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Ok, I'll try. This suggests Carrots are sentient, they feel and have thoughts. This is demonstrably untrue, hence your assertion makes no sense. Carrots, vegetables, and other fruits have all been put here to be eaten, to sustain life. Hence again, your statement makes no sense. 'The lord God commanded the man saying of every tree of the garden you are free to eat'. It is ordained by God that we eat vegetables and fruit. Hence again, from a spiritual viewpoint your statement makes no sense. By implying I cannot keep up mentally with your argument is yet another troll tactic. Sorry, but I don't follow you, what do you mean by -

You implied it is wrong to eat carrots. However this goes against nature as many plants want to be eaten to spread their seeds. Its nature. Indulge me, what do you mean by 'Carrots do not want to be eaten'? How do you know carrots don't want to be eaten - didn't god create them for us to eat? Claiming I don't understand what your saying and implying I'm stupid is another troll tactic.

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'For every tree of the garden thou are free to eat' claiming eating carrots is wrong is ridiculous. Christ said 'resist not evil' i don't see how you can twist that saying into anything else than what it is. Thanks for the 'not using your brain' insult. Apparently, thats a troll response and not very Christian.

You appear to be in line with the Church of Satan. If I remember correctly you think 'might is right' well that philosophy is in line with the Church of Satan.

Yes I agree with your post. I highlighted the above because its the truth. If you know heaven awaits us the death means nothing. So in my example, if someone attacked my family the correct course of action is to do nothing, allow it to happen and find your reward in heaven. Yes it does make us seem week but resorting to violence is just more evil, evil cannot defeat evil. But actually doing it? Thats hard. But the Tibetans showed us the way with their peaceful uprising in 1959 against Chinese agression. I hope that World opinion turns against China to such an extent that they will be compelled to hand Tibet back to the Tibetans and leave. If that happends it will demonstrate 'resist not evil' works.

Jesus said 'Resist not evil' following that thought then yes if someone comes to torch your house, you let them. If your a nation and an evil nation invades, you let them. Nations shouldn't have standing armies and national military service, as this makes murderers of innocent men. Resist not evil means what it says - no fighting back. So I disagree that all the major religions tell you not to fight back, Christ's teaching on resist not evil means exactly that - no fighting back. Now, whether we're prepared to do that is another matter. If someone broke into my house intending me and my family harm, I would fight back, but its not the spiritual way.

Ok, I won't argue. If your interested and for anyone else reading. There's a book called 'The First Coming' by Thomas Sheehan that explores the historical Jesus. It strips away the supernatural myths of Christianity, including the second coming and argues that Jesus established the Kingdom of Heaven on earth and we're living in it now and have been for the last 2000 years. All we have to do is accept Jesus's teachings and live by them, then we would have 'Heaven on Earth' It seems as far as Christianity and Judaism is concerned all we need to take from it is 'Treat others how you wish to be treated' the rest, according to some Rabbi, is just window dressing.

Yeah I know what your saying about the names. I'm not sure I agree with the 90% figure but still the fact remains if they serve Satan they are Satanists however the identify in the day. Good video, seen it before, probably when you first posted it. Scary stuff but at least they get a supernatural experience when they go to church! Shows their 'magic' is working. Maybe they could re-introduce cannabis into their incense burners like they used do to attain a spiritual connection to God. Would make church more interesting, I'd even go myself if there was a genuine spiritual experience to be had.

Ok, thats what I thought you were saying. Your using word gymnastics to justify your position. Both those verses clearly state 'they did not crucify him' which is perfectly clear in its message - Jesus was not the one put up on the cross. All the Muslims I have spoken with about this are clear, Jesus was not put on the cross, rather someone who looked like him went up. The man that was nailed to the cross died. Some have speculated that man my have been Judas because Judas looked like Jesus. According to the Bible - Jesus died for our sins, he died on the cross to wash away our sin. The message is not the same if he didn't die. If he didn't die there could not have been a miraculous resurrection. . If he didn't die on the cross then not only are you going down the 'Holy Blood Holy Grail' line of thought that it was a staged event, which is in keeping with the Islamic view (nothing wrong with that), but also you appear to be denying what Christians believe - that he died on the cross for our sins. This belief is central to Christianity. I think both those quotes are clear, according to the Muslim's, Jesus was not nailed to the cross and he did not die on the cross.

Jesus or should we say 'Jes' is not coming back. He did his bit.

Yes the NWO one goverment is a Satanic plan. Thats why I give no credence to the theory 'the Jews did it' Yes I'm sure there are Jewish players and yes they self identify as Jews but they follow Satan, hence they are Satanic. I'm certain there are other players from other religions and they are Satanic to. For a plan to be propogated globally, throughout the ages, infecting all our systems, religion, schools, governments etc it must be Satanic. One world government with Satan as the ruler - its undoubtably Satanic.

I'm not sure I follow what your trying to say in that post. I think I do, but I don't want to put words in your mouth so I'll ask, what are you trying to say? Is it that because he didn't die he wasn't technically crucified?

Yes the video I linked said Jesus went to India and learnt Buddhism. Then there's the tomb in Kashmir said to be Jesus, but there's a problem with that. The tomb depicts a man with crucifixion wounds and the Muslims claim it is the tomb of Jesus. However in the Koran it says Jesus was not crucified and instead a 'likeness' was put up instead of him. Therefore if Jesus did not go up on the cross then he would not have crucifixion wounds, hence either the Koran is wrong or the man buried in Kashmir said to be Jesus is not. They can't have it both ways, there are questions that need answering.

What about Freemasonary? Would you recommend members join up to Freemasonary for spiritual guidance? Doesn't that have roots in ancient egyptian knowledge like christianity and is ok to join now according to Catholic church?

Jesus's name means 'The One God of Fire The Anointed One' Jesus Christ is a bastardization of English and Latin, Jesus's full name should be Jesus Christus, the 'us' being Latin designation. To change into English or Anglicize it you drop the 'us' hence Jes Christ. But in Greek and Hebrew there was no 'J' that is an English invention hence Jes's real name was actually written 'Ies' The I is the symbol for the one god or great god and the 'es' stands for fire in the Phoenician root, hence Jesus's name means One God of Fire - to the Pagans, thats the Sun. I put it in my post, the Buddhists claim, and I guess have records of, Jesus visiting them during his lost years and staying and studying Buddhism, then he took the teachings back with him. Go to 27 mins in the video to hear the claim or watch from about 24 mins for the whole segment on the similarities between Buddhism and Christianity. Yes its a consolidation of up to perhaps 80 different Pagan religions or to put it another way and quoting someone I recently read - its a consolidation of many thinking systems that have been consolidated within it. You really need to know your history, languages and occult knowledge along with a broad knowledge of ancient religions to understand the Old Testament but the New Testament washed all that away and boiled the teachings down to a few, Love God, Love thy Neighbor (Treat others as you wished to be treated) Resist not evil and take a day off once a week all dressed up in Sun symbology and with allegory and parables to teach higher knowledge thrown in. You really need a guide to understand it and I don't believe your local church priest or vicar has any of the occult/hidden/higher knowledge in the Bible. And no I haven't found a guide. Just piecing stuff together from books and debates and discussions etc but I find it fascinating. The the way I see it the Bible is like a tapestry with a main picture and then other pictures incorporated into it to give a whole picture.

I agree with the title, Christianity does indeed seem to in part be taken from earlier Egyptian religions, as well as others. Yes what of his birth, where did those three wise men come from and who and what were they? Jesus was born in the middle east and the bible says the 3 wise men came from the east, well whats east of the middle east? The far east. Were the 3 wise men Buddhists? If not Buddhists what were they? Magicians of some sort? Regarding his lost years, the Buddhists have it that he was with them. Here's a documentary The Hidden Story of Jesus by Robert Beckford, in it the Buddhists claim Jesus was with them in his 'lost' years and studied Buddhism, then he took the teachings back with him. They called him 'Esa' (not sure of spelling maybe Isa) (Go to about 24/25 mins into the video) Well, some mystery school teachings have it that Christians are the lowest level initiate, while Jews are the next level and Hebrews are the highest initiate. So, dunno, maybe Christianity is not the highest level you think it to be. Also, it would seem Christianity or at least Jesus's or rather, the man we call Jesus's teaching, Jesus the Christ or the Christ Jesus depending on whether your talking from a spiritualist viewpoint or a Masonic one, his teachings seem to be heavily influenced by Eastern traditions, so again, saying Christianity is higher than Eastern traditions may be a stretch as Christianity has borrowed from Eastern traditions and others. I agree though it is based on Ancient knowledge - fascinating isn't it?

Good question, perhaps the OP would recommend I go with the Mormons or the Fundamentalists and learn my spiritual truths from them, how the world is only a few thousand years old and God hates fags.

Never tried it! Suppose I'll have to now when its in season. Poncy veggy food that it is.

Lol, asparagus. Well I guess if you've got the gift then anything can be the medium. So there's some non specific predictions - a celebrity will retire and foitballers will do something. Although the Trump prediction will be interesting but to be honest that could also just be a guess. I would also bet the the Democrats will go after Trump again. I highlghted the above 2 because I just posted on the forum that the BBC license fee should be reduced, thats also on the cards and a good bet no psychic ability required. And I live in the Vale of Evesham.

My dad had the same thing. He was a Sub Post Office worker and he said it interfered with serving customers all day so he had to shut it down. The only things he told me from it was this - Jesus is never coming back There is a golden thread of truth in all religions. I'd like to go to a spiritual church myself one day, but then I also want to go to a Quaker meeting too!