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Oakwise

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  1. For anyone that's interested, the idea of Moses being connected to Akhenaten goes back a long way. Sigmund Freud wrote a book called Moses and Monotheism (1939). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_and_Monotheism
  2. Charlie Veitch. Now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. Arch turncoat he was. Went over to the states for a TV show, messed about with some lego bricks, and came home to declare that 9/11 wasn't an inside job after all. I thought he was pretty dumb to do that, a man of low integrity. But I don't think he quite deserved the extremely savage attacks he received from some of the truth community. I think someone hacked his website as well. He used to have a group of disciples that followed him around as he did his street antics (he copied another bloke who used to protest in clever, creative ways). He also used to harangue the public via a megaphone. I remember one of Charlie's disciples was a podgy Gnome-like man who used to skip alongside him, occasionally looking up at him with adoring eyes. Sometimes it looked like Charlie was trying to shake him off, like he was embarrassed. After the turncoat incident I never bothered keeping up with the story. I remember thinking that the word 'veitch' could be etymologically related to the word 'vetch', which is a type of pea commonly fed to sheep. To me that kind of acted as a full stop on the sorry affair. As for Silkie, she was much loved in the truth community. A Vera Lynn type character. But I never bothered to see what happened to her. Occasionally one hears her name mentioned in connection with Big Brother Watch, which seems like a toothless organisation. Got me reminiscing about how this forum used to be. It used to be incredibly lively and productive. Now it's not even a shadow of its former self. Sign of the times I guess. Kudos to you people keeping it alive.
  3. On matters such as these we must defer to the wisdom of the poets. With Housman we say, Malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to man
  4. That reminds me of the ideas Socrates explored on the day of his execution (Plato, Phaedo). Some of his friends were gathered around him, upset that their revered instructor was going to die. So he was trying to put their mind at rest by assuring them that the true lover of wisdom (philosopher) is one that has spent his life preparing for death as upon leaving the body he would be free to pursue wisdom (knowledge) in its purest form. See the following passage (Socrates in Plato's Phaedo): So it appears that these ideas are very old. It's not surprising that much Gnostic thought is connected to neo-Platonism. Indeed, a fragment of Plato's Republic was found among the Nag Hammadi texts. To punctuate this post, perhaps something pithy is required. Hear the words of Leo Tolstoy: Life is a dream, death is an awakening.
  5. But does everyone who promotes that theory have the same view as you? I've heard some people say it's all a trap and this world has been specially created to trap us (certain gnostic ideas). If someone genuinely believes that, then why are they still here? If they truly knew it, then they can leave any time and go play in eternity. I posit that really they don't truly have confidence in their own beliefs, and really have other motives for promoting these ideas etc. And let's follow this fear of trickery. So how do you identify genuine conscious beings (spirits etc.) from the fake? Is there some sort of ID system? Are we completely stupid when we leave our bodies and have no ability to recognise? We have no knowledge and wisdom? That ignorance continues into the next world? And how do we know that people are tricked into coming back by imposters since they're now dead and can't relay their story? Many of them may have decided not to go back, and their loved ones were cool with that, and they're now hanging out in the fields of eternity having a jolly good old time. I suppose we could refer to NDEers (which are basically the proof that consciousness exists beyond the physical body), some of which say they had to come back because it wasn't their time, that these 'loving beings' guided them etc., and they had a life review etc. You could say they were tricked. But how do we know? Maybe they had chosen to come here? Maybe you can learn while incarnating here, without memory of previous existence. It doesn't automatically prove that it is a trap. ETA: Also, if many chose to come here 'during this time' as you put it, does that mean they came here to help fix this world? If so, does that mean at some point this world wasn't a trap? And how do we know that coming here to help isn't actually part of the trap? You're persuaded to come here and help when in reality it's an insoluble problem and you end up like poor old Sisyphus? Just food for thought.
  6. The people pushing the idea of it being a trap seem contradictory to me. If it's a trap, and it's not worth being here, then why are you still here? If you genuinely believe that, then leave, resist the persuasion of the so-called tricksters and go on existing as an eternal conscious being frolicking in the fields of eternity. I know the reason: They don't truly believe it, they still have doubts; it's just that they can speak about it very forcefully. However, we don't get access to their inner lives, all those conflicting thoughts and emotions that they hide from the world. Or perhaps they're saying that there is a reason to be here? If there's a reason to be here then naturally it can't be wholly a trap. It's possible that conscious beings do choose to be here for some undefined reason. Personally, I won't be coming back to this crazy world. It's insanity. However, I feel it's not my time to leave yet. I have unfinished business.
  7. God Appears & God is Light To those poor Souls who dwell in Night But does a Human Form Display To those who Dwell in Realms of day - William Blake, Auguries of Innocence
  8. @EnigmaticWorld Same here, mate. I would prefer pleasant dialogue, and by 'pleasant' I don't mean the interlocuter agreeing with me. Just frank discussion done in that polite spirit. If I'm honest, I would love to have dialogue in the spirit of Plato's Socrates. Not necessarily in terms of content, but in the sense of discussing ideas cordially, even when we are in disagreement. I like the idea of being able to disagree, but still remaining friendly. This transcendence of ego really appeals to me. That we are more than the ideas in our heads. But having said that, I still stand by my previous sentiments: The bad elite are trying to position their opposition (the truth / freedom movement / community) as crazy right-wing extremists. I won't budge from that because it is of the utmost importance. Don't worry about the name calling in the other thread. Water off a ducks back. Tit for tat. Enjoy the rest of your evening and we'll pick this up another day, on better terms.
  9. @EnigmaticWorld Okay. You've handled yourself with dignity and control. I respect that. But I'm a little bit drunk right now, so I'll return for frank and open discussion when sober. However, being drunk doesn't mean I don't have the courage of my convictions. I stand by what I say in general: The strategy is to paint the resistance as right-wing, race-focused extremists. And I have read your other posts on nationalism, and have formulated counter-arguments or lines of enquiry based on my own reason and conscience. So let's be at peace. And when the time is right discuss these matters rationally.
  10. I don't think you get strategy / tactics. You're opponent's strategy is to paint you a certain way so as to discredit you in the minds of the ordinary population and therefore justify certain actions. They've even seeded material into this sphere with the strategic objective of people taking the bait and making the rest of the movement look bad. If you can't see that then, well, flipping heck. Get real, dude. Your opponents are destroying you right now, and you're helping them take the rest of us down with you. You're happy to sink into the mire while spouting your pseudo-intellectual ideas. Intellect is reasoning. You make posts all the time showing off your 'reasoning' on various political matters e.g. nationalism, racialism etc. But your reasoning is for show, it's superficial, it's gold plated. Superficial, gold-plated reasoning is essentially pseudo. Therefore, you are a pseudo-intellectual. You don't have to directly claim to be an intellectual to be a pseudo-intellectual.
  11. You are a classic pseudo-intellectual. You really are, mate. Hmm, our opponent's strategy is based on making us look like crazy right-wing, race-obsessed extremists. I know, I'll doing everything possible to prove them right. You really are a dim-wit if you can't see that. You really are one of those half-baked intellectuals, useful idiots.
  12. I don't like to post on this forum anymore. Observation #1: The elite are trying to paint 'truthers' as racist, right-wing extremist nut jobs. Observation #2: Some people on here make racist right-wing extremist nut job posts. Observation #3: Those posts largely go unchallenged by the so called 'awake'. So you're playing right into the hands of those you oppose. This forum is dead as far as I'm concerned. You got no back bone. You'll happily let these idiots tarnish you, drag you down, walk all over you like doormats. You can pretend all you like, pretend that's not the case. But really it is the case. It's documented for everyone to see. You allowed these brainwashed idiots to ruin the credibility of the truth movement. So goodbye. I don't want to be associated with right-wing crackpots and useful idiots with their pseudo-intellectual ramblings.
  13. You really are a bunch of pseudo-intellectual dim-wits. Go look up the Dunning-Kruger effect. That's you in a nutshell. Honestly, you're really thick and you're playing right into the hands of the elite. You honestly think your half-baked spoutings are going to convince intelligent people? You are a danger to justice, truth and freedom. You make the truth community look like a bunch of stupid right-wing extremists. Why do you pretend to be more intelligent than what you are?
  14. ^Obsessing over skin colour. You're making us look like crazy racists. People are dying from the experimental jab. Trying to save lives but we're being smeared as race-obsessed right winger anti-vaxxers. You care more about your racial egoism than you do about justice. Seriously, they trying to paint us as white supremacist nut jobs. Meanwhile, little kids are being fucked up with the jab. Get real FFS. I don't care about your fragile racial ego. You're just as bad as the mainstream in my opinion. Stop being a pseudo-intellectual and start reasoning properly.
  15. ^ The guy above (Skitz) is a prime example of one those pseudo-intellectual / average IQ folks who got suckered into the Gladio C trap, and now he's making us look like a bunch of crazy right-wing extremists, playing right into the hands of the ruling oligarchy who want to paint us 'truthers' as right-wing extremists. Come on guys, have some self-respect. Don't let fools drag you down with their stupidity.
  16. That's been going on for decades. All they've done is pour ink into already muddy water. All kinds of bullshit has been seeded, and those without crit. thinking skills jump on the various bandwagons and it becomes their treasured 'thing'. Like, for example, all the Hitler-lovers. Hitler fanboy material was seeded into the truth-sphere with the full knowledge that a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals and gullible, average IQ folk will buy it uncritically, and then go out and proselytise about it like a bunch of supercilious preachers. The strategic aim is to position the truth / freedom movement as a bunch of crazy right-wing extremists, neo-Nazis etc. And boy is it working to a certain degree! They walked straight into that one! And the sad thing is, they can't even see it. They genuinely believe they're more intelligent, more informed than what they actually are. The next phase is Gladio C: Right-wing terrorism driven by 'dangerous conspiracy theories' as a way to discredit alternative media etc. And you've just played right into the oligarchy's hands. However, it's not too late to abandon the foolishness.
  17. Albert Camus wrote a great piece called The Myth of Sisyphus. Ultimately, no matter how futile, rebellion against the world is worth it.
  18. Sham battle for public consumption. East Vs West is for dolts.
  19. Aha, that's the antithesis. So I'll go with a synthesis. Engineered conflict combined with the emergence of the biosecurity state to create the eventual conditions from which a World State can emerge, underpinned by technocratic and transhuman ideology.
  20. Yeah mate, totally agree. That's why I said later that's it's down to people's own individual conscience, imagination and reason. But I still think there needs to be a bit more action. Positive action. That's just my opinion - not telling anyone what to do or anything. Was just speaking from the heart, really, after a few beers. Peace to you.
  21. Ah dude, you really think occasionally getting drunk puts you in service to 'Satan'? Really? lol Sorry to have offended you. I hope you live out the rest of your days with piety and compassion. And I hope never to be on the receiving end of that righteous wrath of yours! Peace to you forever more.
  22. Cheers, dude! I really feel the love, the tough love! Though I actually made it to ten bottles of old fashioned English ale that night (no cheap lager for me!). To quote Housman, Malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to man I do agree, and earlier I did say that discussion does play an important role. Especially good quality, stimulating discussion -exchanging ideas etc.. But it's like learning a musical instrument: If you only ever study theory and never practise, you'll never get good on the instrument. And if you only ever study theory and practise technique, but never just simply play music, you'll never be a musician. So I guess the point I was clumsily making is that it's got to be balanced with some kind of action. I don't think in the history of our kind there has been so much talking, but so little action. And don't get me wrong, I include myself in all that. Not putting myself on some kind of pedestal. Was just speaking from the heart, really. At the very least, I hope those drunken rhetorical flourishes stimulated some kind of thought. Peace.
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