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  1. False claims that pandemic is a hoax or was started deliberately are attracting adherents around world

     

    Guardian, UK

     

    26/10/20

     

     

     

    Significant numbers of people around the world believe Covid-19 was created deliberately, has killed far fewer people than reported, or is a hoax and does not actually exist, according to a global survey.

     

    Along with belief in other conspiracy theories – such as that the world is run by a secret cabal – the YouGov-Cambridge Globalism Project, a survey of about 26,000 people in 25 countries designed in collaboration with the Guardian, found widespread and concerning scepticism about vaccine safety.

     

    Among the most widely believed Covid conspiracies is that the death rate of the virus, which according to the Johns Hopkins University tracker has so far killed nearly 1.1 million people worldwide, has been “deliberately and greatly exaggerated”.

     

    Nearly 60% of respondents in Nigeria said this was definitely or probably true, along with more than 40% in Greece, South Africa, Poland and Mexico. About 38% of Americans, 36% of Hungarians, 30% of Italians and 28% of Germans felt the same.

     

    There is evidence the coronavirus pandemic has prompted some people to say they trust experts more, but it has also triggered a wave of disinformation and fake news propagated by science deniers and conspiracy theorists that has spread virally on social networks.

     

     

    “Any scary event – a pandemic, a mass shooting – that denies people a sense of control will lead to a proliferation of conspiracy theories,” said Stephan Lewandowsky, a cognitive psychologist at the University of Bristol who is an expert on misinformation.

     

     

     

    “They give people a sense of psychological comfort: the feeling that they are not at the mercy of randomness. They’re dangerous at any time, but more so in a pandemic if they lead people to ignore official advice, or commit acts of vandalism or violence.”

     

    But conspiracy theories also thrived on “governments’ inability to have a clear message”, said Lewandowsky. “They are another reason why we all need clear, consistent, evidence-based policymaking that can be trusted.”

     

    Among other countries, roughly one in four French and one in five British and Spanish respondents believed the death rate of the virus had been exaggerated, while Australians, Swedes and Japanese were more likely to dismiss such a belief.

     

    Significant numbers also thought the virus had been “deliberately created and spread” by the Chinese or US government, while in Poland one in five people believed it was definitely or probably a complete myth, created by unidentified “powerful forces”. Roughly the same proportions in Turkey, Egypt and Saudi Arabia said they agreed with that proposition, while in the US the figure reached 13%.

     

    The false claim that 5G mobile technology is to blame for the spread of Covid-19 also has plenty of adherents, according to the survey, which was conducted in July and August.

     

    More than a fifth of respondents in Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria and South Africa believed it was definitely or probably true that symptoms were “caused or enhanced by the direct, physical effects on the human body” of 5G.

     

    More than half of Nigerians, more than 40% of South Africans, Poles and Turks, more than 35% of Americans, Brazilians and Spaniards and between one in four and one in five French, British, Italian and German respondents believed it was definitely or probably true that Covid-19 had been deliberately created and spread by the Chinese government.

     

    Significant numbers also thought the US government was responsible for creating and spreading the virus: as many as 37% of respondents in Turkey, against one in five in Greece and Spain, 16% in Poland, 12% in France and just 5% in the UK. About 17% of American citizens said they believed it was definitely or probably true that their own government was to blame.

     

    The survey also tested belief levels in common non-Covid conspiracy theories, finding between 20% and 30% support in 10 countries – including South Africa, Brazil, Hungary and Poland – for the belief that manmade global heating was “a hoax invented to deceive”.

     

    Similar proportions thought the moon landings were faked, while between 20% and 30% of respondents in Spain, France, the US, Italy and Germany thought the US government “knowingly helped make the 9/11 terrorist attacks happen”. Between 20% and 44% of people in 17 countries believed or thought it likely that humans had made contact with aliens.

     

    The most widely held conspiracy theory by some distance, however, was that despite who may officially be in charge of national governments and other organisations, there was “a single group of people who secretly control events and rule the world together”.

     

    This was held to be “definitely or probably true” by more than 20% of respondents across 20 countries, including 28% of Britons, 36% of French respondents, 37% of Americans, 45% of Italians, 47% of Poles, 55% of Spaniards, 68% of South Africans and 78% of Nigerians.

     

    The survey revealed widespread and significant anti-vaccination sentiment, a matter of serious concern to many governments that hope soon to be able to inoculate their populations against Covid-19.

     

    Across 19 different countries 20% or more of respondents said they gave at least some credibility to the view that “the truth about the harmful effects of vaccines is being deliberately hidden from the public”, including 57% of South Africans, 48% of Turks, 38% of French people, 33% of Americans, 31% of Germans and 26% of Swedes.

     

    While the UK was among the countries with the lowest rates of anti-vaccination sentiment, almost one in five people – 19% – still agreed either wholly or partially with the statement. Research by the Guardian recently found engagement with anti-vaccination content on Facebook had trebled in a month.

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/26/survey-uncovers-widespread-belief-dangerous-covid-conspiracy-theories

     
     
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  2. 2 hours ago, oz93666 said:

     

    Well it all depends if enough people Pray ... It is an energetic thing , outside of Creators control , like kama  ....If we  don't pray he can't help and we will loose , and humanity will go down the pan . ... But when we do win it's not a case of "game's up for the evil ones." (meaning they will cop it)  ... We can only win by healing them , getting them to move on to a better place. 

     

     

    Sorry, I disagree. The Creator has Will and Power, and it's enforcement  is NOT dependent on our 'prayers' or lack thereof. The Earth is His, and will NOT be destroyed by the evil ones, with or without our 'prayers'. Whatever happens to the evil ones by way of their ''healing'' or otherwise is irrelevant insofar as they are made to lose their power, and they will.

     

    ''I will bring to ruin those ruining the earth'' - Revelations 11:18

  3. On 9/22/2020 at 5:53 PM, ItsTheTruthThough said:

    Did you see where he said basically they reserve the right to have a full lockdown if we don’t follow rules and bring the Covid numbers down!? Like the rule of 6 and closing bars at 10 is going to bring the numbers down 😡😡😡 

     

    We are going into full lockdown 100% it’s not if it’s when. I agree peaceful protests will not work. We are dealing with mega psychopaths who want us all dead and everything destroyed. Like they will change their whole mind and be nice because we are peacefully stood asking them to stop!

     

    ''And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.''

     

    Matthew 24:22

     

    Relax. The Creator will stop them from ruining His Earth.

  4. On 9/2/2020 at 9:12 PM, FinallyAwake said:

    This is INSANITY! It’s not even hidden, they’re TELLING US!! WTF! They really are psychopaths ffs

     

    There is a Creator watching all of this. I doubt He will let this go on for another 5 years on His Earth. One or two more years at the most, and the game's up for the evil ones.

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  5. 1 hour ago, Michi713 said:

    @Rossiman

     

    Loud and clear that you believe the vaccine is the literal mark of the beast.  Is it possible in your view that the vaccine can be taken by someone who has repented and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior?  Or having taken it, later repent and be saved?  
     

    Does the mark of the beast mean you believe with your mind and do with your hand the will of satan, as Walter Veith says in his lecture on Revelations? 
     

    Or is this a cut and dry take the vaccine and you’re headed to extinction in fire?

     

    Has anyone considered that the mark can already be the cell phone in your hand and the depravity on the internet in your mind? 

     

    I think there's a part in Revelations that says specifically that those who take ''the mark'' will suffer boils and bruises to their bodies.

     

    Oh....here it is:

     

     

    ''Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out on the earth the seven bowls of God’s wrath.”

    So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and loathsome, malignant sores broke out on those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image...''  - Revelation 16. 1

     

    So you could have a point that cell phones are the mark of the beast, but I doubt that because virtually EVERYONE uses them on earth, meaning all would be annihilated, except perhaps a few million villagers in remote corners of the earth?

     

    I think the vaccine is the more realistic 'mark', because people can still 'buy and sell' without owning cell phones, but if mandatory vaccines are introduced, that wouldn't be the case.

  6. 23 minutes ago, Michi713 said:

    My husband is required to wear a mask and get tested weekly, daily later.  If someone tests positive, which happened once so far, the whole place shuts down for a day for disinfecting and the positive person is out for ten days.  No test no work.  After being out of work for six months and jobs being scarce, noncompliance is not an option. 
     

    Right now his and some co-workers’ stance on the vaccine is that they will not comply, but we will see.

     

    ''And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.....And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.  And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” - Book of Revelations

  7. 8 hours ago, SJToday said:

    @ it'sTheTruthThough I can see you really believe it's just about control. I just think it must be something more than that to empty our skies.

    David talks a lot about the energetic vibration of the planet needing to be a certain frequency so that 'they' can survive. Maybe halting most air travel is something to do with that?

     

    We are ALREADY slaves, so why would they spend more time and energy (the Rona is a huge energy drain) on keeping us slaves when we already are? That doesn't make any economic efficiency sense.

     

    I think mentally extrapolating past the initial 'its for control' answer may lead to some excellent theories/answers.

     

    Anyone?

     

    As David says, negative energy for these entities is like the oxygen we breathe. The unhappier we are, the more energy fed them. Doesn't really matter to them what they do to us, so long as it's drawing a negative response, which is food to them.

  8. On 9/21/2020 at 5:37 PM, Illmatic said:

    Looks like we're sliding slowly into lockdown 2 through gradually tightening restrictions, just in time for Christmas.

     

    This eventually has to end in riots and massive social unrest. You have to think that this is expected by the people who are implementing this.

     

    What's giving me a lot of hope is that I'm not sure this plan is entirely as well thought-out as people think. A mistake I feel is made in the truther community a lot is giving these people too much credit and imagining that we're seeing 4D chess playing out here rather than an absolute farce. One reason I started thinking a bit differently about the way these things work is my father was in politics when I was young and I got a bit of an inside look behind the curtain from the stories he would tell. One I remember very well is that he said he'd met several people who'd attended Bildeberg meetings and far from a coordinated effort in a dark shadowy room it was a lot of old bankers arguing and shouting at eachother.

     

    I think at this stage civil unrest is inevitable. What's not certain is what is going to come out of this. It seems a little like the 2021 and 2030 agendas weren't moving fast enough so they've basically pressed the self-destruct button on the current economic model in the hopes that they can pick up the pieces and create a more streamlined cashless system that they can pair with social credit and a universal basic income.

     

    What we've got to count on now is that this is moving too fast. More and more people are finally smelling a rat and favour for these policies is getting lower and lower. I've mentioned health passports to quite a few people recently and almost all have seen through it for what it really is: totalitarian control. Of course governments can just match the unrest with military action, but then they'll have to count on the army staying compliant, and if they're the only thing standing between the government and an angry mob coups are a real possibility.

     

    It could be a long dark road ahead of us, but I think we have to keep in mind the grand scale of this agenda and how history has taught us that keeping billions of people in check has so far never worked. The future is far from certain, but this could be an opportunity for real positive change.

     

    Great points. I reckon if 20% of the population, national or world, say NO  to these 'measures', it's game up for the bastards.

  9. 1 hour ago, smashstuff said:

    This is not a valid excuse.  If this were true, why not tell us?  "Bill Gates has threatened to release a 'real' virus if we don't lock down the country".  People would listen, and he has the biggest platform in the country to get the word out.

     

    Because the media machine will say he's lost his marbles, and make him a laughing stock. Such a thing may work if a large number of world leaders united to say it.

  10. On 9/8/2020 at 3:51 PM, Someone2630 said:

    You are being added to the database. When the time comes for six thugs to knock on your door with a 'doctor' or a 'nurse'. holding a hypodermic with Gates in it, it will be sooo much easier to find you. DISSIDENT! Use whatever force may be necessary. Time to start sharpening the ploughshares.

     

    It will never actually come to this. These people work by occult principles. They are not 'permitted' to force people to slowly kill themselves with a 'vaccine' or anything else. Only to TRICK them into believing it is harmless or 'for their own good' and having them take it voluntarily. That relieves them of the huge, monstrous karmic debt inherent in murdering billions of people. So even when the 'vaccine' is officially made 'mandatory', no one will be actually forced to take it, and there will ALWAYS be a way out, via some waiver or exemption form to fill. 

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