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I guess the ultimate being is pretty vague to human consciousness really, which is why many cultures choose to relate to it via pantheons of deities or classes of angels, etc. The Hindus would call this being Krishna

Smackhead? you mean he took legal meds that got him hooked? that happens in the modern world so do you judge people hooked on pain relief as smackhead? Abandoned his kids? is that a fact or opinion? in any case, people split up. Fact of life. You seem like the sort of person willing to believe the very worst about people without really checking the background.

Lol, its your go-to answer for everything isnt it.

So where is the law of the state in a discussion of thelema? a lot of it would be inimical to thelema.

Who said I dont have a relationship? again, you presume.

How am I exposing myself?

That statement in itself shows your ignorance. While the poo eating thing is gross, and I wont be trying, Im quite sure that Crowley might have done it because there is a part in his channelled writings that says 'subdue thy fear and disgust'. Eating a small amount of poo to overcome disgust may have been his intent. He did deliberately shag a load of ugly women as well to do this. I seriously doubt most thelemites would be interested in this though.

Nope but I do accept there is a universal creative spirit/ being. Maybe you consider that silly but I really dont care

Showing gratitude is dumb? your opinion. Out of curiosity why is such gratitude dumb? My tolerance has limits and bible thumpers often test them.

There is a difference between discussing thelema as a path and defending Crowley. Crowley wasnt perfect and his sense of humour got him into bother at a time when being anything other than a christian was risky. Challenging the status quo regarding liberty back then was a threat to the establishment and yet I see the truthers hating on him so much. If all those shitty things were written about Icke would you believe them without question? Why create a threat if all you want are posters who are going to be on your side, flinging shit? you might find some good info if you actually looked at his works.

lol, I give them a hard time but thats because they are often massive twats. I'm not interested in a superiority complex. I am a relatively humble person who is happy with what I have. I even thank God for the good things in my life.

You were very vague and I was just making a point.

And you keep it going. Why not have a nice debate about liber Oz for a starter then? Maybe you would prefer Snowdrops from a Curates Garden?

But you support cannabalism and a bible that allows genocide, even against women and children. One of the prophets even set a bear on some children because they mocked his baldness. You support a book used to justify murder and child abuse. Tell me from your seat in heaven, does God have any more mass extinctions planned for the world because he isnt happy about how his creation has went?

There you go, so arrogant that you already have a place there. Cocky enough to be judging others because you feel safe. The first will be last dont you know? get to the back of the line satan

Cultures always change over time. Do you think christian cultures are the same now as 100 years ago? even the Roman mass has been changed in the last century.

I'm not promoting it, just discussing it. I dont care what paths people choose to follow as long as they dont interfere with the paths of others, except where its essential for peoples safety, etc. To me tolerance is not just putting up with people you dont like but trying to understand why people are different without burning them by default because of a superiority complex.

The church is the body of christ isnt it? even if you dont defend the organisation you still uphold the book that others use to justify abuse of various kinds.

Why? you dont like it so others shouldnt have the choice?

Your arrogance is astounding. Isnt pride a sin? You are not God, you have no authority and a book of pseudographic writings gives you no authority.

Of course I have a problem with such things but you are the person that defends a religion in which murder and child abuse has been committed on a massive scale and covered up. Anyway, your judgements put you in death and hell too.

Judge not, for as you judge....................................

Lol, thats a very vague statement. According to thelema diversity is a reality. You talk of people being controlled but you abhor diversity. In effect you want things controlled so things are not diverse, so you are not troubled by things you dont like. Lack of central control promotes diversity.

No, but your reply is that of a frightened person who is scared of what is inside themselves if they dare to look. For people like you a nice book which lays it all out, where your only obligation is to believe in Jesus is a far safer option. Maybe you are afraid there is a pederast or murder inside you just waiting to get out? Jesus was betrayed by somebody very close but maybe your betrayer is a bit closer.