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  1. On 9/16/2020 at 1:05 AM, amy G said:

    https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118854434_10220507532911183_8010800922399459959_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=68r3lzI4xdwAX836QFq&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=1c5d8f8c15743a12f1acf7f612361520&oe=5F8605E2

     

     

    What is this? Some sort of joke????

     

    Artificial object Image Country Year Mass (lb) Mass (kg) Status Location Notes
    Luna 2
    Block-E rocket stage.png
    23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1959 860 390 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png29.1°N 0°E [2]
    Luna 2
    Third stage of Vostok rocket
    Semyorka Rocket R7 by Sergei Korolyov in VDNH Ostankino RAF0540.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1959 20,100 9,100 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png29.1°N 0°E [3]
    Ranger 4
    1964 71394L.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1962 730 331 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png15.5°S 130.7°W [4]
    Ranger 6
    The Ranger Spacecraft GPN-2000-001979.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1964 840 381 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png9.358°N 21.480°E [5]
    Ranger 7
    The Ranger Spacecraft GPN-2000-001979.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1964 805 365 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png10.63°S 20.60°W [6]
    Luna 5   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1965 3,250 1,474 Crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png8°N 23°W [7]
    Luna 7   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1965 3,316 1,504 Crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png9.8°N 47.8°W [8]
    Luna 8   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1965 220 100 Crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png9.1°N 63.3°W [9]
    Ranger 8
    The Ranger Spacecraft GPN-2000-001979.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1965 809 367 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png2.638°N 24.787°E [10]
    Ranger 9
    The Ranger Spacecraft GPN-2000-001979.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1965 809 367 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png12.828°S 2.387°W [11]
    Luna 9
    Luna-9-1.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1966 220 100 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png7.08°N 64.37°W [12]
    Luna 10   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1966 3,500 1,600 Crashed
    (post-mission)
    Unknown[a] [13]
    Luna 11   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1966 3,620 1,640 Crashed Unknown[a] [14]
    Luna 12   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1966 3,680 1,670 Crashed Unknown[a] [15]
    Surveyor 1
    Surveyor NASA lunar lander.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1966 600 270 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png2.474°S 43.339°W [16]
    Luna 13   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1966 3,700 1,700 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png18.87°N 62.05°W [17]
    Lunar Orbiter 1
    Lunar orbiter 1 (large).jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1966 851 386 Crashed
    (post-mission)
    17px-WMA_button2b.png6.70°N 162°E [18]
    Surveyor 2
    Surveyor NASA lunar lander.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1966 644 292 Crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png5.5°S 12°W [19]
    Lunar Orbiter 2
    Lunar orbiter 1 (large).jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1966 849 385 Crashed
    (post-mission)
    17px-WMA_button2b.png3.0°N 119°E [20]
    Lunar Orbiter 3
    Lunar orbiter 1 (large).jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1966 851 386 Crashed
    (post-mission)
    17px-WMA_button2b.png14.3°N 97.7°W [21]
    Surveyor 3
    Surveyor 3 on the Moon.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1967 619 281 Landed
    17px-WMA_button2b.png3.015°S 23.418°W [22] Lunar Orbiter 4
    Lunar orbiter 1 (large).jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1967 851 386 Crashed
    (post-mission) Unknown[a] [23] Surveyor 4
    Surveyor NASA lunar lander.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1967 624 283 Crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png0.4°N 1.33°W [24] Explorer 35
    IMP-E.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1967 229 104 Crashed
    (post mission) Unknown[a] [25] Lunar Orbiter 5
    Lunar orbiter 1 (large).jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1967 851 386 Crashed
    (post-mission) 17px-WMA_button2b.png3°S 83°W [26] Surveyor 5
    Surveyor NASA lunar lander.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1967 619 281 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png1.461°N 23.195°E [27] Surveyor 6
    Surveyor NASA lunar lander.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1967 622 282 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png0.49°N 1.40°W [28] Surveyor 7
    Surveyor NASA lunar lander.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1968 640 290 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png40.86°S 11.47°W [29] Luna 14   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1968 3,680 1,670 Crashed Unknown[a] [30] Apollo 10
    LM-4 Snoopy descent stage
    LEM-linedrawing.png
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1969 4,874 2,211 Crashed
    (post-mission) Unknown[a] [31] Apollo 11
    LM-5 Eagle descent stage
    Apollo 11 Lunar Lander - 5927 NASA.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1969 4,484 2,034 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png0.6741°N 23.4730°E [32] Luna 15   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1969 5,992 2,718 Crashed Unknown [33] Apollo 11
    LM-5 Eagle ascent stage[c]
    Apollo 17 LM Ascent Stage.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1969 4,815 2,184 Crashed
    (post-mission) Unknown [34] Apollo 12
    LM-6 Intrepid descent stage
    Bean Descends Intrepid - GPN-2000-001317.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1969 4,874 2,211 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png3.0124°S 23.4216°W [35] Apollo 12
    LM-6 Intrepid ascent stage[c]
    Apollo 17 LM Ascent Stage.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1969 4,771 2,164 Crashed
    (post-mission) 17px-WMA_button2b.png3.94°S 21.20°W [36] Luna 16 descent stage[d]   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1970 3,040 1,380 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png0.68°S 56.3°E [37] Luna 17 and Lunokhod 1   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1970 12,300 5,600 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png38.28°N 35.0°W [38] Apollo 13
    S-IVB (S-IVB-508)[39]
    AS17-148-22714 crop.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1970 29,661 13,454 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png2.75°S 27.86°W [40] Luna 18   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1971 4,140 1,880 Crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png3.57°N 56.5°E [41] Luna 19   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1971 4,140 1,880 Crashed Unknown[a] [42] Apollo 14
    S-IVB (S-IVB-509)
    AS17-148-22714 crop.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 30,900 14,016 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png8.09°S 26.02°W [43] Apollo 14
    LM-8 Antares descent stage
    LRO Apollo14 landing site 369228main ap14labeled 540.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 4,727 2,144 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png3.6453°S 17.4714°W [44] Apollo 14
    LM-8 Antares ascent stage[c]
    Apollo 17 LM Ascent Stage.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 4,705 2,132 Crashed
    (post-mission) 17px-WMA_button2b.png3.42°S 19.67°W [45] Apollo 15
    S-IVB (S-IVB-510)
    AS17-148-22714 crop.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 30,944 14,036 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png1.51°S 11.81°W [46] Apollo 15
    LM-10 Falcon descent stage
    Apollo16LM.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 6,193 2,809 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png26.1322°N 3.6339°E [47] Apollo 15
    Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV-1)
    Apollo15LunarRover.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 460 210 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png26.08°N 3.66°E   Apollo 15
    LM-10 Falcon ascent stage[c]
    Apollo 17 LM Ascent Stage.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 4,700 2,132 Crashed
    (post-mission) 17px-WMA_button2b.png26.36°N 0.25°E [48] Apollo 15 subsatellite
    Apollo 15 Subsatellite.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1971 79 36 Crashed
    (post-mission) Unknown[a] [49] Luna 20 descent stage[d]   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1972 <12,626 <5,727 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png3.57°N 56.5°E [50] Apollo 16
    S-IVB (S-IVB-511)
    AS17-148-22714 crop.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 30,869 14,002 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png1.921°N 24.623°W [51] Apollo 16
    LM-11 Orion descent stage
    Apollo16LM.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 6,096 2,765 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png8.9730°S 15.5002°E [52] Apollo 16
    Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV-2)
    AS16-110-18009 (21673657156).jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 460 210 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png8.97°S 15.51°E   Apollo 16
    LM-11 Orion ascent stage[c]
    Apollo 17 LM Ascent Stage.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 4,713 2,138 Crashed
    (post-mission) Unknown [53] Apollo 16 subsatellite
    Apollo 15 Subsatellite.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 79 36 Crashed
    (post-mission) Unknown[a] [54] Apollo 17
    S-IVB (S-IVB-512)
    AS17-148-22714 crop.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 30,780 13,960 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png4.21°S 12.31°W [55] Apollo 17
    LM-12 Challenger descent stage
    Apollo16LM.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 6,169 2,798 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png20.1908°N 30.7717°E [56] Apollo 17
    Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV-3)
    Apollo 17 rover at final resting site.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 460 210 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png20.17°N 30.77°E   Apollo 17
    LM-12 Challenger ascent stage[c]
    Apollo 17 LM Ascent Stage.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1972 4,740 2,150 Crashed
    (post-mission) 17px-WMA_button2b.png19.96°N 30.50°E [57] Luna 21 and Lunokhod 2[e]   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1973 10,690 4,850 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png25.85°N 30.45°E [58] Explorer 49 (RAE-B)
    RAE B.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1973 723 328 Crashed Unknown[a] [59] Luna 22   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1974 8,800 4,000 Crashed Unknown[a] [60] Luna 23   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1974 12,300 5,600 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png12.75°N 62.20°E [61] Luna 24 descent stage[d]   23px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png Soviet Union 1976 <12,787 <5,800 Landed 17px-WMA_button2b.png12.75°N 62.20°E [62] Hagoromo
    Hiten
    [f]
    Hiten.gif
    23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 1990 26 12 Crashed
    (not confirmed) Unknown [63] Hiten
    Hiten.gif
    23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 1993 315 143 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png34.3°S 55.6°E [64] Lunar Prospector
    Lunar Prospector orbiter.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 1998 278 126 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png87.7°S 42.35°E [65][66] SMART-1
    SMART-1 Impact flash.jpg
    Various[g] 2006 677 307 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png34.262°S 46.193°W [67] Moon Impact Probe (MIP)
    Chandrayaan-1 Chandrayaan-1-MIP2.jpg 23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India 2008 77 35 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png89.76°S 39.40°W [68][69][70] SELENE Rstar (Okina)   23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2009 117 53 Crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png28.213°N 159.033°W [71][72][73] Chang'e 1
    Chang e 1.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China 2009 4,400 2,000 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png1.50°S 52.36°E [74][75][76] SELENE (Kaguya) main orbiter   23px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Japan 2009 4,374 1,984[74] Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png65.5°S 80.5°E [77][78][79] LCROSS Shepherding Spacecraft
    LCROSS Centaur.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 2009 1,500 700 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png84.729°S 49.36°W [h][80][81] LCROSS Centaur
    LCROSS Centaur 1.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 2009 5,000 2,270 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png84.675°S 48.725°W [82][83] GRAIL
    GRAIL.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 2012 293 133 Crashed
    (post-mission) 17px-WMA_button2b.png75.62°N 26.63°W [84] Chang'e 3
    Yutu rover   23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China 2013 2,600 1,200 Operational[j] 17px-WMA_button2b.png44.12°N 19.51°W [85][86][87] LADEE
    LADEE fires small engines.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_the_United_States_%28Panton United States 2014 547 248 Intentionally crashed 17px-WMA_button2b.png10.8°N 91.6°W   Chang'e 4
    Yutu-2 rover   23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China 2019 2,600 1,200 Operational 17px-WMA_button2b.png45.5°S 177.6°E   Beresheet
    Beresheet model on Habima Square 20190222 01.jpg
    21px-Flag_of_Israel.svg.png Israel 2019 330 150 Crashed[88][89] 17px-WMA_button2b.png32.5956°N 19.3496°E   Longjiang-2   23px-Flag_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China 2019 104 47 Intentionally crashed[90] 17px-WMA_button2b.png16.6956°N 159.5170°E [91] Chandrayaan-2
    Vikram lander

    Pragyan rover
    GSLV Mk III M1, Chandrayaan-2 - Pragyan rover mounted on the ramp of Vikram lander.jpg
    23px-Flag_of_India.svg.png India 2019 3,243 1,471 Crashed[92] 17px-WMA_button2b.png70.8810°S 22.7840°E [93] Total estimated dry mass 421,109 191,012  

     

     

    But all faaaaaaake. God knows how many people just that would involve!

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  2. 10 hours ago, Messenger said:

    Sorry for not clarifying, Comedy Time,  it wasn't paper files, but electronic data.

     

    Offsite backups are standard. Besides burn it still works or better still if it hasn't been backed up. Delete file.

  3. 46 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    Nah, I've said all I wanted to say, head-brick wall.... but will leave with this:

     

    Ok, no problem. My questions are too difficult for you and the points about the numbers involved make it ludicrous.

     

    46 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    The Powers That Be are petrified of too many people waking up to their atrocities. That's why they pay the shills. It's an information war and its important to them because they are fully aware of the latent powers of humanity, especially as a collective consciousness. They know that if the awakening process is left unchecked there will be a revolution at some point and they will be overthrown.

     

    Uhuh and of course you have copious amounts of proof for all that. Tell me something, is it feasible that being so terrified they might do the same thing to employ people to come up with obviously crazy ideas like nuclear bombs and no planes in an effort to tar them all with the same brush?

     

    46 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    All of the debating and otherwise nasty diatribe aside

     

    Debating coming from me, "nasty diatribe" seems to be coming from you.

     

    46 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    you have much to learn about human consciousness and the evolutionary process. And there is nothing wrong with that.

     

    Okie-dokie. Well thank you for your powerful insight. I did all that stuff in the 90s before you were born I suspect.

     

    46 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    In order to progress in knowledge and wisdom, someone has to sling the lunacy and nonsense to provide inspiration and motivation to those on the positive side to move forward. And that's your purpose.

     

    Wow, "lunacy and nonsense" you say. Yet you are the one who is talking about no planes and nuclear bombs.

    It isn't "my purpose" -  allegations of being a paid shill are the domain of the person boxed in by powerful rebuttal.

     

    46 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    The good news is, human beings will absolutely awaken and take control of this world from the Dark Cabal of the Power Elite. Its not a question of if, but when.

     

    Great, can't wait. Because the common person is so wise and not prone at all to a total "look after number one" mentality. We're generations away from that kind of enlightenment. You only have to look at the panic buying from the selfish horde when lock down was looming. People with 500 bog rolls in their garages. Yep. Can't wait.

     

     

  4. 2 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    Here you go again shilling for a corrupt piece of shit. Why should, or would I believe anything that comes out of his mouth? So he goes on tv and states trillions of dollars are missing and the next day, voila, its taken care of, and a series of events all too convenient take place. What a coincidence! The VERY next day. 

     

    Try and stay calm. I didn't say he wasn't a corrupt piece of shit and 911 didn't "take care of it". It was still there in the following months. It wasn't anything other than an accounting issue with multiple incompatible software programs.

     

    I asked you why he would be daft enough to go on TV the day before.

     

    2 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    It's clear even to a lobotomized baboon you are willfully blind/ignorant of the secret occult economy, exponentially larger than the false front portrayed to the world, a mere pittance of the $Quintillions that are actually out there being used by the Power Elite "Private Club" behind the scenes. And yet you bang on and on about paper trails and it must be soooo impossible for so many people to be involved without whistle-blowers. 

     

    Try to stay calm. Just because I gave you quite damning summaries of how this whole thing would be ludicrously unfeasible, no need to get your nose out of joint. Do any of those people know how to rig buildings for explosives? Or were any of them involved in plane and body disposal.

     

    You bang on about how so many people could keep a secret. Right. 

     

    “Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead.”


     Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack

     

    2 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    You must know many people are involved and it goes on all the time, so why ask such stupid questions? 

     

    YOU are the one making the claim. YOU must have some inkling of how many are involved. It is quite substantial. Only conspiracy theorists say things like this go on all the time. My questions are not stupid, you just cannot answer them.

     

    2 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    Much like I am pointing out how ludicrous the 'official' story is, and its many events. You can't even show concrete evidence of at least one plane on 9/11. 'Nada' as you say.

     

    Yes I can. The plane parts, the visual evidence in countless videos, live tv and untold witness accounts. Occam's razor and not one single piece of counter evidence for the colossal number of things underlying this claim.

     

    2 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    And why are you convinced of this? 

     

    I'm not. It seems the more likely of all the explanations. Find me one that fits better and I'll consider it. Offer me a cast of thousands and a secret plot that is ridiculous and I won't.

     

     

     

     

     

  5. Get a telescope and watch the planets spinning:classic_rolleyes:

     

    Watch the ISS travel overhead.

     

    Get a radio and lock into to some overhead satellites.

     

    WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THINGS?

     

    https://rsgb.org/main/technical/space-satellites/moonbounce/

    "One of the unique characteristics of EME is that it is possible to hear and observe your own transmissions echoed back approximately 2.5 seconds later as the transmitted signal propagates from the earth to the moon, is reflected, and propagates back to the earth."

     

    Anmateur radio hams all over the world do this. Are they all lying?

  6. Just now, alexa said:

     

    This is not a flat earth thread.

     

    Sure it is! 

     

    You are calling millions of people deluded or liars because space doesn't exist. That's just people alive now. I find such misguided belief actually baffling. It's like you have this idea and ignore completely the colossal underlying conclusions. A bit like an ostrich being shown a big mountain and not being able to see it because it has its head in the sand.

     

     

  7. 1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

    You want to talk about things being logical yet you are defending the official story without saying so. You don't say why and you avoid questions that make you uncomfortable limiting the scope of your understanding.

     

    I'm not defending the official story. I am pointing out the problems in your unofficial one. Why should I say so? Why are you still debating this on a forum that already believes this sort of stuff? Surely you are trying to reach new people?

     

    Now, detail which questions you have asked that make me uncomfortable - next post please.

     

    1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

    So what is logical about 2.3 TRILLION dollars worth of "Accounting Errors"? Do you really think accountants are that stupid to make an incredible amount of "Errors"? How is this for logic-2.3 trillion dollars was missing, Enron was in full swing with the current administration right in the middle of the accusations even though they had insider info which allowed them to get out before the stock crashed. There was no current war at the time and Bush and Cheney both had monumental connections with businesses that require war to make money. Iraq was ripe for the picking and the only thing needed was a reason to go to war.

     

    Again the same claim. There were no accounting errors. The problem was that multiple branches had different software unique to their departments. There was no way to keep TRACK of it all. He wanted a single system that stored it all in one accessible place. Read his quote again, it really is quite specific.

     

    I asked why he would say this the day before - you didn't answer.

     

    The other parts of that paragraph - I have no problem with. Governments are corrupt? Ok, obvious. They needed a reason to piss around the middle east? They let the terrorist attacks happen. That has always been my suspicion.

     

    1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

    A sane person should be able to deduce a LOGICAL connection between these seemingly unconnected facts, or allegations if you prefer, if they are open minded.

     

    Hence my position - they let it happen. I don't necessarily think they knew to what extent it would be, but there was intel around that something big was coming. Please don't quote me the "open-minded" bit. I have never ever seen a conspiracy theorist change their position on anything. That is as fixed minded as you can get. 

     

    1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

    Unfortunately most people are afraid to consider the consequences of the realization that there could have been a deliberate operation and subsequent cover up by the administration. That seems impossible and illogical because a person would have to be insane to do such a thing knowingly. Megalomaniacs ARE insane.

     

    This deliberate operation requires a staggering number of people in the know to enable it to occur. Most 911 conspiracy theorists are afraid to consider that human beings are simply unable to keep secrets.

     

    Ok. PLEASE read all of these two posts and try and take in what is being said:

    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9725182&postcount=11

    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6719039&postcount=1

     

     

    1 hour ago, Haunted Universe said:

     So that only leaves the possibility that YOU are unable to grasp the true depth of man.

     

    No, it leaves the possibility that you cannot envisage that it was actually a bunch of madmen who hijacked four planes and crashed them. I understand the hideous nature of men, I also understand the shallow nature and the need to tell somebody.

     

    No paper trail, financial trail, payoffs etc. No confessions. No hearsay. No death bed confessions. Nada.

     

    Clinton gets his jollies with Monica and the whole world knows.

     

     

     

  8. 12 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    .... we can only speculate .....

     

    Another theory is theft of highly valuable data. Physical access to a server is the best way to compromise the security system and access the data. Evacuating the building would give the thief the best chance at reaching the objective. The demolition was designed to cover up the theft.


    What data you ask? There are many possibilities. I'm sure a more well versed researcher could name some off the top of their head.

     

    So you don't actually have a valid reason for why WTC7 would be brought down. I think it an amazing coincidence that the building "to be brought  down" had a sizeable chunk of its South face carved out by falling debris and caught fire for most of the day. Some amazing explosive charges there, that withstand all of that and luckily it was hit by WTC1/2 otherwise they wouldn't have had any reason to drop it. 

     

     

  9. 9 hours ago, alexa said:

    So your telling me that all these Vid's of space bubbles are fake ? 

     

    I'm telling you all those videos aren't of bubbles. You've seen what bubbles look like in water and how many millions of them there are. They don't rotate, change size or look like misshapen chunks of ice. They don't glint in sunlight and they certainly don't fly off in multiple directions!

     

    Space debris and/or ice particles.

     

    9 hours ago, alexa said:

    Nonsense 

     

    Yes, your videos are.

  10. 14 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:

    We can only speculate. So if you are interested in speculating for yourself, just look at what Offices and what was stored inside WTC 7. The information is all over the net and a matter of public record. It should be rather easy to look into and judge for yourself.

     

    Please speculate and give me a good reason. I can see none. If it was to destroy unique paper records, burn them. Computer records have offsite backups. Blasting all the paper out into the streets would be my last choice.

     

    Update:your next post above speculated.......so burn all that. Why not?

  11. 3 hours ago, Haunted Universe said:

    Also, the missing 2.3 trillion that Rumsfeld announced on 9/10 was already being investigated in WTC7 and the wall of the pentagon that got hit.

     

    Why would he do that? I mean, he knows it's happening the next day so why announce this crap the day before and put this big "suspicion" out there?

     

    The fact is that he was appealing for a better accounting system to TRACK the money that is to enable the money that HAD been accounted for to be on one single accessible system.

     

    The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.

  12. 4 hours ago, Haunted Universe said:

     

    And how do you know the records weren't put in the bunker and whatever else they had down there? Have you personally been down there and seen the space capacity? Why would the CIA etc have EVERYTHING on paper? Hard drives come to mind. They still used floppy discs for nuclear operations but apparently have ceased this technique. 

     

    Why else take out building 7. For a laugh?

     

     

     

    Well why take out Building 7 at all is the question. The main argument I have seen many times was that it housed many paper only records. With computers, is there any company of size that doesn't have offsite backups? It's called disaster recovery.

     

    As for what was in there, that's your speculation not mine. Never made any sense. Large chunks of plane hit the building, it was ravaged by fire.

  13. 7 minutes ago, alexa said:

     

    How do you know, this vid you've shown us hasn't been tampered with ?

     

    Somewhat strange question and a tacit admission that it exposes the nonsense within your own.

     

    Easy. Many years ago I had a similar exchange on the old DIF with a person called Kaito. I did a similar analysis and created an animated gif. It showed the "bubble" rotating and getting about 10 times bigger in about 1 metre of movement.

     

    Not a bubble and anyone can replicate this.

  14. 1 hour ago, Messenger said:

    But the BBC reported that building 7 fell BEFORE it actually fell. I have the vid on an external drive somewhere around here.

     

    I know, hence my use of the word "error" in my response. They got the information wrong. Imagine the news feed said warning of collapse and they assumed it had.

     

    Tell me what possible reason would the perps have to inform the BBC news reporters? That makes no sense at all. It's not as though there's any guarantee of discretion there.

     

    1 hour ago, Messenger said:

    I think he is talking about building one or two. Building seven had a command center bunker set up in it but they didn't even use it that day, probably because they knew they would be destroying the building. It too, 7, had been set up for demolition, it fell straight down almost at free fall speed. Puffs of smoke even seen exiting some windows the second it fell. It is said that building 7 housed records for the IRS and "federal" "reserve", among other federal rackets.

     

    Housed all those records? Destroy them being the goal you indicate. Personally I would let the fires burn unabated - that would do it. What probably wouldn't do it would be to demolish the building and spew all that paper all over downtown Manhattan.

     

     

  15. 2 hours ago, alexa said:

     

    Well as your always saying to us, 'Prove it' with your genius math's.

     

     

    I already did,  I showed you a video tearing it apart. I explained the obvious MILLIONS of bubbles in REAL water and the single random direction pieces of sublimating ice in space, happily rotating. Bubbles don't do this. 

     

    Have you any idea how easy it is to remove things like this from video?

  16. 6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

    There's lots of things that are highly suspicious at the Pentagon. 

    (I believe 2 planes went into the 2 towers - but not the civilian planes we're told) 

     

    Now we are into the following territory:

    • Nobody must see the other planes. Including air-traffic control.
    • The ensuing chaos must see ATC lose the actual planes at the appropriate time, that involves pilot complicit changes or extra personnel to do this.
    • A team must be quickly assembled to invisibly sprinkle plane parts all over New York.
    • The actual plane and all passengers must be disposed off.
    • The bodies must be burnt and mashed and a team/person to sprinkle the DNA quickly all over the crash sites.
    • A team to fly the planes and crash them. I assume remote control.
    • Nobody notices two military planes going missing.

     

    6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

    1) The only footage of anything approaching the Pentagon is 2 frames.. 

     

    Yes and that grainy hotel footage.

     

    6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

    How many cameras in the area?  Why isn't additional footage shown to the public if what happened happened? 

     

    Because the incoming route had no coverage? Why should it?

     

    6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

    2) The hole looks very small and round. 

     

    That is the inner hole and it is caused by the landing gear. Why would a much lesser kinetic energy missile go through all those walls anyway?

     

    6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

    Where are the holes / damage made by the large heavy engines? 

     

    The likeliehood was that the wings were bent back and the engines went with them not a straight path.

     

    6 hours ago, Basket Case said:

    The eyewitnesses interviewed by the News were / seemed suspicious. I'd have to go and look at footage again as I haven't given this thought or attention for quite some time.

     

    I gave you a link of all witnesses noted and they are substantial and not all TV interviewed. Besides, that is just your opinion. They may have been just a little bit emotionally compromised.

     

    WHERE is the missile?

     

    Now we are into the following territory:

    • Nobody must see the missile. 
    • Witnesses must be planted to say they saw a plane.
    • A team must be quickly assembled to invisibly sprinkle plane parts all over the Pentagon lawn.
    • This cannot be done in advance and must be completed before emergency services arrive and/or staff leave the buildings.
    • Another team(or same one) must break or attach explosives to the streetlights and the generator. Synchronised to go off with the missile!
    • If any of the emergency team are not in on it, they must not see any of this
    • The actual plane and all passengers must be disposed off.
    • The bodies must be burnt and mashed and a team/person to sprinkle the DNA quickly all over the crash site.
    • A hole in the Pentagon wall must be created that resembles a plane impact that somehow occurs at the same time as a missile strike.
    • The missile must be fired with some sort of guidance system installed. That involves a branch of the military and a launch mechanism.
    • It must approach the Pentagon at ground level and parallel involving a manoeuvre that sees the missile coming down and altering course. That must be done via software link.
    • The missile must penetrate all walls of the Pentagon.
  17. 6 hours ago, alexa said:

     

     

    That is sort of spamming really. You got given an explanation for this crazy bubble nonsense and then post more or less the same claim. This is space debris/ice flakes. You can actually see many of them spinning round.

     

    When we observe astronaut training in water, there are millions of actual bubbles. Not random pieces of space debris firing in all directions!

  18. 13 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

    Please do a more thorough job or I might have to watch it.

     

    Just for you I did a couple more.

     

    Item 2 says the Chinese space walk was a bubble. It's flat, rotating and it gets bigger really quickly, way too quick for a rising bubble. It's a piece of ice from the looks of it. The other Chinese spacewalk clips are just more pieces of debris or ice, they look nothing like bubbles.

     

     

    Continuing the nonsense about space bubbles, more clips showing clearly stuff flickering and spinning, glinting as the sun hits it. Space debris and/or ice particles.

     

    Not to mention the STUNNING problem that they are all going in multiple directions. Bubbles go up in one direction.Then the bloke shows the astronauts training in a tank where suddenly we see MILLIONS of bubbles. 

     

    That will do for now. I don't expect a detailed response.

  19. Just now, screamingeagle said:

    there is nothing to evade.....

     

    Apart from all the eyewitnesses and the ridiculous list of things that needed to be done.

     

    Just now, screamingeagle said:

    when you admit to your self that no plane hit pentagon we can try to take discussion on the next level

     

    How very profound. Are you saying that you think you are at the next level? Are all the eyewitnesses lying? How many were involved in this nonsensical claim?

     

    If you have issues with the pilot's skill, it would be far easier to nerve gas the pilots and put in a remote control mechanism. As opposed to involving a cast of god knows how many to act out this alternative scenario.

     

    Just now, screamingeagle said:

    not even the vedic math can calculate the plane into existance.....

     

    So your "proof" for no plane is ...

    That you couldn't see it on the video, when you can.

    The holes it made are not feasible when a missile with 1/3 the kinetic energy wouldn't have fared any better.

    Nobody saw the plane when a whole host of witnesses give detailed reports that it was just that.

    The pilot couldn't do any of that when people on youtube, on flight simulators can do the same thing.

     

     

    What else, tell me what convinces you there wasn't a plane, help me get to your level? Explain how the witnesses were coerced or paid off, show me any evidence for that big list above.

     

    Or just ignore this post completely because you can't do any of that.

  20. 12 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

    Nor does your fantasy gravity which you will no doubt love so much.

     

    As opposed to what? It explains everything we see. Perhaps you could furnish them all with a better explanation? I eagerly await your detailed response.

     

    12 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

    Interesting you choose only one thing to refute. Please do a more thorough job or I might have to watch it.

     

    In the past I have gone through whole videos and had it all completely ignored. That was an acid test and you failed it.

     

    12 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

    Why on earth (ho ho) woiuld NASA need to employ a cross-fade or other  advanced cinematic techniques at all - why not just a cut.

     

    Because the bloke who put it together wanted to. It's not a "NASA" thing it's a him/her thing.

     

    Now did my gif show a cross fade, yes or no?

     

    If you say no, explain why the things on the side all suddenly moved.

     

    12 hours ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

    I love ballers, not just because the name suggests they do disgusting things for money.

     

    That comment is generally considered trolling/baiting. Kindly desist. How about you go to the flat earth thread and answer some of the difficult questions.

  21. 7 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

    your trolling is noted.....there is no plane onbthe security footage 

     

    your repetition won't change anything 

     

    Nothing in my post is trolling. Once again you evaded an extremely large post that was written in good faith with a reference link.

     

    The video shows quite clearly the blurred outline of a jet airliner. The link given details copious amounts of witnesses. I gave a list of things that needed to be done, have you any evidence for any of that?

     

    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/sgydk.html

     

     

  22. 13 hours ago, Messenger said:

    ...

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    Isn't Rudy talking about the WTC1/2?

    "“I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us.”

     

    Eyewitnesses hearing loud noises. I would be amazed if there weren't.

     

    Silverstein said the fire crews were pulled from the building. 

     

    BBC made an error. How come this one of thousands is the "truth". Why on earth would they tell the reporters about this anyway?

     

    911 commission eventually did analyse this.

     

    The number who know about it isn't really relevant.

     

    The zionist media refused to report it, yet the BBC did and so did all the other TV crews that day.

  23. 56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

    no need to tell me what to do

     

    Which is why the line said this "Watch the video and prove it wrong. Or not, feel free to ignore it."

     

    You weren't told what to do.

     

    56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

    and about the video s bunch of stupidity claimed as fact just as all official story 

     

    I was hoping for a little more detailed examination. Quite clearly there is an area in the second closed circuit TV footage which corresponds to the outline of a plane. Could you pretty please watch it again and offer a proper response? One that involves analysis rather than arm waving.

     

    56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

    just as the rocket that hit pentagon 

     

    I ask again. 

     

    WHERE is the missile?

     

    Now we are into the following territory:

    • Nobody must see the missile. 
    • Witnesses must be planted to say they saw a plane.
    • A team must be quickly assembled to invisibly sprinkle plane parts all over the Pentagon lawn.
    • This cannot be done in advance and must be completed before emergency services arrive and/or staff leave the buildings.
    • Another team(or same one) must break or attach explosives to the streetlights and the generator. Synchronised to go off with the missile!
    • If any of the emergency team are not in on it, they must not see any of this
    • The actual plane and all passengers must be disposed off.
    • The bodies must be burnt and mashed and a team/person to sprinkle the DNA quickly all over the crash site.
    • A hole in the Pentagon wall must be created that resembles a plane impact that somehow occurs at the same time as a missile strike.
    • The missile must be fired with some sort of guidance system installed. That involves a branch of the military and a launch mechanism.
    • It must approach the Pentagon at ground level and parallel involving a manoeuvre that sees the missile coming down and altering course. That must be done via software link.
    • The missile must penetrate all walls of the Pentagon.

     

    56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

    and the official story that it's a plain

     

    Correct. A Plane.

     

    Here is a list of interviewed witnesses, are they all lying and in on it?

     

    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/sgydk.html

     

    56 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

    your repetition can't turn lies into truth,not even with every media platform supporting it....

     

    Neither can yours, not even with the massive variance in theories amongst conspiracy theorists.

     

    Your evasion of the video and the mathematics concerning kinetic energy is noted.

     

     

  24. On 8/6/2020 at 8:33 AM, alexa said:

    Space exist in movies only.

     

     

     

    Space exists whether you like it or not. 

     

    I'm not going through that entire video only for you to ignore it so I'll address point number one.

     

    Have you ever seen one piece of film edited into another with a cross fade? That is what we are seeing. And you know what, it's dead easy to prove.

     

    The following animated gif contains two screen shots, one just before he exits and one immediately after. See all the things "moving"? QED.

     

    well-duhhhh.gif

     

     

     

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