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Maybe it has something to do with the Earth being flat. Lol (sarcasm)

This thread is about a author and his research into alien contact. This thread does not include "silly youtube videos", unless you consider "silly" a former US Air Force CAPTAIN and his recount about alien activity deactivating nuclear weapons at a military base. Define "obvious disinformation".... Have you read the book, Confirmation, by Whitley Strieber? If not then why come into the thread and ridicule the content being discussed? Because you are afraid of the unknown? There are names of real people cited in the book. I've also linked to the book by Phil R. Hill which give the reader insight into the propulsion system being uses by some of the "UFO" craft. You are free to bow out of this thread at any time if you find the content to be "disinformation" despite many people sharing their encounters and not expecting any monetary compensation.

I agree Bombadil, he did well in that situation despite possibly being able to lay waste to those girls simply because he could. Yeah the whole world have been brought to a point where everyone is on edge, including myself at times, which is why it is important to disengage from politics frequently and take a few deep breathes and think logically how we can move forward in a positive direction. I have my doubts about Trump, and certainly about Biden. Also, I stopped by to drop off the Biden interview with George Stehpanopoulos that Twitter censored from their platform. https://www.bitchute.com/video/idbzF2YwWaOB/

Dropping this link here for now so I can find it later. https://2012portal.blogspot.com/2020/10/final-battle-update.html?fbclid=IwAR027Z-d5B3NABjlZLFghT4iKhivELdMJ4Cv-HwhRVjHil5j52SX7_D93kk

Lol, clearly you are still offended.

Or to the Roman Catholic church. And in the middle of all that is sheldon adelson in Las Vegas who donated a very large sum of money to the Trump campaign. I think it's important to point out also that in all of this, Trump has wilbur ross jr on his team and that man worked for Rothschild for years if I recall correctly. So one of the biggest names in the NWO faction is linked to trump only a few degrees of separation. Then there is James Casbolt aka Michael Prince who says that "Rothschild so rich he can build colonies on Mars". Then in the film I posted in the Tech section, someone said that now with the tech we have (in the aerospace industry) it takes only a few minutes to get to Mars. Then there is also the band, Thirty Seconds to Mars, as if they are trying to tell us something. And then Max Spiers also said that there is a Mars "jump room" at 666 Sepulveda Blvd in CA and when I looked up the address I think it was a Lock heed Martin building, but I would have to double check that. So these guys at the very top definitely have access to stuff that most people would never dream of, and this is the reason why their agents are now pushing flat Earth crap for more confusion and ignorance.

Hi Nobby, Oh no you are advocating murder! Shame on you. (sarcasm) He looks and sounds like a British guy to me with his silver hair and accent.

Why take such offense if you are not a person who litters? I do not support mass murder, for the record, but I do support rounding up litter bugs and shipping them to a deserted island or a planet far away from Earth. We could ship them all to Pluto, that's far enough away. Stop littering, the planet is not a garbage can nor is it an ashtray.

No but perhaps I am actually more virtuous than you and you're jealous. Hahahaha You are free to add me to your ignore list, it won't hurt my feelings one bit, but please stop littering, not for me, for the future generations so they can enjoy this beautiful planet too.

Actually it's not a load of bullshit if we look at the facts but I will make a separate thread next time. My patience for unconscious lazy selfish humans has run out in regards to litter. It's 2020, humanity have been on this planet for thousands of years so why have people not learned that littering is wrong? It's not that difficult to understand but it seems there are millions of parents out there who have failed to teach their children to put garbage in its respectable place, a garbage can, not on the ground. Ok so maybe people don't like Attenborough, fair enough, but there are plenty of other people out there in the world whom have made their own documentary about how humans are wrecking the Earth, are they all bullshit too? No. People need to wise up and start having some Goddamn respect for the planet. True story, So yesterday I thought, I've been a real asshole the past couple days on the Icke forum, I need to get out and go for a walk in nature and decompress, nature usually helps me do that. So I visited a forest preserve that I had not yet been to near the Fox river and as I'm walking the trail I see this couple walking their dog, they see me and my friend walking and they get a strange look on their face, a guy and girl and their dog. They turn out of the trail and walk away from us and the young guy is wearing a tank top and on the back it says "military police" So my friend and I walk down the path where the couple had just been, I was curious to see it they had let their dog shit and not pick it up, because that it another common theme amongst these unconscious selfish mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers, they seem to be too insecure to pick up their dog's shit, like it's such a big deal. So I'm walking the path and sure enough I find a bag of dog shit. This is a new thing I've noticed, people will pick up the dog shit with the bag and tie it in a knot but then toss it on the ground. Bloody brilliant! So now the dog shit won't break down because it's in a plastic bag! So now instead of simply having dog shit there on the path which eventually breaks down from the rain and elements, it will sit there for hundreds if not thousands of years until the plastic breaks down. Marvelous! The people who do this clearly are geniuses. NOT. Now, I cannot prove that it was this "military police" dumbarse with his skank girlfriend but they were the only other people there with a dog and the bag looked like it had recently been tossed down with the way it was sitting on top of some leaves and still upright. Now, obviously I'm not directing this post or my litterbug rants at people who clean up after themselves, but for those who are taking offense perhaps it's because you are guilty of littering and maybe you should consider extending a bit more respect to your fellow humans and Earth and all her creatures. I know I'm not the only one pissed about this, but I may be the only person with balls enough to speak about it and not worry about pissing off the village people. Keep littering and destroying Earth and keep denying that it's happening, and maybe we get more corona virus psyops and lock downs which I may be happy to see since they really didn't affect me the first time. Or people can behave as adults and admit that it's a problem and we can deal with it properly. Besides, it's not like I have ruined the entire thread, I made what, five, six posts about it on one or two pages in a thread with over 300 pages? Quite the reason to get panties in a bunch. Have a nice day Illuminator.

Hi Oz, Yeah you are correct in all of that, I've heard it from many insiders too. I've actually never heard Alex Jones talk about it but I haven't listened to him in years. Maybe he has changed up his content a bit but I prefer to get the information from people who have worked in the industry or for government. That guy Al Bielek who I posted one of his presentations that you seemed to enjoy, in one of them he mentioned briefly how the Nazi's found age regression and that Josef mengele had used it and was living years younger in NY after WWII. I find all this stuff so fascinating. Here are a few images I found from a quick search of "vimana flying machine". I'm going to try and finish up the film tonight.

Awesome post, will check out the film later when I have time, thanks Dagmar.

I have been meaning to start a thread that explores the technology and hardware being used by a small group of people to travel space. This thread is definitely not for small-minded people who if they don't understand something then they believe that it must not be real or possible. If you're a flat Earther the physics involved with these craft will hurt your brain. If you really want to know what's going on with the aircraft industry and the space program, I mean the real space program, the one that has been hidden from the public for over sixty five years, a person needs to put in the time (hours upon hours) listening to those who have been in the industry for decades and have finally decided that it is safe to share the information. In some cases it still is not safe to share the information which is why most people are not aware of this content, because those who work with it have literally had their life threatened if they go public. The video I'm starting off with is allegedly a documentary made by a man named James Allen in 2009 but then scrapped after he learned some more information and so then he started making a new film. This is that film. Even if you don't believe it because it's difficult to confirm who James Allen is, or rather was, there is no denying Mark McCandlish's information as it can be corroborated by many sources. Not only McCandlish but there are countless US Air Force lieutenants and colonels and majors who make an appearance in the following film. I watched this film last night loosely while browsing other sites, but tonight I will listen diligently and write as the film plays. National Press Club in Washington D.C. May 9, 2001. (note: months before 9-11 would happen despite a few insiders saying that a terrorist event would happen. They were ignored by the mainstream media and government) The Disclosure Project. From the film: Unusual and unprecedented event taking place (the NPC meeting in 2001). Over 20 individuals from the highest levels of the US military and intelligence and aerospace industries, NASA international air traffic controllers, scientists, radar operators, pilots etc and other experts with extremely high security clearances all came together to share their experiences concerning extraterrestrials and UFO's. Put together by the Disclosure Products and Dr. Steven Greer, it was to promote open hearings in congress dealing with UFO and extra terrestrial phenomena going back over fifty years. For those of you who don't like Dr. Steven Greer, I don't care, he's way smarter than you, and big deal if he wants to be compensated for his work. David Icke has spoke about Reptilians for decades and yet very few people have seen one yet he still charges money for his books, as he should, and I don't see people here complaining about that. Charging money to go to a alleged alien contact site is also a good way to weed out the flakes. I also imagine that Greer may conduct a screening process since aliens are reported to communicate telepathically which means a person would have to have strong control over their thoughts in order to not convey fear or anger to the other beings. Imagine being much more advanced than humans, you would not want to see or feel their mental pollution (for example, politics, BLM, antifa, Trump vs Biden and all that ridiculous crap - mental pollution). Something to consider before you trash talk Dr. Greer for the way he conducts his affairs when he considers who he will allow to attend his contact events. Highlights: At 2:50, Photo of Don Phillips who worked for Lockheed Skunk Works and helped design the SR71 Blackbird recon plane speaks about UFO's. Objects under intelligent control doing impossible maneuvers at thousands of miles per hour. Photo now of Captain Robert Salas US Air Force as he speaks... Glowing red orbs hovering outside the front gate and disabling nuclear missiles deep underground. "We lost between six and eight weapons that morning". I believe this was in Montana or Minnesota at a military base. Alien structures on the moon Sgt. Karl Wolf US Air Force speaks about buildings on the moon, "he proceeded to put photographs down in front of me, structures mushroom shaped buildings, spherical shaped buildings, and towers". Now Major George A. Filer US Air Force speaks, "There had been UFO's in the ? ...all night, they're on radar, but in any case an alien had been come off the craft and had been shot by a military police man and apparently was wounded"... Now Mark McCandlish is shown and described by the narrator, an aeronautics illustrator, he worked for Rockwell Int'l, Boeing, and the US Air Force. He spent over a decade in R&D on the main focus of the technologies connected to UFO's and extra terrestrial vehicles. His detailed technical illustration of a purportedly reverse engineered alien craft, the Fluxliner, a strange flying disk shown at a secret air force air show in 1988 was a highlight of the conference. (although he did not see it, but he drew it as a friend of his described it to him) "These disks were hovering off the floor without any visible means of support, they were referred to as alien reproduction vehicles. Also nicknamed the Fluxliner because they used high voltage electricity." Now Dr. Greer is questioned by a lady at the National Press Club. She is asking about the energy source of the aircraft and how can you determine this vehicle is not something that is being developed by a government agency. Dr. Greer: In fact I think that was the testimony. This is an alien reproduction vehicle, just to be clear, this means it is based on advanced anti gravity and zero point energy propulsion systems. They are being manufactured by a consortium of companies that include Lockheed Martin, Northrup, SAIC, and other corporations. This is not a jet internal combustion system at all, it is actually kicked in by a type of electric power source and then accesses this ambient zero point energy field that is responsible for all matter and energy existing, and by special configurations and what have you, it causes a cancelation of mass inertia and an anti gravity effect. They do have super luminal capacity, in other words, faster than the speed of light capacity. Mark McCandlish comes back on to give you basic information re his education and career. For thirty years he was a conceptual artist and designer working for the defense and aerospace industries. He explains his learning of the Fluxliner from a colleague. He worked for General Dynamics for some time and then free lanced. Mark explains how he learned of the Fluxliner from his friend Brad who attended an air show at Norton Air Force Base where he saw the Aurora aircraft and then the Fluxliner behind a curtain where three flying saucers were revealed. He said they looked like a jello mold, dome shaped on the top, flat on the bottom. "They were hovering, there was no landing gear, nothing holding them up, no cables". "high electrical charge - flux". A.R.V. = alien reproduction vehicle. "capable of light speed or better" "field propulsion" "Biefield Brown Effect experiments done back in the 60's levitating things with electro static fields". "Scalar energy". "Dr. Thomas Bearden". ......Neither the scalar photon the time polarized photon are individually observable. But if you somehow can combine the two they are observable as instantaneous quantum potential". At 28:30 Mark explains the verification of the Fluxliner with a story told to him by a Kent Sellen (second point of confirmation) who worked with the Air Intelligence Agency who claimed to have seen the craft at Edwards Air Force Base in 1973. Lt. Col. John Williams discusses Norton Air Force Base and the Alien craft and the few people who could fly out to the base, play some golf, and see the craft. Gordon Novel brief footage explaining that he pursues the technology behind making the crafts go. Mark explains that this ARV may have been around before 1966 according to photographs he saw taken by Wendell Stevens. At 36:25. In fact, in a translation in a Sanskrit text written by a middle eastern king in eleventh century there were references to Vimanas or flying machines with a propulsion system bearing a striking resemblance to that of the ARV. Strong and durable must the body of Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with it's ion heating apparatus underneath, by means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, the man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. At 37:30 Mark now talks about the literature about "Vimana" the so-called mercury vortex or mercury turbine engine. Mercury vortex generator. The central column has a number of components a couple of counter rotating cylinders, sounds very much like the device that the Nazi's were developing in the Wenceslas mine in Poland towards the end of the second world war. There seems to be some evidence that they were trying to develop some kind of an anti gravity propulsion system or zero point energy device. Later in the film I heard the last time I watched it a person mention that thanks to the tech we have now (military) that it takes only a few minutes to get to Mars. More on that later. Zero Point - The Story of Mark McCandlish and the the Fluxliner Channel: KReport eu The film is 1:32:51. I'm about over a third of the way through and will finish up later, but for now, here also are some screenshots in order of their appearance in the film:

In a post above DI user "Lord Humungus" made a comment directed towards me which included some abbreviated letters, "TDS", which slipped past me. I re-read his post earlier today and noticed that and had no idea what TDS meant so I looked it up. TDS according to google: "Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term for criticism or negative reactions to United States President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational, and have little regard towards Trump's actual policy positions, or actions undertaken by his administration." I this find to be hilarious that a person who does not have control of their own mind would say that I have "trump derangement syndrome" when I have no allegiance to either of the political parties. The TDS comment just goes to show the lack of mentality that people have who are trapped inside that political ping pong mental prison, the way they latch on to one of the two political parties as if their party is better, all the while completely ignoring the fact that BOTH democrat and republican parties are controlled and owned by the same people at the top of the pyramid: black magicians who run the banking industry and the corporate world. Weak ignorant people will deny this and call it a conspiracy theory so that they don't have to accept the facts that prove the party they have latched on to are really not much different from the other party that they despise. When we peel back layers of the onion and examine legislation over the years that has been penned into law we find that BOTH republicans AND democrats signatures are on tyrannical unjust bills. The Smith Mundt act is one example, this one in particular gave the government the ok to use propaganda on citizens. Here is the dot gov website for the Smith Mundt act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/5736 Sponsor: Rep. Thornberry, Mac [R-TX-13] (Introduced 05/10/2012) Committees: House - Foreign Affairs Latest Action: House - 05/10/2012 Referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. So you can see that it was sponsored by a REPUBLICAN. Now, it says for "foreign affairs" but the US gov have been using propaganda on US citizens for decades. There are plenty of other examples I could cite about BOTH political parties drafting and signing laws that are bad for the people but give the government a free pass to conduct tyranny, theft, murder, etc. These many examples also prove that the judicial system is a fraud, but we will never see any judges online or on TV admitting it, they will deny it all the way to the grave. I firmly believe that the people who are trapped inside the political paradigm prison are part of the problem as they often times refuse to acknowledge the faults within their own party while they place blame on the other party thus trying to absolve themselves of responsibility. I also believe that a large percentage of the adult population across the globe are simply large children and the world's current affairs are an indication that this assertion is true, unfortunately. So no, I do not have "trump derangement syndrome", what I do have is a high level of consciousness and awareness thanks to years of research and healthy eating, thus I do not latch on to either political party who are in essence one in the same.

These animals destroy property when a basketball team wins. I can't wait to see how they react to the results of the "election". Either way they are going to destroy property, win or lose. Dozens Arrested, Businesses Vandalized After Lakers Celebrations Turn Violent