Posts posted by Comedy Time
35 minutes ago, wingwang said:
The virus still hasn't been isolated, not today, yesterday, or in 2019! Burden of proof is a wonderful thing. Those who say there's a virus should prove it, shouldn't they? You can't prove a negative, after all.
There are numerous study teams telling the world they have isolated it and are working on a vaccine for it. If they are lying YOU need to prove that. It's hardly a realistic request that they stuff it out for you to look at to verify they have done it. YOU are claiming it is a negative, you need to show why they are lying and more importantly why. I mean, why is is so unlikely that they can isolate another coronavirus?
We've moved the goalposts slightly. You said it hadn't been isolated, I gave you links that it had, you claimed they weren't valid methods and failed to demonstrate why.35 minutes ago, wingwang said:
"It is crucial to evaluate diagnostic accuracy studies, analytical validity, and testing for agreement in CT, RT‐PCR, and antibodies tests at the different clinical stages. For the moment, whenever possible, it is more useful in clinical practice to evaluate tests by several methods because there is no generally accepted reference standard nor is there a gold test for the diagnosis of COVID‐19"
You need to reread that. It says there is no gold standard for diagnosis. It doesn't say what you claimed, that the actual methodology for isolating the virus was not a gold standard. You said "RT-PCR is not considered the gold standard by virologists. "
Edit: detecting something (diagnosis) is not the same as isolating it for further testing.
A test to isolate RNA when Sars-2 is RNA - now either show a reason why that is not valid or accept that the method works and they have isolated the virus. Or prove they are lying.
43 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:
MMGW is pseudo bollocks,
I also dont hold much faith in Rockefeller allopathic poisons either..
& im more a herbalist.
No it isn't.
Some of them are fine for people who haven't time to go hunting for shrubbery.
Cool, I have a friend who took some herbal remedies for cancer and one who took them for period pains and nodules on their ovaries. Both cured. But sadly it doesn't work for everyone.43 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:
Your 'fact checker' site, doesn't impress.
Fine. No problem. Your "alternative" site didn't impress.43 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:
Why are you so called sceptics always attacking alternative opinions & calling out "conspiracy pseudo science" but then ignoring obvious fake news..like HCQ has no medical benefit?
I don't know, why not go ask one? I'm just pointing out THIS one and as for HCQ I await proof to the contrary and will NOT dismiss it if it stands up to scrutiny.43 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:
I never see you talking about fastracked experimental vaccines either & their manufacturers having zero liability.
I can't debate everything dude. I hate vaccines, not because they don't work to create herd immunity, because they do in general. The concept that they offer immunity is often misunderstood - they work by raising the protection against infection percentage overall and lowering the R number. However I have long since wondered about the long term genetic effects on the immune system down through multiple generations. So slow tracked vaccines bother me for that reason. Imagine what I think of the implications for fast tracked ones that cannot possibly have been tested adequately.
Fast tracked anything is asking for trouble. Thalidomide was probably the nastiest bastard drug ever approved.
24 minutes ago, wingwang said:
That did make me giggle! "Sorry, Sir, you can't have any covid today, I'm sorry to say we ran out during this pandemic!"
You didn't address the point I made. Why would they admit this? And the reference you pointed to was for the original 2019 batch isolates. It makes more sense to work with original strains of a virus rather than potentially mutating versions of it.24 minutes ago, wingwang said:
RT-PCR is not considered the gold standard by virologists.
Citation please.24 minutes ago, wingwang said:
Where's the virus? It's still not proven to exist.
Why do you repeat your claim already addressed? The virus has been proven to exist and saying it hasn't is very much a King Canute statement.
Just now, Mr H said:
Good ol Occam's razor!
That isn't Occam as such.
If the claim is that these people are fabricating and lying, then why would they admit something they didn't need to and why devise a test that any virologist would be able to identify as not valid?
I would like someone to answer that if possible, because so many conspiracies crop up without considering truly obvious things.
1 hour ago, amy G said:
And thanks again for the interest on my work.
It would be far more interesting if you stopped being an evasive flerfer and responded honestly.
My post above....Everest high Sun. Debunk it properly. Or just continue doing this phoney act.
You said something about it being a straw man because none of you people said it. That is irrelevant, since I am taking THE BEST POSSIBLE case for the LOWEST POSSIBLE distance to the horizon and it is ridiculously further than the actual Moon of over a quarter million miles.
THAT is why you are avoiding it and THAT is why I think you have some sort of money making scheme going on. Nobody can fail to see this totally obvious thing.
Perspective is a bitch and you simply have no understanding of it.
19 minutes ago, wingwang said:
There's a whole load of twisting right there!
RT-PCR uses RNA as a template and does not isolate.
The fourth citation I quoted is from: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2768620
The CDC release I quoted was from July, the same month this article you posted was released: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2768620
But it's interesting. In May "SARS-CoV-2 strains supplied by CDC and other researchers can be requested, free" then in July the CDC has none available!
Why would they admit they have none when they could just lie? Is there not the possibility that they just used them all?
If you think the method invalid, why don't virologists? And why don't they just lie about that too?
It makes no sense to frame your argument around things that have a logical alternative and where the supposed perpetrators can simply deceive a bit better. It isn't difficult for either of those 2.
Sars-2 is a single stranded RNA betacoronavirus and as such using a method specifically designed for RNA is not invalid. Why do you think it so?
33 minutes ago, wingwang said:
They didn't isolate, they used RT-PCR. Here's the full paper:
Again, they didn't isolate, they used RT-PCR. Look at the fourth citation on that link:
The same CDC who, I quote,
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen."
From page 39: https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
It's all looking very fishy, don't you think? The isolated virus that hasn't truly been isolated. Hmmmm...
I could go on with the other links you posted, however...
I actually had to read your post a few times to understand what you are claiming here. It's almost as though you think the method used to isolate the virus is invalid because of some odd reason. RT-PCR is a method to isolate RNA.
Why did you highlight the reference when it is not used in the paper. These are not citing references they are external links for corroboration. Your example shows reference is number 5...not 4.
Why did you reference an early CDC release?
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical community.
23 hours ago, Comedy Time said:
@alexa And the dishonest evasion continues. When can we expect you to "cover" this or tell us why it doesn't count?
12 minutes ago, alexa said:
And I've told you the reason why........
And another lie. So you said they were "covered" then tell me that you gave a reason why none were addressed. You are being pathetic.
The Sun MUST be a close distance to the Earth for the flaterfers to be able to offer their idiotic Sun motion claims.
The consensus amongst the flaterf cult is 3000 miles. The absolute minimum it can be is a ridiculous Everest height. I have given you examples of both ranges and shown how it is impossible. Not unlikely, or unfeasible. IMPOSSIBLE.
You and all the flaterfers are cowards. Your failure to address any of the major points thrown your way is dishonesty worthy of .........the devil. Well done.
All this diversionary crap to cover up yet another act of dishonest evasion.
What are they all aiming at? ALL OVER Europe, all pointing in the same direction and it ain't Earth!!
13 minutes ago, alexa said:
Why ? when I can just ask you.
Because in going to look for the words "geosynchronous orbit" you might actually learn something instead of blundering through life with a complete absence of knowledge.13 minutes ago, alexa said:
What kind of an answer is this ?
One that somebody with poor understanding should get. Pick two points. One is below the target speed - ISS 93 minutes. One is above it - the Moon 27.32 days.
The target is one day, it lies between the two distances. Duhhhhhhh.
5 minutes ago, alexa said:
LOL'z This is b/c all your slam dunk posts had already been covered on this thread.
You are an appalling liar. Not one of the posts in that thread were addressed.
Show where this was addressed...
The closest possible distance the Sun can be to the Earth is a ridiculous Everest height.
Computing the distance to the Sun on a flat earth when it is 0.001 degrees above the visual horizon and at a ludicrous and provably impossible distance of 5 miles away.....
a= 5 miles
A= 0.001 degrees
Distance to object is 286,000 miles.
Distance to object 286,479 miles.
Distance to object 286,478.89754 miles.
A bit high don't you think?
17 minutes ago, alexa said:
At what point does this happen ?
Half past seven on a Wednesday. Google it, learn something.
Clue: Close up ISS takes 93 minutes. Far away Moon takes 27.32 days. Somewhere in between.
Explain the bloody picture of the satellite dishes.
9 hours ago, Diesel said:
What was the point of :
Why the Earth cannot possibly be flat.
Why not merge it into this one. Especially as its closed now.
Perhaps keeping flat earth in one place would be a better idea in the future.
There is so much to be said about the nature of our reality it would be a shame if FE is all this section is about.
Because I made about 50 slam dunk posts that got ignored and quickly buried by team flaterf, so I picked the best ones and put them on page 1. The flatties will never acknowledge them, but fence sitters can see them all in the same place.
Do you think the world is flat?
11 hours ago, wideawake said:
Joking aside, if the government wants to hide anything then it's secret because of National Security even though there was ZERO security that day. NATO fighter plane pilots were too busy playing games pretending to defend the nation from a terrorist attack by planes.
It was a plane.
8 hours ago, Lord Humungus said:
The "virus" can't be isolated. So it doesn't exist. The tests just show if you have symptoms of Coronavirus. Coronavirus is not Covid 19. It's a broad term for every Coronavirus. Including the Flu
9 hours ago, oddsnsods said:
This has been doing the rounds.
Duck noise needs imagination.
8 hours ago, Diesel said:
As a satellite orbits the earth I have never understood how dishes tune into to a static position. please explain
Very good question.
The higher up the satellite orbits the slower it moves....that is just orbital mechanics. For example the Moon has a speed of 2,300 mph, whilst the ISS moves around at 17,500 mph.
There is a point where this orbital period matches Earth's rotation. Geosynchronous orbits. BUT, these appear to move too because they simply come back to the same point daily , so a specialist type of geosynchronous orbit is needed.
Geostationary. A geosynchronous orbit parked on the equator, It appear in the same spot all the time.
2 hours ago, Macnamara said:
The pentagon is the most CCTV'd building on the planet and a clear video was also taken from the hotel across the road but this video was swiped by FBI on the day of the attack
Yet the only clip that has been released of the pentagon attack appears to show a missile rather than a plane striking the pentagon
Why won't they just release a video of a plane hitting the pentagon?
So if you actually do a reductive comparison of two frames on the CCTV footage you get a plane and you dude are ignoring the big obvious list!
The plane had 3 times more kinetic energy than a Tomahawk.
4 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:
Do you accept the number of cases on the whole is accurate?The test was never meant to stand alone as a diagnostic tool.
I accept nothing really. It all seems so very vague.4 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:
The false positive rate quoted by Dominic Raab, Foreign Secretary is said to be a whopping 93%
Said by whom? It could just as easily be way worse with many just quickly recovering. All very vague as I said.4 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:
The virus hasn't been isolated, so how can a test detect it?
4 hours ago, oddsnsods said:
Its not irrelevant..Gates funds the corporate media, Bruce Lee is a paid mouthpiece like the rest.
Peru had the most draconian lockdown policy on the planet & the highest amount of deaths per capita.
Plus all this long covid is pseudo bollocks. No different from any other flu. For a virus that 99.8% fully recover & has only killed around 300 people in the Uk without underlying health conditions under the age of 60.
You can find tons of videos of Sweden if you look..
Also Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan..or the places without lockdown
I'm not going to dig my heels in here. If evidence is convincing I will take it on board. BUT If this is some sort of fakery.....it has convinced a whole lot of doctors and the horror of the swamped NHS was not imaginary. I know people who dealt with it.
The way it is being dealt with is clumsy and badly thought out....but I didn't vote for Bozza so .... I accept no blame.
It IS irrelevant in terms of you dismissing well thought out objections because you think they are from evil.com. Address the content....even evil arseholes can sometimes be accurate.
7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:
Corporate shite, look at Peru. Bruce Lee is funded by Bill Gates, did you know that?
Completely irrelevant. Address the content. Ad hominem doesn't cancel out the reasons given.7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:
You still seriously believe this is about a virus?
Girl on Twitter?
3 hours ago, jesuitsdidit said:
Medical doctors declare that the pandemic was planned
A group of over 500 medical doctors in Germany called ‘Doctors for Information’ made a shocking statement during a national press conference: (1)
‘The Corona panic is a play. It's a scam. A swindle. It's high time we understood that we're in the midst of a global crime.'
This large group of medical experts publishes a medical newspaper with circulation of 500,000 copies every week, to inform the public about the massive misinformation in the mainstream media. 'Doctors for Information' is supported by over 6,000 professionals. They organize mass protests in Europe, like the one on August 29, 2020 where 12 million people signed up and an estimated one million actually showed up.
Hundreds of Spanish medical doctors say the pandemic is planned
In Spain a group of 600 medical doctors called ‘Doctors for Truth’, made a similar statement during a press conference.
‘Covid-19 is a false pandemic created for political purposes. This is a world dictatorship with a sanitary excuse. We urge doctors, the media and political authorities to stop this criminal operation, byspreading the truth.’ (2)
Germany and Spain are just two examples. Similar large groups of hundreds of medical experts exist in countries across the world. In the USA a documentary called PLANDEMIC, which exposes COVID-19 as a criminal operation, is supported by over 27,000 medical doctors
Completely made up, the whole thing.
9 hours ago, jesuitsdidit said:
Yes they should listen to the Doctors and others who have recently signed the Great Barrington Declaration. That is a far more intelligent approach.
The question is: WILL THEY?
3 minutes ago, alexa said:
Right there is what you are doing. Nothing can reach you.
You claim verifiable and repeatable science is a lie, but espouse the daftest claims on the planet. Have you ever looked through a powerful telescope?
Explain this picture......
in Covid-19 & NWO
Listen. YOU are the one claiming it doesn't exist. People who work on viruses say it does. They have isolated it and there are numerous places stating the same thing. All you are doing is saying they are lying.
Take the fast tracked untested vaccine for this? I'd rather inject putrid pisswater into my veins. Does that clarify my position?