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  1. And you tell me you are the big I am on research. It's from the NHS website! And it kind of takes a gigantic dump on the stats you cherry pick. I'll address the rest of your foaming rant in the morning. Try and stay calm...less of the rude huh?
  2. Yes I read all about that 25 years ago. They'll all be dead soon. Slow tiptoe.
  3. Well no. I tend to think it's more an opportunistic thing to make money on the quiet and introduce draconian measures. The idea it was planned is ludicrous. If it was...ffs.....surely they would have made it far worse???
  4. As I said. This is hardly a place where anyone will disagree with any alternative theory! Thanks for chiming in though. How did you rate his insults?
  5. @wideawake All your one liners and off topic posts and my one above ignored and dumped off the latest page! Why are so afraid to answer here?
  6. You are cherry picking and let me ask you another dead OBVIOUS question. If this is a big scam why the hell do they release charts saying "pre-existing conditions"?? Far simpler just to not mention it huh? Makes it far more scary then doesn't it. Yeah whatever. You're using one conspiracy to prop up another and by doing so enabling the auto-dismiss of anything they present. Oh, except where they admit dumb things that "give the game away" - like we haven't got any virus available. I know you can read and make a good job of responding to my points, albeit missing glaring inconsistencies.....but how the hell can you fail to see where I typed.... I don't agree with their policy. Ergo, I DO recognise all of that. That is a gas lighting term and I already told you I don't buy mainstream media as gospel. Accept what I say. Just as much I don't automatically buy conspiracy theories. And you post references to "nurses" one of which is selling books of all her exploits on AMAZON! "Yeah, I went in and they were telling the truth" doesn't sell as well. I apologise if it offended you. "You are a tinfoil septic" / "you simpleton" / "No dodge gimpy." / "Youre infected mate big time." / " its boring to fuck replying to an apologist" / "Jog on then fake news." / "Bullshit boy" / your rant about me and Gareth Icke None of that is gaslighting huh? I am somebody who doesn't drop into any category. I analyse evidence and act on it. I don't dismiss it automatically - either mainstream or alternative. The snopes article didn't debunk anything for you, because you undoubtedly didn't even read it. But you expect me to soak up all the things you read and dismiss all the things you dismiss. Your opinion is largely based on cherry picked articles and propped up with other conspiracies enabling you to dismiss things without even checking them. I wondered how long before the "joos dunnit" entered into the proceedings. Or she was telling the truth and some of the nurses you put out have quieter regions. Overall I'm inclined to believe that the virus is being exaggerated....but it isn't fake! You dismiss everything that doesn't work in your pre-loaded model. What steps have you taken to check on the possibility that some of YOUR info is propaganda designed to create this colossal distrust? I have never seen such an obvious case of confirmation bias. Your research begins and ends with everything that fits into your model. I'm not running my mouth, I am critiquing your content. Sorry of it bugs you, but these are valid points and you seem to be getting all pissy about it. I'm not actually making any headway here am I. For about the 4th time...... WHERE ARE THEY on this thread? You raised them as this brigade of shills. So why aren't they on this thread? As I said - I know I'm not one and hell's bells, I only just popped in the other day. A pandemic was as inevitable as Christmas. Obama spoke about one years ago. There are models for every eventuality for operational response planning.....not so much with this though. Gates is the major contributor to WHO, so he must get a say in running it I suppose. The problem is the Dr. Evil angle and that is a complete other conspiracy. I think that sounds a fairly reasonable course of action. So where do you quarantine them? A hospital? No it was not! The area generally open to the public - A&E - was closed, not the bloody hospital! And this nutter went into a QUARANTINED area. You just suggested it and he breached the quarantine guidelines issued for protection against catching and re-transmission of an official pandemic virus.....regardless of your conspiracy conclusions! And only a careless reader would have failed to notice me disagreeing with his prison sentence and saying he should have been fined. You though.....give him a pat on the back for his sterling work breaching a quarantined hospital! And once again you DELIBERATELY avoid the point I am making!! If they are faking these stats, why the bloody hell don't they make them better and why the hell did he come clean about things that cause all this uproar! Basically you are claiming all this subterfuge but the people doing it are too incompetent to back up their actions - that's bollocks. It isn't the oddsnsods free to post anything he wants unchallenged thread either. Last time I checked this was a debate forum and I am taking your position to task, based on your dismissal of conflicting data. Surely this gives you a chance to show that is not the case - you've failed to so far but nobody on your side cares. IT's also a massive point to inquire why nobody is taking any other post to task regardless of it source and content. My remark was accurate about this leaving the impression "there is this whole thread of data and info" and it all must be right. My position if you give a rat's arse(or not!) - At this moment I think the effect of the virus has thus far been horribly overstated, but the virus itself is certainly very real and has the potential to still kill quite a significant number of people over and above the norm.
  7. Thanks for the correction - typo. The second statement is actually just daft.
  8. Why would you do that? I mean post a useless off topic response and once more evading valid posts. A truth seeker woukd look at all evidence. Not so much here though.
  9. Whenever I see designer face masks and there are so many of them now, I wonder how many times they wear them between washes. Seems somewhat of a complete waste of time if they aren't disinfected every time they are used. You can guarantee that the vast majority of people wearing these stupid things do not do that. And some of those regulation blue ones look decidedly worse for wear! Just that alone makes a mockery of this whole process.
  10. How very off topic and personal. You see nothing but the things you want to see. You dismiss everything that contradicts what you believe. There is middle ground here, an exaggerated epidemic is a good possibility. A fake one is just bullshit.
  11. Wow, look at that total piece of ad hominem shite. You are addressing ME and not the post you are afraid to answer. I don't have arrogance with logical and honest responses, only sometimes with people equally arrogant in their defence and denial. You are the one being rude here, not me. Appealing to the crowd. You aren't the spokesperson for the crowd. I imagine there are some genuine truth seekers who want to know how the bodies and planes were disposed off, how they created plane shaped holes with bleedin' missiles or no planes. I think genuine truth seekers will look at the analysis of the Pentagon footage and think oh, there IS a plane there when you pixel extraction of two frames. I have performed this myself long ago with the help of a Python programmer friend....it is accurate. You are afraid to be wrong, simple as that. There is no arrogance in finding flaws in theories and asking those who fail to see them why they cannot!! p.s. I see you've gone to a busier thread to seek "reinforcements"
  12. Mythbusters used a light some distance away from the miniature setup. It was basically one light source as it must be, but far enough away so that the angle was close to parallel. There is not a light source in existence apart from the Sun that can evenly light massive areas of terrain whilst still maintaining single crisp shadows that follow parallel paths. Find me another Apollo example with divergent shadows please. You may struggle....but if you do, remember this... here's more on that example you gave... http://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/2017/05/55-why-arent-shadows-parallel.html
  13. Wrong!! I am not defending the shitty government and your argument is like someone going nah nah na nah naaaah. I am pointing out discrepancies and poor methodology in these alternate claims. They aren't all wrong, far from it....try reading the flow of that exchange instead of knee jerk comments.
  14. I know, because I am kicking your arse.
  15. False dichotomy. Koch's postulates are not gospel. Despite the importance of Koch’s postulates in the development of microbiology, they have severe limitations, which even Koch realized. For example, he believed that cholera and leprosy were caused by microbes, but could not fulfill all four postulates. Furthermore, Koch knew that the putative agent of cholera, Vibrio cholerae, could be isolated from both sick and healthy people, invalidating postulate #2. Many viruses do not cause illness in all infected individuals, a requirement of postulate #1. An example is poliovirus, which causes paralytic disease in about 1% of those infected. Further compromising postulate #1 is the fact that infection with the same virus may lead to markedly different diseases, while different viruses may cause the same disease. Postulates #2 and #3 cannot be fulfilled for viruses that do not replicate in cell culture, or for which a suitable animal model has not been identified.
  16. And you chose the inaccurate Facebook one. From your link, which is from the "evil" WHO... "The WHO believe Covid-19 kills 0.6 per cent of all patients or one in every 167. Although it sounds minimal, it means Covid-19 is six times deadlier than the flu and almost as twice as fatal as polio." If the methodology by which you dismiss counter evidence is "because it's from the mainstream" - then your method is just a little bit flawed. Take it up with Google. I imagine they don't hold the same sites as you do in high esteem. I don't agree with their policy. Then don't label me as "infected" when I do the same. If you think I watch it and lap it up then you are mistaken. I suppose there is an element of truth to that in general terms, but since the matter is deemed as "nothing to worry about" that is not valid here. Yes, I can agree in theory with that. The news generally will dictate the reaction from the public at large. I don't have a problem with reading between the lines or that some things are censored or shutdown. You weren't reading at all simply because it comes from the MSM. So effectively you only cherry pick things FROM the MSM that support your case and ignore things that don't. Please don't insult "anyone's" intelligence by saying that is not the case. I've just spent a couple of hours searching this thread and there are examples of empty wards etc. But again you are cherry picking things that agree with you and labelling fake those that do not. Righto, so Snopes is all wrong and so is the BBC because of "reasons". She could be real huh and I am a "simpleton" for not realising she could be acting. But you aren't one for not realising that all your examples could be from people selling books and lying to get attention? https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Undercover-Epicenter-Nurse/Erin-Marie-Olszewski/9781510763678 Cherry picking again. And YOU automatically take all the opposite as truth because you are a conspiracy theorist. I don't automatically take anything as truth, I assimilate data and form a logical opinion that fits what the data tells me. I modify that opinion as the data may or may not change. You should try that. My "bullshit" is observational contradictions to what is being presented. None of you people are questioning a single thing being shown. What you are doing is lapping it all up into a "coronavirus" memory store then when quizzed about it, it becomes a huge thing because of "all" that evidence presented. I actually don't want to limit this thread at all, or disrupt it, but really!! WHY aren't any of you truth seekers questioning things being presented by your own side? Example... Empty hospital beds/ full beds and sobbing nurses. Former stored, latter is fake Which bit, the official one or the conspiracy "read between the lines" one? I asked where they are on this thread! It is a complete dodge. You quote an advisory script from the government employed buffoons but failed to answer this.... I dare you to imagine just for a second that there IS a nasty disease out there and the public aren't taking it seriously. What would YOU do? Yes it was, insult noted yet again. Regardless of the agreed draconian result. He didn't photograph what you said he did!! He actually photographed the sealed off section of A&E that was closed. I cannot actually believe how you can so badly miss the point I am making! You claim the figures show x,y,z (cherry picking again of course). I said why don't they fake them, you know the ones that YOU think are incriminating. It would be a piece of cake for them to do so. You aren't the spokesperson for "everyones intelligence" sic. No, I am highlighting inconsistencies with your approach, relevant to the topic. Don't flatter yourself concerning me "asking you questions", many are asked to show how your method is biased.
  17. Ok, so all the "examples" on the internet where the rays appear to converge are caused by 1 or both of two things. Variation in the terrain, such as craters or small undulations or by the object itself not being vertical. Anyway, back to your example. It's perspective and variable terrain. The LM shadow is being cast in roughly the same direction as the undulating ground where the rocks are casting theirs. Terrain and angle make the shadows change - very brief video: Seal the deal? Mythbusters analysed that very photo..
  18. Certainly. Just one small request first...(after you provide a specific example)... Draw the light diagram from ANY light source that does this. Because nearfield light sources produce shadows that DIVERGE. Only when it gets quite some distance does the divergence angle come close to the parallel of the sun. There is NO studio single source light that illuminates such a vast area evenly.
  19. Who me ? Use @userid command or quote. Kindly stop saying something is "obvious" when that only applies to people unable to address their content. Which fact checking website do you use? Or should we take alternative websites as written?
  20. You didn't know. And please, must I repeat myself? You and the truth are not best friends. You have been misled by the oldest deceit in human history.....religion. And now you are being mislead by some of the newest....tin-foil-hattery. Now present a piece of evidence or find another thread to dump your nonsense into? I've seen some cast iron world-ain't-flat posts totally ignored by you with no excuses, so if I offered you anything on this thread it would get the same result. I can prove beyond doubt that we landed on the Moon to a rational intelligent person, or somebody prepared to look at things objectively. Not you though, you have proven yourself unreachable by any debate.
  21. Sure it does. If there are conflicting beliefs that don't work with each other, there is no common ground. Evidence suggests a second one is an over reaction. But evidence suggested the first one was way too late. Yeah about that. Your extremely blinkered views are not seeing MY beliefs being attacked? Really? I'm not attacking beliefs, I am discussing what I believe to be problems supporting them. Or perhaps people who have really strong beliefs resent them being challenged and will defend them at all costs. I don't have arrogance in general but sometimes the odd thing sneaks out in defiance. I am quite ok being arrogant on occasion, pretty much exclusively on subjects I fully understand though. Certainly not in this thread - I am totally open to the ideas being presented, just not nearly convinced. There are gaping holes in the theories, but also in the main narrative. p.s. that isn't the cue to drag this thread through another off topic series of posts aimed at poor old me.
  22. Uhuh, so when you quote the bare minimum bullshit facebook story that's ok then? You are deliberately misrepresenting and doing the same as the people you criticise. Yet pretty much every picture you are posing comes from a conspiracy theorist watching the news. So you are watching the news but it doesn't count because they are cherry picking stuff and not watching all of it? Is that right? Shit news reporting? As I said, from what is presented, nothing to worry about was the message. Why are you still blabbing on about this? Uhuh. Read between the lines. You ignored the content in that link. That's not reading between any lines. Total conspiracy shit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43140105 https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/american-three-terrorist-attacks/ The nurse is real, you couldn't find any bullshit about her could you, so you rake up some other daft stuff. Self supporting conspiracy. Yes I get it. Brigade of shills huh? Where are they all on this thread? I know I'm not one and there ain't an awful lot of people taking any of you lot to task! So did Barack Obama. Inevitable is inevitable. This was always likely to happen. But nice dodge.... That is a genuine question. A man breaks into a hospital in the middle of a genuine pandemic, putting people's lives at risk...what would YOU do? You seem to mainly read what I type...so what went wrong here? What would YOU do? Then.... "Tell him off and say stop being so naughty. Prison was a bit extreme, but a fine would have been about right." Nice dodge again. He photographed sealed off closed A&E areas. And you just ignored MY stats. Serious question - try not to dodge: These people are according to you going to extraordinary lengths to fake a pandemic. Why didn't they fake the death stats? I mean you posted stuff about death certificates and attributing deaths to covid19, so how did all this come out and why didn't they just quietly fudge the death stats...not my ones....YOUR ones. There seems to be an awful lot of foul ups going on here. I say incompetence, you say fakery. There does exist some middle ground. No, don't be like that. I'm not jogging on - you've 3 times complained I didn't answer your post. Which one?
  23. No, really you didn't. Let's recap. You said your version of events explained everything that happened. I asked how the columns bent in and you said this.... "I don't care how they bent. A missile can bend them inwards just as easy as a plane." Now excuse me for pointing it out but a) You don't know and B) missiles don't make plane shaped holes and it involves all the no plane shite to occur with the video footage. So try again...and we're only on item number one.
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