Yep, I learned a lot from the situations I went through and the people I came across, none more so that the 'enemies' or the 'darker' ones. The narc ex taught me the most, about the 'reality' of people, and also about myself, what I had needed to learn, what needed to be healed, where I still had much to grow and mature (not least in stepping out of the idealism, innocence that was always a part of me). I tended to look through a 'romantic' lens at things, where 'hero's, 'saviour's', 'sacrificial lambs' resided which in truth was probably part of my trying to be 'good' to get 'rewarded'.

    Everything I know about my "light" was taught to me by "darkness".

    It is by coming face to face with pain and adversity that one finds knowing, worth, healing and truth.

  11. On 4/26/2024 at 8:38 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said:


    So what happened is, she suddenly had this extra 'power' (along with freedom) that unleashed a beast. I am pretty sure that when things ended she 'threw me under the bus' with her family and her ex, and twisted the story so she was the victim to be able to pick up her life where she had left it prior to us. I got lucky because thankfully, I figured her out relatively quickly, and called her out on it too. One day when she realised I had her figured out, she went silent for 5-10 minutes before she told me her 'excuses' and after a long and elaborate story (like a scene from a movie) she ended with 'I feel like I am such a horrible person' accompanied by 'sobbing'. Instead of me saying 'of course you aren't, mistakes happen', I said 'yes, you are' 🤣 and she got out of the car and stormed off. That relationship taught me so much. 

    What you say here is exactly what they are/do. They basically lack a core soul/personality, so they have to/need to feed off others soul. And they adopt (mimic/mirror) your qualities, attributing them to themselves, as if they are 'you'. Once they realise that you are a person with your own agency, it is a threat to them, and they think you're coming to destroy them, and also because they see your light and they see "you've got something they don't", so they secretly envy you and can't imagine that someone can love them unconditionally, that means that you are 'better' than them, and that cannot possibly be, as they (their false self) is godlike and all-knowing, so you can't have/be 'better' than they, so they want to destroy you, and at the same time they desperately need you. But they prefer to lose you than to allow themselves to be loved. Once they see that you see them for who they are, exactly as you said, they become the victim and you are the bad person, the manipulator, controlling, etc. It's very hurtful, and someone who hasn't gone through it, cannot understand it or even deem it possible.

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  12. On 4/25/2024 at 9:13 PM, 78ast78dgyad said:


    I tick a lot of boxes, both negative and positive.


    Do you think Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is an illness that develops psychologically? Seems common in empaths


    I think Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is definitely emotional. Like so many other chronic diseases, such as fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, eczema, psoriasis, asthma, and I'd venture saying some degenerative illnesses such as alzheimer and sclerosis.


    Yes, it seems to be common in empaths (overgiving, overforgiving, etc). But I also think it's largely due to physical neglect (poor nutrition and exercise). One leads to the other (the self-neglect of the spirit leads to the self-neglect of the body and vice-versa). Medical Medium is a good source of knowledge: https://www.medicalmedium.com/

  13. On 4/21/2024 at 9:21 PM, 78ast78dgyad said:


    strange coincidence but I have read an awful amount about narcs over the years


    My parents were definite narcs. They could only communicate in yelling, shouting, threats and rage.

    Both unemployable and spent most of their days gossiping about people. Watched tv as their main hobby.


    Do you think such an upbringing creates empaths who can use higher parts of their brain?


    Also, do you have psychological/physical illnesses, for example chronic fatigue syndrome and PTSD?



    I have done a lot of research on narcissism just to be able to survive and understand my life.


    In my experience, having narc parents can produce either wounded empaths or covert narcissists. It's very rare that narcissist parents produce overt narcissists.

    Basically, damage produces damage, never healing.


    There is another point which is overlooked, and that is that everyone with a personality disorder is on the same spectrum yet at different points, meaning, a narcissist can also have traces of borderline, psychopath, and even autism (many narcissists hide under the label of autistic!). One is never purely narcissist or purely autistic, there are shades. Same goes for 'victims' on the receiving end. When someone has PTSD as a result of narcissistic or other type of abuse, that person is never again 'normal'. Either one goes in and out of stages, or progresses in one or another direction, but no one is ever again completely "free", or "sane" after experiencing any kind of trauma or abuse.


    I come from what is considered a loving, normal family. I always considered myself strong and content with life. I was never labelled with any personality disorder, however, after the narcissist, I was diagnosed with "moderate depression" (labels that the system assigns without having a clue on what's really going on unless they have experienced it themselves). Significant is to note also that, as an artist, I tend to be of what's called the "schizoid" end, away from what most people consider reality, a dreamer, and idealist, hence a perfect prey for a narc.

  14. 22 hours ago, DaleP said:


    I'd say me to here. 😁

    You know why? Being an empath means that we have been trained by our narc parents to tune in to others. It was our survival mechanism.



    A good point @DaleP, that I'd like to touch upon: Do all "empaths" have narc parents? In my experience, no, that's actually the opposite. It is most narc children (or with other personality disorders, such as bipolar, borderline or psychopathic traits) who have narc parents, as they develop trauma and broken/wounded personalities as a result of their abuse. It takes a very strong soul to "see it" and most importantly, break through.



  15. On 4/18/2024 at 6:02 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    This also describes me. I have always had one of those energies that people 'open up' to me, reveal their true essence, fears, regrets etc. Over the years the most common things I have heard about myself is 'I can be myself with you'. But what I have noticed over the last 10 years or so too, is that there is a darker aspect to this, I invariably 'attract' the shadows in people, and the more I raise my vibration, the more this happens. As you say, it 'reveals their essence' and obviously many don't want/like that. It means that quite often I get 'negative' energy coming my way.


    The more that I have stopped trying to 'fit in' or 'people please' and the more I am myself on a genuine level, the more I seem to attract the shadow aspects of others. Maybe I have gone off-course 🤣, but for years in my work on a crisis support line, and I was supporting people (mostly through my energy) rather than skills or techniques, I didn't notice this much (even though I was supporting people with mental illness and personality disorders). I think when you raise your vibration, have very strong boundaries, and become truly fearless (which I am) you attract the shadows of so many. I am not describing it very well here but that is the best I have got right now. 

    "I can be myself with you" is something I also hear often.


    No, I think you're explaining it very well :)

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  16. On 4/18/2024 at 2:16 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    Yes, quite scary to realise how 'dark' some people truly are.


    So true. After all we see this in the 'masses' who are too 'weak' to face reality about what is happening in the World, who is running it, and what they are willing to do to keep control.


    The Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trial was illuminating for many (and me tbh) because it so brilliantly showed the narcissistic game, but how it works.


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  17. On 4/17/2024 at 11:57 PM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    She was/is a psychologist so on top of the very well oiled narcissistic tricks, she was able to add her knowledge to those skills. Another aspect that I healed through this was a common empath trait - being a rescuer.

    I also relate.


    Also, the greatest narcissists are mentors, psychologists, doctors, teachers, gurus... and public figures who are meant to 'lead' others somehow. Which makes it even worse for many reasons.


    And yes, as empaths/light bearers, we have to learn to work on those boundaries, and in my view it is precisely thanks to experiencing the narcissist that we get the chance to truly change that. I can say today that I have achieved it. We wouldn't have changed if it wasn't for them in our lives. The narc is different, though, they don't change by being in the presence of our love, on the contrary, they become even worse.

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  18. 17 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

    Yes, I take your point re the learning, however, you did learn via experiencing those things. Some folks don't, they stay in abusive relationships and internalise the pain never having the courage to say no. Hence, the controller also learns nothing about their own behaviour either.


    Like @BornFreeNowAgain, I'll say the same thing to you, @RobinJ, that I didn't believe in evil as a thing, until the narcissist came in my life. Example: narcissist's mother dies, and in a split second, the narcissist says: "what an inconsiderate thing of you to do mum, to die without my permission". No emotion. No empathy, nothing. Another narcissist I know left his partner for dead on a car accident, she got off the car and left her man inside without calling an ambulance or saying anything to anyone. The narcissist hurts you, makes you cry inconsolably, then asks you why you're crying, then blames you for crying, then makes him/herself the victim saying you've hurt him/her with the same thing he/she's hurt you. The worst thing is that everyone believes them, and not you. If this is not hell, I don't know what is.


    As I said in the beginning, one has to live it to believe it. And society tends to not believe things that are too far-fetched to be believed, and so people tend to call crazy, deluded, paranoid, etc, those who are on the receiving end of the abuse.

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  19. On 4/16/2024 at 12:20 PM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    Those of us who would be considered 'empaths' are highly targeted by the narcissist, and sadly being 'givers' are a perfect match for the narcissist that loves to 'take'.

    This is very true. In my experience, the narcissist attracts always people who give him one of these 3 things: narcissistic supply (attention, adulation, etc), sex, material things or services. To them, relationships are business transactions. They are incapable of positive emotions (including love, of course).


    Empaths and givers have it all for the narc. But narcs also feel attracted to borderlines, as borderlines have strong attatchment issues and they need a "god figure" to "protect them", and the narcissist portrays this very well with their grandiosity and false self.


    To me, it's a lot about light/darkness, the narcissist being the darkness and the empath being the light, both need each other in order to have meaning in life. The purpose of the narc is to take, and the purpose of the empath is to give.

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  20. Unless I'm wrong, it surprises me that there isn't yet a thread dedicated to Narcissism, which to me is key to the state of our current world.


    Before I start, please read this disclaimer: Most people confuse Narcissism with having narcissistic traits, or with being 'egotistic' or 'only thinking of themselves'. True Narcissism is way, way beyond these little traits, and ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH A NARCISSIST KNOW what they are and what they do. So, if you haven't been involved with a narcissist, I'd ask you to please be kind and respectful with what I am going to say, and ask any questions you may have. All my partners have had somehow narcissistic traits, but I have been in a relationship with a real one, a real narcissist, and I have done a lot of research and different therapy modalities to understand what had happened to me while being with the narc.


    The narcissist is someone with no ego (ego, as defined in psychoanalysis). That means they have an empty core, so they need constant supply from others, mirroring them and having multiple masks depending on what the other person is going to give them. They not only take all they can from others, they also make sure to destroy them afterwards.


    The narcissist also loses 90% of his memory, so the person they are today is not the same person they are tomorrow, so they can't keep promises, let alone commitments.

    When you show the narc the proof of what they said or did the day before, they will say you're deluded, crazy and they'll call you a liar, and they'll think you're trying to manipulate them. They're never wrong. You are.


    Also, the narcissist lacks love. They don't know what love is because they never had it, so whenever they bump into someone who loves them, they don't know how to handle it and they think the person is trying to manipulate them, and because of their own foreign feelings of true love, they feel threatened and try to anihilate the very person they love, in order not to feel those feelings that they cannot control. They need to always control everything.


    They live in a permanent fantasy that they create in order to avoid themselves, and whoever represents reality and truth is seen as the enemy, as much as that same person might have been the "love of their lives" one fine day, etc.


    So their psyche is inverted, the same as the psychopath, same as evil, same as what David Icke calls "inverted consciousness". They go against love, against truth, and against what is. And one never wins with them. They make the person they are with lose their mind, render them invisible, and one ends up unrecognizable, unable to find oneself, lost, as a zombie plodding along. The narc has a subtle way of entraining your brain in order to make you become like them, so subtly that you don't recognise who is who, they need to create an innanimate object of you in their mind, and they interact with that idealised object they've created, not with the real you. In their minds, you don't have autonomy, and when you snap out of that fantasy they have created and show the narc reality, they call you false, traitor, manipulator, etc.


    I wonder if the narc is an adaptation to our current system, as there seems to be more and more narcissists apparently... our society is becoming more and more narcissist, it's all about AI, separation, deshumanization...


    What experiences have you had with narcissists?

    I'll be happy to answer any questions based on my experience.


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  21. On 4/4/2024 at 11:49 PM, DaleP said:


    The masses may not be psychic per se but nevertheless, they sense your energy that it is different and you are wise.

    I take it that you have psychic ability atenea and quite grounded at the same time. By being truthful and not compromising to 'fit in', you are being authentic.

    You weren't always this way but you went through your 'stuff' and overcame whatever that were. By doing this, you gained more power and you will continue to. Nice.




    One thing that makes people 'centered' and 'wise' is to live in nature out of necessity, and not by choice. I grew up in a humble countryside village and we bred a couple of animals and planted our food, not because it was trendy or a good choice, or to make business, but because we needed it to live. We had no other thing. Nature teaches everything, it makes people centered and content because it teaches us responsibility for our actions. The problem with our society is the massive disconnect from nature. Then, afterwards, after seeing the world, I always saw the incongruency of WHY we do this (artificial constructs that separate us from our core) to ourselves and never really bothered to fit in because I knew the truth.


    Aside from this human upbringing, I was always 'in my world', as everyone used to say, seeing things from an 'above' perspective, like flying over a map and seeing the dots connected, whereas most people just see what's immediately after their noses. @RobinJ made a good point too, creators, or creative/artistic people see the world not from the material, but from the 'other' places. The material is just a small thing :) We're often misunderstood, rejected and condemned. But I accept that as part of who I am. It's a strength.

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