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Are we done with shadows?

Firstly I don't ever need to wriggle out of anything. Honest and convincing debate always works with me. Secondly what specifically are you talking about? Thirdly, are you a no planer because there are about a dozen things your team are evading.

They aren't completely unqualified like a frickin' chiropractor!! First one anti-mask? Second one says immunity after 10 days from a real covid19 virus? What's to discredit? How many shall I give YOU? I guess no number of doctors taking the opposite stance will convince you! Many things you have stated on other topics are "a shame" to me. Ok. So the bloke standing on the railway track with headphones on and a blindfold....to him there is no passenger train bearing down on him at 100mph. Yes, but consider this. A real pandemic would do just that and it was as inevitable as Christmas.

Just answer the reply. I get quite a few remarks that are sarcastic and worse, so forgive me for not guffawing at your attempt at humour.

Do a search on this forum for "pisswater".

Can you really? If I posted a report by a psychiatrist who was commenting on viruses would that work for you?

Oh come on. The guests. Think of the guests. It's hardly half of you and what is it you are trying to convince me of? Some of you think it's caused by 5G, some of you think it is completely faked and some think it is real but an opportunistic moment to usher in draconian measures.

Hardly, he developed the test you are all claiming is crap, so he had no chance to defend himself. He was 75, so hardly a bad innings.

Yeah, so why publish details about it?

Thank you for your repeated unsatisfying reply. May I ask you for one more reply? Please? He is a doctor. In what field is he in?

None of that is out of the question. However, a pandemic has been inevitable for some considerable time and the readiness of the World to contain anything like it was somewhat shite. Is it out of the realms of possibility that such a simulation was long overdue, or that there IS a nasty virus and the incompetence levels are close to what was expected from unpreparedness?

I do not disagree totally with any of that. I have a more temperate view on it that's all. And I do get that news outlets and corporations have their own agendas - but I'm sorry, I do have faith in people and they aren't all corrupt bastards.

And you do what you always do, label the source as MSM something or other and avoid what it says. When it suits you, you go to any number of MSM sites and take small sections of data. Would it be possible for you to actually shut up about "ME" and why you think I'm here? No, I know people who know the difference and yes, it is inadmissible and hearsay. But it is why I KNOW it isn't a fake virus. I have no need to offer any of that to you to try and convince you otherwise. Would it help if I referred to you as Kermit or Gonzo? Or tell you that you are infected by blinkered research? Almost certainly not. So do try to desist from the insults. What does it prove? It proves that YOU don't ever post anything like it because it doesn't fit your preconceived view. Blunders all over the place. Hanlon's razor. Arm waving away all the stats because they conflict with yours. Yes I read all that and once again your non medical appraisal is noted. Medical professionals say it is worse than common flu. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu COVID-19: There have been approximately 1,099,380 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 217,717, people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and October 16, 2020.* Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide. The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, the vast majority of people do not yet have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-covid-19-isnt-the-flu He notes that during mid-April the “counted deaths” for COVID-19 in the United States were around 15,000 per week. During a typical “peak week” for the flu, the “counted deaths” are about 750. Faust concludes that COVID-19 deaths are actually anywhere from 10 times to 44 times the number of influenza fatalities. Other experts say there are also reasons beyond the raw statistics that indicate COVID-19 is more dangerous than influenza. Please do not re-post your cherry picked statistics. Nice dodge. The source for this came from the daily briefings - the one avenue guaranteed to reach the most people. Yeah like THAT makes sense. "Our test is shite, we don't know what we are doing" Really? This is so typical of the way conspiracy believers/followers or whatever term you want to use....take a term and remove it from any definitive context! Of course you will arm wave away any response to this because it MUST come from a definitive MSM outlet!! https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr/fact-check-inventor-of-method-used-to-test-for-covid-19-didnt-say-it-cant-be-used-in-virus-detection-idUSKBN24420X The PCR test is the preferred COVID-19 testing method in England (tinyurl.com/u9xxxup). It detects the presence of the virus by amplifying the virus’genetic material to a point where it can be detected by scientists (tinyurl.com/y7rno7pf). A spokesperson for Public Health England told Reuters why PCR tests are being used widely in England: “Molecular diagnostic tests, such as real-time PCR, are the gold standard methods for identifying individuals with an active viral infection, such as SARS-CoV-2 (the cause of COVID-19 disease), in their respiratory tract. These tests are rapid and produce results in real-time. “It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.” You have the audacity to make such a rubbish claim with a facepalm?? Much of the data that comes into the vast majority's field of view comes from daily briefings and newspaper reports. Are you seriously suggesting that THEY aren't in on this nonsensical hoax? They could have left it out quite easily and been more simplistic on the daily tirade of information pushed out. Proof for any of that? Seriously, that is not a flippant question. What have you got, anything solid and tangible? You labelled the CDC as being in on this whole thing. so what possible daft reason would they "admit" they didn't have any of the 2019 source material? That is just plain dumb. And stop insulting "everybody's" intelligence by suggesting they were rubbing our noses in it.

The media does lie and it is usually very obvious when they do. It doesn't however mean they do it all the time or conduct ludicrously concocted and sustained campaigns. It's one thing the government and money making advisory bodies messing with the numbers and projections, which I'm inclined to lean towards than to suggest the whole damn thing is a fake. That's just absurd and DOES require large numbers to suppress multiple avenues of inquiry. And yes, there is of course censorship which I most certainly do not agree with ANYWHERE

Dude, I saw that was your claim from 3 posts ago. Stop cluttering up the thread. Sceptics of what? The general term is used to denote somebody who doubts accepted opinion. So that would be you lot. But I won't be so rash in my claims. Truthers/sceptics only sometimes fall prey to fake news and you should all point it out when they do, not leave it to people like me to do it! However, they DO use mainstream sites but very rarely quote the whole thing. As I said and has been demonstrated on this thread....small cherry picked "ahaaah" snippets are used, sometimes out of context, often without pointing out other variables and certainly never using anything from mainstream sites that contradict the general line of the claim. That isn't truth seeking, that is confirmation bias.

"Truthers" use them to cherry pick stats and quotes. Then when presented with the bits they don't use, play the MSM card to avoid responding. Ffs. Prove it's fake. I won't hold my breath.

Well duhhh....it was a figure of speech. 99.99999999999% of the human race will never heard about this or care. It's also how the real planet works. Please don't guess. Your attempts at evidence are worse than a small child's guesses.

Whoops, misread... https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html Researchers are still working to determine the R0 for COVID-19. Preliminary studies estimated an R0 value for the new coronavirus to be between 2 and 3, according to a review study published Feb. 28 in the journal JAMA. This means each infected person has spread the virus to an average of 2 to 3 people. Some studies suggest COVID-19 has an even higher R0 value. For example, a study published April 7 in the journal Emerging Infectious Disease used mathematical modeling to calculate an R0 of nearly 6 in China. It's important to note that R0 is not a constant number. Estimates can vary by location, depending on such factors as how often people come into contact with each other and the efforts taken to reduce viral spread, Live Science previously reported.

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They talk about it a lot too... https://space-debris-conference.sdo.esoc.esa.int/ Since 1957, nearly 6000 space launches have led to an on-orbit population today of more than 26,000 tracked objects. The very recent years have shown a significant and unprecedented growth, primarily in small and commercial satellites in Low-Earth orbits. Large constellations are being deployed. Today, a total of about 2,800 objects are functional spacecraft. The remaining are space debris, i.e. objects which no longer serve any useful purpose. Most of the routinely tracked objects are fragments from about 550 break-ups, explosions, collisions, or anomalous events resulting in fragmentation of satellites or rocket bodies. In addition, there is evidence of a much larger population of debris that cannot be tracked operationally. An estimated number of 900,000 objects larger than 1 cm and 128 million objects larger than 1mm are expected to reside in earth orbits. Due to relative orbital velocity of up to 56,000 km/h, centimetre-sized debris can seriously damage or disable an operational spacecraft. Collisions with an object larger than 10 cm will lead to catastrophic breakups, releasing hazardous debris clouds of which some fragments can cause further catastrophic collisions that may lead to an unstable debris environment in some orbit regions (“Kessler syndrome”). Space debris mitigation measures, if properly implemented by spacecraft designers and missions operators, can curtail the growth rate of the space debris population. Active removal of large intact objects has been shown to be necessary to reverse the debris increase. In addition, it becomes important for each and every mission, whether a large constellation or a single 1U CubeSat, to quantify the impact it has on the space environment and other operators in order to achieve a sustainable space environment. To improve our understanding of the space debris environment, assess related risks, mitigate its growth, and control its stability, collaboration of and information sharing between a multitude of technical disciplines is key. This conference aims to contribute to this goal by gathering recognised experts in their fields.

The Moon is 1/4 of a million miles away, as recorded by daily, multiple radio ham-geeks doing EME bounces. Satellites can be seen, as can the ISS and anyone with a radio and receiving dish can log into many of these satellites and receive data. Worldwide, millions of satellite dishes point up to the sky and receive TV signals. And you think all your silly photography proves that is all untrue??? The Kessler Effect is a very real thing, unlike many of the stuff you cling to.

What about engaging with people who find flaws in your claims? Labelling them as "defenders of the system" is a neat way to avoid replying to them isn't it? A great piece of advice, that way the actual idea that everything you type must be correct, because there is no way that anything you typed against the mainstream is wrong now is there....and free speech and open discussion can;t possibly highlight this can it.

They are "converging" and that is impossible with a studio light anyway. The terrain is uneven and perspective is in play.

Dude, the NHS is only "accurate" when the stats "work" for the conspiracy! So why didn't YOU pull him up about his reference to the jooos doing it? Zionists would be more in keeping huh? Yeah sure it is. It's true I am in a thread full of virtually total opposition and there is some nasty crap going on throughout the world, but you being in the majority here isn't the winning hand. My rhetoric is no more childish than quite a large number or responses coming my way.

<< snipped off topic pissy image >> Hey great idea (even a moderator liked it), only the NHS stats you didn't cherry pick and then ignored say the virus isn't fake. So just that one set of stats proves you don't research or post things that go against your claims. How many people do you figure are in on this gigantic scam? Or are you going to pull the old compart-mental card? I find it ironic that there is even a conspiracy theory about the term conspiracy theory and that is nonsense as well. I have never used it personally as a derogatory term and still can't understand the problem with doing so. https://theconversation.com/theres-a-conspiracy-theory-that-the-cia-invented-the-term-conspiracy-theory-heres-why-132117 https://www.google.com/search?q="conspiracy theory"&tbm=bks&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1800,cd_max:1965&lr=lang_en Flu stats have dropped off have they? Eyes wide open dude...... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/you-might-not-want-rely-trump-information-about-risk-coronavirus/ I despise corporations. They are completely out of control. I think you are locked into a self supporting scenario and are surprisingly getting all pissy about it being highlighted and questioned. My main issue with your posts surrounds you claiming this disease is fake. I don't give any level of flying fucks as to what nurse said this or that, because I KNOW people from my local hospital who dealt with this shit. But don't tell me, this one is fake is it? https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/07/second-wave-of-coronavirus-could-overwhelm-more-than-100-nhs-hospitals-13235218/ "However, it comes as a leaked NHS document revealed coronavirus could hit hospitals five times harder than in April, when an average of 16,000 beds were required for coronavirus patients per day." Hey, it's the daily fail. Don't tell me, all the stats are fake in this article! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8746817/Matt-Hancock-warns-Covid-19-hospital-admissions-doubling-EIGHT-days.html Regarding your deaths from FLU in 2018, did you inquire as to how many had underlying health conditions? And I didn't see your response to how Sars-2 is just a tad more virulent. Some questions: 1. What crazy reason would they admit their test was inaccurate if the virus was hoaxed? 2. What crazy reason would they release stats that DIDN'T back up the fake virus? 3. What crazy reason would they soften the blow by mentioning underlying health conditions? 4. Why haven't Brigade77 infiltrated this thread? 5. What totally insane evil-overlord CDC admits they don't have any virus?