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4 hours ago, theo102 said:
Isaiah 45
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I YHWH? and there is no Elohim else beside me; a just El and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am El, and there is none else.
23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.Romans 14
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Philippians 2
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Jesus is God in the flesh in the Christian faith and there are verses that support this. Obviously, the trinitarian doctrine is something you do not believe and I misread you when you said the Bible speaks of other 'gods' when really you was just meant Jesus. -
3 minutes ago, theo102 said:
It doesn't mean that, in Genesis 1:26 men and women were made in the likeness of Elohim, meaning that Elohim had a physical form like people do. Also the angel that Jacob wrestled was described as Elohim.
As Elohim is referenced in different ways. Do you have any other scripture where the God of the OT is different to the one in the NT? -
20 minutes ago, theo102 said:
Hard to say what the writer of Matthew thought, since the reference is to Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew refers to a virgin when the original text does not. Emmanuel is literally a reference to El.
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3 minutes ago, theo102 said:
It doesn't say that. Deuteronomy 6:4 doesn't even contain the word Elohim.
The word Elohim doesn't just mean one God though, It was reference to spiritual beings. The point is that the OT is clear about the one true God, and the the NT is in full support of that because it does not deny the OT one bit. -
11 minutes ago, theo102 said:
They don't. Judaism distinguishes between YHWH and Elohim, Christianity is confused about identity, and Islam focuses on Allah, although it acknowledges the involvement of other beings of lesser status.
No, Judaism will say YHWH is the Elohim of all Elohim. Christianity is pretty clear on it's monolithic faith, ie. the Trinitarian doctrine. And Allah in the Islamic faith is one God, you can argue that Allah is the God of the OT. -
2 minutes ago, theo102 said:
No, it means El is with us.
So in Matthew's eye's who is El? -
2 minutes ago, theo102 said:
Genesis 1:1 (God->Elohim) vs Matthew 1:23 (God->El from Emmanuel)
But matthew is not referring to a different God. Immanuel means God with us. -
3 minutes ago, theo102 said:
No, The OT starts talking about Elohim, but the NT starts talking about El.
Can you provide scripture, and do you also take into consideration that Judaism, Christianity and the Islamic faith believe in one God? -
2 minutes ago, theo102 said:
What "God" are you talking about? The Bible is a collection of books from different sources, and they don't refer to the same thing as "God".
Actually the Bible is just about one God. -
3 hours ago, Jode said:
Sorry - that wasnt the right link...this is the one showing the clear sidewalk
Just a thought. The video that everyone has seen with the two people recording on the path could of occured little after this witness's 'new' released footage. -
2 hours ago, peter said:
believe me I've seen the curvature of the horizon
I find that hard to believe. Only because I'm pretty sure we both observe the same thing with our eyes. -
10 hours ago, oz93666 said:
That bible verse was written over a thousand years ago ..."this generation did pass away " ...and none of it "took place"
Sorry are you saying that the covenant breakers in Matthew 24 didnt face judgement? -
1 minute ago, Heavenman said:
I do not not expect the son of man to come in the next hour.
Because the context of Matthew 24 was for his generation, the generation that crucified the their Messiah.
"Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." Matt 24:34 -
Just now, alexa said:
Matthew 24
44. So too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come.
That is why we should always be prepared, not because of the fear of end times but because He comes life a thief in the night (Thess 5:2) and our short lives can be taken anytime. -
On 5/27/2020 at 11:02 AM, Tinfoil Hat said:
But I've seen how some things predicted in Revelations match things that are occuring today.
The Book of Revelations is a very important book but many eschatological beliefs have been created out of this. The problem with these apocalyptic end times beliefs is that people put their personal lives right into scripture but when looking at the entire context of the Book of Revelations, it becomes clear that John's visions of salvation and judgement were for the people of 'HIS' time and not 'OURS'. The book does show correlations to what we are experiencing today and the same can be said on morals and ethics but think about how many denominations have given a date for end time prophecies only to find disappointed the following day; but followers/believers would have sold their assets ending up flat broke and for what? a bad interpretation?
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1 minute ago, MrA said:
Is there quite a large number of people who are becoming Christian again in the flat earth movement ?
Hard to say but from my own observation i would say half and half. though, I've seen a lot of flat earthers speak of a creator but not of the 3 main monolithic faiths. -
Just now, MrA said:
It seems as though its almost at a religious stage again with flat earth though
Ye I know but perhaps that's what the Copernicus heliocentric model was designed to do. To bring us away from an intelligent designer, a creator, a God that we should fear in some way.
I discovered the flat conspiracy 5 years ago and I was an atheist at the time. three years into the conspiracy i find myself believing in Jesus Christ which completely transformed my heart. -
2 minutes ago, MrA said:
If they faked putting a man on the moon does that mean the helio centric model is wrong ?
It would be a start, and worthy of skepticism, it will tell us the moon is not terra firma and it might make more sense that the moon is not 300,000 plus miles away
6 minutes ago, MrA said:I mean if peope can.disprove a moon landing does it also.mean gravity does not exist ?
It did get people questioning the theory of gravity and its formulas and equations.
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5 minutes ago, MrA said:
You cant just say " I have debunked the helio centric model of the solar system " and then have no working model as a replacement theory
And I dont think flat earthers are uncovering the truth at all
Its one thing to point out NASA fakery but it wasnt even NASA who worked out that the Earth is spherical and not flat
NASA fakery would debunk the heliocentric model in itself though? I understand that people will naturally require a replacement theory but I don't see why the fakery of NASA wouldn't be enough to start challenging the heliocentric model and that only.... -
Why do truthers presume that those who are exposing the truth ought to have a perfectly working flat earth model in hand to debunk the globe earth? No truther can possibly know the true shape and functioning of our earth, they would never have the finance, the resources, the power or influence for such a task. The problem is not discovering the flat earth model but discovering the lies of NASA, because they are the gatekeepers between this world and the vast forever expanding universe that we know as space.
Funny thing is, even flat earthers argue among each other about what flat model we live on.-
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