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Sir Keir Starmer accused the protesters of using the British flag as a symbol of violence. The press are reporting Starmer has accused all those people as violent. He didn't say 'Far Right' but that's how the press are reporting it. He said it on TV knowing it would affect the reputations of all the people involved. Imagine telling your neighbors, friends and work colleagues you were going to attend. After Starmer's interview all those people will think you are a Far Right, violent thug. It is in print and was broadcast to the nation. He knew all those people attending would be affected by his accusation. He has committed slander on at least 100, 000 British people. Can they sue him? A quick search says 'Yes' a group can be slandered. If the group can be identified. Class action by the protesters against Kier Starmer?

In what way apply? If an Israeli wanted to emigrate here I wouldn't be against it If a Palestinian wanted to emigrate here I wouldn't be against it either, if they weren't radical Islam. I mean I draw the line at removing the entire British people and handing over the country to millions of foreigners, but in principle I have no issue with immigration at all. I still support Israel because they are fighting extreme Islam. It doesn't matter one bit to me now how they came to be there, Pogroms and Hitler were the main reasons for Jewish people ending up in Palestine. It was the violence and attacks they endured from other Arab nations using Palestine as a proxy that forced Israel to become occupiers. But now we see the new face of Islam that has been growing over the last 60-70 years and I say thank fuck for Israel fighting these extremists. You would rather hand over that middle eastern region to terrorists?

To be honest, I've feel the same way. I got no problem with immigration. People from Africa, India or Somalia. I quoted an Afghan who wanted to bring his mum because she doesn't like the veil. Presumably they are moderate Muslims who reject the extreme interpretation being forced on them. I would welcome her to. Iranians fleeing what they view as extreme Islam. Welcome here. Syria has recently kicked out the Muslim Brotherhood as did Morocco. They won't tolerate this new (60-70years old) interpretation of Islam. I don't think Turkey do either. What we are seeing is either forced or planned. It's either extreme economic migration because of all the corruption associated with Oil industry and rulers of those lands. Or They are weaponizing immigration to change Europe and the west to an Islamic state which will either be achieved by sheer numbers or war. Its the fallout of decades of corrupt capitalism or religious / economic war by Russia, China and Iran.

Some comments "If you want truth, because I was there. The police turned against us. They allowed the counter protest closer than agreed, then antagonised our peaceful crowd by pinning us in a certain area and forcibly narrowing that area so the opposing protests wouldn't meet. This involved charging by police in riot gear towards our well behaved crowd which resulted in retaliation.". Severe Weather Updates they were deliberately led the wrong way by police into the baby burning terrorists and their supporters, who then attacked the police and the british public, I've seen the video's from start to finish, not just a planned snippet, this government is a disgrace the most evil, treacherous government of all time. westminster council revoked the licence for the parade 48 hours beforehand and after tommy met with the police, the police stuck a middle finger up to westminster council and gave permission for it to go ahead as planned, so I'd say there was a few police officers who under orders from the treacherous government or bent anti british police commanders, followed orders and what a disaster that was for them because we stood firm and proud, and the terrorists and their supporters proved what they are, scum, 2 million people and 9 arrests, the police even allowed an extension be ause the patriots behaved so well and respectful, no smashed, looted shops, no attacking the police, or people going about their business, no cars lit on fire or police vans burnt, I'd say compared to any other group of protesters to date we were and have been, as procen, the most peaceful, up yours starmer your time is up, between labour and the connies they're support has dropped to around 40% between them, starmer and his scummy government need to go!!!!

I still support Israel.

Tommy Robinson gave a short talk at the end of the demo. He explained that Westminster Council retracted the license to protest 48 hours before. This meant the Police would have to view the demo as illegal and to meet it with force and a view to stop it. Robinson explained the government has used the tactics before. Grant permission, then withdraw permission and the Police has to change from peaceful policing, to using force. This creates a violent backlash from protesters, who can the be labeled illegitimate demo by violent thugs. On top of this, we see the government shipping paid protesters into legitimate protests they can't stop, to antagonize the protesters, force a violent confrontation so once again, the protest becomes violent and lose its legitimacy. This is clear social engineering by the government to present a narrative to the world and our society that is reinforced by bias reporting. This is as bad as China and Russia and their social controls. This is Labour, the working people's party. Surely now, everyone can see - they are wolves in sheep's clothing among the workers. Promising us they act in our best interests while selling out to globalists and using social engineering to cover up what they are doing. This is serious now.

The next step is corporate rule. They own our land, control our food, our industries and our homes. They will funnel money out of economies into offshore accounts keeping those economies in debt and ensuring nobody owns anything. Everything will be regulated and taxed. Governments will be directed by businesses. Facism. Thats the next step.

You shouldn't frame sovereignty as Common Law, But you should frame it as a religious belief. Islam can operate iits own courts and financial institutions under the argument of religious freedom. Protected by EHCR Claim 'Freeman on the Land' as a religion and you'll get away with it.

Where Did We Get the Idea That Only White People Can Be Racist? Peter Wood Snip The twin themes “only whites can be racist” and “all whites are racist” appeared at the University of Delaware in 2007. The “sustainability” dorm-based indoctrination program at UD offered this aperҫu: A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. ‘The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination….’ This formulation was adopted by UD after consultation with Dr. Shakti Butler, a consultant who goes around advising colleges and universities to this effect. The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), whose spotlight on UD led to the end of the residence program, archived a database of materials from it, including Dr. Butler’s “Diversity Facilitation Training.” Dr. Butler, incidentally, lists Boston University as one of her clients. She is a popularizer, not the originator of these conceits. But the thing to note is that there is a whole sub-industry within the diversity industry that is devoted to advancing the idea that only whites can be racist. Dr. Grundy is just repeating a widespread meme that circulates among the radicals of the diversity movement. In January 1987, Socialist Worker published the article “The Fallacy of Reverse Racism,” in which the author wrote, “Blacks cannot be ‘racists.’ link - https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/where_did_we_get_the_idea_that_only_white_people_can_be_racist Socialists at it again, white capitalists are racist and evil. Dianne Abbott is still up there, encouraging deluded lefties they are racist unless they destroy their own country.

From the BBC - 'More than 100,000' Reports are nearly a million. I know 1000,000 is more than 100,000 but come on. From the same BBC article- At the Stand Up To Racism rally, independent MP Diane Abbott told demonstrators they were there to stand together. "We know racism and violence and fascism is not new," she said. "But you know what? We have always defeated that racism and violence." But they don't defeat facism. As i have argued, Labour is overseeing the transfer of all business, farming and housing to private, offshore corporations, including parts of our armed services, while stripping rights away from citizens. That is the start of facism. Dianne Abbott was Labour. From Wiki - Abbott has been a prominent figure on the Labour left and a vocal campaigner on issues of race and inequality. She was suspended from the Labour Party in 2023 over comments about racism, later apologised, and had the whip restored ahead of the 2024 general election. In July 2025, she was suspended again after reiterating those remarks in a BBC interview, and currently sits as an independent MP. So basically she's a racist attending a stand up to racism rally. She argued only black people are subject to racism, all others its just prejudice. I've argued this before, emailed the Southern Law group. If a black person in a predominantly white dociety has 'racist' views, they are not racist and only prejudice. So if a black person says Scottish people are tight with money, it's prejudice, because the black person is living as a minority. If a white person says black people are lazy, they are racist because they are of the majority. So, if a white person goes to Africa and says black people are lazy, they are not racist anymore, they are prejudice. If a black person goes to Africa and says Scottish people are skinflints, they are now racist. My question to the southern law lot was - At which point of the journey does a person change from prejudice to racist? Is it in the airport lounge? When they enter international air space or when they land in the country where they are either the majority or minority? I didn't get an answer. These people don't have an intellectual bone in their body. Only hate and resentment.

Ok it's Saturday! Lost the days there - to much time alone!

I'm sitting on my boat and a Muslim family have taken a boat out on to the river and are playing Islamic call to prayer so loudly im hearing it from half a mile away or so. It's echoing around the marina. Getting distant now. I guess they are going up river. A response to the flags? Letting us know it's their country now? Not at all antagonistic being a Sunday. Yes, the women were wearing Burkas. I wondered what was going on when they showed up this morning.

I've been hearing about offshore companies funnelling taxes out of the UK since forever. I was aware of it as a teenager. That's 40 years ago! And yet, despite it being heavily reported and criticized for decades, no government has ever done anything about it. When Labour came to power in the 90's I thought it was an obvious thing for the party to do - stick it to the capitalists and gain a win for the economy and the working man. But no, they destroyed the private pension industry for the worker instead. Made it impossible to sustain final salary pensions for the workers. Who has heard of 'Economic Anarchist's' ? People who have accepted they cannot change the system for Anarchy, so instead, make a note of the sickness and lateness policy of the company they work for and make sure they use up the allocated quota every year. Go a bit slow at work, miss the odd deadline. Try not to be efficient so the company doesn't thrive. Why shouldn't politicians do the same? If your a socialist or communist, you despise working in the system, but you accept if you want to be a politician you have to. So be a bad one. Not too bad, but a wrong decision here and there, voting against certain policies to defeat them. Running the office inefficiently, ignoring key problems that could be solved, destroying things that work - Education Secretary forcing Academies to take disruptive children and making it to expensive to get a private education to all except the filthy rich etc. In this way, its death by a thousand cuts. Now, when I see politicians making dumb decisions, backing irrelevant policies that do little to address the issue, ignore excesses and corruption, cover up mismanagement or corrupt management, bailing out industries with tax payers money, watching uncontrolled housing inflation, overseeing excessive tax regimes that drive business away because they have a net zero ideology which contradicts a healthy economy for the worker. I think it has to be by design. I think it has to be the Fabians, the Communist's. I've told this story before, when I rented in Aylesbury we rented from a Muslim lady, nice lady. She explained she got her mortgage from the Muslim bank which meant she didn't pay interest. So our government allow for members of our society, and business's to have an unfair advantage over its own people. Who allowed that? Why? What economic progress does it bring to British people? None. Its unfair over struggling families. Government don't care though. Government talk about allowing asylum seekers from oppressive regimes to come here, yet allow Sharia Courts and Sharia Law - oppression for women to operate here. I wonder if there's a smirk on the government officials face when they tell an asylum seeker they will be going somewhere with a heavy Muslim presence that although can't legally enforce Sharia, there are Sharia courts and they will do so with public and social pressure. The thing is, to be this bad, its got to be intentional hasn't it? Our own people can't afford houses so give grants to offshore companies who will charge highest rent while doing minimum maintenance enforce strict rules and take the profits offshore. Take our Gas reserves, dump tonnes and tonnes of cement over the drill hole so we can never open it up again, destroy all the power generating centres and towers, build homes on them and hand them over to business, then put up a few windmills, watch the energy costs sky rocket and tell the people its for the planet. Take succeeding private schools and academies, tax them so they are unsustainable and force academies to take disruptive children. Close industries make thousands unemployed and then complain they are the problem because their benefits bill is to high. Lazy scroungers. And now, pay protestors and the Police to attend demonstrations, label the opposition far right and racist to distort public opinion. Send the Border Force out not to protect our Border's but to help illegal immigrants make it safely and tell us we're far right if we disagree. Mis manage the armed forces and allow Investment Companies to rent weapons of war to the British and Foreign governments so again those offshore investment companies can funnel our tax money paying for defence to slush funds offshore. Take the worst and most impractical energy pricing strategy, outlaw everything you can for the flimsiest of reasons - Laughing Gas because of Littering. These inconsequential bill's go through very quickly but closing offshore tax loopholes, its been over 40 years of complaints, billions lost in revenue and they barely hve a conversation about it. It seems obvious, they are not trying to work towards some sort of Utopian or fair society. They intentionally f*ck it up depending on their political ideology. Conservative want everything marketized, nor free NHS or Education, you pay for everything, every company must have share holders who get paid dividends off the backs of the workers. Or Labour want socialism, everything owned by the state, everything regulated, Unionized and strictly controlled. Tories get in, they build, Labour get back in, they tear down. Backwards and forwards because really, no one wants it to change. Just give us the illusion that change is possible, but its never within reach just yet. When really, they could call a halt to this whole thing tomorrow if they wanted. I think this is what they Fabians are doing. Making bad decisions, going slow, ignoring big problems in favour of minority problems, destroying the economy by chipping away at it. Bit by bit, damage the system until it's so weak it fails.

Yeah we're naturally violent. Found out i had an issue when I was 8 or 9, arguing with my sister and I absolutely lost it. Punched through a glass partition in a door. Until then I had always tried to avoid conflict, but she wound me up so much, I saw black, lost control. After that I kept myself away from bad situations. I learnt martial arts, Judo, Karate, Taekwondo and Tai Chi. First day of secondary school I got into a fight with a kid who turned out to be 1 of the hardest kids from another school. I didn't back down, he didn't win. Neither of us did really. But no one came near me after that. I had a traumatic violent childhood, no bully can hold a candle to that. You can only be truly peaceful if you know how and can be violent, but you value peace more and are able to control yourself. Men shouldn't be ashamed of violence, but be able to control it. Imo. Edit: I did Disco dancing lessons as well. It wasn't all violence. Although my Violin lessons were probably violent to the teacher.

Yeah he was legend. He an a mate drove round their city centre with balaclavas on! Armed police pulled them over. Freaking hilarious.

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Yeah I'm thinking of identifying as a Muslim Woman, buying a burka, cut the bottom off so it's only a head covering and walking around in it. I'm just worried about PacMan coming to get me. It's that or a full face balaclava. A previous member did something similar, he got stopped by armed police! Funny as f*ck. (Hayabusa was members name on old forum)

Do you know, I heard exactly the same thing. But I was told, the rents are cheap, the property stays in the family for generations unless they don't want it and the premises are yours to do as you please. No 6 monthly inspections, no restrictions on pets, smoking, or decorating. I went to see a house once, but the landlord was using the attic room for storage and we couldn't use it. If you rent in UK, the restrictions are ridiculous, the cost is not cheap and the maintenance will be sub standard. And you have to endure inspections. I even had 1 company that insisted all my electrical items were PAT tested yearly. In this country you used to rent cheap to save a deposit. Not now, and iff shareholders become our landlords, it'll be a living nightmare.

Found on Facebook- I have been meaning to post about this for a while because the truth is, once you understand who the Fabians are, you stop wondering how the world became this twisted and you start seeing the pattern. You stop thinking it is chaos and you start realising it is design. We have been conditioned to think change happens through revolutions, riots or coups, but what if I told you that the real power, the real architects of the system we live under, were the ones who never shouted, never marched, never set a street on fire… they just quietly infiltrated everything. That is the Fabian Society. The hidden hand that did not need to break the system because they became the system. They started in London in 1884, a group of well-heeled intellectuals and social engineers who saw the crumbling British Empire and decided to rebuild the world in their own image. They did not want chaotic uprisings that might spiral out of their control like the French Revolution or the Bolsheviks. They wanted control. Order. A slow, deliberate reconstruction of everything, so gradual that the masses would not even notice until it was done. That is why they named themselves after the Roman general Fabius Maximus, known as the Delayer, who defeated stronger enemies not through battle but by waiting them out, slowly weakening them until he struck. Their emblem was a tortoise and their motto was “When I strike, I strike hard.” Their coat of arms was a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They told us exactly what they were from the beginning. Wolves wrapped in fleece, smiling politely while they gutted the world. The names attached to them are ones you will recognise from schoolbooks and old literature, but no one ever tells you what they were really doing. George Bernard Shaw, the famous playwright, was one of their key founders. He worshipped the idea of Nietzsche’s Übermensch, the Superman, and fantasised openly about building a world ruled by a godlike elite. He called Lenin the greatest Fabian of them all and pushed for population control, forced sterilisation and licensing who could even be born. He was not some eccentric poet. He was a eugenicist with influence. H G Wells was another Fabian, writing endless books not just about science fiction but about a planned world state, a New World Order run by experts and bureaucrats. Sidney and Beatrice Webb quietly designed the framework of the modern welfare state and the bureaucracy that came with it. Annie Besant, another Fabian, was a Theosophist who believed in preparing the world for a new messiah figure, the so-called World Teacher, which just so happens to mirror the same Luciferian cult belief system that keeps popping up in elite circles. These people were not trying to uplift humanity. They were trying to erase it and rebuild it like clay in their hands. This is the key thing to understand. The Fabians did not go after the masses. They went after the gatekeepers. They infiltrated the education system, the universities, the civil service, the media, the banks and the political parties. They even founded the London School of Economics to train their own army of policy-makers, economists and global managers. They created the Labour Party as their political weapon. Every Labour government of the last century has been packed full of Fabians, from Clement Attlee to Harold Wilson to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Even the supposedly opposite Conservative Party has its own Oxbridge feeder network pushing the same agenda under different branding. It is all the same machine. What makes them so dangerous is their method. They do not try to smash society in one blow. They slowly reshape it, one tiny step at a time, so each change feels normal. They call it gradualism. Boil the frog slowly and it will not jump out. By the time people wake up, the entire landscape has shifted. Culture, law, education, family, finance, religion, all of it quietly rewritten. That is why they use the tortoise as their symbol. They are slow, patient and relentless, but when they strike, they strike hard. Wars, financial collapses, cultural revolutions and engineered crises are not accidents. They are the hammer blows. They spend decades heating the world red hot through chaos, fear and exhaustion, then they reshape it on the anvil. George Bernard Shaw even designed a stained-glass window to celebrate their mission, which still sits at the London School of Economics today. It shows the Fabians literally hammering the world on an anvil while a shield above them bears the words “Pray devoutly, Hammer stoutly” and at the centre, a wolf in sheep’s clothing hovers over the globe. The inscription reads “Remould it nearer to the heart’s desire.” They could not have been more honest about it. These people have always believed that humanity is too stupid to run its own life, so the educated class must do it for them. They see the rest of us as cattle to be managed, controlled, medicated, tracked and if necessary, culled. It is the same belief system you see in the modern technocrats, the World Economic Forum, the UN, the WHO, the central bankers and the Silicon Valley elite. All of them are pushing the same vision the Fabians sketched out more than a century ago. A centralised global system with no borders, no private property, no traditional families, no faith and no freedom. Just digital IDs, central bank digital currencies, algorithmic social credit scores and a single global religion managed by their hand-picked clerics. Even Tony Blair, a Fabian, launched the Tony Blair Faith Foundation to push Faith and Globalisation, which is just code for merging religions into one system to prop up their world government. They want control down to the level of your thoughts and they are dressing it all up in words like sustainability and equity to make it palatable. This is not conspiracy theory. This is what they have always said, and they have done it in plain sight. They are the reason everything feels orchestrated from the top down, because it is. They do not break systems, they become them. They do not storm the gates, they become the gatekeepers. They do not burn the world down in riots, they rot it out from within, and by the time anyone notices, it is too late. They are the silent engineers of the collapse we are watching now. They do not care about freedom, or justice, or truth. They care about power. And they have played the longest game of all to get it. The Fabian Society is not some relic of the past. It is alive, it is embedded in the very fabric of our governments and institutions, and it has never abandoned its mission. It waits patiently, building, infiltrating, reshaping, and when the world is finally hot enough, when the chaos has softened it up, when people are broken and begging for order, it will strike. Because that is what it was always created to do. It waits long. But when it strikes, it strikes hard.

Thanks. I didn't see all this coming. It is PRS as David writes, create or allow a problem to manifest so a solution can be provided. I asked today on my immigration thread, why did we need the EHCR? We had good human rights in the UK and Europe, so why did we need it. Again they convinced us a problem existed where none did and bought it all in. Now we see they are using it to destroy sovereignty. We need more houses. Did we? Now we see we're flooded with immigration and yes we do need houses so the solution is give money and preference to big business, hand out tax payers money so a corporation can profit and funnel money overseas. It seems TPTB are pushing for corporate rule, corporations with human rights but nobody actually accountable for wrong doing, because it's a corporation. It can commit crimes and nobody goes to jail. These politicians can get sacked from a post only to return in one form or another. If I get sacked for my performance from a company, I will find it very hard to get another job in the same industry. They don't. If government are going to give our money to corporations to build our houses and allow those companies to dominate, or in other words, monopolize the industry, that breaks their own rules, mismanaged our economy and hands massive control of our lives to unaccounted, offshore corporations who can behave as they please because they are largely unaccountable. If I work for a company whom I also bank with and rent my property from, I am no better off than the Serf's of yesteryear. When corporations have enough control, our energy, transport and infrastructure as well as owning the homes, businesses and banks, the government won't listen to the electorate, their priority will be keeping business happy. Taxpayer funded bailouts because they're to big to fail.