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See I like most of your posts Truthspoon, much I agree with here. I want to go to my local Quakers group, have been meaning to go for years, their philosophy greatly interests me. Also we got a Spiritualist church in the area and I would like to go and see them. My dad was a spiritualist so it holds a lot of interest to me. Not long read Tolstoy on the reccomendation of another member and Tolstoy notes the Quackers have the correct interpretation of 'resist not evil' I especially agree with your last comment that Christianity is dressed up Pagan Sun worship. I don't mind it either, its fascinating and illustrates how higher knowledge is encoded into the Bible, that imeadiately makes it more interesting. Shame they can't be honest about it but I suspect most in the church don't know themselves. Yet there are signs everywhere - I find it funny that my local vicars house is called 'Sunrise Cottage' lol

I'd be interested to hear more, perhaps start a thread on it. I've read a few bits about Islam. The stories of Mohammed (pbuh) meeting an entity in a cave to be dictated the Koran and that entity trying to kill him and also that it was given to them from the Knights Templars. I've no doubt that Islam stems from the same black magicians that gave us Christianity and Judaism.

Surpressed Technology / Free Energy / Alternative Energy / Advanced Technology Sub Forum please. Name it like the old forum was or anything but AI agenda doesn't seem like the right place for that stuff.

Yes agreed. The resurrection was added later. I think I'm correct in saying the resurrection doesn't appear in the Greek bible. Sure I've seen that somewhere. And yes it certainly seems like the religion was designed to subdue people. Gets a bit into the Jewish conspiracy theory that Christianity was designed by the Jews to defeat the Romans who obviously was a greater milatary force. I'm not sure about that although Jesus or the man we call Jesus was supposedly a Jewish Rabbi so that kind of makes it true.

Glad we're back. Took a bit of time but the forum got there in the end. Anyone else notice the forum front page was put up on 'alexa.melall.com' bit weird, I thought it was the new address, no links worked, just the front page was being hosted.

Lucky sod - still illegal over here in UK although I've heard you can grow 2 plants without the Police bothering you but my landlord wouldn't agree and we have regular inspections so can't really do it on the sly. Come on UK, follow USA and the other countries that have legalised - legalise now - it costs a small fortune otherwise.

Is it to obvious to say - can't they just ressurect the old forum? We go back to using that. Transfer the threads this one has left, chalk it up to experience and re-open what was the legendary old forum. Wipe the banned members list so anyone that was banned can come back across and hope some of the old members who didn't follow across to this site come back to the old one. Seems a logical step if selecting and setting up a new one is proving to be so difficult.

The Seed That Fell On Ground Read it. Interesting book. He mentions the Khazars at the beginning then goes on to describe them as Luciferians. This is correct in my opinion or rather closer to the truth than the Khazars. I accept the New Age movement is probably based on Luciferianism but then there's that whole discussion about whether Lucifer and Satan are one and the same. Still I'm glad he referred to them as Luciferian and not Jewish all the time. Also he drew widely from known conspiracy books and covered quite a bit of ground in a short book so it was interesting. I don't agree with the Khazar theory, for me, those pushing the NWO are still, primarily, Satanic and I think the conspiracy goes at least back to Phoenician times, way before the Jews or Khazars came along. Also, the conspiracy has been hugely influenced by other players, Royalty, Church, Politicians of all denominations, globally have been involved so again, its not just the Khazars. My theory is this, Judaism, Christianity and Freemasonary all came out of the Babylonian Mystery schools so you've got to ask the question, who wrote them? The authors are the real propagators of the conspiracy, the Jews, the Christians and the Freemasons are just useful idiots to the magicians that devised these religions and mystery teachings. What power and knowledge do these magicians have and what entities are they in contact with? The magicians who wrote these spells are drawing on knowledge from before Babylon, probably before Egypt too. Hence the conspiracy goes back further than Babylon and the Jews and certainly much further back than the Khazars. Are the Khazars part of the plot? Maybe, I can't answer that, maybe they were converted and bought into the plot centuries ago. Reading up on Sabbatean Frankism it seems it was started in the 16th Century, the conspiracy has been going on centuries before that! They used the All Seeing Eye symbol, again they didn't invent that its years old. Anyway, I did enjoy reading it so thanks for posting. I have two questions - Do you agree with the author that David Icke is steering followers down a New Age rabbit hole as asserted in the book? What do you think of the author using Wikipedia as his sources a couple of times? I'm ok with it, I donate to that site, I think it has potential to be a great resource and is a great endeavor, but members here decry the use of Wiki. Whats your stance on Wiki?

Yes, the Jews who are not Jews but the synagogue of satan, hence those at the top, although outwardly may identify as Jews are in fact satanists, first and foremost. I've heard David Icke talk about the Sabbateans, I don't know much about it, perhaps he's hit the target but it appears to me there are many more involved in the plot and they're not all Khazarian descent. Just look at Albert Pike and the Freemasons. According to Pike they intend to forment a war between Israel (the Jews) and Islam to bring about their mutual destruction. If thats the plan why would the Jews join in to their own destruction? Doesn't make sense. Again I think those that set this up also set up Judaism and Christianity and other Mystery Cults, they are Satanists but I think of them as dark magicians - Khazarian Sabateans? Not sure as they don't seem to go far back enough, they only converted to Judaism in the 8th century yet the creators of the Bsbylonian Mystery Cults were in existence hundreds of years before. So again I don't think the dark magicians who control this conspiracy are soley of Khazarian descent - it doesn't seem to fit the timeline. The Babylonian Mystery Cults draw their inspiration from the Egyptian Mystery Cults which existed thousands of years before. Again, where were the Khazarians at the time of Egypt? Barely in existence I guess. Just my opinion.

Yes and Yeshua translates to 'Joshua' in English so its still un clear where the name Jesus came from. Although I have the explanation that 'Jesus' translates to 'Great God of Fire' I agree Jesus didn't see women as second class and I'm heartened to hear he didn't discriminate against sexual orientation - we are all children of God. I can't understand how, if God created everything and everything God does is perfect then why would he/she create homosexuals only to despise them? It could be explained that homosexuality is not the preferred state for humans but then homosexuals would be on a different path to the rest of us and who are we to judge their spiritual journey that God has set them on.

Yes it seems to, the symbol for Baal is the bull. All mystery cults seem to be traced to Baal worship including Christianity and Freemasonary and even Judaism had Baal as a God.

I am reading - the Seed That Fell On Good Ground. Chapter 5 so far. Its interesting.

Oh wow! I read it in the 90's - it became like my Bible, this and Behold A Pale Horse which I also found in the 90's. I bought a few copies of Cosmic Conspiracy and lent them out. Never got them back though! Lol. Still at least the info got out. He's still going - Stan Deyo, his scientific mind us excellent. I've also got a copy of the TV broadcast he was involved in back in the 70's in Australia. Its rare but it is out there to download.

I do NOT believe there is a Jewish conspiracy. Twist those words and I'll report you as a troll.

I've not read the Trigger so thanks for that. I'm nit perpetuating the Jewish conspiracy. Have you read this thread? You will see I'm speaking against there being a Jewish conspiracy and Nobby Noboddy is saying there is. If the Jews are involved they are just pawns in the game.

Yes? It seems obvious from the last few posts that Nobby Noboddy believes there to be a Jewish Conspiracy. I'm wondering if RideForever believes in it too because he 'Liked' Nobby's post. Hence he appears to be in agreement with him that a Jewish conspiracy exists.

@rideforever - do you believe in the Protocols Of The Elders and the Jewish Conspiracy to?

Ok cheers. I'm dubious about the protocols. Even Douglas Reed who was accused of being Anti- Semetic doubted their authenticity in 'The Controversy of Zion' He wrote a very interesting series of books at the time of WW2 and was a Times reporter if I remember correctly. He was definitely a newspaper or journal reporter at the time of WW2. Most historians doubt their authenticity and so did William Cooper I think. It is uncanny how the predictions seem to be coming true, however its notable that many Christians are working toward and hoping for the end times. I think any Jews involved in the NWO are actually, primarily, Satanic and those that are not in the know are useful idiots un aware of their role in the grand plan. Religous zealots like some Christians, brainwashed by TPTB.

Thank you. No worries and thanks for posting something. I read it but there's no mention of sexual urges? What did you mean that the Khazars are resonsible for the sexual urge being distorted?

So I've got to read a book now. This place is an Internet Forum it purpose is to present and discuss idea's. Why are some members so reluctant to do that? I presented an article about a book that has been published and I'm personally attacked. Talk about 'Shoot the messenger' Then when asked to explain a comment I'm sent round the houses to websites and publications to read. People are quick to judge and condem but reluctant to actually discuss.

Well I tried on my phone but it says 'This site can't provide a secure connection' or something. Doesn't work very well, not sure I want to browse on my PC. Can't you just summarise?

Can you expand on this?

Yes I think the Gnostics believed that to.

Ok. But so I'm clear - your not refuting any of the statements? Either you can't or you won't?

Having difficulty posting from PC. Tried making the post with a dot and then editing it but it says to long has passed since the comment was made even though it was only seconds. Anyway, this is my response to Rideforever Well as long as we're doing psychoanalysis, you come across as an angry, hate filled, judgmental person. Who by your own admission you can not live with your fellow man. As you claim to have trained spiritually hard I can only draw two conclusions. Either you are right, and you are at a stage where you should take yourself off into the wilderness for quiet meditations and turn your back on the corrupt world. Or you are wrong, maybe you took a bad path, had a bad teachers, misinterpreted the lessons. Don't know which so I'll leave it there. Now to my claims that you take issue with - First, Jesus - was this his real name? Surely you've heard the word Yeshua. Lets start there. Secondly, Jesus wasn't born on the 25th December - Do you believe Jesus was born on the 25th December? You do know about the sun dipping below the horizon for 3 days around the 25th and all the other gods born on the 25th etc etc? The below article is from a Christian website, even they know he wasn't born on the 25th! Which version of Christianity did you study? Catholicism? Thirdly, Gay weddings - do you dispute the church has carried out Gay weddings in the past? I can only quote from the research carried out by, in thisd instance a Yale professor. Can you prove him wrong for me? So can you disprove any of these statements? I would particularly be interested in the last one as its recent research so if you have evidence contrary I would certainly be interested to hear it.