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Fair enough. As you say, things with the vaccine may well be ok. Best not to dwell on past decisions too much. You're unlikely to find the confirmation that everything's going to be ok in this forum!

I agree that the vaccine may be perfectly fine and I have been disappointed with the content that has come out recently from the likes of Sucharit Bhakdi and Mike Yeadon (scientists who have been spot on about most things up until now), citing the study from Arne Burkhardt with his sample size of 15 vax deaths and other "research" suggesting lethal batches (yet they don't know the batch sizes to begin with). What a load of old tosh and wild speculation with no hard evidence to back it up. However, my own opinion remains that this will cause auto-immune disease in the years to come (similar to HIV). Ridiculously hard to detect and no one knows the mechanism as yet. We know they want to depopulate, we know they are desperate to get these jabs into people and we know these mRNA technologies have an extremely patchy track record. Do not kid yourself about your "best mate who spoke to his cousin" - the Oxford vax is a gene based technology like the rest of them. See here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine.html You have permanently altered your immune system with unknown long term consequences. Why did you do it?

In case anyone missed it, there's a really insightful twitter discussion between Prof Devi Sridhar and Dr Bill Gates here: https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1481349250319486976

Does anyone know where an English translation of the latest Sucharit Bhakdi video can be found? German version here: https://rumble.com/vosxxf-prof.-sucharit-bhakdi-zum-bmj-enthllungsbericht-ber-us-forschungsfirma.html

More satanic symbology from them - choosing to bring out this Covid pass on Christmas day

A mumsnet thread on double jabbed people getting ill: https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4362942-Double-jabbed-but-so-ill My pick: "Get well very soon op. I’m Double jabbed with AZ. Ended up in hospital twice- first with pneumonia and second with a Pulmonary embolism. I’m 41. The general consensus whilst I was being treated was Pfizer seems a little more effective than AZ. However I saw two unvaxxed patients whilst in there and they were both sent to icu. So I think the jabs are stopping very severe disease" Definitely something going round and I think we will see deaths start to mount in Winter with the unvaxxed and their compromised immune systems

Vaccine passport exemptions here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-medical-exemptions-proving-you-are-unable-to-get-vaccinated Far more stringent than the mask wearing exemptions

Don't trust that guy either. Despite outlining major risks and uncertainties with the technology, he still took an mRNA vaccine (can't remember his specific reasons why). I find him hard to listen to as well and he doesn't strike me as intelligent and well-thought as Bhakdi and Yeadon (my favourites).

A mumsnet thread on heart palpation after the jab: https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4348761-Change-in-heartbeat-after-second-Pfizer-jab Ties in with Dr Charles Hoffe's theory regarding microclots and Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension

A fully referenced 10 pager on the dangers of the vaccines: https://doctors4covidethics.org/boosting-blood-clots-and-leaky-vessels-the-dangers-of-covid-19-vaccines-and-booster-shots/ Nothing much groundbreaking to us on here. Key takeaway: 2.4.3.4. Leaky Vessels—The Promise of Booster Shots Given that booster shots repeatedly boost the immune response to the spike protein, they will progressively boost self-to-self immune attack, including boosting complement-mediated damage to vessel walls. Clinically speaking, the greater the vessel leakage and clotting that subsequently occurs, the more likely that organs supplied by the affected blood flow will sustain damage. From stroke to heart attack to brain vein thrombosis, the symptoms can range from death to headaches, nausea and vomiting, all of which heavily populate adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccines [2]. As well as damage from leakage and clotting alone, it is additionally possible that the vaccine itself may leak into surrounding organs and tissues. Should this take place, the cells of those organs will themselves begin to produce spike protein, and will come under attack in the same way as the vessel walls. Damage to major organs such as the lungs, ovaries, placenta and heart can be expected ensue, with increasing severity and frequency as booster shots are rolled out.

Anyone join me in Volex? I've multiplied my money 5x now. Invested at 90p

Another mumsnet period thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4324523-AstraZeneca-vaccine-affected-period My pick: "My periods have been all over the place since having my first Pfizer jab. Really, really heavy, spotting throughout the month, irregular and tbh a real pain in the arse. Several of my friends are also experiencing changes, though none of them have reported via the yellow card scheme as they hadn’t made the link. I suspect 15000 is the tip of the iceberg and is simply being ignored. I think the vaccines affect blood in some way. I went to give blood a couple of weeks after my second jab and it kept clotting so I had to go back a week later. The same thing happened again, the blood just wouldn’t flow. The nurse asked me if I had had the AstraZeneca vaccine as she has seen the same issue in other patients following AZ. I’ve regularly been giving blood for 15 years and this has never happened before "

And third jabs...

I know 77th and others are active all over the internet but there are many who are genuine. I know because I have met many of these people face to face in local groups. The conversation starts off positive, but then descends quickly when they start talking about Q, flat earth etc. I think many anti-vax anti-lockdown people lack critical thinking skills just as much as the sheep. Except, instead of believing everything the govt establishment tells them, they disbelieve everything they tell them, right down to the earth being round. As a result, the anti-lockdown anti-vax people (based on logic and evidence) get tarnished with tinfoil tat wearing, Q flat-earthers (which defies logic and evidence). 77th obviously exacerbate this but much of this is organic.

Yes, good points. At the time, some people were saying there would be a world war, nuclear attacks, groups of Muslim militia on the streets of Europe etc but none of those doomsday type situations came to pass (unless you were a citizen of Iraq or Afghanistan). Agree there will be a number of long-lasting changes. Just unsure of whether a doomsday type situation will happen.

Just try to enjoy life and ignore media. A lot of nutcases have sadly jumped on our bandwagon and as a result, arguments against lockdown and vax are sounding increasingly deranged, rather that the measured logic they used to be. In local telegram groups, a few of the most vocal anti-vaxxers are nutcases into Q crap, they post old and patently false info from discredited sources, they have the same psychological biases as the sheep and are hostile when you point facts out to them. There seems to be a dearth of factual analysis recently. I used to follow Bhakdi and other doctors regularly, but I'm slowly losing confidence in them and their doomsday predictions, the longer things go on and the majority are totally fine (although I acknowledge a lot of people have severe vax side effects). His most recent letter was just a rehash of things he'd previously said, with citations from doctors reporting rare severe side effects https://doctors4covidethics.org/leaky-blood-vessels-an-unknown-danger-of-covid-19-vaccination/ so what? I certainly won't be getting the vax and I continue to resist. However, where I previously felt there must be a bigger agenda behind getting everyone injected with the toxic gene jabs (likely depopulation), I'm also increasingly feeling it might just all be a bunch of stuff that's happening with no great grand plan. Look at 9/11, the various other terrorist attacks and the "war on terror", the resulting war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan and relentless fear and media coverage - what was the real point in it all? A bunch of oil money, flexing political/military muscles, some backhanders for mates. No real point to it all. The wars fizzled out. No one held to account. Blair, Bush, Rumsfeld never saw a court. Maybe all this covid shite could just fizzle out too. Some remnants of it will remain, maybe vax passports for overseas travel. Got to remain open to all possibilities, both good, bad and indifferent.

I have thought and posted about this too, but I'm yet to find a video of a reputable scientist making the connection

Yes I am. I am against lockdowns, masks, fascist technocracy and think the vaccines are extremely dangerous. Thing is, the information we post in support of these views is held to a much higher burden of proof than those posting information in support of the govt/MSM because we don't control the trusted media outlets. The smallest chink of falsehood is jumped on by the 77th and others and used to discredit the entire movement.

I think a lot of people "on our side" suffer from the same psychological biases and inability to think critically as the sheep following orders. They just got lucky being on the right side this time because they have an inclination to distrust authority. Bizarre to watch people on both sides glaze over or get defensive when facts are placed right in front of them.

There's no semantics about it. Look at the original quote Ziggy posted, and then look at the quote you've posted.

Which passage are you referring to? I can see no reference to depopulation

Source? Fact-checkers says its fake: https://www.mythdetector.ge/en/myth/what-written-jacques-attalis-book-verbatim-and-who-fabricated-french-politicians-quote “Verbatim” is a memoir book by Jacques Attali, a French politician and counselor to President François Mitterrand from 1981 to 1991. The book reproduces Attali’s memories, dialogues and routine activities. According to the French fact-checking organization AFP Factual, its verification team failed to find the quote in the book from the 1980s. The publisher of the work in France sent a copy of the interview with Jacques Attali in the book, where the viral text does not appear. Moreover, it found no mention of a pandemic in the book.

I think a lot of these side effects we are seeing are due to undetectable microclots in the capillaries, as recently described by Dr Charles Hoffe. Some on here have also mentioned a "grey pallor" to the vaxxed, which can also be a symptom of Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension. https://www.healthline.com/health/pulmonary-hypertension/symptoms-pulmonary-arterial-hypertension

What Charles Hoffe says below (8 minute video) ties in what I've been thinking and further elaborates on what Sucharit Bhakdi has been saying: https://rumble.com/vjino9-dire-warning-from-dr.-charles-hoffe.html To summarise, blood clots aren't an "extremely rare" side effect in those who take the mRNA vaccine but they are an inevitable event due to spike proteins blocking the cappilaries in the lungs. These miscrscopic blood clots in the cappilaries aren't picked up by standard hospital scans and can only be tested for using a D-Dimer test. In his practice, Dr Hoffe found that 62% of his recently vaccinated patients tested positive for these microscopic clots. Once these microscopic clots damage the capillaries, they don't regenerate. It manifests in a condition called "Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension" (PAH) which untreated causes right-sided heart failure and kills most people within 3 years. My thoughts. I can see how this narrative will play out in the MSM. People start feeling a little out of breath during exercise, which is put down to a new strain of covid or long covid, when in fact they are symptoms of PAH due to microclots from jabs. With each booster jab, they further damage the cappilaries in their lungs and their condition worsens. Again, the MSM puts their symptoms down to a new strain of covid or long covid. No damage shows up on standard hospital scans. By the time the scientific community has identified the problem and the MSM has acknowledged it, its too late. The damage is irreversible and people are dying en masse. Depopulation agenda achieved.

Seems like you've still got a bee in your bonnet because I called you out for posting fake news.