Comedy Time

Are we done with shadows?

Firstly I don't ever need to wriggle out of anything. Honest and convincing debate always works with me. Secondly what specifically are you talking about? Thirdly, are you a no planer because there are about a dozen things your team are evading.

They aren't completely unqualified like a frickin' chiropractor!! First one anti-mask? Second one says immunity after 10 days from a real covid19 virus? What's to discredit? How many shall I give YOU? I guess no number of doctors taking the opposite stance will convince you! Many things you have stated on other topics are "a shame" to me. Ok. So the bloke standing on the railway track with headphones on and a blindfold....to him there is no passenger train bearing down on him at 100mph. Yes, but consider this. A real pandemic would do just that and it was as inevitable as Christmas.

Just answer the reply. I get quite a few remarks that are sarcastic and worse, so forgive me for not guffawing at your attempt at humour.

Do a search on this forum for "pisswater".

Can you really? If I posted a report by a psychiatrist who was commenting on viruses would that work for you?

Oh come on. The guests. Think of the guests. It's hardly half of you and what is it you are trying to convince me of? Some of you think it's caused by 5G, some of you think it is completely faked and some think it is real but an opportunistic moment to usher in draconian measures.

Hardly, he developed the test you are all claiming is crap, so he had no chance to defend himself. He was 75, so hardly a bad innings.

Yeah, so why publish details about it?

Thank you for your repeated unsatisfying reply. May I ask you for one more reply? Please? He is a doctor. In what field is he in?

None of that is out of the question. However, a pandemic has been inevitable for some considerable time and the readiness of the World to contain anything like it was somewhat shite. Is it out of the realms of possibility that such a simulation was long overdue, or that there IS a nasty virus and the incompetence levels are close to what was expected from unpreparedness?

Not this. http://www.illustratingshadows.com/split-world.pdf

Scientifically minded people don't consider such an absurd thing. Nope. I can tell you that we don't know the focal length or FOV of the camera, it is over exposed for the sun, with no filter and the Sun is disappearing over the curve of the Earth, full size with no change due to perspective and vanishing point. I can also offer you the best and lowest possible estimate as to how far away it is from the observer - around 286,000 miles away. Please share the "ahaaaaah" moment.

I do not disagree totally with any of that. I have a more temperate view on it that's all. And I do get that news outlets and corporations have their own agendas - but I'm sorry, I do have faith in people and they aren't all corrupt bastards.

And you do what you always do, label the source as MSM something or other and avoid what it says. When it suits you, you go to any number of MSM sites and take small sections of data. Would it be possible for you to actually shut up about "ME" and why you think I'm here? No, I know people who know the difference and yes, it is inadmissible and hearsay. But it is why I KNOW it isn't a fake virus. I have no need to offer any of that to you to try and convince you otherwise. Would it help if I referred to you as Kermit or Gonzo? Or tell you that you are infected by blinkered research? Almost certainly not. So do try to desist from the insults. What does it prove? It proves that YOU don't ever post anything like it because it doesn't fit your preconceived view. Blunders all over the place. Hanlon's razor. Arm waving away all the stats because they conflict with yours. Yes I read all that and once again your non medical appraisal is noted. Medical professionals say it is worse than common flu. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu COVID-19: There have been approximately 1,099,380 deaths reported worldwide. In the U.S, 217,717, people have died of COVID-19 between January 2020 and October 16, 2020.* Flu: The World Health Organization estimates that 290,000 to 650,000 people die of flu-related causes every year worldwide. The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, the vast majority of people do not yet have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working to estimate the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-covid-19-isnt-the-flu He notes that during mid-April the “counted deaths” for COVID-19 in the United States were around 15,000 per week. During a typical “peak week” for the flu, the “counted deaths” are about 750. Faust concludes that COVID-19 deaths are actually anywhere from 10 times to 44 times the number of influenza fatalities. Other experts say there are also reasons beyond the raw statistics that indicate COVID-19 is more dangerous than influenza. Please do not re-post your cherry picked statistics. Nice dodge. The source for this came from the daily briefings - the one avenue guaranteed to reach the most people. Yeah like THAT makes sense. "Our test is shite, we don't know what we are doing" Really? This is so typical of the way conspiracy believers/followers or whatever term you want to use....take a term and remove it from any definitive context! Of course you will arm wave away any response to this because it MUST come from a definitive MSM outlet!! https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr/fact-check-inventor-of-method-used-to-test-for-covid-19-didnt-say-it-cant-be-used-in-virus-detection-idUSKBN24420X The PCR test is the preferred COVID-19 testing method in England (tinyurl.com/u9xxxup). It detects the presence of the virus by amplifying the virus’genetic material to a point where it can be detected by scientists (tinyurl.com/y7rno7pf). A spokesperson for Public Health England told Reuters why PCR tests are being used widely in England: “Molecular diagnostic tests, such as real-time PCR, are the gold standard methods for identifying individuals with an active viral infection, such as SARS-CoV-2 (the cause of COVID-19 disease), in their respiratory tract. These tests are rapid and produce results in real-time. “It is important to note that detecting viral material by PCR does not indicate that the virus is fully intact and infectious, i.e. able to cause infection in other people. The isolation of infectious virus from positive individuals requires virus culture methods. These methods can only be conducted in laboratories with specialist containment facilities and are time consuming and complex.” You have the audacity to make such a rubbish claim with a facepalm?? Much of the data that comes into the vast majority's field of view comes from daily briefings and newspaper reports. Are you seriously suggesting that THEY aren't in on this nonsensical hoax? They could have left it out quite easily and been more simplistic on the daily tirade of information pushed out. Proof for any of that? Seriously, that is not a flippant question. What have you got, anything solid and tangible? You labelled the CDC as being in on this whole thing. so what possible daft reason would they "admit" they didn't have any of the 2019 source material? That is just plain dumb. And stop insulting "everybody's" intelligence by suggesting they were rubbing our noses in it.