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Taken from an article in Nexus back in 1998. Sorry, its only part 1 and I haven't got part 2 but its interesting reading from someone with access to private records and sources.

Your a Christian on an Anti Religion forum! On the old forum the rules stated you must not promote religion. It was in the rules man!! Happy to have you hear, always interesting to hear a Christians views on some of the matters we discuss but don't feel singled out, you chose to come to a board like this and it is set up for the purpose of discussing how religions are control systems etc.

Yes. And by our ability to create and build measurement devices. We are limited by our perception and technological achievments and current understanding of the universe. We are still at an infant stage with regards to the last point. I'll give an example courtesy of Stan Deyo - trying to measure gravity is like trying to measure the weight of a cup full of water with scales while your under the sea. Great thread and I'll say again - can we please have a Surpressed Technology / Free Energy sub forum please for threads like this.

Hi Labrats, I read the thread, all of it. I have an opinion so I'll give it you. Now try to hear me out. I think you need to go and see your doctor. Explain to him what has been happening. Ask him, to write you a supporting letter to your solicitors. The letter needs to explain from the doctor your beliefs about what is happening and that you require the solicitor to make inquiries on your behalf. As has been pointed out on this thread, they would hate witnesses. By going through your doctor to a solicitor you begin to build a team that is on your side. When you see the doctor he/she will no doubt conclude you are having some kind of psychosis and will offer you medication. Take it. By that I mean accept it and actually take the medication for a week or two and see if there is a change. I would like to ask you a few questions but I'll give my reasons. What have you done to warrant this behavior towards you? What are the rumors or lies do you think are being told to your family and friends? You haven't elaborated or explained that yet. Now, the reason I ask is because there was a blacklisting agency that existed a while back and prevented a lot of builders from getting jobs, they were from what I remember blacklisted for their political views. They were activists, agitators, politically involved individuals that actively took part in demonstrations and petitions etc. So they were targeted, they did eventually prove their case. There was an agency in charge of a book of who not to hire in the industry. To prove their case required help from professional people, thats one reason why I say you need to start with the doctor. The second reason is because if you have a professional person on your side it will give you more credibility. Having read your posts and letters I have to tell you that you are not going to get any form of response, letters like yours to MP's or government officials will go straight in the bin. It was to long, rambling, vague, accusatory and repetitive. This suggest to me you may not be all well. I have experience with psychosis and you sound to me like someone heading for a breakdown. Hence again, why I suggest you speak to your doctor, have him write you a letter for the solicitors. The doctor and solicitor will know doubt ask you to document your story, take pictures of events etc. If your phone gets wiped remotely then there will be evidence of that on your phone so don't worry about that. Just try to get pictures of people or cars, ambulances etc that are harassing you. You see how you can start to build a case. The doctor will help you if you agree to help him by trying medication. The solicitors will take your letter seriously if there is a supporting letter from the doctor. If you can get evidence then you are beginning to get somewhere. Meanwhile the medication will kick in and you may find the problem starts to go away. Bottling this up or sending wild rambling letters to officials will only help THEIR case against you as it will be easy to paint you as unstable. If you are heading for a breakdown then only by getting help will you be able to advert it. If you speak to your doctor and agree to medication then that will prove you are being sane and rational enough to try alternative avenues than just claiming to be being harassed and refusing any help offered. It sounds like your family are, well I don't know what to put except - turning away from you? If they don't understand what is happening to you then this is a normal reaction. Deep down you must know they care about you, even if they have been fed a load of lies, they will still at some level care about you, if they see you getting help for yourself then that may turn them around back to your side. Don't worry to much of the effects of medication, you will still be able to think and act enough to take pictures, drive, work etc. No doubt it will affect your memory and concentration but it won't incapacitate you. Hope this helps

Hi! Thanks for posting. Yes the Jesuits are major Sun Worshipers, they control or at least use the Vatican telescopes to study the sun. They want to bring back Sunday laws? Yet more proof Christianity is Sun worship among other things. Worshipping on the day of the Sun and not the Sabbath. As far as them being the controllers, well yes its the Jesuits but its also the Catholics, the Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, the Bilderbergers, the Politicians, Royalty, the Freemasons, Common purpose... the list goes on, the breadth is global and it goes back way in time. Hence I prefer Stanley Monteith's 'Murder On The Orient Express' explanation. With so many suspects with motive and opportunity it wasn't any one of them, it was ALL of them. I believe the conspiracy is the same, its not just the Jesuits or the Rothchilds or Royalty or Freemasons or the 10 corporations who control all the brands or the Bildebergers - its all of them and it goes back way in time. That makes it almost impossible to comprehend, that suggests its supernatural, it all points to Satanism as that appears to be the oldest explanation for it. Is Satan actually extra terrestial or interdimensional? Maybe I don't know for sure but I would rely more on the sages of old who gave us the stories in the first place and also the black magicians who have given us information in the religious works and magical writings - that its a spiritual war for our souls. Hence I believe the real controllers of the world are Satanists and they come in many guises.

Thank you! Yes he is isn't he. I had forgotten about that. In my translation of the Koran its spelt Isa which could be pronounced eesa like the Buddhists called him. Thanks again.

Besides if 7 demons were really cast out of Mary by Jesus, who was God incarnate as the Catholics believe, then Mary woukd have been cleansed and blessed by God himself. Who's to say after such a powerful blessing what Mary would have been capable of spiritually, are we to put limits on what God can do? How do we know he didn't make her as good as new, as if she'd never sinned? The whole argument about Mary being a sinner and therefore less spiritual is wrong as well as the church admitting her history to be wrong. Mary was not a sinner and even if she was, she was redeemed and shouldn't be judged by it. But then Christians just love to judge others in direct contradiction to their own teachings.

This is correct. A pope mixed up the Mary's in the Bible and labelled Magdelene a prostitute. The Catholic church have acknowledged this mistake and no longer believe Mary Magdelene was a prostitute. Why some Christians still choose to believe she was a prostitute is beyond me. And why if Mary was a prostitute would that preclude her from becoming spiritual? God loves the lost sheep that is returned to the flock, there's no reason why if she changed her ways she could not become a powerful siritual person. After all that is a central message of Christianity - that of redemption.

No worries - if your into UFO technology I really recommend that essay, it was written back in 1981 and its an excellent foray into speculative engineering.

Thanks for the reply! Yes your rant was good I enjoyed it. I agree UFO's are real, I just can't explain from where they come. There was a great essay floating about the net years ago - 'How To Build A UFO After So Many Amateurs Have Tried And Failed' it was an awesome essay going step by step and examining speculative engineering principles. Then you have the Searle effect, apparently the BBC did film one of his demonstrations but I haven't been able to track anything down. Stan Deyo in Cosmic Conspiracy also touched upon free energy too, that was an interesting concept. My favorite conspiracy is the everlasting lightbulb and its surpression, now of course proven beyond dubt in 'The Lightbulb Conspiracy' documentary.My main interest in conspiracies has always been UFO, Free Energy and Surpressed technology but I also lean to the supernatural side of things. The Protocols to me I'm not yet convinced are real, seems to convenient to find the plan laid out like that and it fall into our hands. Seems very unlikely, most likely another psyop by someone. But who, someone clearly wrote them and that someone clearly knew what was going on. So, they seem real but who knows if they are genuinely as presented. Douglas Reed, author of the 'Controversy of Zion' and accused of being antisemetic thought they were fake. William Cooper the author of Behold A Pale Horse thought the conspiracy could be traced back to The Brotherhood Of The Snake. RE the Illuminati, if there's a dark side, then that kind of proves there is probably a good side, what the Illuminati are actually doing I'm not sure, One World Government and Religion, seems a reasonable plan if it stops the fighting and gives everyone freedom. But what it seems to be is One World Communist State with Luciferianism as its religion. So no, not good at all. I'm all for individuality, think we should celebrate our differences and keep hold of our cultures but I'm not against mixing, some individuals fall in love and thats absolutely fine by me. A one world government doesn't sound like a bad idea, thinking along the lines of Star Trek and a future world where everyone is united and war is a thing of the past, it could be good to have an over riding government body so standards are the same everywhere, but unfortunately, that concentrates power and that is never good, so I would prefer we keep our countries and cultures and work together as humans of the same planet. Just playing devils advocate a bit with the whole 'are the illuminati the good guys' Have you read the 'Illuminatus' trilogy. Robert Anton Wilson talks about the 'Chapilus Perilous' where once you enter into conspiracy theory reality distorts and you find the ground slip away, unless you hold onto some belief you may not make it through the other side back to normality. Well I've been there, got to the point where I considered we may be nothing more than farmyard animals for an alien race, being farmed here on planet earth with no chance of escape. That sort of thinking leads to depression, breakdown and ultimately skizophrenia - I had a breakdown 4 years ago, thought I was 'A son of God' thought I could talk to dead people. Went a bit mad. I'm ok now but I am really trying to keep a level head about conspiracies. I don't believe everything I read on a conspiracy website, I try to look at both sides, try to be rationale and ultimately hold on to the belief if there are bad guys out there there are also good people out there trying to counterbalance it and also, to some extent, I try to keep one foot in the 'What if there is no conspiracy' I have to try and hold both views to maintain my sanity. (its hard when you know that history is full of conspiracies) Yeah for me most of this conspiracy thing seems to be Luiciferianism based, Lucifer is quite possibly Satan which makes this whole thing Satanic, regardless of the clothes they wear or churches they pray at, ultimately, if they serve satan, they are satanists. It seems to me it goes back way in time, if its satanism then it goes back to our beginnings. It fits with satanism, one world government and religion with satan at the head, destruction of family, societies and natural order, inversion of good, war, pollution, destruction of nature. Seems satanic to me.

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Yes i accept your points. Another point is people on this forum don't believe the virus exists - so how do we now believe a cure exists for a virus that doesn't?

I was reading about that doctor, I don't know if its a smear but apparently that doctor claims that Endometriosis is caused by having sex with demons. So I don't know, if she believes something like that then can we trust her?

I'm interested in Freemasonary, I started a thread on Mithraism and how it may be linked to Freemasonary in Scotland but that seems to have got lost with the hack. What direction are you hoping to explore with this thread - its secret teachings, philosophy or perhaps its history or alleged conspiracies (like eating children as the caller in your vid alleges) According to the Masons their fraternity goes back to 1700's. But dig a little deeper and we find there was a lodge in Scotland in the 16th century. The Masons claim they don't know from where it originates, but I don't believe that! Seems they don't know whom they worship if they don't know how it started. The thread I started on Mithraism explained that the cult of Mithra may have been passed to the Scotish when the Romans had settlements there. The Romans were great builders to. In the thread, from memory, I think the Mithra cult had secret handshakes and degree's of initiation so seems comprable to Freemasonary, Mithtraism was certainly another Solar cult, probably straight out of one of the mystery schools in Babylon. You may not want to hear it but the book, The Devils Pulpit by Rev Taylor has 3 chapters on Freemasonary where Rev Taylor reveals a few secrets of Freemasonary. I would be happy to post the info if your interested.

I enjoyed your rant. Do you think the whole 'Illuminati' legend is a psyop. I've wondered because it seems like a great excuse for the Kings, Queens and politicians that rule us on a day to day basis. 'Its not us - there are higher powers' seems like a convenient cop out. Also, The Protocols Of Zion - another psyop? And UFO's? Another psyop to hide advanced technology? But then we have to ask 'who are the originators of these psyops and why' which of course brings us back to conspiracy theories and elite rulers. But maybe they are just the secret service alphabet agencies playing at propoganda and directing the public to be compliant and controllable and undermining foreign governments. You also have to wonder if the Illuminati are the good guys, fighting for reason and enlightenment and dark magicians have warped the narrative to muddy the waters. If you read the publicly known goals of Weishupts plan it was to go against a church that was oppressive to people and science and quite probably corrupt. So the supposed 17th century Illuminati could be argued to be working for the common man. Or it could be argued they sought to undermine society and its institutions. But we know its gone on longer than the 17th century. Watching a documentary about the Kings and Queens of Britain in the early centuries AD, they had 'Illuminated Manuscripts' books with amazing and colorful pictures of Biblical teachings etc. Could they have been the Illuminati we speak of and therefore still are. Or are the real Illuminati caretakers of secret knowledge that stems back years and hope to enlighten or illuminate mankind? That smacks of Luciferanism. However Satan was said to be able to transform into a being of light so if Lucifer is really Satan and the conspiracy of the Illuminati is Luciferianism then really we are dealing with Satanism and they go under the guise of Luciferianism trying to 'enlighten us' into Luciferian doctrine. So who knows, playing devils advocate a bit and having a bit of a thought experiment, just wondering what your thoughts are? How much is psyop?

Cheers. Had a quick look in Hidden Science where I used to post and the posts in that sub forum are dated 2015! Hope there's an up to date back up somewhere. I bumped all the high scoring threads to the front page to make it easier to find popular threads and interesting ti browse as all the good threads we're on the front few pages. I thought we should copy threads over to this forum when it opened but then it seems they may have been lost in the hack anyway as other threads have disappeared. I do hope they get a complete and recent back up of the old forum online soon. So much information on that old forum.

I had a weird experience. To frame it, I was having a breakdown a the time, thought I was 'a son of God' thought I could talk to dead people, built a big cross in my garage to keep the devil out. Then one evening this happened - I was smoking in my garage, felt trippy, felt like the end of something, felt like I was communing with entity's. I was sat on a kitchen stool, quite tall compared to a chair. Head down, contemplating, meditating. I rocked forwards on the stool so I was supported by 2 of its legs, bending my knee's lowering myself down to the floor. Head bowed. I felt my back open up like Origami, it unfolded in the shape of a spider. 2 or 3 feet large, centred on the middle of my spine, legs extending out over my shoulders. I felt the space that it had existed in, I did not feel the entity itself. My back folded back together and sealed up, my knee's straightened and I sat back up. It took maybe 5 minutes for it to complete. I was thanked. Have to say - one of the weirdest trips I have ever had, I've only hallucinated on weed once before, normally I don't. How I did not fall off the kitchen stool I do not know. I was practically touching the floor with the back legs of the stool jammed into my back and my feet pushing backwards. Like a pyramid. Very weird. As for getting rid of them, all I can say is I asked for the entity to be removed and it was.

Hi, bumping thread, any info yet? I feel we should cooy good threads from the old forum to this one for back up and because there were some great threads over there, no need to reinvent the wheel just keep the conversations going on this forum.

Well some would say you have this backwards. There appears to be evidence that the Giza pyramids were built first and all the others came later and show a decline or loss of knowledge about how to build pyramids. The fact that your theory coincides with accepted Egyptology could be seen as a red flag on the DIF forum, like quoting from Wiki is frowned upon on here. All I know is that guy - Hawass is it, has blocked and refused many archeological requests over the last 20 odd years to explore the pyramids and surrounding areas. So I'm not sure 'accepted' egyptology is to be trusted. There are many books offering theories of the Giza pyramids being built around 10,000 BC and as Oz has pointed out the evidence of water errosion supports that theory.

Well it comes form the book - The Devils Pulpit. Rev Taylor was a trained and ordained clergy and had access to books we don't - like one of the Freemasons revered books, can't remember which, its in the book but he had a copy and the then head of Freemasonry, the HRH Prince of the time had the other copy of the only known two copies in existence. So Taylor drew from some pretty high sources. I've screen shot the references for you, to show its not disinfo, it is actually written.

Yes, but you see the Egyptian civilization was another civilization that sprung up out of nowhere with fully formed writing systems and knowledge of Astronomy, building arts. It seems they 'inherited' their knowledge from earlier sources. Where did they get their knowledge from? So I think these mystery religions go way back in time to before the Egyptians but do incorporate, have absorbed or have taken on influences from its journey through time. There appears to be Phoenician influences as well, again, the Phoenicians seem to have had advanced knowledge for their time - it seems they were able to circumnavigate the globe and have stories of going where its daylight all the time. Seems they got around and knew what they were doing i.e the Earth was a sphere and not flat. This was 3000BC!! We didn't accept the Earth was a sphere until 13th century I think, formally recognized in the 15th century was it?? China recognizing the fact int the 17th century? But Islamic scholars had it earlier than the west. I can't be arsed to look it up. But I know we supposedly didn't recognize the Earth was sphere until thousands of years after the Phoenicians, Egyptians and Indians. Its what I think one of the interpretations of 'as above so below' is. That the Earth is a sphere like the other heavenly bodies we see. One of the mystery school teachings. Jesus's name devolves in the Greek or Hebrew, to -' I' the symbol for God and the Phoenician word for fire 'es' 'Jesus - Jes - Ies = I (the Great God) and es the Phoenician for fire - Great God of Fire' So it seems the writers of these mysteries had roots in Phoenician times and Egyptian times but both these civilizations had knowledge beyond that which they should have had for their time, hence they got it from earlier sources. The symbols and knowledge encoded in the mystery religions predates even Egypt. Which again is why I don't think its the Jews at the top of the conspiracy. According to Rev Taylor in Devils Pulpit the term Jew was never meant to designate a race but only a degree of initiation into the mystery religions, the order going Christian, Jew, Hebrew. So the Hebrews are at the top - who were they, these Hebrews, that had knowledge stemming from before Phoenician times and were able to create the religions and secret societies we see nowadays? They are the real spiritual rulers of this world and the originators or propagators of the religions and secret societies and mystery schools. Their knowledge goes way back and is in my view Satanic, hence I believe the grand conspiracy against us is Satanic not Jewish. Some of the players may be Jewish, but really they serve Satan. Doesn't the bible say, the Synagogue of Satan, those that call themselves Jews but are not Jewish. Its in the bible! I know thats a suspect source but even still, its there. So Christianity draws on knowledge or stories that predates Egypt, imo

Yes I suppose there is that but if people decided to keep the mask for pollution or Covid/Virus or health reasons then I would have thought that would interfere with facial recognition and be an undesireable consequence.

RT is good, don't get me wrong, but its a government propoganda channel. So yes there will be some truth but it is used for propoganda. Just like the Arab channels the BBC broadcast to the middle east, some truth and some propoganda. Imo all news outlets sometimes tell the truth, sometimes distort the truth and sometimes ignore the truth. I watch a bit of RT, Kaiser report, watch a bit of BBC, read some of the Daily Mail and Guardian and used to read the Persian news website because all government propoganda news channels do, sometimes, tell the truth. So RT and the Persian news channel publish uncomfortable news about UK government. While BBC will publish uncomfirtable truths about Russia. So my advice is play them all, try and find the truthful bits while ignoring the propoganda. Edit: Press TV being the Persian news channel.

This face mask rule must be messing up their facial recognition cameras and software. Wonder if they really want us wearing masks. If it becomes the new norm and people take to wearing masks like in China the facial recognition technology goes out the window. Just a thought.