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It was written in English, how can it confuse you? Apollo is the subject matter. Total ignorance of it, means they know nothing about it. You agree with them and you too know nothing about it. If there was anything specifically captivating about those 4 rather useless people talking, point me to it and I'll explain why they are wrong. I don't anticipate you being able to understand.

They and you have one thing in common. Total ignorance of the subject mater.

https://theconversation.com/i-study-viruses-how-our-team-isolated-the-new-coronavirus-to-fight-the-global-pandemic-133675 https://theconversation.com/i-study-viruses-how-our-team-isolated-the-new-coronavirus-to-fight-the-global-pandemic-133675 https://www.virology.ws/2020/05/07/there-is-one-and-only-one-strain-of-sars-cov-2/ https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html "SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical community."

Nice false dichotomy. They have isolated the virus in numerous places. I'm guessing that you will say they are all lying because it makes such a nice conspiracy. Who says that the WHO boss with his questionable past means that CDC haven't isolated a virus? How are the two linked? Who says that companies that create vaccines aren't capable of isolating the thing they attempt to create a vaccine for? You're either intrinsically entrenched in a belief system or incapable of seeing anything that contradicts it. Oh wait...that's the same thing!

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html

Look at you .....wrong and now moving the goalposts. It Is most certainly more than a "slight" bloody change! It isn't the same size it varies quite significantly and if you cannot see that you are being wilfully blind. The Moon is unusually big but to reach the conclusion it isn't natural because you think it is the same size as the Sun has been disproven. Clearly it varies.

Well it doesn't always. It has an elliptical orbit and it changes size. When it's smallest it produces annular eclipses ....

Back at you!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gravitationally_rounded_objects_of_the_Solar_System#Satellites It's a chunk of rock....fairly natural.

Sounds like a good explanation and it is most certainly not ridiculous concerning depth. https://www.livescience.com/32641-whats-the-worlds-biggest-glacier.html#:~:text=The world's largest glacier is,meters) deep at its center. And say what.....? You think a legitimate depth for a glacier is "ridiculous" but a bloody nuclear bomb going off isn't

I am ok with their explanation and suspect that insider trading knew in advance. There IS no way to debate this. You either believe it or don't. It doesn't interest me. I like puzzles and things that require thought, not some dumb yes or no issue. No. Google it!

If I wanted to debate them, I would raise them. I certainly have no need for any input you wish to make on the matter. Just one ....United Airlines stock.

This is starting to get really painful to debate. 1. Why do YOU think gravity is an issue? 2. Pressure IS the issue and the relative visibility at high altitude indicates visibility in a vacuum. Practically none. Bullshit. The shape of the plume is determined by the pressure outside the engine bell. Gravity is completely irrelevant to anything other than delta-v. You don't know what you are talking about do you?

Dude, have we "met" on the internet before you were Reet Hard? You seem to think you know a lot about me, but are failing to actually supply evidence of any of your claims. I don't BELIEVE the official version of events so much as a general feeling that most of it fits with logic, critical thinking and observable data. As I said, if there is a conspiracy version that better fits all that, I am happy to entertain the idea. My position on this has never changed. There are issues that raise suspicion, but that's all they do. Without something tangible, suspicion is not evidence. How about you lay off the personal shit observations and I lay off the report button? Maybe address the actual debatable content huh?

No. I admit that your claim is giant balls.

Volcanic activity quite some time ago. Please tell me you don't believe bloody nuclear weapons!

Can you read properly? It isn't part of my argument - THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND - you even quote where I says this....... and yet again you ignore 90% of my post. Typical moon hoax believer behaviour. Sigh..... It was not redesigned from "top to bottom" as such, the basic shape and exterior design were not changed. Actual modifications were made, highlighted by the problems experienced from the fire. The door was changed, wiring changed, environmental gassing was changed etc. You are tip-toeing around the facts with irrelevant bullshit. How long are you going to run away from debating properly. Go back to that last post and answer it IN FULL! The capsules USED ON THE MISSIONS worked just fine....as I said!

Apart from the Titan rocket footage, the fluorescent image of altitude testing and the image you ignored on your own link! How can you fail to understand that? It shows the plume barely visible in atmosphere! This total crap was being discussed 17 years ago and more by rocket engineers amongst others. https://forum.cosmoquest.org/archive/index.php/t-3353.html http://www.clavius.org/techengine.html

It's called coinfection and it most definitely can occur. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175338/

Giant Balls. How about that, the answer was in the question.

He was a no planer and you claim military planes. How is his version "sense"? I won't. I will agree that your version is beyond ridiculous, nukes are ridiculous, space weapons are ridiculous, no planes are ridiculous. When I find a version that fits better than the explanation given, maybe I'll entertain it. The general one with planes has the buildings collapsing at the points of impact. Magic explosives again.

How can anyone not get this? The third middle ground choice tells us why it isn't viable and then you say it is....because of some ludicrous and invalid nonsense?? It comes down to whether one tells the contractors or not. If you leave the contractors out of the conspiracy, you get viable space hardware and therefore no real reason for a hoax. If you tell them, you get the big conspiracy with too many loose cannons. Once you tell the contractors you bring in a whole lot of people. Each contractor has its own hierarchy of leadership and management and senior engineers who will have to be told. So that's, say, a hundred people at Boeing, a hundred people at Grumman, a hundred people at Douglas, a hundred people at North American, a hundred people at Lockheed, and so forth. Just deciding to inform the contractors (at least at the management level) adds several hundred people to the inner circle. That's one small step for NASA, one giant leap into chaos. It can be argued that the average production line employee wouldn't know whether or not he was building real space hardware. They have a fairly limited field of view. But you can't as easily compartmentalize the engineers. Even the junior engineers in an aerospace venture require the big picture in order to do their work. Remember that you have to buy off enough of the work force in order to produce convincing hardware without producing working hardware. In short, there is no middle of this road. Either you produce real hardware, or you have a very large conspiracy with no leaks after thirty years. It DID work but had development problems. It was also used in a way that would never occur in space. But you astonishingly miss the damn point!! North American Aviation built the thing and delivered a perfectly working model. So either their engineers were instructed to do this, produce equipment fit for purpose or they were instructed to faaaaake it. NO MIDDLE GROUND! It all worked, otherwise the people who made the things that didn't work were instructed to faaaake it! So you are doubling down on this "capsule" Command Module crap are you? You now claim that NAA supplied equipment not fit for purpose for the successful missions, then they MUST have known. NO MIDDLE GROUND! And Grumman supplied a lander not fit for purpose you claim? Here they are.... You are wrong, be honest enough to admit this! What a crock of unfeasible crap. Then there is NO MIDDLE GROUND. National security my arse and not one of these people told anyone, confessed it, death bed confessions, leaked documents etc! Now YOU are only talking about the hardware components and keep avoiding the rather large herd of elephants in the room.... Thousands of images to faaaake. Fifty hours of often UNFAKEABLE surface video to faaaake. 842lbs of UNFAKEABLE lunar samples to faaaake. Thousands of hours of dialog to faaaake. Tracking stations to be faaaked. Reflectors to be placed in 3 locations....teams to do this....that is a massive number of people. ALSEP experiments with gigabytes of data to be faaaake. The LROC team must ALL be in on the hoax with highly specialist image editing teams. Since I have no idea what level of nonsensical belief you have, just that for starters involves a fair few people. I could make that list go on for pages.

@theo102You going to answer this??

They knew exactly what it looks like in low gravity....IT IS INVISIBLE!! You quote me a link that was included in MY post then ignore the bloody image in it?? This stuff was raised by hoax claimers almost 20 years ago and at regular intervals since. Why is it only those who have no idea about any of it are the ones making noise about it? Didn't the really faint fluorescent plume give you a clue? Even if it WERE visible, once off the deck the plume spreads out just as it does in a vacuum.... what the hell has gravity got to do with it anyway?

It's one of those ludicrous conspiracy moments. Six bloody missions with ridiculous attention to detail...then they "forgot" idiotic blast craters.... moving flags and "missing" stars! Clue...don't bother filming it? Stop after one mission? Duhhhhh.