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So now we know why Labour won’t Nationalize any industry. It's Racist. A national company, serving the nation, staffed by nationals owned by nationals, paying taxes and dividends to the nation. It's not inclusive, it's racist. Think of the NHS. A national service, started by white people to cater for white people, paid for by white people. Does any other country have this? No, because it's British white privilege. It's racist. It would be fair if we transfer ownership of NHS to a foreign company to run it with their own people. Look at the white privilege we have, a young girl gets educated by a school, paid for by white people, she can then train as a nurse, then get a job in a privileged job, in a national service, paid for by whites for the use of that white society. Thats racist. We should remove free education or at least teach the same curriculum as is done in the poorest 3rd world country. That way, our children will not have an advantage over 3rd world children. If that child can then get a job in a foreign owned company, that child will have greatly reduced their white privilege. Tongue in cheek, but, Labour is totally on board with globalization which means rejoining the EU and giving our industries to foreign companies.

As member of Bectu I get its publication, it was leaked to the Guardian that the BBC is exploring outsourcing and offshoring some of its operations, Bectu are all over it. They correctly state - Outsourcing and potentially offshoring large numbers of jobs runs totally counter to the growth agenda. I started a thread on the new 'For Profit Social Landlords' offshored in Jersey as is the case of Lloyds division. Curry's the High St retailer is offshoring parts of its operations. The Royal Air Force leases a few of its Jets from a Private Offshore Hedge Fund. We have many companies - Facebook, Amazon and others who are Offshore. The energy sector, Gas and Oil is largely Offshore companies. So to spell it out - The worker will pay for a TV licence and that money will be given to an offshore company. The government will fill Social Housing and give Tax payers money to an Offshore company. Our defence budget will go to Offshore companies. Our High St and services will be provided by Offshore companies. Our Banks will son no doubt be Offshore. Our government infrastructure IT etc is and will be run by Offshore companies. We buy our Cars and goods from foreign companies. We buy our food from foreign companies. We buy our energy from abroad. We rent our military hardware from offshore companies. This is a 1 way street. We create the wealth and then instead of that money circulating in our economy it is given, untaxed to Offshore companies. The Social landlords will control the housing market, dictating the price, they will impose strict rules onto tenants to minimise their insurance costs, they will not maintain the properties and it looks like it will be down to the tenant to maintain the properties - fined when moving if not up to standard. We will work for Offshore companies, Bank with Offshore banks, Rent from Offshore companies, have all our services provided by Offshore companies, our goods and food will come from abroad. None of these companies will pay tax back into our economy. Its a 1 way street where all the cash in our economy is sucked out of the country into Offshore accounts. We are already saddled with huge debt, if there can be no wealth accumulating in our economy, we can never pay it back. Perpetual debt slaves to a government that takes our Taxes and gives it to Offshore companies that the Government has no legal control over. This is Fascism. This is debt slavery. Global debt slavery to unaccountable Offshore entities managed by the governments. That's the British Government with inflation tracked pensions and large salaries and the EU government with bigger salaries and higher Pensions and no doubt we will need a third 'Global' government to tell the EU what to do, who will then tell the British government what to do. We will have huge government bureaucracy, unaccountable faceless politicians who our politicians will say 'its not us its the EU' when we ask the 'EU' we will be told 'no its not us its the Global government' and when an individual tries to address a 'Global Government' about a personal or small issue, it will be considered inconsequential to a 'Global Government' so in effect, absolutely no redress what so ever. Companies, who operate within our country are allowed to be 'Offshore' Workers are not. We must contribute to the society we live in, but our employers do not. Companies have legal human rights, but no officer of that company can be held accountable for a crime committed by the company. Neither can the Shareholders, that's already our law, but on a Global scale? Under what legal system would we prosecute an Offshore company that commits a crime in our country? International Law? It has no force, will it under a Global government, of course not, they will resist for centuries any change to International Law because it means as it stands, they can largely act with impunity. They won't change that and put responsibilities on their shoulders. They are above that, above criticism or justice like for the commoners. Big crimes can be waived away, meanwhile an anti government post will be Policed and acted upon with great efficiency. Burglaries and street crime won't - don't have time for that. Labour, the workers party, who under Starmer said they are the Business and workers' party, are doing nothing to address this transfer of wealth from the UK to the Global stage. They are actively supporting it by offering money to corporations to buy houses its people can't afford and rent them back to them while taking the profits out of the country. When he announced the ID system the sign behind him said 'Global Progress' not National. As a Nation, we are broke economically, but government wants to give itself a pay rise, give more wealth away and seek to control the workers lives down to the nitty gritty with an expensive ID scheme, take us back into EU with associated costs. In other words, increase government and spending at a time when we can't afford it. Increase humanitarian aid at a time when we can't afford it. Encourage businesses to go offshore because its too expensive to operate in the UK. In the name of 'Decency' apparently. Nationalism is a dirty word now. National Broadcaster - Racist. Offshore it to foreign nationals. National Health Service - Racist, who else has the privilege of a National Health Service. National School and Curriculum - Racist. How many 3rd world countries enjoy free education? National Express - Racist. It just is cos it has 'National' in the name. So why isn't the Royal Family racist? All that history of colonialism and imperialism, how can a person of ethnicity bear to live in a country that keeps its 'Royal Family' with its history of imperialism and all the crimes that went with it with all the displays of historical imperialism like the 'Trooping The Colour' or 'Changing of the Guards' or 'Opening of Parliament' ceremony? The Coronation etc? We saw in the News how that awful lady racially abused a British person at the Palace by asking where she came from. This government ha been caught out socially engineering the news by shipping in paid protestors via the Police to present a false narrative to the media who duly report it. This government has accused anyone who doesn't agree with it as racist, they've used the Hitler smear and labelled large numbers of its citizens racist. They have changed the justice courts into a two tier system which is harsher against its indigenous people. Things are going downhill fast, there will be a crash and I do believe a better world will rise from the ashes. If not, its Prison Planet for a few centuries under corporate rule.

Nail on the head there. They retain the power, but we're told it's ceremonial only. The Magna Carta is mostly repealed. The point of the Magna Carta was to remove Royalty and Church from the rein's of power. Yet the Royal Family and the Church still have huge influence on our politics. So it's a sham really. If the Royal Family are only ceremonial, why do they get the funding and influence in our and commonwealth, even world affairs. Same with the Church. Why should they still impose religious based laws on society that largely rejected their rule. Why do they sit on the UN. It's because the old rulers never left.

So basically they've recognized they've messed up the planet and are putting guidance in place in an attempt to control themselves better in space.

The King unveils the Astra Carta seal at a Space Sustainability Reception at Buckingham Palace Published 28 June 2023 His Majesty The King has welcomed astronauts, business leaders, environmentalists and scientists at a Space Sustainability Event at Buckingham Palace. To mark the launch of the Sustainable Markets Initiative’s Astra Carta framework, The King has unveiled the Astra Carta seal, designed by Sir Jony Ive, in front of astronauts, business leaders, environmentalists and scientists during a Space Sustainability Event at Buckingham Palace. Link - https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2023-06-28/the-king-unveils-the-astra-carta-seal-at-a-space-sustainability While unveiling this seal he said we need this 'because we've rather messed up our planet' I just want to make the distinction, because it's not clear,when he said 'we've messed up our planet' He's using the Royal 'we' It's an English language thing. He means that He, and the Royal Family, his Government, Business Leaders, Big Business and Scientists who have messed up the planet. Thats what 'Royal We've means. It's not the typical Public 'We' As in all of us. It's the 'Royal We' which designates a select few, rather than the wider 'we' It was the military that blasted nuclear waste into our oceans and atmospheres. It was Big Business like ICI that dumped toxic waste into our sea, it's the Water Corporations that dump sewage and waste into our rivers. It's the car companies that built polluting cars, it's the government's that outlawed by taxing alternative less polluting fuels. The list goes on. The scientists have stayed silent and compliant to Big Business. So when he uses 'we' he's talking about the business leaders and scientists present in the room. He's not including the normal people in the room or us the Public. I thought that was worth pointing out. The Royal 'We' is an English idiom.

I'm hopeful. I think there is an awakening happening. Hopefully we'll ascend. I'm almost certain we will. Lots of talk in Spiritualist churches about this a few years ago, we're moving into 5D, they say.

Duality. Divide and rule. It works so well because - This. Because again, it us and them. Polarised or dualistic mindset. It must be this or that. One or the other, either or. If your not with us your against us. If you've got nothing to hide you won't disagree. If you don't agree your racist. It's always polarizing or dualistic choices presented. To see a government descend to these tactics, a government who engineers social opinion with fake protests while slandering everyone as racist is such a fall for what was once a promising society. If they are prepared to socially engineer public opinion using the Police force and paid protesters, Police social media for dissent and not our streets, cover up the yrue state of crime and preside over a Police force tgat will not telease details of gang rapists becsuse it may csuse outrage (gang rape in Oxfordshire the other day - they will only release details of the white person involved, none of the others) this is not a government that can be trusted, let alone trusted with a Digital ID, sold to us on a lie that it will stop boats or illegal working. To me, they've shown their face. They are rabid lefties, corrupt, self serving politicians who are way out of their depth if the best policies they have is to smear all opponents as racist, hint at Hitler associations and have to resort to engineering fake protests, they are dangerous. They are Fabians.

It used to be said on the internet when a discussion descends into accusations of Racism or playing the Hitler card, the person has lost the argument. If you don't have facts and resort to insults, you've lost. To hear our leaders making baseless accusations of Racism, when no clear unequivocal evidence exists, I say they are not fit to be in power. For Starmer to spend his career fighting for immigrants and opposing any schemes to fix the problem, and now he says it was everyone else who caused the problem - means he is the Snake Oil salesman. To accuse people who don't agree with him as racist and to see ethnic minority members use the Racist card, it's beyond gutter politics. None of these people are fit to hold office. Starmer did we're at a fork and we can choose 'decency' So he is saying, we are NOT decent. We bailed out the banks, we followed Covid restrictions, we've allowed 10's of thousands of immigrants to come in. But we're not decent. It's gonna take a government who falsely accuses everyone who doesn't agree with them of racism and a government who fiddles their taxes and accepts freebies, to show us how to be decent? Even Starmer has called for Rayner to come back. Farage, where no evidence exists is labeled racist. Rayner, caught avoiding tax, should be allowed back into government. The immigration problem is all our own fault for voting for Brexit. But that doesn't mean Labour will stop them, no, Labour will continue to allow large numbers in and blame us for it while ignoring his role in it and the EHCR laws that he rigorously enforces and upholds. We can't deport them if they don't like Chicken Nuggets. Starmer is fine with that, it's our fault in the first place and if you don't agree - your racist. Meanwhile, they need tax avoiders and MP's who make false claims of racism to govern us and teach us decency. Jesus H Christ.

The day Labour dragged politics into the gutter: Desperate Starmer accuses Farage of not liking Britain... triggering bitter war of words Keir Starmer has been accused of 'descending into the gutter' after claiming Nigel Farage was an 'enemy' of Britain. The Prime Minister triggered a bitter war of words when he used his speech at the Labour Party conference to repeatedly attack the Reform UK leader, questioning his patriotism just days after branding his immigration policies 'racist'. Snip Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy made a poisonous claim that Mr Farage had 'flirted with the Hitler Youth', which he was forced to withdraw. Snip Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said it was 'hard to escape the conclusion' that Mr Farage himself is a racist while Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood claimed Mr Farage was 'worse than racist'. Mr Lammy was, however, the most extreme, claiming that the Reform leader had 'flirted' with the Hitler Youth, dragging up accusations first made more than a decade ago that Mr Farage has described as 'complete baloney'. In a humiliating climbdown, the Deputy Prime Minister last night admitted he had no evidence for the claim and withdrew it. Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15150251/The-day-Labour-dragged-politics-gutter-Desperate-Starmer-accuses-Farage-not-liking-Britain-triggering-bitter-war-words.html

Keir Starmer blames BREXIT for Channel crisis and calls dinghies carrying migrants 'Farage boats' Keir Starmer has another front in his war on Reform by blaming Brexit for the Channel crisis - saying the UK is being assailed by 'Farage boats'. The PM made the claim about the impact of cutting ties with the EU as he scrambles to claw back Nigel Farage's huge poll lead. But he also went into retreat after brutal barbs in his Labour conference speech, stressing the Reform leader is not a racist. The PM described Mr Farage as 'formidable' as he denied that the swipes put safety at risk. Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15151135/Keir-Starmer-forced-retreat-says-formidable-Nigel-Farage-NOT-racist-denying-speech-claiming-Reform-leader-doesnt-like-Britain-safety-risk.html

Gold-plated pensions for councillors despite record tax rises Minister tells 16,000 elected officials ‘you deserve it’ as he reinstates taxpayer-funded retirement income Tony Diver Associate Political Editor 29 September 2025 9:05pm BST Councillors are to be handed gold-plated pensions despite record increases in council tax. More than 16,000 elected officials will be given taxpayer-funded retirement income under the plans announced by Steve Reed, the Communities Secretary, who added: “You deserve it.” The pension perks were unveiled despite a surge in council tax, which is projected to rise by £9.4bn across England in the next four years, and the risk of bankruptcy in several local authorities. A further tax raid is widely expected in Rachel Reeves’s November Budget as the Chancellor battles to fill a black hole in the public finances of up to £30bn. On Monday, Ms Reeves warned that “the world has changed” since she previously pledged not to impose more large tax rises. Councillors are paid an allowance, but are considered voluntary workers and are barred from accessing the local government pension scheme (LGPS) after a 2014 decision by the Conservatives during austerity. around £7,000 a year, according to the Local Government Association. Some can earn as much as £16,000, depending on the council. Councillors were removed from the pension scheme again under an austerity measure by Sir Brandon Lewis, the former local government secretary. At the time, he said removing councillors’ pension entitlement would save the taxpayer around £7m a year, or almost £10m in current prices. Labour has more councillors in England and Wales than any other party, and accounts for a third of the total number of seats. However, councils are also under significant political pressure after a string of effective bankruptcies in six areas and strikes that have stopped bin collections in Birmingham since March. On Sunday, The Telegraph revealed that British people are expected to pay an extra £9.4bn in council tax in England by 2029. A Freedom of Information request revealed that the Government is expecting all councils to increase council tax bills by five per cent each year of this Parliament – the maximum amount allowed by law. Telegraph So even though the economy is in tatters, they've virtually bankrupted us, they reward themselves and push up our costs even higher. This was not the time to do it. It just shows, these people are out of control, the disconnect with reality, I can only think they are intentionally destroying our economy and hence our society. We'll be ruined, debt slaves, but our incompetent rulers will be paid handsomely.

Alice Weidel, chair of Germany’s Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, gave a bold speech at CPAC Hungary 2025, claiming that the media and political elites “fear us like no other party — with good reason.” Speaking before Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and other conservative leaders, Weidel warned of rising censorship, opposition surveillance, and democratic backsliding in Germany.

This, but i haven't got round to reading it yet.

Saw a clip of a speech at UN. The woman said we (the UN) did nothing about the Rwanda genocide, she said no more excuses, the UN must do something about the Gaza genocide. Well she could have added the UN did nothing in Syria, Congo, Yemen. They just made excuses to do nothing. The UN has just admitted they made excuses about other genocides and did nothing. But they expect to keep their jobs? They expect the UN to be respected? They want another chance to do the job they should have been doing all this time? How is it, Public figures can make mistake after mistake, destroying lives, countries and economies and then just admit they made a mistake and expect to be allowed to continue in their roles. Starmer is happy to announce his involvement in the long term struggle to bring justice to Hillsborough. We have the Hillsborough Law. Any official caught deceiving the public will face up to 2 years in prison. Obviously only serve half, time taken off for good behavior etc. Out in 6 months. There is nothing in UK law that says an MP whose been to prison can't stand as an MP again. So, the fearless Starmer bragging about justice when a tweet will get you 1 year, but an official, lying, deceiving for decades, gaslighting the public, causing untold harm including suicides, causing wrongful imprisonment, they get 2 years. Out in 1 and back into public life with a good salary. Justice, Starmer Style.

F*ck it I couldn't resist.

I got 2 for £20 so, pronouns and all that. Starmer said Farage's plan was racist this morning on telly. 2nd one is gender neutral.

Lot of people talking about 'selective outrage' Where waa your outrage for Syrian civilians? Yemeni? Congo? Millions dead. Where was the outrage and accusations of Genocide in those cases? Silence.

Well, this section of the Forum has died a death. Last post, me on this thread a year ago. RIP FMOTL. Or Common Law

Keir Starmer has spent his career as Human Rights lawyer, he has pioneered preventing immigrants return because they don't like chicken nuggets in their own country. He spent his entire time in opposition blocking every attempt to deport immigrants, every scheme designed to control the problem and he has the gall to blame the last government for the increase in immigrants. Now, despite all the advice to the contrary, he wants to roll out Digital ID adding further costs to an already broken economy. This is ideology over common sense. Ideology over the will of the public. They should have stopped spending, stopped borrowing, deported immigrants to relieve housing, schools, NHS and benefits burden. Instead they increase spending, target pensioners and disabled in order to introduce their EU, Digital ID and currency ideology. If he had spent this Parliament stabilizing the economy and then in 4 years stated he wants national ID and to rejoin EU, it would have been different. Instead, he's hammering benefits, giving money to 'for profit social landlords' encouraging corporations to play a role in providing public services, blocking attempts to solve immigration, labeling citizens as far right, paying protesters and Police to stage public events in favour of his policies while speaking in a mealy mouth fashion that is so indifferent or on the fence that nobody knows what he truly stands for. He is a Fabian, hard-core socialist who hates capitalism and democracy. It is entirely conceivable and in keeping with Fabian strategy, to bit by bit, making bad decisions, that damage our system until it's broken. Gordon Briwn removing tax relief on pension schemes, everyone told him don't do it, but he thought he knew best, he killed our final salary pensions and wrecked pensions in general. Making us all poorer, totally in contradiction to what Labour stand for. Did he change it back? Did politicians and civil servants lose final salary and gold plated pensions? No. So Gordon Brown, Labour, the workers party, destroyed a part of our economy, by 'mistake' and it's impossible to 'undo' that mistake. Rachel Reeves discovered a £20Bn black hole, but oops, now it's £50Bn. Keir Starmer has developed the EHCR guidance to prevent the return of immigrants, blocked every scheme to solve the problem and now tells us, despite all his experience in human rights the best solution is to continue on course but issue national ID to help, in a small way, prevent immigrants working illegally. We just got to keep paying their benefits. Can they really be this incompetent? The answer is no. We are seeing the rise of their ideology, perhaps the final push to break our society completely, saddle us up with so much debt we'll never pay it off, transfer assets and services to the private, offshore sector who will suck the economy dry ensuring we will be perpetual debt slaves, and finally so closely aligning with EU that eventually we'll be back in it against our legal democratic referendum, ruled by multilayer bureaucracy with gold plated pensions and huge salaries. They will kill small businesses and wealth creators like farming, independent shops etc with regulations, taxes and business costs. Only offshore corporations will be able to compete. Curry's, the high st electrical shop, has offshored part of its business to survive in this economy. We will have corporate offshore landlords, banks, shops and our public services, including defence, will be run by private offshore shareholder backed investment companies. This is as far away from Labour 'for the worker' party ideology you can get. Nationalize services, strong unions, fair pay, low rents, great public services, strong safety net in welfare systems and good education. Labour, so far, and under Blair, is doing everything it can to saddle us with debt, regulations and taxes, forcing us to be multicultural but not our culture, while while encouraging Globalism and multinational corporate rule. When the party for the worker tell the workers they will not work unless they comply to their system because of a problem they themselves caused and will force it upon us without referendum or mandate which benefits no one but government control. Its Facism.

Don't know if it's true or not, seen this allegation a few times. Nothing on their website about it, supposedly Multiverse donated £250M to government towards the consultation. This is Facism. Multinational corporations controlling our ID, our food, our energy and now our homes. The government is willingly diverting public money to offshore companies who pay little tax. Multinational corporations in business with government, the government utilizing or reliant on corporations to roll out services Anyone can see this will destroy a countries wealth if most of the money within the economy is taken out into offshore accounts. Keir Starmer has spent his career as a Human Rights lawyer, yet here he is introducing an ID system that every other human rights and freedom advocates day is against human rights and freedoms. Here is Starmer overseeing wealth redistribution to offshore corporations, taking money and wealth away from us. It struck me that EU has ID cards, so I suspect this move is partly to further align us with EU policies. If he can re-align us with EU in all but name, it'll be a small step to rejoin the EU Starmer says he for the worker but he pushing globalization and heavy reliance on offshore corporations. He is setting up a system where most of our lives will be managed or controlled by unaccountable corporations. This, in its simplest terms, is facism.