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  1. Yes, a sunset on a beach and some birds. I can see the error of my ways now.
  2. Because you pulling thirty degrees out of your arse beats describing flat earth astronomy using trigonometry, right? arctan height/distance = angle above horizon on a that earth, using your height and half the approximate circumference of the earth as the diameter.
  3. The key symbol relating to Egypt and Christianity is the Staff of Asclepius. It relates to the crucifixion (John 3:14) and to the contest between Moses and the Egyptian magicians. This in turn goes back to the Abrahamic covenant and the role of blood sacrifice. In the Christian context the serpent represents the murderous priesthood.
  4. Edom = "red", Edom = Rome, Edom = Esau And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. Malachi 1:3
  5. Point a and point b are imaginary, they don't have any connection to reality. In reality the sun sun disappears from view when it crosses the actual horizon, not an imaginary one. Of course this can't happen on a flat earth because the horizon is the same for all observers and it's always daytime somewhere.
  6. It wasn't what they thought it was. Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith YHWH of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. Zechariah 13:7
  7. No, when I posted the picture I said that the observer was at the equator. The sun orbiting around the equator is a simple example, if you think that a different orbit would make a difference then how would you describe that orbit? If you can't describe a different orbit then the simple conclusion is the earth is not flat because the sun is not above the horizon at midnight like the model says that it should be.
  8. I use the earth's circumference of approx 25000 miles as the diameter of the flat earth. In my diagram the horizontal distance is half that. When you're calculating the sunrise and sunset distance you can use Pythagoras' Theorem to get the horizontal distance as the diagonal of a square with a side length of one quarter the diameter. 8839^2 = (25000/4)^2 + (25000/4)^2 The visual limit for an observer in a boat on a calm ocean is the simplest horizon to use, there's no 30 degrees to complicate things in that case.
  9. OK, let's use your sun height. h/d = 3800/12500, so arctan h/d = 16.9 degrees above the horizon at midnight. At sunrise and sunset h/d = 3800/8839 -> 23.3 degrees above the horizon. Sphere heads for the win. Can any flat earther explain how the math is wrong, or how the sun can be around seventeen degrees above the horizon at midnight?
  10. Using the FE wiki sun height of 5000 miles and 25000 miles for the diameter (h/d=5000/12500) you get a minimum sun elevation of twenty degrees (at midnight). At sunrise & sunset h/d = 5000/8839 which is 29.5 degrees like you said.
  11. You can calculate the minimum angle using the standard flat earth numbers for the height of the sun and the diameter of the earth. In my picture the observer is at the equator, so d is half the diameter of the earth. angle α = arctan h/d
  12. http://thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Neutral_Point.html L1 wasn't where it was predicted to be. If the difference was due to non-sphericity of the Earth or the moon then L1 would change over time.
  13. You don't get a choice. The only difference is that you can't deal with the facts that don't fit into your model of the world.
  14. Irrelevant for measuring mean velocity just like earthquakes.
  15. Pure apologetics. You have no way of knowing what all the possible claims are. Newtonian gravitation hasn't changed. If L1 wasn't where it was predicted to be based on that, then it's not a sufficient model to describe the forces that a rocket will experience going to the moon and back. If the model is wrong then that's news, but NASA never made that claim. Saying that it's unreliable is mere hand-waving, the difference between predicted and actual values were not insignificant.
  16. You don't feel that you're moving on an airplane when it's cruising either, so it doesn't tell you anything about useful about whether the earth is flat or not.
  17. If the earth was flat, Polaris should be visible from any point on the Earth at night, but it's not visible south of the equator.
  18. You're assuming your conclusion. It's impossible for the sun to set on a flat earth. That's why calculating the minimum distance matters, to show that the theory is falsified by the facts.
  19. Debunking means nothing other than that an apologist is trying to convince people that the material is of no value. The "adjustment" of Earth-Moon Lagrange L1 is the first clue that NASA can't be trusted to be up-front about the technical challenges of getting a man to the moon and back using the rocket technology of the 1960's.
  20. Quoting from bflat. They use a flat nonrotating eath as a mathematical model because for a small enough section of earth the deviation from a spherical model is inconsequential. It's exactly the same as using a flat paper map of a city instead of using a globe.
  21. It's important because the human condition is one of error.
  22. Oversimplification leads to error. The minimum angle of the sun above the horizon of a theoretical flat earth depends on the location of the observer and involves trigonometry, it's not exactly simple.
  23. No, humans got their name from Rome. Cicero was the first do describe the human condition as polite and proper men; i.e. "civilized". "appellari ceteros homines, esse solos eos, qui essent politi propriis humanitatis artibus" (De re publica I, xvii, 28). above all, besides men exists only who are polite proper humanity exactly https://www.wordsense.eu/humanitas/
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