# Carlos

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1. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

@zArk Answer my damn post! Answer the simple questions! You even ignored my reminder: When can I expect you to answer the post posted yesterday at 8.49? Because it wraps up all the nonsense I keep having to revisit. Your understanding of basic lunar motion is the problem. Your video had dozens of errors but even when explained to you, you still hang on to it by the fingernails. This simple diagram explains it for anyone - yet you arm-waved it away for some ridiculous reason that it wasn't to scale and didn't have the Earth rotating: Diagram 1 Partial eclipse, is the Moon before the shadow hits Earth. Reduced light from the Penumbra hits the Earth's surface up to an hour before the FULL eclipse and 1hr before the Moon casts a shadow. Diagram 2 FULL eclipse, is the 3hrs 14 minutes where the Moon travels across the face of the Earth. Diagram 3 Partial eclipse, is the Moon after its shadow has left the Earth's surface. Reduced light from the Penumbra hits the Earth's surface up to an hour after the FULL eclipse and 1hr after the Moon casts a shadow. The reason for this 1hr is that the Moon moves 1/2 a degree per hour and after that time the width of the penumbra 6400km will not be visible, ie. end of partial eclipse.
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Seriously considering bailing.

BC

3. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

@amy G Hey, what's the problem? "Hopefully, we are all here in search of truth and that's really all I need to say about that." - amy G. Is that not the case here? "What fascinated me most was the fact that there was legitimate discussion." - amy G. Is this not discussion? LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS routinely ignored by flat earthers in all "legitimate discussion". Why does the Sun appear to be the same size all over the "flat earth" regardless of its distance to the observer? Everything gets smaller towards the vanishing point. But you always have to look up to the sun - yellow line - how can it set or rise? Same with the Moon. The Sun at zenith has an angular diameter of 0.5 degrees of arc. Wherever it is it stays the same size. Bearing in mind the "1 mile corridor" where, you know, things get smaller as they get farther away. The sun rises and sets without changing size - explain this. Wherever you are on the "flat earth", the angular distance the sun covers per hour is 15 degrees. No matter what elevation, what time of year or time of day, no matter where you view it from. On a flat earth that is impossible. Explain this. Pictures from Space: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=apollo+pictures+of+Earth&form=HDRSC2&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover Zoom in to individual pictures: https://quickmap.lroc.asu.edu/?extent=50.3348544,-23.6121387,90,-15.4187484&proj=10&layers=NrBsFYBoAZIRnpEoAsjYIHYFcA2vIBvAXwF1SizSg Oh and just in case you claim that was done with a telescope, the far side of the Moon: https://quickmap.lroc.asu.edu/projections?extent=-90,-25.8276945,90,25.8276945&proj=7&layers=NrBsFYBoAZIRnpEoAsjYIHYFcA2vIBvAXwF1SizSg The bottom of all the buildings has disappeared. How is this possible on a flat earth? Sure you cannot "see forever" but what trick of light cuts the bottoms off just as you would expect on a curved surface? Some Mathematics for you: https://penguinsfalloff.blogspot.com/2017/06/as-internet-debates-go-one-concerning.html
4. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

I made a very big post above answering all your points and providing examples for pictures in space etc. It was fairly obvious your first response was a diversion but that's 3 times now. Why are all you people so afraid? I have content above that you have ignored. The thing is, you can run and hide behind your computer screen and refuse to answer things but that is real sad. How can anyone believe this crap and be afraid to answer simple things? And a math nerd knows that it takes 24hrs. And a school child can divide 360 by 24hrs and conclude it MUST move 15 degrees per hour. You are not a mathematician. I have content above that you have ignored. Must I repost it all for you to ignore again? I gave you a list of questions, some images and some observations that cannot be explained on a flat earth but perfectly fit in with a planet. Above, kindly address it. I do not need to explain that it exists, you have to explain different starfield rotation directions. Examples easily found online and of course easily dismissed by you as fake. You also have to explain why the Moon is inverted in Australia. You're avoiding them all. Above. Content. Address it. How come the Sun doesn't get smaller when it sets? How come it is the same size wherever it is viewed at whatever angle, time of day, time of year?
5. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

When can I expect you to answer the post posted yesterday at 8.49? Because it wraps up all the nonsense I keep having to revisit. Your mistake is the same blundering one you keep making. By the way, YOUR source for times is NOT correct, it is longer than 5hrs for the visible partial to start and end. It is actually 5hrs 18 minutes. But that's not where you are wrong, you keep insisting that the visibility of the partial contributes to the total shadow on Earth time. It does not. Now don't go getting your knickers in a twist at wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_August_21,_2017 (P1) Partial begin 15:46:48 (U1) Total begin 16:48:32 Greatest eclipse 18:26:40 (U4) Total end 20:01:35 (P4) Partial end 21:04:19
6. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

Yet again another flat earther turns up and runs away from direct questions. Absolutely pathetic. Why are you people so afraid to answer things? The sun comes back to pretty much the same spot every 24 hours. That is 360 degrees. It is 24hrs on every single point on Earth. As a mathematician the inevitable conclusion should be bloody obvious. Since it didn't even occur to you that speaks volumes about your level of maths skills. Now at this point, anyone who is not a committed flat earther would investigate how this flat-madness explains it. Instead, what say you play more diversion games and continue to avoid about half a dozen questions and a very long detailed response above.
7. ## The Facts of WTC PLANNED & CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

Wow, the person calling people names objects to INDIRECT banter. Back on topic, answer my question! Black boxes, if one was needed the perps could just fake one, or do you think they exceeded their massive man power list with all the other crap and they decided not to bother
8. ## The Facts of WTC PLANNED & CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

Why are you so afraid to answer? The building exterior shows an inward explosion and nothing was ejected out the entrance hole. How does your no-plane nonsense explain it.
9. ## The Facts of WTC PLANNED & CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

I'm asking questions that you CANNOT answer. Mainly because there is no explanation. Circular reasoning - the videos show exactly what should occur. I don't need to prove that the explosion went inwards as we can see. You are the one making the moronic claim and you know there is NO explanation for it. <thread>
10. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

The Earth, but hey for the purposes of the question I shall rephrase it - since you are playing silly buggers! 1. Why does the Sun appear to be the same size all over the "flat earth" regardless of its distance to the observer? Yes, everything gets smaller towards the vanishing point. But you always have to look up to the sun - yellow line. Really? The Sun at zenith has an angular diameter of 0.5 degrees of arc. Wherever it is it stays the same size. 3. How can it set or rise full size in the first place? Same with the Moon. Bearing in mind the "1 mile corridor" where, you know, things get smaller as they get farther away. Playing silly buggers again. Wherever you are on the "flat earth", the angular distance the sun covers per hour is 15 degrees. No matter what elevation, what time of year or time of day, no matter where you view it from. On a flat earth that is impossible. A novice mathematician would know this straightaway and would know why. Once again, playing silly buggers. The sun rises and sets without changing size. You want me to prove that the Sun travels at 15 degrees per hour everywhere on Earth? Some mathematician you are. This one thing could prove beyond doubt that the globe model is incorrect. Find one place on Earth where the sun doesn't do that and it's cracked. As for things orbiting, I wonder what kind of student of mathematics can be that ignorant of satellites or visible planets and their moons. Astronomers spend hours watching things like moon transits across Jupiter or Mars, or Mercury transiting the Sun through a filter. Ahhh ok, the standard conspiracy bullshit answer. https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=apollo+pictures+of+Earth&form=HDRSC2&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover Zoom in to individual pictures: https://quickmap.lroc.asu.edu/?extent=50.3348544,-23.6121387,90,-15.4187484&proj=10&layers=NrBsFYBoAZIRnpEoAsjYIHYFcA2vIBvAXwF1SizSg Oh and just in case you claim that was done with a telescope, the far side of the Moon: https://quickmap.lroc.asu.edu/projections?extent=-90,-25.8276945,90,25.8276945&proj=7&layers=NrBsFYBoAZIRnpEoAsjYIHYFcA2vIBvAXwF1SizSg I could show you numerous things that you could look up yourself, but I sense you will arm wave them all away. Playing dumb. The bottom of all the buildings has disappeared. How is this possible on a flat earth? Sure you cannot "see forever" but what trick of light cuts the bottoms off just as you would expect on a curved surface? The mathematics of visibility on Earth also rely on the physics of refraction. It confuses you does it? Give me some examples where you are confused and maybe we "might actually get somewhere"! Try replying honestly this time. I strongly suspect you have zero mathematics and are 100% a flat earther, here to play games and evade all the difficult questions.
11. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

I'm not angry at all. You ignored my reply and still haven't admitted it as being correct. The rather silly women who made the video forgot to check the local times.
12. ## The Facts of WTC PLANNED & CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

You ran away like a big Jessie. Afraid to answer anything. Regarding the picture YOU need to explain how an explosion goes inwards with no debris coming out of the entry hole. You cannot because it was a bloody plane!
13. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

Wrong yet again. The shadow passed across the Earth surface in 3hrs 14 minutes. Please stop quoting the 5 hours, that is really dumb after it has been exhaustingly explained to you. The Earth rotates around 48.5 degrees in that time. Now I've read your post several times and I still don't understand what you are saying. It almost looks like you are expecting the Earth to have rotated 143.7 degrees. Please tell me you do not think this.
14. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

Do you understand mathematics? Namely trigonometry? ONLY at the equator can the Sun be 3000 miles away because it is vertical above the observer. The red line below is matey at the Equator seeing the Sun 3000 miles up above him. Now the bloke at 30 degrees has just watched the Earth go across the sky and he sees the Sun at a distance of 5200 miles. But it hasn't changed speed or size and has been in view the entire time for both of them! Now change the observer to someone by the sea watching a beautiful sunset. He's watched the Sun go across the sky the whole day always in view, same speed, same size, he lives on the equator. The sun is now just 5 degrees above the horizon, still the same bloody size(!?) but see if you can work out how far away it is from him. http://www.cleavebooks.co.uk/scol/calrtri.htm Side a = 3000 because the observer still on the equator is seeing the sun 3000 miles above him. Meanwhile the observer also on the equator at an angle A of 5 degrees sees the Sun, wait for it, 34,400 miles away!!! It takes a profound ignorance not to understand the terminal problems here.
15. ## The Flat Earth Thread: The reality of our physical plane (v2)

You know my explanation and it fits everything we see exactly as expected. You are the one proposing the lunatic claim, the post needs answering, why are you so afraid? Example. Sun directly overhead how far away is it? ANSWER PLEASE. And don't give me that ridiculous shite about "portals". I can track the Sun across the entire sky, it gets further away on a flat earth, so why no size change and how the hell can it always go the same speed?
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