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  1. 5 hours ago, zArk said:

    pretty sterile language.viable. 

     a new born doesnt wear a suit and is off to the office

     

    No, thats because it is a newborn.

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

    why not throw a 3 year old into a pond and shout "swim to be viable"?

     

    Viable does not mean being able to swim.

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    breast feeding? nappy changes. then solid food. carry . pick up. change nappy. toilet train, teach to tie shoe laces, teach to cook and not burn down house

     

    Yes these are normal things one does when raising a child - not sure of your point here...

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    pretty much until 16-18 years old

     

    My 16 - 19 years old were able to cook, do laundry, shower, tie their shoes and toilet themselves by this age. No diapers by then. ;-)

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

    the dna of the baby is different to the mother. the baby is a sentient being with a right to life.

     

    The DNA is different in a miscarriage too... at early stages of gestation I think you would need to prove that a cluster of cells was a sentient being.

     

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    body autonomy applies to the foetus as well

     

    How?  The fetus is unable to comprehend body autonomy. Even fully grown human beings with severe mental retardation are unable to comprehend body autonomy and are unable to make decisions for themselves. They fall into another category because of this...as do fetuses who are not viable and able to sustain life on their own.

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    even a mass murderer gets the opportunity to defend their right to life

    terrorists, rapists, robbers but not the foetus

     

    Because a mass murderer is a viable life... it can breathe and live outside of a host. 

    My son`s friend was on life support at age 25... he could not make decisions for himself as he was unable to communicate due to his accident.The doctors said his brain was no longer functioning enough to survive by himself. His MOTHER had to be asked for permission to turn off his life support. I saw this young man in this state... He was no longer a viable life!!!

     

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    btw the government didnt pop the baby into her uterus. it wasnt immaculate conception. she was part of that baby making process and in 98.5% of abortions the baby is considered an inconvenience

     

    Then maybe the government should not be making decisions on whether the mother can or cannot pop the fetus out of her uterus. I`m not sure what immaculate conception has to do with it.... but much more than the `ìnconvenience`as you put it, is considered. You are extremely judgmental and that you feel a government should be deciding what a woman does with her body makes me feel rather judgmental of you to be honest.

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    have you actually looked at how an abortion  is done?

     

     I was a nurse... I`m guessing I know a little more than you do.

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    vacuuming a little helpless baby , ripping apart its limbs and body  is murder

     

    It is not a viable life - no -one rips arms and limbs off during any abortions I have seen.

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

    using pinchers to tear limbs off , crushing the skull amd body is murder

     

    You are dramatizing and no doubt unable to comprehend much more than your bias allows.

     

    5 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    the mother is the growing vessel for the sentient being and under our laws the baby is the possession and responsibility of the parents until adulthood but this does not give the mother the right to damage her possesion

     

     

    Again you are being dramatic in my opinion. I believe that the limits to gestation for terminations should always be based on the viability of the `being` in question. Also, remember that not everyone holds your religious views at least to the extreme extent that you do ( again just my opinion) and therefore you should not be forcing or attempting to force your beliefs on others.  I respect that you have an opinion.... and you can practice your beliefs in your own lives.... but for others the choice should always be theirs.

  2. 4 hours ago, zArk said:

    yes, got 4 . 2 were when my wife was older than the 'safe range' so we had all the pressure from the NHS and social opinions come flying into our lives.

     

    every day is a worry with children and i reckon 98% of women who had an abortion will be racked with guilt , worry and a massive sense of loss

     

    again i return to my point "who speaks for the baby?" 

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    I have 4 also. I also had an abortion !!!!  However, none of this is yours or anyone`s business, but just for the record I am not racked with guilt and worry as you suggest. Yes, I was told that if I continue with the pregnancy my cancerous cells could multiply and cause me a lots of problems, shall we say. Along with that I didnt want anymore children. So I made a choice. I decided that I would not risk my life and risk leaving my viable living children without a mother. I also weighed in the fact that I didnt want anymore children. So I guess i somewhat fit into your stats table and somewhat meet your opinion of murderer. Either way, I am not bothered by what you think...I am a good mother and person, not faultless but certainly no murderer.

     

    Your point of who speaks for the baby...ties in with your question about VIABLE. Viable meaning a viable life that can be sustained outside of the mothers womb. Once a fetus becomes viable and would be able to survive outside of it`s mother by being fed and if necessary given oxygen to the lungs then I believe it should be born... I believe their are limits that should be imposed on the gestation period for abortion. I also believe that circumstances are important as well as the right to choose. If someone delays an abortion to when the fetus becomes viable then a natural delivery or caesarian should be the option. ( Bear in mind doctor delays are often an issue) Again this is my opinion.

     

    This would bring us to a conversation about where to draw the line insofar as weeks of gestation for terminations. If you can get past this post and not feel totally appalled  then feel free to ask my opinion on timeline of gestation. I should add I did work as a nurse for many years. I`ve seen a lot...medically speaking.

     

     

  3. It used to be called The Pilton Festival.The full name being Pilton Folk, Blues and Rock Festival till 1970

     

    This article is interesting it mentions The Glastonbury Festival (new name ) and the NEW Pyramid Stage 1970!!!! Then:   

     

    ``In 2000, the modern Pyramid Stage was built, standing at 100ft high and covered in dazzling silver it became the iconic landmark for the festival that we all love.``

     

     

    https://www.portobellofarm.co.uk/a-brief-history-of-glastonbury-festival/

     

    It was used then (once it became Glastonbury Festival) as a way to promote agendas, which has carried on till today....cue Thunberg.

    ``The event was organised in conjunction with the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND), in order to help push the peace movement at the time. Michael Eavis convinced the CND that the event would be profitable in order to gain their support, this turned out to be true as he handed over approximately £20,000 to the cause.``

     

    ``On top of the advice they give to festival goers Glastonbury Festival also supports a number of organisations including Greenpeace, Oxfam, and WaterAid.``

     

     

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  4. 18 hours ago, zArk said:

    depends on perspective ,

     

    i hear the argument of foetus vs baby yet i summise it as 'an innocent helpless baby can be killed by its mother because it is helpless and requires its mother to live'

     

    It is not yet a baby that is viable.

     

    18 hours ago, zArk said:

    pretty sick in my opinion.

     

    also the word foetus and the helplessness argument says that it is different to the mother. The foetus is not part of the mother, the mother is a feeding system, the foetus is not her body. it is not a possession. 

     

    Yes potentially, futuristically  it is a separate life. But until it is a viable life it is solely dependent upon the `host` the mother. Until then it is most definitely part of the mothers body. It is within it. It feeds from it, it is dependent on it. It`s future life depends on that mother. Therefore it is that mother that determines what grows within her, not you and not anyone else! If you feel her decisions make you sick, that is your problem. No -one should be forced to do anything they do not want to do. Free agency... `God`given free agency if you are religious. You cannot murder something that cannot survive without it`s host. The host has full dominion over it, regardless of how it makes anyone else feel.

     

     

     

    18 hours ago, zArk said:

     

    also if the argument of possessional dependancy is accepted the eugenicists and Elite are rubbing their hands. Are most people not dependamt upon others for shelter, food, sanitation and even air is being used as a whipping stick with Extinction Rebellion  

     

    People, in our society, have no right to kill another. Murder of a child is considered up at the top of the list as most evil. To reiterate , a mother feeding amd sheltering a foetus does not gain the right to kill that foetus.

    @Beaujangles

    It is a perception issue

     

    `possessional depency`  hmm thats a weird construct.

     

    Bottom line, the mother is in possession of every organ or organism within her body, as everyone is. 

    She has the right to make decisions on any group of cells within her body.

    No-one is dependent on anyone else necessarily. Maybe through choice. Most people would seek a way to fend for themselves if stranded on an island alone. But a fetus is different. It is not an independent being. It is not a child. It is a fetus, a group of cells that is potentially a child once it is viable and can breathe for itself...which is not the period in time that is in question.  A pregnant mother is not `feeding`the fetus, the fetus is sucking nutrients from her...different.

     

    Yes on the one hand a perception issue. But that doesn`t mean that a perception that doesn`t recognize body autonomy is right.

     

    Do you have children yourself?

    I presume you are a female (in the normal context)?

    Have you ever been in a situation where you were pregnant with an incompatible with life` fetus?

    Have you ever felt so overwhelmed or depressed where you would take yourself to a back street abortionist if abortion wasn't freely available?

    Have you witnessed the trauma of rape and subsequent pregnancy?

    Have you been a 12 or 13 year old who has got pregnant?

    Etc Etc ( So many individual situations that need to be considered) 

     

    I`m not expecting answers to these personal issues - But...

     

    Until such time as you have experienced or witnessed such situations... you may want to reserve your perceptions and have another think. Other people should not be making decisions for someone own body. 

     

    It`s easy to sit back and make judgement calls...if you haven`t been in a situation to witness the many situations that arise re: pregnancies.

     

     

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  5. 2 hours ago, Athenry04 said:

     

    Curcumin apparently counteracts arsenic poisoning, you can buy pills online, but obviously get organic ones. I take a tab a day man, alongside NAC.

     

    Maybe add some B12 too:

    https://www.rxwiki.com/news-article/vitamin-b12-and-folate-may-protect-liver-protecting-dna

     

    ``Dietary vitamins B12 and B9 (folate) have been shown to be liver-protective against liver-toxins. Repeated exposure to liver-toxins can lead to fatty liver disease, a fate that supplemental B vitamins may resolve.

    It has been known for decades that vitamin B12 and folate mediate liver damage during poisoning from hepatotoxins (liver-poisons), such as carbon tetrachloride or arsenic. ``

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  6. 2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

     

    even if they are rigging these elections (and i believe that IS going on) there must still be a significant number of people voting for these clowns

     

    Absolutely the elections here are rigged. ...yes many clowns seem to vote for clowns. Braindead - wide eyed and clueless.

  7. On 6/22/2022 at 12:17 AM, zArk said:

    a 1 month old baby cant talk. the baby cant feed itself. the baby will die without 24/7 care and attention 

     

    can the mother murder declare death on her baby?

     

    You are talking about two different things. A fetus is not a viable life. It cannot breathe when delivered until it reaches the last trimester. A fetus from 6 months gestation is now a viable life that can possibly (depending on the individual circumstance) live outside of its mothers womb. 

     

    No-one can declare death on an independent being once it is a separate life. Inside of the mother it is not a separate life, until it is born. 

     

    If the mother commits suicide it is highly likely the fetus will die along with her. So yes the mother does have the right to choose what happens to herself and the fetus within her. I personally believe that no-one should be telling any woman what to do with her body or we will be seeing pregnant women in dire strait situations committing suicide or seeking back street abortions. Either way...if the mother makes a decision for her own body she makes it. Trying to stop her will open up many unfavourable avenues that will result in terrible consequences. We have been down this path decades ago....has nothing been learned?

     

    If coming from a religious standpoint...it is my understanding that `God`gave people free agency.... that means they make their choices. They decide  what they do and they live with the choice. Pro- choice is based on the right of a man or woman to choose. Once you take away free agency over ones own body, where someone else decides, we are at a cliff edge as far as freedom is concerned. 

  8. 5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

     

    and they will all want to come into europe for the benefits or into america or canada. And that's just the beginning.....when the famines really start to bite there will be tens of millions of people on the move

     

    No-one in their right mind would want to come to Canada right now under the `leadership`of the multi-coloured-sock wearing pervert come tyrant who is running this country. The people already here shall we say, politely discuss how they would like to see him removed.

  9. 2 hours ago, numnuts said:

    Even if you have no bad intentions, removing such posts on any thread is a slippery slope. Eventually, someone with bad intentions would take advantage of the ability to do it. Wouldn't they?

     

    I think if that is how someone thinks it is hard to have them think any other way.  I think you may have missed the point that it was dead links, and video links to dead space that was being discussed. Other forums with very large amount of daily posters will remove such dead links to de-clutter the thread and to keep the thread containing actual viewable material. No-one was suggesting removing active links and peoples content. I couldn`t give a toss whether or not this thread gets de-cluttered to be honest...I just find it rather odd that people get bent out of shape at the suggestion of removing links that no longer contain anything viewable...not even a clue to what existed before. But, hey if people enjoy sifting through dead links and blank space...far be it for me to upset their applecart.

     

    2 hours ago, numnuts said:

     

    I have quoted posts on this thread, then copied and pasted them from the quote box in to other threads quite a few times already. I always link the page on this thread that I have quoted from, on the other thread, when doing so. That way, folks can easily see if there were any follow-up comments made that might be of interest to them.    

     

    Yes, thats a good thing...I imagine it works well for posts that have interesting material and links.  I think if someone wants to start a thread or threads that make a related topic more concise that would be a good thing too. Can`t have too much of a good thing.... 

  10. 4 hours ago, sock muppet said:

     

    Please please please, do not be tempted to go through this thread looking for dead links and PRUNE them away, remember this thread is what we all lived through, think of it as a family album of misfits that together worked for the common good to expose the lies and deception being employed to coerce an unsuspecting public, and as i always say to others about topical news stories being fostered by the MSM is that the news always is between the lines of what is being said, and the exact same way dead links also are smoking guns, no matter how trivial the link was, it still still points to censorship, and then the correct response should be WHY?

    Besides the final word should go to @numnuts as the Author.

    Many times i have used the wayback machine for research but i don't have an account, so i am going to look into this as my next thing on the todo list.

    This thread is too important to mess with, it is HISTORICAL and we lived through it, warts and all.

    I have said enough and will say no more.

     

    All posters are the authors of this thread!!!

     

    Dead links and videos do not show anything at all!!!

     

    Maybe by the preserve at all costs logic, we should have a thread consisting solely of dead links and blank videos... 🙃🤯🤪

  11. 9 hours ago, Morpheus said:

    Just a suggestion @Beaujangles, the vids and links that don't work might be sourced on alternative websites. But I do agree that most information may be lost to the cleansing of Big Tech. I think it's a good idea, a thread with all the info we've posted since day one and no comments. 

     

    Yes, but when you cant see what the vids are - you dont know where or how to look to find them sourced elsewhere.. 

     

    I agree that an info only thread or rather threads regarding the individual content ( gov speeches - PCR - studies- vax stuff- propaganda - WHO- WEF- (all covid related infosources ) would be good in specific threads....and we dont need a moderator to initiate a new topic or thread.

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  12. 1 hour ago, sock muppet said:

     

    That is my hope, this thread should stand 'warts and all' for all to see, for all to know, for all to understand the emotional out pourings and trauma within this historical document, HISTORICAL is the word here.

    But i agree a companion sanitised version would be fantastic with reference points/links to parts omitted within it to the original thread.

    You did miss the point...the only posts I suggested were useless were posts with nothing left to see...as in videos that are gone...blank....black...no more. Also links that have been zapped completely either by censorship or removed in their entirety.

     

    This thread would then be left as a complete mixed library as it were...except all useful info could be categorized into separate thread topics....ie PCR info. Government wording and conflicting messages. Vaccine propaganda. Vaccine fatalities. Vaccine side effects....etc etc....but all categorized like libraries do but would be thread topics not book alcoves.

    I think it's a good idea...

     

    But don't worry...the blank vids...links and other useless posts will remain as moderators have to leave them....or else posters get bent out of shape....even if the removed posts are dead as a dodo.

     

     

     

     

     

  13. 2 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    Thanks Beau. I would not want the mega thread to end though as I think it needs to be kept as a 'master copy' if that makes sense. I also think any removing of videos should remain but with a 'link no longer working as of 26/06/22' sort of thing. I guess for me, what I am thinking is along the lines of trying to collate it in some way. You often see memes such as 'two weeks to flatten the curve >> masks for a short period >> to jabs etc and often they can easily be dismissed by people who no longer have recollection of the old 'narratives'. We know there are very few 'non awake' who would spend time going through all these pages, so I guess I was thinking more along the lines of collating certain info in to meaningful 'pockets' with the links and evidence so that it is not so easily debunked. 

     

    Saying to a 'normie' 'oh the evidence exists somewhere, I know it does' is not going to work. To be honest all my thinking started from considering going through the thread again but then I thought it would make more sense to do it with some sort of purpose and goal. There is so much great information in this thread but it is probably like having a library with no subject sections or index where the info is just 'somewhere in the building'. 

    I agree that the thread is the master copy. However the videos I am talking about are non existent now. So useless links. When you click it goes nowhere...same with error 404 links...even the websites don't exist...so imo it's pointless to have them clutter things up. 

     

    We know links and videos are being removed or banned or both....so unless we save the content from them at time of posting...it is lost.  

     

    It's impossible to put link inactive as of... Because often the link goes within hours and we have no idea when it was active until....A link posted in 2020...could have gone in 2020..2021 or 2022....we have no idea.

     

    But I do agree with salvaging what can be. I know some people know how to mirror videos and we can always take content from links at time of posting...and some people do....but often that content only comes back if and when the poster decides to post it.

     

    My previous post basically explained that it takes forever to sift through the thread and that it's got many empty links etc....I think it takes longer to go through a thread of thousands of posts when you have to check duff links and vids. I personally see no value in such posts...and on other forums such posts are removed...

     

    Anyway... Yes good idea to keep the info in this thread....and if you have time to put info from it into specific topics based on what's there...would be interesting. Would need a few new topics and gradually move the good info over...ie links, videos that do work etc etc. Won't be able to move posts as that's a moderator action.... But nothing stopping you...or me or anyone else trying to tidy the info and leave this thread as the mega muddle master lol

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  14. 5 minutes ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    This thread is such a wealth of information and historical data. Sometimes I feel like going back to page 1 and reading it again but bloody hell 4549 pages would be some task, especially without some bigger 'purpose'.

     

    Does anyone else feel like we could look at some volunteers to collate this information in to resource sections? Obviously keeping this thread as it is but there must be some very important data that we have now moved past that could be crucial in waking others up. I don't know what I am trying to say really, but I guess I mean is there something say 10 volunteers could do with all this info? It seems to be just 'sitting there' and all the nougats kind of lost within the whole? Am I making any sense here? 

     

    I tried weeding through it...there are a lot of dud videos as in no longer accessible, and links that go nowhere. It would definitely make sense to remove these and try to get some semblance of a streamlined collation. However, the forum doesn`t want these empty posts removed for some reason. I agree with you - it would make sense to try to keep and put things in some kind of order. First of all you`d have to get rid of the non functioning posts that i mentioned earlier and then work with whats left and put into possibly different threads according to the `theme` of the various posts. For example covid related vaccine posts, government dictates (country by country if necessary) etc etc all in order... date, country, vax side effects, memes, etc etc etc. But I know first hand that when trying to make sense of a thread in this way... a moderator gets chastised and berated. So it gets left as the mega muddled mix up that it is... with probably at least 20 -25% posts with non functioning videos and or links. Sad really...because you are right, as I was when I tried imo. Its a daunting task expecting anyone to go through this thread and sort the wheat from the chaff... even harder when it has no end of error 404 links and missing videos. But hey...gotta work with what we have I guess.

  15. 9 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

     

    Lying wankers! Don't people recognise that we've had sunshine before and it didn't lead to heart attacks! What the hell is wrong with people's mental faculties!

     

    God forbid anyone goes outside for a few rays eh... noooo gotta mask up, isolate and stay in a bubble...

    Anyone who followed this ritual needs a full psychological assessment and if they also got a clot shot or two, or three - and especially if begging for a fourth they need certifying as insane.

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  16. On 6/17/2022 at 5:55 PM, k_j_evans said:

    I don't remember 2018 being particularly hot here. 1976 was hot. We went and jumped in a nearby lake at lunch times as it was too hot to work.

     

     

    Couple of interesting websites here... Long before Greta was born...LOL:

     

     

    "The decade of the 1950s brought the Chicago area some of its hottest summers of record, landing four in the top ten warmest-1955, 1959, 1953 and 1954. The 1955 summer ranks as the city’s all-time warmest dating back to 1871 with an average temperature of 76.4, buoyed by the city’s warmest July (81.3 degrees) and third warmest August (78.7 degrees). The decade also placed five years in the top ten with the most days of 90-degrees or higher- 1955 (46), 1953 (42), 1959 (39), 1952 (38) and 1954(36). When considering the city’s longest heat waves, the city has logged four 11- day runs of 90-degrees or higher, all of them in the 1950s."

     

     

    https://wgntv.com/weather/the-hot-summers-of-1954-1955-and-1956/

     

    https://stacker.com/stories/4345/what-summer-weather-was-year-you-were-born

  17. On 6/12/2022 at 8:45 AM, oddsnsods said:

    Disturbing post, but I feel needs to be shown.

    “Queer” Academic Suggests Pedophilia Be Taught in Schools as an Innate Sexuality https://reduxx.info/queer-academic-recommends-pedophilia-be-taught-in-schools-as-an-innate-sexuality/

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    This world has been on a downward spiral in morality for sometime...but this literally throws it down the morality stairs... that dude has some hollow, vacuous eyes...

  18. 39 minutes ago, DaleP said:

    Interesting. Al Jazeera quoted David.

     

     

     

    I liked the part near the end where the guy being interviewed says that the Bildreberg Group and their ilk like to know what people think about them as it gives them insight. You can see why they like to listen to DI... he is showing to the world what the group is doing....so maybe they use his enlightenment to try to circumvent any fallout.  Got me thinking a bit... (happens occasionally ;-)  )

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  19. 1 hour ago, DaleP said:

     

    I am curious to know why @Beaujangles gave a confused smiley for this. 🤨

     

    Simple really... I thought I did a sad emoji (they look same to me) ....but either way... not sure its a big deal haha. What does your raised eyebrow emoji mean LOL.... I've never placed too much credence on the little blighters.

     

    I am not at all confused that Fauci is behind so much bullshit. I am fully aware that he is one sad sick bastard... along with more of his 'connections'... 

     

    I'll give up on the emoji's  💅

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