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  1. It doesent matter what the WHO says. They know why they did it, they know the outcome.

    Admitting something like they do now, only further tries to sell you the idea we have a real threat at hand.

    The only threat there is are these "elite" people, psychopaths by nature.


    When they say something it only has the purpose of pushing the agenda along.


    It might be that a complete lockdown would result into a high risk of pushback and they try to find different means for the same goal.

    It might be that lockdowns are comming anyway and this is just PR speech.


    Their goal is to destroy independent livelihoods, never forget that.

    We know that because they already admitted it and shown it in practice.

    They simply dont care, whatever they say to sell their narrative.


    The term "new normal" should be enough information for anyone in doubt.

    They are criminals and always will be criminals.

  2. 2 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:


    Perhaps just ignoring the silly rules is the best strategy.


    I actually believe its the only way forward. To absolutly stop with whatever they come up with and to not give in.

    We had some big and small protests over the last months and one current theme that occured was that people, despite protesting against these restrictions, wearing masks and kept social distance, to avoid that the police cleared the field. (in my country)

    Thats not how it works. It wont change anything in the long run.

    Of course, the positive is that it makes people aware that there is a growing resistance, but you have to deny all regulations they come up with to be taken seriously.


    They simply wont care if one accepts even the slightest thing.

  3. So on the main page the Sun Magazine brought out an article which i want to discuss.

    It reads:


    "Why do our doom merchant and increasingly desperate scientists believe plunging us into lockdown again is the solution to this ongoing coronavirus pandemic?

    And when will Boris Johnson – once a great libertarian – stand up to the discredited boffins Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance by refusing to curb our basic freedoms any further for measures that simply will not work?

    The World Health Organisation’s special envoy on Covid-19 last week warned there is only one result that comes from locking down entire populations – and it’s certainly not eradicating the disease.


    David Nabarro said: “Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.”

    That poverty is coming to the UK – and fast. The Centre for Economics and Business Research today predicts almost three million folk will be unemployed by Christmas.

    That’s just the beginning and the reason why we can no longer live in a Covid bubble.

    Yet, in October, seven months after the peak of this new disease exported by China, the government is today pushing ahead with plans to lock down some of our biggest cities.

    And the worst is yet to come, with waves of the always-deadly flu set to collide with Covid over winter.


    No one is denying the virus is a serious problem that requires genuine changes to some of the ways we live, like the wearing of masks and some sensible social distancing measures.

    But, with no guarantee of a vaccine, it is implausible to think that lockdowns that were first used for three weeks to protect the NHS are a sensible way forward.

    We must remember that even in March and April, when Covid was an unknown threat, our health service was not overwhelmed. We have learnt so much since then, both in terms of how to treat the illness and how to manage the NHS.


    My fear is that, rather than being an effective tool, the increasingly draconian and nonsensical regulations announced by the Prime Minister today that divide England into three tiers will encourage us to become a nation of liars.


    Is anyone seriously going to believe four blokes in their 50s having dinner at the pub are really part of the same household, for example?

    Will people really stop inviting their friends over for a drink when they’re allowed to catch a packed tube home at 10pm when the ridiculous nationwide curfew kicks in?

    Why is it OK to work in an office surrounded by people all day but it’s not OK to visit relatives from another household?

    None of this makes sense anymore.


    The cure has now become far worse than the disease."


    First the obvious trojan horse.

    The article basically talks about the non-sensical meassurments. We here in germany have the same topic thrown arround on our official media, that the meassurments are in-consequent, because they vary from region to region.


    I want to phrase an important sentence from David Icke:

    Problem - Solution


    They peddle back, admit the non-sensical regulations, only to sell you the idea that there need to be stricter on a nationwide scale.


    This is how backwards the psychology works:

    "Is anyone seriously going to believe four blokes in their 50s having dinner at the pub are really part of the same household, for example?"


    Translation: The 4 blokes should not meet at a pub, because they obviously are not part of the same household.


    "Will people really stop inviting their friends over for a drink when they’re allowed to catch a packed tube home at 10pm when the ridiculous nationwide curfew kicks in?"


    Translation: People should stop inviting their friends


    "No one is denying the virus is a serious problem that requires genuine changes to some of the ways we live, like the wearing of masks and some sensible social distancing measures."


    Of course we are denying it, because there is strong evidence that the virus doesent even exist or as seen isnt dangerous at all. Pick one of the two.

    This means: Masks and social distancing are not required and not mandatory and should be removed instantly.

    But they want you to get used to this idea of wearing them.


    But, with no guarantee of a vaccine, it is implausible to think that lockdowns that were first used for three weeks to protect the NHS are a sensible way forward.


    Again some big nonsense. They want to sell you the idea that the vaccine is the saving grace. It is not. They didnt even isolate the virus, they dont even know what they are testing, they therfor not even can offer a vaccine.


    As seen they are now mixing some truths with lies and this is a typical psychological attack, well known. Two steps forward, one step back. Creating an artificial problem, admitting that problem, wait for the puplic to ask for a solution, offer a solution.


    Dont fall for this nonsense





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  4. On 9/29/2020 at 4:18 AM, John Connor said:

    Not sure if it's been mentioned here or not, but Max Igan has also been banned from youtube.


    I know youtube has a comments section,  but I expect comments to get taken away soon.
    Same reason mainstream NEWS media doesn't have any comments section.
    Same reason Netflix doesn't have a comments section.
    They are making it very hard to communicate with each other.  Expect it to get worse.


    Tbh i think they do it in a case by case basis.

    Communication is also an important factor to gather data. Without data (information) they are blind.

    If you delete all comments, you delete information. Of course this is already done, but in a controlled manner and it will get worse.

    To completly shut it down has side effects and could potentially give way to other platforms, which people then will use to speak their mind.

    It is more important to them to keep you on their platforms, but with cencorship and the like.


    Of course, i cannot say this for certain, anything is possible at this point, but outright deletion of the comment section on all fronts is to me unlikely.

    It is different of course on platforms that never started with a comment section. But youtube always had one, so i have my doubts on that one.


    And lets get real here. Youtube comments barely make an impact most of the time. If you really are intrested in seeking the truth, there is no way arround to get yourself informed properly through different means. A sheep wont rethink its own belief by reading a silly youtube comment. Its actually the other way arround. It tries to confirm its own belief.


    If a video that could be potentially dangerous for them gathers too much traction they still can censor/delete it.

    Look at corbettreport. His channel despite speaking out for 14 years, his youtube channel is still not deleted. (its censored through alghoritms, but not deleted).

  5. 8 hours ago, Staeld said:

    You have to hand it to Sky News Australia for speaking out. This entire segment is warning about the great reset.



    I mean its good that they talk about it, but they also make it seem as if this is an idea that came up due to the fabricated crisis.

    The Great Reset is basically another word for NWO (New World Order), which is a plan/agenda that is already in the making for at least a century.

    The only difference now is  that they come out with it, because they need people get used to this idea, since the meassurments will be more and more extreme by the day.


    What does the dude that lost his business say? He or she is of course angry and searches for answers. There will be a lot of these, because if your plan is to destroy each and every independent livelyhood, you will eventually face an ever growing angry mob. (which they pointed out and already know about)


    Yes, it is good that an official news channel talks about it, but they are still not speaking the whole truth. If they would, youtube bans it in a matter of seconds (for a popular video that reaches a big audience).


    Edit: I refered to youtube because Mitochondrial Eve already posted this video in this thread

  6. On 10/6/2020 at 4:49 PM, FVCK BILLY G4TES said:

    At risk of sounding defeatist here,  I like this idea but if you start mentioning key issues like Rothschild & Zionists on there you get nuked off there by moderators. Reddit is owned by the same people who are trying to enslave us.


    Also ever since Qanon came out, I have my suspicions that Government agencies are on there. I think if you were to actually start spreading the truth you would need a Disk burner. Get as much solid, fact based evidence you can and burn, then distribute house to house with a flyer to compliment, detailing the contents of disk.


    I think that's the only way to pragmatically spread truth. Has it's downsides tho. Mass production is expensive and it could have legal ramifications depending on subject matter. Popo will shut you down if you're caught so there is planning required and maybe a group effort to get something like that done.


    Just an idea but the internet has become a sewer of rats and government plants. You could cut it out entirely and go straight to the people, drop disk through the letterbox, bob's your uncle.


    The system of reddit already caters to a sheep mentality.

    If you are in line with the overall sentiment on any given thread, you get upvoted.

    If you swim against the river, you get downvoted and your comment basically disappears.


    In that way you soly get to see what the majority can agree on and thus all informations you receive elvolves arround herd mentality.

    The very thing we are trying to escape from in the first place.

    That doesent mean that agreeing on something is bad, but it punishes you for having your own unique opinion.


    The same is true on youtube and all the other social platforms.


    That is why i think reddit is not a good platform to discuss these things. If people want to do it, go ahead, try your best, i do not have the energy to beat arround the bush to avoid threads to be deleted or comments to be downvoted.

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  7. Imagine if a casino would be dependend each and everytime on what their costumers bet to not fall into bankrupcy.

    That would be a failed system right?

    Now imagine that the bank always wins, because no matter on what their costumers bet, they always win.

    That would be pretty good right?

    Well, imagine you are the people in power, that always depend on who the citizens of a state and country vote, to not loose all that power.

    That would be a failed system right?

    Now imagine those in power do not really care for who you vote for, because they always stay in power.

    That would be pretty good right?


    Putin 2016:

    "Presidents come and go, and even parties in power come and go, but the systematic policy line does not change.

    So all in all, we do not care who is at the helm in the United States.

    We have a rough idea what is going to happen."


    It would be actually pretty stupid for those in power to be completly dependend on the mood of the population and who they will be voting for, risking their agenda. Of course it really doesent matter who gets voted, as politicans only give you the idea that you get to decide things. But you do not.


    Secondly, even if you believe that you have power as a citizen by vote, lets go through what you really decide:


    a) you dont decide what person in a party gets elected. You soly can pick a party.

    b) you have no influence on any promise a person made before election. They might never do what they said.

    c) you do not decide any specific laws that are put into place, like it is done in switzerland


    And people call that "democracy". Its laughable. But as said, it doesent even matter who wins at the end, because the people in the background do not change.


    Now imagine that the majority of people right now in the US, still think they got to decide something.


    George Carlin:

    "Forget the politicans. The politicans are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice.

    You dont.

    You have no choice. You have owners, they own you. They own everything.

    They own all the important land, they own and control the cooperations, they long since bought and payed for the senate, the congress, the state houses and city halls, they got the judges in their backpockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear.

    They got you by the balls.

    They spend billions of dollars each year lobbying, to get what they want."


    and now think again:

    Imagine that the majority of people right now in the US, still think they got to decide something.


    People in power clap their hands, celebrate on human psyche and how easy all of it is done. They celebrate and people play along.


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  8. Well, i always was intrested in personalities that the majority of puplic seems to demonize and look up what he is saying and how they even came to this conclusion.

    For instance, i didnt know about David Icke at all until recently(7 months), but because people seem to assosiate a guy that talks about lizard people, i got intrested.

    Not because lizard people made sense, but because how he wanted to seriously explain that it makes sense.

    Until now i have yet to see him speak about lizard people (he might have had, but maybe not) and instead he talks common sense on everything that is going on right now, also pointing out that labels were given to him, which he never used. For example the label to support terrorism and  the like.


    So it came true what i already expected. The media writes some headlines and the majority thinks thats what the person is like. Most people do not read any further or research if all those claims even are true. Its enough if you write big headlines with big letters and thats it.


    However, Icke said what i knew for a long time anyway. It isnt something new, its just that he has a certain way of transporting information, which i find fascinating.


    9/11 for instance (which i first hand lived through) never made sense to me and there is plenty for reason for it. But it wasnt until the Syrian War where i could connect the dots for myself. It was to me just US policy and their strive for military control on the planet, circling arround russia.

    Russia has 3 abroad military bases, the Us has 1000. Alone those numbers should make you think.

    Anyways based on 9/11 we have all these justifications for the wars in the middle east and since then the word "terrorism" is in peoples mind as it never was before.


    But lets not get into details about it, its a long list to go through regarding this matter, but there is plenty of information on the web about this topic.

    I highly advice Corbet from the Corbett report, as he provides all sources to his claims and not just throws information out there.


    Point is, Icke is not a personality wildly know in germany, as it might be in the Uk (we have other people talking about the same topics). Its just the way he speaks and brings it together with spirituality which i find fascinating.

  9. On 10/5/2020 at 9:19 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

    From what I can see, we seem to get a lot of signups. Some new members will make one post, then disappear. ("One-post Wonders") Some sign-up to cause a nuisance.


    To the genuine new members who sign up and get involved, I thank you and welcome you on board!


    I signed up a couple of days ago, because the amount of people you can talk to about this matter in RL is limited.

    In the past i could have discussions with people and everyone shared their viewpoint and that was about it. Now though, facing the problems firsthand on your doorstep, its not possible to look the other way and i need to get this out of my system. Talking about these topics with people that simply buy into the official narrative became hostile, as they refuse to listen to anything you might have to say. Its not possible to get through to them, they adopted some shield of some sorts, completly immun to any knowledge outside the box.


    For that very reason i signed up here. Im not agreeing on everything here either, but its a start. Most at the very least think critically and are able to share it, without getting brandmarked for it. (try youtube for instance, you will guaranteed find someone that attacks you for no reason and calls you a conspiracy theorist and the like, which became rather boring. They have really nothing of substance to share which i dont already know. I also dont need a tape recorder that repeats 1 by 1 what you can see up and down on all mainstream platforms anyway)


    So yay, here i am


  10. On 9/28/2020 at 4:09 PM, truthgiverandseeker said:


    But not as thorough as in the One Light book(s). Please take a look at Jon Whistler's work to see this fact for yourself.


    I have been following David's work (and others of the like) for many years now and his work is amazing and very helpful, but just to quote a Trustee of the VOLAH (Vortex of Healing and Light):


    “The same happens with a lot of other spiritual books. The authors may be a little more advanced than others so they are able to enlighten us a bit, but it will be limited to their understanding at the moment. 


    As Zadore is giving us the transmissions from a higher consciousness, the potential for us to grow from that information is enormous.


    Fear is one of the main pillars of the illusion and from that stems many other things. We can gradually recognize the things that keep us in the illusion so we can get ourselves out and I believe it will become clear to us that we are out when we can see the illusion for what it is.”

    From my standpoint, i took Ramana Maharshi talks and whenever he gave a speech when questioned by someone, he always considered from which angle/viewpoint the questioner came from.

    It is comparable to politics and where we stand right now. If you confront a person outright and say: Reality is emptiness and that person has a more religious background, it wont guide that individual anywhere. The whole point of every "teaching" he gave was to animate yourself, to find the truth for yourself by inquiry.

    All talk about spirituality only can be of use to a certain point, until it becomes useless. The main point is soly to wake up and thats it.

    It cannot be teached by words, it can only be found by unconditioned inquiry into the nature of the mind.


    David Icke talks about this "awarness" or "councious state" as well, to keep yourself reminded that you are not little me in a world of objects. It is helpful to keep that knowledge if you feel lost. However, to be completly rid of the illusion of seperation, it only can be done by giving up everything you think you know about yourself, the world, sprituality and everything in between, realizing space/emptiness/counciousness/god/ whatever you might want to call it by being simply that.


    As Ramana said, it cannot be done with a mindset of getting there, because you are already it. So the state of illusion doesent really differ from the state of reality. It only differs in the perceiption of it.


    One example he always gave was this: If you look at a stick your whole life and hold it as snake, you will never see anything else than a snake.

    But once you have seen that it is a stick, you will never be able to see it as snake again.


    Meaning, the reality did not change, only your perceiption of it.

    Keeping the mind empty, practice this without hesitation and when fear arrives let it pass, as everything that can be experienced is not you and comes and goes like weather.

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  11. Covid is an excuse. It is simply put forward as a means to centralize power, by the NWO.

    Therfore we have no idea when they will end it.


    Two possible scenarios:

    a) They got everything out of it and established that what they wanted, which is to me unlikely

    b) they will continue this for as long as they remain in "power".


    They might stop at some point, if the danger of people overthrowing it becomes too apparent, but its doubtable as well, as this is an agenda which is going on for more than a century. They will not give up that power without wiping out opposing them. As long they are in control, as they are as of right now, they do not worry about an uprising and keep pushing forward.


    I know this all sounds like a bad dream and all and i have to remind myself all the time that this sounds mad, but thats apperently what is in the bucket. No one would have thought what happend this year would be possible in that short amount of time (except for maybe some few people, i am certainly not one of those), but regardless it happend and happens.


    I come from the countryside and whenever i need to go to town to buy me and my family some food i immediatly get reminded: "well shit, this thing is still happening."


    If someone would have told me 10 years ago, that a tiny few people control everything, i would not have believed it. It all makes sense only if you also dig deeper step by step, also with the mindset to actually check everything double time to avoid errors in research. In the end you will end up with what casual people would call: mad

    But this is precisly it, we live in a mad world, filled with psychopaths at the top.

    They are capable of everything.

  12. 3 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:


    Wrong forum to discuss it anyway.

    Let's agree to disagree.


    As for me saying 'bollocks', it's my style on here, go look at a few of my comments.

    Must be doing something right, nobody here averages more than my 1.36 points per post.

    Sorry if that comes across as 'my dick is bigger than yours'




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  13. 4 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:


    Incredible that someone who can see through the covid nonsense can't see that water ALWAYS finds its own level,  a pressurised atmosphere can't exist next to a vacuum, that NOBODY has ever  seen curvature anywhere, ever,  and that the explanation that says the sun and moon appear the same size because one is 400 times the size of the other and happens to be 400 times as far away after a big bang is valid.

    End the conversation by showing me a picture of the spherical earth that isn't CGI......I'll wait.


    I mean i have seen these kind of arguments up and down and it is nothing new to me.

    I guess its pointless to talk about, because i had this kind of discussion a lot of times and it never ends up with one party agreeing with the other.

    That said, if you comment on somebody and say: "bollocks" with no additional information as you said in your reply, you should know where a coversations leads from here on out and it will evolve arround who has the bigger dick and who is right, which is pointless.


    Let me say this: You do not have to question your whole existence, just because things do not add up on one point. I think we should focus on things that we acually can agree on. I did not not come here to talk about flat earth. The point was and is, not everyone that does not believe the lies from the elite is automatically a flat earther.

    Im certainly not and thats basically it.

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  14. 2 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:


    Never heard such bollocks in my life.

    Please do not tell me you are one that actually thinks the earth is flat.

    We have really other things to worry about than that right now.


    Simply saying "bollocks" doesent add anything of value to any discussion.

    If you disagree on something you could be mindful about it and not attack people for it.

  15. 18 hours ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

    Oh yes I ALWAYS get that too about flat Earth 😑 if you have your own mind and thoughts or question authority, you MUST believe in flat Earth. They really are so dumb.


    Thats exactly it. If you are a critical thinking mind, you are in their eyes a conspiracy theorist, that believes anything, including flat earth theories and the like. It never crosses their minds that all you do is simply gathering information that has evidence or proof and logic behind it. Flat Earth for instance has no evidence, or lets say the evidence for it is astronomically low and can be dismantled by scientific data and experiments. Even oneself can make some experiments and actually see that its not flat.


    When something has 1001 contradictions and 9/11 has that, only stupid people look the other way and pretend the official narrative is right. To me 9/11 is so obvious for what it is, by simple evidence, asking "who profits" and the outcome of it, meaning the resulting wars that were used as justification.


    I think with 9/11 they knew, they could savely pull out what they are doing now, because majority want to look the other way.

    I mean, where are we that people actually think governments tell you the truth, when they can kill people in a heartbeat on the other side of the planet for intrests. Its amazingly terrifiing how many actually have lost all ability to think for themself or outside the box.

  16. 1 hour ago, wideawake said:

    Here is evidence that it is a very high possibility to shutting down the net or at least censored heavily. In Event 201, it was brought up as an alternative and most of what is in Event 201, is happening now...

    Skip to 07:15.

    EVENT 201 - The Planned Coronavirus Pandemic

    Thank you for posting this summary of Event 201.

    I for one, have a hard time watching it in its entirety, because it makes my blood boil. However, it gives you a good idea how these people operate and what their mindset is.

    (They are think tanks in my eyes, not those that are behind it fully. Just people that go trough different scenarios and how they will respond if something occurs)


    Conferences like those remind me of the Wannsee Conference, a Conference with people in suits that discuss the murder of people with a cup of cofee and tea.

    It cannot get more bizarre than that.


    It is clear to me, if it is a script (and everything indicates it is a script), they will talk about any possibility that could be problematic of what they envisioned.

    So in a sense, nothing what we do here, the people that fight against this "new normal", is not forseen. They know and knew there will be of course people that will fight back.

    It is a weird relation, because on one hand they try to silence those that could cause them problems and on the other hand they need people like us, because they need something to point fingers at, to even further cause restrictions.


    As David Icke said in many of his talks, you cannot control humans physically by force. You just dont have the numbers for it. It can only be done by mindcontrol/propaganda.


    Tbh i only can stand so and so much information from the horses mouth aka, official media and beyond, as that would make me sick. But its unavoidable to get your information from there as well to understand where they are planning to go in a certain timeframe and what they believe they have accomplished.

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  17. Will they delete the internet?


    No, i dont think so.

    These devices you use, smartphones (they need that, so they can track you, get information about you and everybody),Software like Whatsapp, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook are all needed for them to gather information about the mindstate of the population, so they know where they are at.

    Secondly, by using these, you spend a great deal and attention on it, meaning your life evolves arround social media and thus you will be trapped in a small little world, easy to control, because its them that decide what can be seen, not seen. They own those, we just use it.


    To deal with critical thinking people, they invented cencorship or outright delete you. It is of no harm to them if a small group hangs arround on forums and talks like we do, as we are already informed and cannot be brought back anyways. The other part of human society, that rather sticks to the new "fart video" on youtube that generates 20 million views, does not even make an attempt to go anywhere else and thats what they are banking on.


    We need to remind ourselfs that it was them that brought all these devices on the market. It was not the people. They told you, life gets easier by using those and now one is stuck with it, absolutly dependend on it.


    They are policing the internet in the end like china. Step by step. Right now a whole new cencorship step is in full rollout and it will tighten even more in the future. But they will never want you to get off of it, as thats their eyes and ears.

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  18. 5 hours ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

    Maybe it has to get really bad before they wake up... like when they’re ordered to force people down and rip off their clothes to administer the poison vaccine...


    To me it actually seems the worse it gets, the more they believe it.

    In the beginning i thought, well this is outrages right?, that might wake them up, Nope

    Then the next thing came up which was even more outrages, that has to wake them up right?, Nope

    Now the children have to wear masks in the class room all day, that has to wake them up right? Nope

    Instead mothers let children walk outside with masks, even when we got no orders to do so yet (it will come, but its not done yet)

    So they see insanity and put insanity on top of it freely.


    I think it is actually possible that we end up like with Nazi Germany and people will freely commit crimes without questiong it. I think its possible.

    This time you cannot flee anywhere, because its everywhere.

    However, regardless how this will unfold, i will never comply to insanity, even if that costs me my life.

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  19. 10 minutes ago, ImaHologram said:

    Thanks folks, that's solid advice.


    Agreed Michael. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. The Government and media have continued to fool everybody, and even when people know this they will still blindly follow the narrative.


    We're lied to so much. It often feels like the Truman Show. What if what we're shown about the outside world via the media isn't true at all? Like the New York lie spread in movies. They make it look beautiful and amazing, but when you get there it stinks of garbage, there's a**holes everywhere, and unless you plan to spend money it's a typical crappy city.


    Yes, it really feels like a Truman Show, absolutly unreal sometimes.

    The lenght people can be brainwashed into anything is scary and amazing at the same time.

  20. Thats exactly how i feel.

    You cant talk to people that believe the official narrative. Its a pointless effort, its a waste of time.

    The only means, how they will wake up, is just to wake up, thats it. And they do it by themself.

    You cannot argue with them, they believe the most in-realistic, outrages and contradictive lies, its maddening.


    There needs to be the realization that if they have come this far to believe even THAT, then you cannot get to them and start with common sense.

    They dont even understand the most basic things.


    How do you want to wake up a person that walks alone in the woods with a mask? Its fucking impossible. Those people are maniacs. They got brainwashed to a point that is almost impossible to cure.

    I mean, i would not care about it, shall they do what they want, believe what you want. But they will cause even further restrictions onto the human society because of their in-activity and compliance to the authorities.


    The only thing one can do in my eyes, is to talk to lime-minded people and stand for what is right. Go out there, protest and never comply to anything. Do your part. Thats it.

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  21. I am at a point where i simply do not have the energy to go into a deep discussion with someone that believes the official narrative.

    Its to me a waste of time.

    My sister is the best example. When i tell her, what the WHO for instance said in one of their press conferences, then hold on what her response was:

    No, the WHO didnt say that.

    She never checked what they said, nor does she believe me (which she doesent need to, but for gods sake plz check it yourself if you dont believe it), she just said: No, they didnt say that.


    To put this into an example: If i say the grass is green, she would reply, no the grass is purple. When i then would say, well, go check it yourself, go outside, see for yourself, the grass is green, her reply would be:

    I dont need to check that, i know its purple.


    This is basically the summary with everyone talking about this topic that fully buys into the official narrative. Never seen otherwise and i talked to a lot of people.

    Its like i talk to a robot that only can repeat what they heard from the ever same source. They dont think critically (meaning, at least check if something is true through different means and sources).


    So, no i lost all respect for those that keep defending this. They want enslavement, let them have enslavement.

    In the end they will be the ones that finger point on you, how careless you are for not complying and you are responsible for the ongoing lockdown. Thats what they will say, because thats what the media will report. I know this already, this will happen.


    Im not supporting insanity. If they come to their senses, they will do it on their own. No debating about it needed.

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  22. So a while ago Dr. Li Meng Yan had a talk on London Real about the Origins of the Covid19 virus, talked about masks and social distancing.

    Last night she was guest on Tucker Carlssons Show, which was about her mother and how she got arrested by the chinese government for speaking out.


    If i learned one thing in this year, which is the most important thing ever, is to always question everything no matter from which person it comes from and only if you have proof/or enough evidence combined with common sense (meaning it needs to make sense), you can be sure to be somewhat save about information that is handed to you.


    I dont know Dr. Li Meng Yan and i have not done a full research on her or if that is even available, but from my standpoint things do not add up. This can have several reasons and again even there i need to be open for many possibilities.


    My observation on the whole "Pandemic" is this.


    a) Either there is a new virus, so called Covid19, which shows flu like symptoms and has flu like numbers such as infection rate and death rate or

    b) There is no new virus and we are merely talking about a normal flu season that got rebranded into the name Covid19, as to make it seem we have some new threat.


    In both cases, it really does not matter from where this virus originated. (of course with no virus there is no origination, but you get the point). Why? Because the numbers we see are nothing out of the extrodinary, nothing dangerous is happening at all. Hospitals are empty, old people die as they always did at a certain age through a weakend immun system.

    Sweden, which had no lockdown at all and had not made masks mandatory, nor sicial distancing had a curve as everyone else. So there is evidence that masks (virus or not) are not helping.


    You didnt wear masks when the flu season happend last year and the years of decades before. No one cared and i understand why no one cared. Because it doesent do anything other than to harm yourself. If you felt sick, you stay at home. Thats about that.


    So what the doctor said in the interview in the London Real talk is that masks and social distancing are good means to protect yourself from the virus. Again my question:


    a) what virus? The virus that has flu like symptoms and on top of it, never got isolated? There is no proof for this virus at all. All we have are symptoms.

    b) How is it dangerous? As seen the virus (if it even exists as they say, with no proof showing for it, other than symptoms), is not more deadly than a common flu.


    So my conclusion is that either this person is misguided, or this is an attempt to bring people back that already question this whole narrativ about the Covid19 Virus into a somehwat more official standpoint.


    I cannot say if the virus exists or doesent exist. But from obersvation the question about it, became meaningless, because what we see is nothing to be afraid about it at all.

    This also includes the origin of the virus. How does this matter? It would matter if we talk about something seriously dangerous, but it isnt.


    Has anyone any idea about this doctor?

  23. Hi im Michael, citizen in Germany and wanted to talk with like-minded people here and there, which is in principal not really a possibility in these crazy times.(with people arround you)


    Little background: I started to dig through events on alternative media due to the war in syria and that let me to go down the rabbit hole, as i could not stop from that point on.

    It can be quite addictive, as its like an awakening in a political sense. (and the human history as a whole)

    So in some ways the tragedy of a war let me to question the world we live in, which made it quite easy for me in the year 2020 and to see whats really going on. (the entry point was therfor not this crazy year, but helped me to immediatly see whats going on)


    I hope we will have some good conversations and keep together, as that is absolutly needed in this world moving forward from here on out.



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