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Son of a Toolmaker! I just made it up. It should be used for gross incompetence.

Queens University Belfast Abstract The European Convention on Human Rights does not explicitly protect the right to work; Link - https://pure.qub.ac.uk/en/publications/the-right-to-work-in-the-echr Oh FFS! So if your a farmer, they can take the right away for you to farm your own land. Starmer will do it with Digital ID. EU with Article 8 - No explicit right to work. Any Europeans on here? Why the f*ck did you vote for this sh*t?.

Neil Oliver says this could be the thing that brings them down. Mass non compliance. Lets hope so! 'Let me spell it out' He says. 'You will not work without ID' Does the EHCR have anything about denying someone the right to work? I'll go look.

Lol. I got a cat, that disturbs me. But you wanna talk about crazy people throwing things off buildings? Look what the Muslims do, they don't just throw animals off buildings, they throw human beings, actual people off buildings! Can you believe that Shabriss? I'm not making it up, I've seen videos of ISIS doing it. And here, taught in Mosques in the UK, they teach them the punishment for Homosexuality is to throw them off a building! Can you believe that Shabbirss, it's absolutely crazy right? I mean an animal is one thing, but to actually murder people this way is just incredible isn't it? Crazy, crazy people. They're not content to just throw them off buildings, then they stone them as well! Man, that is some crazy f*cked up sh*t, by some crazy people! Don't you agree? I enjoy playing this game with you, Shabbirss. Lets keep playing it.

Hamas rejects Abbas’ UNGA remarks, affirms right to resist occupation In response to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ address to the United Nations General Assembly, Hamas issued a statement reaffirming its stance on Palestinian resistance and rejecting what it described as attempts to delegitimize its role. Hamas emphasized that Palestinian resistance is a national and moral responsibility, deriving its legitimacy from the steadfast Palestinian people and their natural right to resist occupation, as recognized by international law. The movement strongly rejected Abbas’ alignment with what it called a “false Zionist narrative” that seeks to portray resistance as targeting civilians. The statement criticized Abbas’ assertion that Hamas should have no role in governance, describing it as an infringement on the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination and an unacceptable submission to external pressures. Hamas reaffirmed that its weapons cannot be compromised as long as the occupation persists, particularly in light of the ongoing “indiscriminate war” in Gaza and the crimes committed by 'Israeli' settlers and the military against unarmed civilians in the occupied West Bank. The movement stressed that the only path to protecting the Palestinian cause and resisting the occupation’s policies, including the threat of displacement in Gaza, annexation of the West Bank, and the Judaization of Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa,is through national unity and a comprehensive struggle program. Hamas reiterated its commitment to achieving the aspirations of the Palestinian people: liberation, return, and the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital. Link - Royal News

Britain owes Palestine’ petition handed in at No 10 demanding reparations Organisers said the petition shows how ‘ongoing Palestinian suffering can be traced directly to Britain’s violations of international law’. Sam Hall Wednesday 10 September 2025 16:34 BST A "Britain owes Palestine” petition demanding an apology and reparations from the UK for alleged historic international law violations has been handed in at Downing Street. The petition demands the UK take responsibility for “serial international law violations” including alleged war crimes committed during the British occupation of Palestine between 1917 and 1948. The 400-page legal document, which was handed into No 10 on Wednesday, launches the Britain owes Palestine campaign demanding official UK acknowledgement of “wrongdoing, apology and reparations for creating a century of oppression”. The petition’s organisers said it details Britain’s “unlawful legacy” including the Balfour Declaration in 1917 which stated support for establishing a home for Jewish people in Palestine, “acting as an occupying power during its self-granted mandate” and “subsequent systematic abuse of the Palestinian people”. Link - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-palestine-palestinian-uk-government-jewish-b2824024.html What did they say the other day - "2 Trillion would be a good place to start"

Every adult in the UK will soon be required to have a digital ‘Brit-card’ ID Sarah Hooper Published September 25, 2025 3:38pm Updated September 25, 2025 5:51pm Prime Minister Keir Starmer is set to announce that all working adults in the UK will be required to have a government-issued digital ID card. New plans, which Starmer will unveil tomorrow, are hoped to help tackle levels of illegal immigration and make it easier to identify if a person can live and work in the UK – whether a citizen or those on visas. The so-called ‘Brit-card’ would be shown when starting a new job, and would be checked in a large database of people entitled to work in the UK. Earlier this month, home secretary Shabana Mahmood said: ‘I think that a system of digital ID can also help with illegal working and the enforcement of other laws as well. I do think that has a role to play in dealing with our migration. My long-term personal political view has always been in favour of ID cards.’ Snip Breaking from Metro Despite the fact he's been told it won't stop the boats and have very little effect on illegal working, and all the Liberty organizations speaking against it, he's going to do it. This is the left, creating problems to enact their ideology, despite any evidence to support it working.

Jesus as a teacher or historical person?

I can't fault that Grumpy. It's a correct piece of the puzzle. Unfortunately until people fully realize we all have an individual responsibility and can't delegate to other's, the herd will always be led. I don't follow Robinson, I didn't like him from the start, BUT, seeing him on that march, seeing the speech he gave at the end, it's changed my mind a bit. I think he's beginning to get it. He can be used, his reputation can tarnish what he touches. Violence will only be spun against him. He seems to realize that now. Was he ever Far Right and just how far was he. Like I say, I don't follow the bloke, but he got over 100,000 people to march mostly peacefully in protest against the correct thing. That's something. And I'm glad he did it.

What temple? Jesus was born in Bethlehem., then moved to Nazareth. At the time of Jesus' birth there were about 100 people living in Bethlehem. No temple. Nazareth existed ad a small outcrop of dwellings during Jesus' time there, about 50 people lived there. No temple. So what Temple was built for 100 people in Bethlehem at that time? There was certainly no Temple in Nazareth during his time. So what Temple did he teach in? From Google - There isn't a single "temple in Bethlehem" but rather a history of religious structures, including the ancient Temple of Adonis built over Jesus's birthplace, which was later replaced by the Church of the Nativity in the 4th century AD. The current Church of the Nativity is a sacred site for Christians, and beneath it, archaeological evidence suggests the area had a significant First Temple Period presence and was later inhabited until the Roman occupation in the 2nd century AD. The Temple of Adonis: After Christians recognized the site of Jesus's birth, the Roman Emperor Hadrian built a temple to the pagan god Adonis over the sacred spot around 135 AD. The Church of the Nativity: Emperor Constantine later destroyed Hadrian's temple and built a church over it in 339 AD, which was subsequently destroyed. So, no temple in Bethlehem except to Pagan gods built 135 years after Jesus was there. No temples in Bethlehem. So what Temple did he teach in?

This is supposed to be proof?

Palestinians would not be being robbed of their land or being slaughtered if Hamas was not in control and stark raving mad radicals calling to slaughter all Jews, establish an Islamic caliphate in the land of the Jews. Just because the Palestinian people are largely innocent does not mean you can leave a terrorist government in control of the land who will continue to perpetuate terror attacks on Israeli citizens. Actions have consequences.

@wagdog19 I can't be bothered to write it out for you. So here's some screenshot. Tony Blair, the man who opened our country’s borders to destroy our society and make us multicultural. Fabian. Most of Labour serving ministers who are continuing to allow uncontrolled immigration, facial recognition, have recognised Islamic terrorists against the Jews and are planning Digital ID and Digital Currency. Fabian. No founding member of Fabian Society was Jewish. Sadiq Khan, a muslim, who denies grooming gangs in London on behalf of his Muslim brothers. Fabian. The people who have destroyed our society are British Fabians. Fabians are encouraging Islamic immigration, allowing radical mosques to operate, granting funds and cheap leases to new Mosques. Recognizing Islamic terrorist state. Socialism and Communism do not believe in Religion. Sadiq Khan is a Muslim Fabian, not a Jew. Labour has admitted anti Semitic feelings in their party. Charlie Kirk, a supporter of Israel was shot by a Lefty. The Left support Hamas against Israel. The Left, who have done all the damage to this country are anti Israel, anti Christian and anti Nationalist's. But I guess you think they are all Crypto Jews or on the Payroll of Israel. If not that, what do you think? Sadiq Khan is working for the Jews? The pro Muslim protesters are paid by the Jews? The Muslims and ISIS fighters among them arriving on boats are being sent by the Jews? Is ISIS and HAMAS in league with the Jews?

Yes, i think that's correct. All under the socialist or fascist (corporate rule) system. We will be economically broken, our societies changed beyond our traditional norms and enslaved with a huge debt we will never pay off, in a system 100% rigged to big business. Controlled through Digital ID, Digital currency and oppressive surveillance. Edit. But don't worry too much, the times, they are a changing. Edit2. I disagree that the Right will automatically take a Pro Israel stance, they are Jew haters, always have been, always will. They won't automatically take the opposite view. Despite all the evidence pointing to our corrupt leaders, there are still lots of people who think the Jews are behind all this. They are not.

Sadiq Khan's huge grooming gang failure exposed by Met Police whistleblower EXCLUSIVE: Retired detective Jon Wedger says he identified at least 52 victims of abuse by a sex gang targeting care homes in London Sadiq Khan is facing pressure to resign over his failure to accept there is a grooming gang problem in London It comes after a police whistleblower revealed to the Express that the “horrific crime” has been rife in London for 20 years. Over the course of 2025, the London mayor has dodged questions on the topic on nine separate occasions, but now a former Metropolitan Police detective has claimed there was a "cover-up." Link - https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2107879/sadiq-khans-sickening-grooming-gang His denial has caused young girls to commit suicide because they are not being believed. This is not Far Right whipping up anti Muslim sentiment. This is happening today in our society.

Do you think all those mum's protesting in Epping follow Tommy Robinson on social media? No. They have faced their daughters coming home from school telling them they've been followed by some weird bloke, or approached by a group of foreigners. They have seen assaults increase in their towns. Thats what's driven their protests.

Agreed. Many are, but lots of Pakistanis are extreme Muslim, as are Afghan's, but not all Afghan's, then there's Iranians, many of whom will be sick of the regime in Iran. Plus we know there are ISIS fighters coming in according to British Intelligence reports. Well, 100,000 people on the streets, ordinary mums worried about their kids in Epping and other towns would disagree with you. Did you see the video of Sharia Patrols on our streets? Did you see Sadiq Khan refusing to admit there are Muslim grooming gangs raping young girls in Londonnfor the last 25 years or so? But you think its a distraction for something else and peoples sentiment to rape and cultural invasion is unwarranted? It's just a shame it is Robinson organizing the protest, but at least he's taking notice of the current threat facing us. As for its a distraction for something else, no, it's the tool for something else. Socialism.

It's PDF so I got an AI summary. Then this happened. But Starmer, in his wisdom, with all the advice and legal resources at the government's disposal, goes against what Islam itself rules on Hamas and what Islam itself says who the land belongs to and how Islam itself views the statehood of Palestinian people. Like I said - NOBODY can be that dumb. Although looking at the left wing pro immigration protesors, seeing their videos on social media, I have to concede, some people are so dumb they are oxygen wasters. And these matters are way beyond their intellect. However, I believe Starmer and Labour are pretending to be this dumb, because it advances their ideology. Starmer can destroy this country and claim he was ill informed or only later did more information come to light and he made the best decision on the flawed advice that most represented what the non far right people of Britain wanted him to do. He will point to the fact that at every local protest by far right mums was countered by a substantial, local, counter peaceful protest against facism and racism which truly represents the public. (Organized and pay for by him and facilitated using Police resources) Meanwhile, its well documented, the Police are in fact institutionally racist themselves. You couldn’t dream this up, yet here we are living it.

Except all the Biblical scholars agree - there was no Moses. No historical figure. No archeological evidence. The writings don't add up, to the scholars it's evident the writings about Moses and historical references do not support an historical Moses existing. But if you want to use fairytales as evidence. From the Koran- Surah 17, Verse 104, states: "And We said to the Children of Israel after Pharaoh, 'Reside in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We will bring you all together'". This verse, from the chapter Al-Isra (The Night Journey), instructs the Children of Israel to dwell in the land after their escape from Pharaoh, promising their collective gathering in the future, which many commentators interpret as the Day of Judgment. Al Ma Idah And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his people, “O my people! Remember Allah’s favours upon you when He raised prophets from among you, made you sovereign,1 and gave you what He had never given anyone in the world.2 He gave them land. He gave them Israel. Now hear it from Islam itself.

I'd like to know the post she viewed. Was it Palestine Action, a terrorist organisation? Or was it Anti-Government? Or was it Porn or some other graphical content?

Keir Starmer confirms Britain will ignore US and Israeli anger and recognise a Palestinian state 14:14, 21 Sep 2025, updated 15:59, 21 Sep 2025 By DAVID WILCOCK, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR and ANDREW JEHRING, CHIEF FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT eir Starmer today confirmed Britain will ignore fury from the US and Israel to recognise a Palestinian state - despite his deputy admitting the move was little more than empty virtue-signalling. Snip He said: 'Today, to revive the hope of peace and a two-state solution, I state clear as Prime Minister of this great country that the United Kingdom formally recognises the State of Palestine. 'We recognised the State of Israel more than 75 years ago as a homeland for the Jewish people. 'Today we join over 150 countries who recognise a Palestinian state also. A pledge to the Palestinian and Israeli people that there can be a better future.' But Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said it was 'disastrous, adding: 'It leaves hostages languishing in Gaza and does nothing to stop the suffering of innocent people caught in this war. 'It is because Labour cannot fix the big problems in our society that they focus on discredited student union campaigns to appease the hard left.' Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15119503/Keir-Starmer-Britain-Palestinian-state-ignore-US-Israeli-anger-Gaza.html# Most popular comments - Can this man possibly become more stupid? Yes. There's always tomorrow for that. Give him time If he was only just stupid.. but he is following a Marxist plan.. he hates Britain he hates British. He does not believe in borders or the nation state. He doesn’t believe in Britain. When you wake up it’s quite scary what you see. Yes, this is part of his plan to push us back to the EU. He’ll make sure that when we’re so broke and have to go to the IMF or EU to bail us out, part of the loan will be to sign back up to the EU rules and regs but we’ll have to toe the line or else. He's sa tanic Rotsh lds s pent seed impostor of a Prime Minister personal friend of Saville We don’t recognise you as a Prime Minister. Saville also socialised, cooperated with, met frequently etc with Wilson, Callaghan, Foot, Blair and Brown, you can google images of them all. And it was Labour who made him childrens ambassador for the NHS. I think he does… sneaky lying pretentious unqualified PM we have ever encountered. He has an agenda that wants to destroy British people, our history and our proud resilience. How ok earth did he managed to worm his way into being the most hated PM ever. Absolutely disgusting. Keir Starmer is the most tone deaf pm ever. He is incompetent, ignorant and totally indifferent to the wishes of the majority of the people in this country! The last comment sums it up. But is he incompetent or is he following a plan? I don't believe he can be that inept. I don't believe he can genuinely think all the people who marched last week are Right Wing. I don't believe as head of CPR he can be so inept on legal matters. And be unable to successfully argue against EHCR, he's an expert on it. But everytime an immigrant appeals, the Government's legal team is defeated. He was told about Mandelson but appointed him anyway. He's paying protesters and getting the Police to ferry them around to influence public opinion. This is what dictator's do. He cannot be this inept, ignorant or lacking knowledge of EHCR and how to successfully argue to deport illegal immigrants. He is supposed to be for working people yet he's hammering the disabled and elderly while handing out millions to big business. I cannot believe anyone can think concreting over our North Sea gas wells so we can never use it again is a sensible energy policy. I cannot believe a 96% tax rate on our oil companies is a sensible business policy and we've seen its driven energy companies investing in UK to leave the UK He's gonna make students compete for accommodation with immigrants driving up the cost of education. How the f*ck does that help working people and encourage education and hence growth. How can subsidizing the sell off of new homes to offshore corporations help the working class? How can Digital ID stop the boats, and despite being told it can't, he's going to do it anyway. He is following an agenda. And it looks like that agenda is to smash traditional UK, break us economically, ruin our education institutions, take us back into EU and use Digital ID's, facial recognition surveillance, and thought Police patrolling social media to control us while handing away our wealth to offshore multinational corporations. We've seen what the left do, they use violence and intimidation to silence anyone who doesn't agree. He uses political manipulation and smear tactics to silence dissent and shape public opinion. Dangerous times.

PETER HITCHENS: ID cards are great... if you want to spit on liberty and be a serf Here they come again, waving identity cards. The people who wrecked Britain in the first place now want to make it even worse. Having flung our borders wide to anyone who cared to wander in, they want to use this as an excuse to introduce identity cards. Former Labour Home Secretary Alan Johnson, and the incessant Blairite cheerleader and Times columnist David Aaronovitch, are noisily trying to dig up this grisly political corpse. But Mr Aaronovitch spoiled things a bit by admitting that such a move would have to come ‘in tandem with an amnesty’. He is right. Even on its own terms, the scheme is far too late to solve the migration crisis. Millions of new people are already here, many hundreds of thousands quite illegally, and no conceivable British government would ever try to remove them all. It can cope with a few symbolic expulsions, to make itself look tough. But can you imagine what would happen if it attempted a mass round-up of everyone who has ever climbed out of the back of a lorry and vanished into the dusk? I can. It would explode in their faces. The unintended consequence of mass registration will, in reality, be – as Mr Aaronovitch rightly says – an official amnesty for illegal migrants. In which case it will be difficult to object to a future amnesty for the next lot of illegals who arrive, once there are so many of them here that it becomes an issue. , if identity cards don’t actually solve that problem, what do we have left? A threat to your liberty and mine. These Blairites come from a broadly Marxist tradition (which I suspect Mr Aaronovitch understands better than Mr Johnson), so they have nothing much against centralised state power over the individual. Mr Johnson is a nicer man who can be forgiven much because of his beautiful and moving memoir of his childhood, This Boy. But he shouldn’t be let off when he gets things wrong. The other evening, at a celebration of the genius of the great writer and Englishman George Orwell, Mr Johnson told me (in his usual charming way) that he thought he might have persuaded Orwell to endorse our regime of CCTV cameras, surveillance of emails and increased police powers. I do not think so. In his greatest work, Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell warned quite specifically against a nightmare world of hidden cameras and microphones, and arbitrary rule, much of it excused by a supposed external threat from an ever-changing enemy. I reread it often in case I forget this warning. I am confident he would have recognised in present-day Britain the hardening outlines of an oppressive surveillance state in which the individual is powerless. One of the keys to its operation will be identity cards. That is their real point. They were quite useless for any of their claimed purposes when we last had them between 1939 and 1952. I can find no instance of any spy or fifth-columnist having been caught through their use in that period. But hundreds of busybodies and petty tyrants used them to make life difficult for innocent individuals going about their lawful business. One of my favourite stories about this era concerns one British Jew, Myer Rubinstein, who decided not to register. I assume he did so because he very wisely thought that, if a Nazi invasion ever came, registration would mean certain death for him, as the identity registers of so many other European countries had meant death for so many other Jews. He went undetected without such a card, throughout the Second World War and for many years afterwards. As for the supposed use of such cards in ‘establishing your identity’, this spectacularly did not prove to be the case for Charles Jarman, leader of the Seamen’s Union who, in 1945, was ludicrously arrested on suspicion of having led a smash-and-grab raid. Police held him for hours despite his identity card showing ‘who he was’. This sort of thing led, thanks to the fury and persistence of a single High Court judge, to the abolition of these useless, oppressive, breathing licences. Actually, such cards prove nothing, except that the State has issued them. Very few criminal cases or frauds are about the identity of the culprit. Terrorists, we may be sure, will have the very best and most convincing identity cards of all. But if we submit to them, we will all have lost something vital. For centuries, in the English-speaking countries, the State and its officers have had to identify themselves to us, rather than the other way round. This is the right relationship between citizen and government. It is like the presumption of innocence and jury trial, a practical and vital proof that we are free men and women. To accept identity cards would be to turn our whole free constitution upside down, and place the State above our heads rather than under our feet, where it belongs. If we do this, we will take a huge step back towards being serfs. And we will be spitting on the inheritance of liberty our parents handed on to us, and betraying our children and grandchildren. Don’t let these smooth voices fool you. Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5695759/PETER-HITCHENS-ID-cards-great-want-spit-liberty-serf.html An Amnesty for illegal immigrants. Fast track to citizenship allowing all those lovely new immigrants to vote Labour and keep them in power.

MAIL ON SUNDAY COMMENT: Don't destroy our basic freedoms because you can't protect our borders The Starmer Government, having insulted our intelligence for months with its bitter economic policies and its feeble excuses for them, now insults us directly. Through leaks planted thickly across the media, Sir Keir has let it be known that he proposes to introduce digital identity cards. He said a few weeks ago that a new ID card scheme could play an 'important part' in reducing illegal entry to this country. But this weekend he went further, letting it be known through the Westminster whisper network that he hopes to announce the launch of digital ID cards for British citizens in just days, in what he claims to be an attempt to 'crack down' on illegal immigrants. What he is saying is that because he cannot guard our national borders, he is going to destroy our most basic freedoms – the freedom to be left alone by bossy authority and the freedom to be presumed innocent rather than guilty. Because 'smash the gangs' and 'one in, one out' have been the abject flops we all knew they would be, we must suffer for his overconfidence and silly boasting. This is so outrageous that there really ought to be a national minute's silence while we all consider it, followed by two minutes of jeering at its useless absurdity. In this policy turn he is echoing Sir Tony Blair, who tried and failed to impose a similar plan during his own chequered time in office but still goes on about it from the rarefied, Olympian spheres of big money and influence where he now dwells, lifted high above responsibility and the hurly-burly of debate. No grim-jawed official is ever going to ask Sir Tony (or Sir Keir) for his papers, or refuse him a service or a freedom if he cannot produce them. Interestingly, Labour's official line has until recently been to spurn such a policy. When she was Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper bluntly rejected calls from Sir Tony for ID cards, stating they were 'not in the party's election manifesto'. Ms Cooper was quite right. It is distressing to hear suggestions that her successor, Shabana Mahmood, favours the idea. Labour has no mandate for this. Labour MPs have no right or obligation to vote for it, and the House of Lords is free to toss it out. More importantly, it is a stupid project. France has had identity documents since the days of the guillotine, and actual identity cards for a century. But Paris currently estimates that there are up to 700,000 undocumented migrants working in France, in construction, agriculture, hospitality, cleaning and domestic services. It should be added that, when Britain endured ID cards during World War Two, they failed to achieve anything, encouraged petty tyranny by officials, and became fiercely unpopular before being abolished. So much for that. Let us hope the Tories and Reform can join forces to rip up Sir Keir's plan before it gets beyond the planning stage. Nigel Farage and Kemi Badenoch oppose such cards. Lord Ashcroft's latest opinion poll, which The Mail on Sunday publishes today, shows that a joint Tory-Reform party would have a decisive 7 per cent lead over Labour, even if both parties would lose supporters by getting together with each other. So it makes sense for them to work together where they agree, and they would do well to start on this issue. Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15118517/MAIL-SUNDAY-COMMENT-Dont-destroy-basic-freedoms-you-protect-borders.html A muslim home secretary favours the idea. It's so 'anti-British' in values and ethics, but our Muslim home secretary wants it. I bet Sadiq Khan favours the idea too. Anything to destroy our values and fabric of our society. I wonder why. Nothing to do with their religion.