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*** The comment below and the quotes are not aimed at GR, I quoted the piece of the thread for logical reasons and clarity only. I saw that too. Alexa did not take the thread off topic. Another member started talking about flat earth, not Alexa. How fascinating, the same thing happened to me and funny enough on this very thread but much earlier. SE accused me of taking this thread off topic and assumed I was a troll based on ONE interaction (which had nothing to do with trolling) while in reality it was another member (Tinfoil Hat) who derailed the thread into the doom and gloom with her ridiculous, illogical and off topic angry replies. For the record, I hardly ever had interacted with Tin Foil on any subject prior to that and I had never said anything bad or derogatory about her or her opinions on any subject and any thread whatsoever. But that was dismissed by both her and SE and without verifying who actually initiated and than continued the angry venting and labels issuing and name calling, I and not Tinfoil was accused of being a troll. The fact that Tinfoil publicly confirmed her sudden dislike of me on another thread by expressing her hope that I was banned (in my total absence on that thread) went unnoticed. My point is that when a mod, on any forum accuses any member of thread derailing and trolling, the member overall PATTERN of behaviour and interaction and not a single reply (which may be misinterpreted or prove nothing) should be considered. I do not think that Tinfoil is a troll btw either, I recognise that she is terribly angry as she has no control over what happens on social scale around her and not just that. But this is none of my business. However, when she starts acting like I am her personal enemy (now on two threads), it becomes my business and ideally I would expect a neutral side in the form of a mod to tell her that she is crossing the line. If the mod fails to do it, then I sure will reply to such member to let them know their reactions are not appropriate. The fact is I am neither her friend nor her enemy, she doesn't know me, period. For reference sake: here I only submitted a reply to ink's legit and very on topic question he asked on this thread about what each of us expects from mods. I responded to this question and mentioned that this thread went as far off topic as it was possible, as an example. Tinfoil Hat took it from there with a number of angry remarks further derailing the thread. But it was me who was accused by SE of derailing the thread into 'heavy moods' with a consequent assumption of being a troll. I have never been accused of being a troll anywhere! And since the discussion on this thread has reached this point, I'll mention one more interesting detail. One day before my complaint on this thread about things going terribly off topic, I PM-ed SE and asked her/him about the situation, without making any public comments yet. Now, could SE tell me why s/he never replied and why I had to learn it from ink (ink, thanks btw), that the OP was asked about the situation here and said he didn't mind his thread being a blend of just about everything? I don't like what's going on here any more. And frankly I am no longer inspired to comment here. To sum it up, what was right on this forum has left. And what is left is not right. P.S. If Tinfoil wants another round of nonsense ride with what she thinks of me, please either PM me so we can get to the root cause of it or put me on your ignore list. I am ok with either option.

Accusation of trolling and lying requires evidence, otherwise it is your fantasy. I was not trying to blame you (or anyone else). Stating I was trying to blame you is what "you think" according to your comment above. About the uae. I said I saw it presented in a thread somewhere that someone had posted a screen shot or mentioned in their comment that the hackers were from UAE. DI team assumed they were most probably arabs (origin unknown) based on the video the supposed hackers made. Who made the video and who those hackers were and were the people on the video the actual hackers at all, no one knows. Who you really interacted with on gab, is also questionable -to keep it short. If you just believe everything those unidentified people on gab and whatsapp told you as true and accurate just because it matches your beliefs, that's a shame and yet it is your right to believe whatever you choose to. This conversation on this and any subject of yours is over. I have zero interest in interacting with people like you. Nothing personal. I just prefer other things and environments. I wish you all the best. I am in full awareness that any further discussion you generate will be between you and you, even when you make it look like you are having it with me or with anyone else for that matter. Good bye.

@Fluke and whoever else desires a vivid example from this very forum. If you go to The Crowhouse Community thread, you will find a few people whose mental health is taking a hit. I bet some of them will want to demonstrate their current issues on this thread too, for now rather obvious reasons. Which is fine, as I see this thread has enough experts to deal with them. Fluke, what you described in your OP, can be summed up in the following: You are an Infinite Being who is currently present in the finite game which makes you believe that you are a finite being playing an infinite game. See the trick? As long as your main reference point is the game and not your inner center and its core awareness, you will be (emotionally, mentally, energetically, etc) where your first post on this thread describes you are.

I didn't bring the argument, let's be clear about it. Neither did GR. Me and GR brought our opinions and our standpoints on the matter. Are we not allowed to have and submit them? Esp when we also submit all the supporting points and not just blatant statements? The mentined argument was initiated by the first person who angrily and unreasonably replied to my and then GR observation and opinion on the matter, and that 1st angry reply generator was NOT me, nor was it GR, it was Tinfoil Hat. Go back and check. It's this very thread. Speaking of being attentive and impartial. I initially refrained from interacting with her. She went on with her LABELING OF MY PERSONALITY which I NEVER have done to anyone here, Tinfoil Hat including. She then preceded with exaggerated labeling of GR stand and pov on the matter (which everyone, GR including is entitled to have). Then, as if it wasn't enough already, she said she would not reply to that situation any more. Then she changed her mind and did. And finally after I replied to Tinfoil Hat emotional tantrum with just 2 lines, she issued me another set of labels that she attached to my personality and not to my opinions, AGAIN, and of course without any supporting points. And I am the troll???? If Muir was here, he would show up on time and say his famous "play the ball, not the person". You should direct your questions and attention to Tinfoil and her replies. And it's high time you knew by now that it is my policy to focus on behaviour and not issue identity lables to anyone, sth that Tinfoil, unfortunately, doesn't practice. So, how is it again that I started the argument? If I say 1 thing to Tinfoil and she throws her multiple angry labels and remarks at me and GR, then who is really starting the argument? And for the last time, I am NOT against fun and humour, I am against it being in the wrong place. Just like I was against Messenger's and a couple of others serious, heavy and unrelated content being posted in the thread which was designed to be light, joyful and humorous, remember (blue pill people)? For the very same reason! When things are in their appropriate places it offers better orientation and makes it easy to find what you need.

I am with you on this one. Something is terribly off. Even some existing, used to be reasonable members, are acting out in the most bizarre way imaginable. I now visit some threads just to read, after 5 mins of reading, in total bemusement, I ask myself WTH is going on there?!?

Couldn't agree more. The exact reason why I periodically, quite seriously consider leaving the forum. Not because of the bickering by supposed adults but because it's indeed, like you said, 70% of it. If not more in some threads. And frankly, DIF is the last place where I expected to find such percentage.

I am not, SE. What made you think that way? What you really mean here is "you guess it is this way". If you really did, you would not be assuming I am a troll. You would know I am not.The reason you need time is because you DO NOT know and you don't bother investigating and finding any credible evidence for that. Initially I thought we only had a hacked forum and site. Today I've discovered the forum moderator perception is hacked as well. Probably, like a forum,- in a very professional manner. So, for now, we have a half functional forum that randomly but regularly disallows posting and blocks users and a rather lazy "not to be disturbed unnecessarily" moderator who can't tell the difference between a troll and a genuine user! And who randomly blocks his own awareness and assumes the member can not be trusted, their reputation is wrong (see Golden R. comment) and perhaps they have covert evil intentions so they could be banned. See? Just like the current forum software malfunction that can not tell the difference between the hacker and a member who doesn't just copy and paste stuff but produces the original, independent and creative thought? You know, Screaming, how about you give me facts and evidence that support your assuption, if you really have read more than 10 of my posts? Or have a private discussion with me, which I would welcome as I began to question the credibility of all of your statements and assumptions. Let me guess, you would not bother. Right? This blatant statement of yours: "Finder, you sound like troll,are you one?" without reference and evidence is nothing else but talking hot air. If this assuption is based on your experience, be exact and engaged, which one? Give me at least 3 different examples, will you? And then give me facts, i.e., concrete full, not abridged quotes of my replies and statements that confirm your experience. I'll leave to @GarethIcke with this. And as a suggestion based on the last night interaction with SE, I'd like to offer that we have a special pinned section on the forum where all active members would evaluate the performance of all moderators on a monthly basis along the following parameters: 1. Fairness 2. Being Impartial 3. Moderator's level of engagement in forum activity 4. Moderator's level of awareness of current forum issues 5. Moderator's knowledge of the members posts content or their willingness to acquire such knowledge. Each member votes only once, passive members/dormant accs are not invited to vote for obvious reasons.

I am still uncertain as to what made you feel that way. Especially in the light of the fact that I am the one who is being repeatedly condemned these days. It bewilders me. I have not intentionally insulted anyone, I have not displayed any unreasonable or aggressive behaviour towards anyone, I do have my independent opinion based on my experience and observation and facts that I can refer to and I stand my ground and prove the accuracy of my statements. What's your point? Now I am curious. Ink barged into my thread where I was all alone, replying to the last (the 3d), not the first response of another member. Without orienting himself in the situation, Ink interrupted my replying, accused me of the things that were unrelated to my activity and then two other members came to the thread accusing me of fighting with ink! I didn't even plan to see him (and the 2 others) on that thread, let alone interact or fight with him. Why don't you examine the entire interaction of mine that bother you to make sure your experience confirms and not contradicts the facts? I am the one who needs to be questioning the attitudes and true intentions of some members here! If I challenge you in some unprecedented ways, fine, then go ahead and delete my entire content and my profile as well.

I am not SE. What made you think that way?

The first sign of madness is talking to yourself. The second sign is replying. P.S. You know, I have been polite and balanced in my posts. If what I have said in them upsets or challenges you, just think of all the things I keep to myself.

Triggered? The impression did not come from my interaction with him but from watching his interaction with other forumites. That was informative enough for me. Many threads, different situations, different members. Certain actions and decisions of his on the forum were very informative as well. Glad we think alike in this regard. I too like to laugh, but in the appropriate place and time, like you know, when you go to a circus or attend a stand up comedy show. But when I go to a travel agency to book my trip or enquire about plane tickets, options and prices, if I visit or call a mobile store to get much needed info, I do not welcome a circus or a stand up comedy show there. Nothing personal, just common sense stuff. This second line, is this a question or a conclusion presented as a question? If the question is " how much time do you think they should spend on the forum?" Then my answer is: 1-3 hours per day would be sufficient given the fact that it's just 1 person. Clearly it doesn't work the expected way. Wholeheartedly agree with it. That is interesting. And you said it in regards to what? You have.

Indeed.

In short, I expect from them everything muir was. What they should do- everything muir did. AND I ESPECIALLY EXPECT FROM THEM to be present and vigilant when any forum discussion thread gets derailed or diluted by irrelevant posts and info. The topic of any thread must match the content of that thread. It's only convenient. Look what already happened here, on this thread. Clearly, the thread topic no longer matches the thread content. It started nicely with Gareth posting a question, the answers to which he is gonna pass to the webmaster. I came here for the info and I think this thread is important and relevant. I also wished to leave my suggestions and check if, perhaps, some people have already posted what I would be interested to see or use on the forum too. What I found instead was a mess. It starts nicely, first 1-3 pages, then it continues with porn outfit pic reposted a few times, a video and enacted by some members Monty Python scene, then it continued with exchange of all sorts of ideas absolutely unrelated to the topic of this thread.... Why??? WHERE WERE THE MODERATORS ??????????? It's was meant to be a great thread, which is currently in a state of mess, to go through 8 pages to find things that are actually relevant to its topic is a challenge. It will be a challenge to the webmaster too. And to Gareth. I think the continuous exchange of joking remarks polluted and derailed the entire thread. Now, for the visiting members and readers it's also difficult to sort through all the relevant and irrelevant posts. The humour oriented squad could go to the existing BC "Humor Thread" and carry on with their humorous discussion there, just the right place. I will be happy to visit that thread later. But here and now, I really would like to see, in an uninterrupted succession, what others have suggested and what else would be relevant to add. I expect the mods to be present when this kind of thread derailing (benign or not) is taking place and make it known IN TIME to all the participants who attempt to derail the thread (accidentally or on purpose) to stick to the topic. And yes, it's necessary to have more than 2-3 moderators. For just 2 of you it's difficult if not impossible to be present in all relevant places all at once.

The day before yesterday I saw a banner on utube saying that utube is about to implement new censorship tactic and policy which is: disallowing the embedding of utube videos on the blacklisted by them (utube management) sites. I guess DI.com is one of those sites. In the light of it, it would only be practical to allow embedding of any relevant audio or video from any site, not only bitchute.