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On 9/5/2020 at 7:24 AM, Carlos said:
Apparently all because there was a possibility the "big lumbering jet" might miss its target.
https://askthepilot.com/questionanswers/conspiracy-nation/
" I propose a conspiracy theory that the conspiracy theories are themselves part of a conspiracy, intended to discredit the idea of there being a conspiracy — and to divide and conquer those who might sleuth out certain facts."
"1. The terrorist pilots lacked the skill and training needed to fly jetliners into their targets
This is an especially popular contention with respect to American flight 77. Hijacker pilot Hani Hanjour was a notoriously untalented flier who never piloted anything larger than a four-seater. Yet he is said to have pulled off a remarkable series of aerobatic maneuvers before slamming into the Pentagon. The pilots of American 11 and United 175 also had spotty records and had flown only private planes. They should have had great difficulty navigating to New York City, and even greater difficulty hitting the twin towers squarely. To bolster this idea that the hijackers were Oswaldian pawns, the conspiromongers often invoke impressive-sounding jargon and fluffery about high-tech cockpits, occasionally trundling out testimony from pilots.
Reality: The cabal’s feats did not require in-depth technical knowledge or a high degree of skill. The attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league in the cockpits of those 757s and 767s; however they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category-3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system – or to land at all. They were setting out to steer an already airborne jetliner, in perfect weather, into the side of a building. Though, for good measure, Mohammed Atta and at least one other member of his group did buy several hours of simulator training on a Boeing 727 (this was not the same type of jet used in the attacks, but it didn’t need to be). Additionally they obtained manuals and instructional videos for the 757 and 767, available from aviation supply shops.
Hani Hanjour’s flying was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and spirals above the nation’s capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it. Striking a stationary object — even a large one with five beckoning sides — at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon’s lawn. If he’d flown the same profile ten times, seven of them he’d probably have tumbled short of the target or overflown it entirely.
As for those partisan pilots known to chime in on websites, take them with a grain of salt. As somebody who flies 757 and 767s for a living, I think my testimony carries some weight. Ask around and you’ll discover that the majority of professional pilots feel the way I do."Far too logical. Not enough twists. 4/10.
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On 9/5/2020 at 1:33 AM, mishy said:
The date on the PDF is 2012, but I'm sure this is from like 2008, maybe even earlier.
https://911crashtest.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Why-they-didnt-use-planes.pdf
Hmm. The author seems to reaching to me. Few nice twists but several plot holes.
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On 9/5/2020 at 12:09 AM, Haunted Universe said:
This has already been addressed.
And the conclusion is that anyone who witnessed planes on 9/11 were all crisis actors? Blimey. The things they can do with digital effects nowadays. Jar Jar Binks aside.
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This is a bit like when a landline telephone used to ring out in the old days and you knew 100% who it was on the other end before you picked up. That's a dying connection these days.
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Not one for Religious texts. A man ate an apple and all that. I do like a bit of Religious art, though. And I sometimes wonder if the artists commissioned by the church would've gone on to produce equally brilliant, non Religious art without such inspiration. I mean, Michelangelo might well have still created David. He just would've been called Rodney, or Andy instead.
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6 minutes ago, Haunted Universe said:
Digital composites is more likely.
Hello HU. Thanks for the reply. What about the (I guess) many eye witnesses accounts of the planes flying over NY before they hit?
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Why would those who orchestrated 9/11 go to such measures? Surely when the powers that be met around the table, the bloke who said let's hijack some planes and fly them into the towers, killing as many people as possible, to further our agenda, was given a round of applause. And the bloke who suggested holograms was quickly escorted out the back door?
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Basket Case brought me here so you can all thank him for the following naive question but..
Holographic planes? Really?
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4 minutes ago, Basket Case said:
Hey...welcome :O)
Thanks, BC. Just had a look at your posts in the 9/11 thread. Some good, fair modding on display there mate. Nice one. I had no idea holographic planes were even a thing.
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Hello everyone. I'm new to all this. Not just conspiracies but forums in general. I'll probably spend most of my time asking questions.

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