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3 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
The association of the colour red with prostitutes, Jews, and the Devil links to the idea that the physical world ('sinful flesh') is tainted. Physical energy is recycled karma, IMO.
Note also that Jesus is Jewish and his blood is red.
Hers som thing i wrote on my fb log a while ago inconjuction with linking to that clip on my fb page
Red is also equated with lifeforce which that horsecrap bible says is the blood. One of Eve's epithet in that same horsecrap bible was "the mother of all living beings. In horseshit kabbalah you could say shes binah as the supernal mother or malkuth as the inferior mother. Binahs sefirotic expression lies in duality - hence it would be more fitting to call her the mother of all desires. You cannot desireth something which you already have , to desireth something you gotta live under the hypnotic and illusionary powers of time. Red was always a colour of conflict, sex and war.
That is not to say that ein sof or ein is equated with existing outside the matrix becuse it doesnt but thats a bit complex to explain.
Once you know about the power and the designated meaning that the human mass collective have given to the creators of the Bible or all other occult texts you must immediately redefine the meaning of everything that reinforces their power over you , deny the meanings and implications , dont let them define your reality. You have to reverse engineer the spells targeting your subconsiousness
For example for me theres no binah , theres no superior mother or inferior mother theres no ein sof and so on and so forth etc...
We need to understand that another soul complex is using the human soul memory complex by manipulating it into creating the reality they want - a simulation where humans exist as mere slaves to that other soul complex
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2 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
The association of the colour red with prostitutes, Jews, and the Devil links to the idea that the physical world ('sinful flesh') is tainted. Physical energy is recycled karma, IMO.
Note also that Jesus is Jewish and his blood is red.
Another important remark is that whilst merging with the time god you have only merged with the archetypes of the time god , you havent become a time god , as evident by all the hierophants out there who still struggles in the physical world, the superego of the reptilian soul complex decides how they want to express themselves in an initiate that have merged with the time god not the initiates themselves!
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2 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
The association of the colour red with prostitutes, Jews, and the Devil links to the idea that the physical world ('sinful flesh') is tainted. Physical energy is recycled karma, IMO.
Note also that Jesus is Jewish and his blood is red.
Red and blue are also the colours of fiercy sun and moon respectively or semen and viral gynergy of females , the occult sex magic act that Unites the masculine and feminine principle in synergy is also that which reinforce cycles of time or illusion , just becuse you have incorporated the principle of Maya within yourself and stripped it out of its own autonomous existence doesnt mean you're freed of the matrix and its implications , it just means you have merged with or identified with the time god and the timegod knows only time he doesnt know Whats outside the matrix.
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1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
I don't revere this Creator, who has messed up, I conclude, giving birth to carnivorous animals amongst other mistakes.
A but of incentive or motivation to see trough the lie of initiation ...
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15 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
The Creator of this realm (who is collectively all of us lifeforms) is symbolised by the Mercurius, IMO - the ouroborous snake eating itself because there's nothing else to eat, not if you wish to dodge the karma that results when you interact with other minds.
One last piece of advice ( my last message to you as i dont roam this bullshit forum frequently
The serpent soul complex can animate all of its creations
Both animate and inanimate, it plays itself trough itself - theres your oroborous for you
Imo you also need to see how your "creator" is linked to the reptilians in the underworld becuse he can be used as an reptilian avatar or mask that is entirely controlled by the reptilians from there.
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4 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
The Creator of this realm (who is collectively all of us lifeforms) is symbolised by the Mercurius, IMO - the ouroborous snake eating itself because there's nothing else to eat, not if you wish to dodge the karma that results when you interact with other minds.
Belief what you want , i dont want to tell you what to belief , becuse i can already tell that you are not ready to see. Im done.
All of these icons/avatar or impersonalised ideas/forces/archetypes are all interconnected and inseperate from the reptilian hive mind, feeding them or identifying with them
Does two major things amongst many others .
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Allowing the serpents usurping your body mind and spirit by gradual or complete merging with the reptilians soul memory complex
2. Giving up your right to see you as you want to see "you " becuse my friend i tell you the truth and nothing but the truth when i say that you are an allknowing and omnipresent force.
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On 9/27/2024 at 2:28 AM, Grumpy Grapes said:
Other divine dinners are the 'Last Supper' and the alchemical Elixir of immortality.
The alchemical writer Mylius said that if Mercurius [the alchemical Mercurius] were to be purified, then Lucifer would fall from heaven.
Mercurius is like Jesus; it is the first and the last.
Mercurary is the universal mind seen from the perspective of occultissm , as a Messenger of the gods he needs to interact with all of them , trough alchemy hes on par with thoth, Jesus , Lucifer ,
But for me he doesnt even exist, all of these impersonal energies and archetypes that could also become personalized or individualised are nothing more than programmed ideas that the mass collective subconsiousness have been fooled to uphold and thereby giving them live or momentum to exist and exert influence upon the mass hive mind.
From my perspective theres two levels of karma one more damned than the other
Normal cause and effect = duality or space time
Or religious karma laced with the idea of sin
Which is connected to a spiritual fall and the idea of worshipping something as Supreme as a way to strip away your own power.
I have come to realise that atleast 95 % of all occultissm save that of some few spiritual principles are nothing more than then multidimensionell spells that have ZERO basis on any objective reality and are entirely dependent on the beliefs of the mass collective subconsiousness
The only way occultissm can serve you is to learn how it effects or manipulates your reality so you can take back the power you have given it so you can internalise it within yourself
Maybe not the answer you want to hear ..
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On 3/13/2024 at 12:10 AM, indigo solo said:
Hello SuperstarNeilC
It is amazing (and chilling) when I find someone who speaks about a topic as I would do. I've just watched the video and haven't read any answer, because it is predictable, what are they telling you.
From the unhappy 2020 year, I learned what a PsyOp is, and I have realized all history have been flooded in PsyOps. Related to this thread, I'll tell you one of the oldest PsyOps in Earth: You have to love life, love this world and love God. They tell you this everywhere, every time, from the cradle to the tomb. Those who don't fit this requirement, have been ostracized and rejected in many ways all time. They have been tagged as not well adapted to life, weak people, examples to don't follow... I mean suicidals, depressed people and similar. n the other hand, those who chellenged the system, were turned after their deaths, in idols, so they turbned part of the system they were against. Even Jesuschrist fits this phenomenon.
If you dispute one of this very-sacred principles of this oldest PsyOps ever, you'll be rejected. That's why I've read not any answer.
I've thought by myself a lot of the points you've exposed, so it is senseless to repeat them.
Icke himself is one who said once he loved this world. He did it in a conference. Well, I'm 41 and I have never loved this world. It looks like optimized for psychos and a prison or torture chamber for empaths and compassionate people. Here you have a paradox, as in many topics, because perception of people is different it always prevails. So people won't be objective. If they have a great life, they will be afraid of looking ungrateful, so they will say their lives are a blessing. In the other hand, people who live a shitty life, will say this world is a punishment.
«Ordinary people take things of life as a blessing or as a damn. Warriors take everything as a challenge». Don Juan Matus.
I've said in older posts, that both fortunate and disgraced people are in the same boat. In a trap. It works like a banking system. They lend you money, and seize your entire lifetime. In the higher picture, karma is the same. Is main currency in the beyond.
«You had a shitty life, 'cause you were purging your karma. Now you are karma free and will have a life to make whatever you want. Enjoy!»
«You made everything you wanted in your life, so you're full of karma. Is time to pay, so live a shitty-life».
And this two-step cycle repeats for the eternity. That's why is so ridiculous to envy a fortunate person or to shame a disgraced one. We're in the same trap-cycle.
One of the most influential books I've read, is Alien Interview. Author: Mathilda O'Donnell McElroy. Of course, the first and only way-out for detractors will be «That book is a scam». It explains how this world is a prison for an empire composed of snake like (because of their behavior) spirits. So, that explain why people who aren't like a serpent have a very bad time here. We're in prison, for crimes like being compassionate, creative, and the worst of all (for such empire), being a free thinker.
Dolores Cannon collects a lot of past life-time records of situations like this. Being compassionate, creative or free thinker (in other worlds), will put you for eternity in this shit-hole we call earth, reincarnating once and again for eternity, with the memory deleted. Cannon doesn't question the nature of these manifestations, that are clearly psychopathic. An entire book about it would be keepers of the garden, that tells the story of a guy called Phil, who had a shitty-shitty life, because he tried to help a civilization in other part of the universe by teaching them magic. It is very similar to the God we were taught, who forbids astrology, magic and believe in reincarnation. Other book tells the story of a woman who was in charge of a young civilization, and she was a female entity. Full of compassion, she showed the civilization how to relate the weather with the cultures. Their superiors (look, a hierarchy) weren't happy because that wasn't the time to do that and abandoned her in an asteroid until she starved and died. The punishment: A live in... guess... ¡here, the Earth! A lifetime with physical pain would respond to what your superiors considered a fatal error in a past life-time. Such pain would be a reminder. A reminder in a system in which they erase your memory. ¡F*ck!
One of the worst Past-time regression records I've read, was the experience of a woman in a war. She was hiding, terrorized of soldiers, because she had a baby. But soldiers found her and killed her baby. Cannon commented that she predicted what the Superior I (called in the books, the subconscious) was about to say: That she, in other life-time, would be one of the soldiers. ¡Fuck again! Lovely God, Bollocks! To be the victim and the killer, to learn. And Always with the memory erased.
I have my own life-experiences that make me sure this life is a punishment for horrible (horrible for those who manages the prison) crimes.
I'm agree also with you about, god of the bible is narcissit.
Real laws that guide this world are psychopathic, for example, the Mathew effect. Or the 'sins' repaid for seven generations. The knowledge is forbidden. Monotheism is narcissistic. Languages were made to confuse us.
0k.
See you soon.
Refreshing, i sense a spirit with a deep yearning to be free , dont let anyone compromise your hearts desire and im sure it will serve you well in the coming years. Keep pushing, keep thinking, keep yearning and thank you for posting , you made my day as i saw a bit of myself trough some of the points you raised.
Jiddu khrisnamurti said theres no measure of health to adjust to a profoundly sick society
Jed McKenna said its not about becoming true its about becoming false so all thats left is true
I can see that you live by those principals
Best
Riad
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When we elevate another force to the level of gods without sin on a collective level we are litterary giving them a getting out of jail card. Its basically the will of the collective consiousness that they manipulate to their advantage by making it work in their favour and to do that they have to con us to perceive them or their Masters in according to the god archetype. The queen of england has the power to bestowe or cancel knighthood on people, and as such she has the power to remove or reinstate karma on certain Knights of the realm.
Having said that , theres still some very subtle and complex principles to how this operate that is beyond my level of understanding , they cant just go about killing anyone , if they kill the wrong person , they will receive karma. If they need to get rid of such an individual they will just hire someone that is ignorant of spiritual laws.
Just as the the middle men agents to a luciferic force con us so they can represent us on a physical level ( by making us vote them in power ( voting is free will consent)
Their Masters con us to vote them in on a spiritual level
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On 12/26/2023 at 3:40 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:
He wrote on his website:
"Karma does not exist except as encoded algorithms in the simulation that we know as the ‘laws of physics’. Karma is a key part of the trap. It is because ‘karma’ is encoded in the demonic simulation, which we call the human world, that demons and their gofers can override the ‘karmic consequences’ of what they do."
He says that "karma does not exist..." then proceeds to give karma an existence by describing it as "encoded algorithms".
How does he know that the 'demons' and 'gofers' can "...override the 'karmic consequences' of what they do." ???
I don't think they can do so. Are the demons AI algorithms themselves?
For me, karma (aka cause-and-effect) has to be real in all dimensions of reality because there has to be a universal mechanism that allows all of us to interact meaningfully with each other, otherwise it would be chaos. There needs to be a cosmic mirror that allows us all to accurately pass judgment on oneself and each other.
Our crazy holographic realm is a distorted mirror (like a funfair hall of mirrors), but it is a mirror nevertheless.
The evil Queen in Snow White doesn't like it when her magic mirror tells her a truth that she doesn't like. The Rebel Creator of this realm also doesn't like karma/truth/consequences.
Karma is nothing more than sets of agreements between one or many soul collective groups that exist either in a exclusive form within a soul collective group or alternatively in a conceptual relationship between two or more collective groups and as such it could be said of it that its nothing more than a matter of principle that can only function in a programmed simulation, you could liken any of those groups to a minor doll within a Russian doll , the outermost most biggest doll penetrates and encapsulates them all without having to enter into any conceptual agreements with any of the smaller dolls . The biggest doll is the unified field of all that exists viewed from the perspective of non temporality.
What we term reality/simulation or universe/alternative universes consists of layers upon layers of agreements and what layer you decide to inhabit dictates the rules of engagements.
An agreement is essentially a compromise of the whole
You can only agree by discerning and when you discern you decide to cling unto various sets of potentials at the exclusion of experiencing all of them at once
What we perceive as creation is actually the absence of a creation and what we perceive as the absence of creation is actually bigger than the agreements/creations becuse its represented by the unified field of all potentials in an unbroken unit before they decide to split into agreements
It is only by adhering to the layer of the biggest doll that you can be truly free.
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18 hours ago, loady said:
Lets draw an parralell between the unified field of consiousness and colour trough an analogy for sake of simplicity.
Lets equate the colour green with the unified field of non duality or whatever you want to call it.
Before the dualistic perspective could occur
The colour green/ unified consiousness
Existed as holistic whole , there was no such thing as dualistic concepts of good and right becuse the unified consiousness is all encompassing as all potentials exist in it not only in the expression of what makes up their highest forms but also in an unbroken unit.
Now within this holistic whole of potentials there resides within it the potential that enables us to forget what is to experience the whole by locking out certain potentials in favour of clinging unto a limited field of potentials expressed trough certain modes of Outlooks/perspectives/experiences
The allknowing and allbeing state representing the colour green
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Duality or the limited field of potentials representing good and evil as the colour that makes up green ( blue and yellow)
Now within the simulation the colours that makes up duality would cease to exist when they reunit to make green and as such they take on a quality of expression that is neither yellow nor blue ( neither good and evil but always adherent to good as you will see later on )
So when the lower expressive forms of the potentials that makes duality possible reverts back into its highest forms of expressions in non duality the lower potential expression that signifies evil itself cease to exist . It could only exist in a conceptual relationship that has limitation as an field of experience.
The allknowing and all being state Is beyond bliss , nothing exist outside of it and theres nothing that is not part of it.
Sure we could say we agreed to enter this simulation as a sort of holiday but when humanity has been entrapped in the simulation for thousand of lifetimes unable to break free from its bondage then arent we only justifying our own misery and the misery of others?
And if that isnt the ultimate evil then im red assed baboon.
Thats why i absolutely abhore luciferians, morally corrupt filth!!!
So bottom line
Even if the absence of good doesnt exist beyond the limitations of the simulation , the greatest evil will always signify not being able to break free from the simulation and being trapped in the simulation for several lifetimes not knowing our arse from our elbows .
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On 4/2/2024 at 12:13 AM, Mr H said:
Interesting.
My take on it fwiw.
We can always view these things from two perspectives. The only real perspective, that is consciousness. And from the illusiory human perspective.
As consciousness, I have not found any purpose to experience. Only it is. Because, I can. Why not? There are no human moralities. everything is fair game. Why? Because it's a fricking illusion. Don't matter if he dies, bob takes over the world etc etc. If you load up a playstation game, how many shits do you give about morals, or the characters in the game. ZERO SHITS.
But this perspective can be cold and easily misunderstood....
From the human perspective there are whole multitude of purposes. Consciousness (you) can create any purpose they wish. It may make the illusion worse or better, maybe special purpose or boring purpose - that will be subjective.
As for being different as a human experiencer vs other experiencers. Oh yeah totally feel that.
Lets draw an parralell between the unified field of consiousness and colour trough an analogy for sake of simplicity.
Lets equate the colour green with the unified field of non duality or whatever you want to call it.
Before the dualistic perspective could occur
The colour green/ unified consiousness
Existed as holistic whole , there was no such thing as dualistic concepts of good and right becuse the unified consiousness is all encompassing as all potentials exist in it not only in the expression of what makes up their highest forms but also in an unbroken unit.
Now within this holistic whole of potentials there resides within it the potential that enables us to forget what is to experience the whole by locking out certain potentials in favour of clinging unto a limited field of potentials expressed trough certain modes of Outlooks/perspectives/experiences
The allknowing and allbeing state representing the colour green
And
Duality or the limited field of potentials representing good and evil as the colour that makes up green ( blue and yellow)
Now within the simulation the colours that makes up duality would cease to exist when they reunit to make green and as such they take on a quality of expression that is neither yellow nor blue ( neither good and evil but always adherent to good as you will see later on )
So when the lower expressive forms of the potentials that makes duality possible reverts back into its highest forms of expressions in non duality the lower potential expression that signifies evil itself cease to exist . It could only exist in a conceptual relationship that has limitation as an field of experience.
The allknowing and all being state Is beyond bliss , nothing exist outside of it and theres nothing that is not part of it.
Sure we could say we agreed to enter this simulation as a sort of holiday but when humanity has been entrapped in the simulation for thousand of lifetimes unable to break free from its bondage then arent we only justifying our own misery and the misery of others?
And if that isnt the ultimate evil then im red assed baboon.
Thats why i absolutely abhore luciferians, morally corrupt filth!!!
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In my opinion they are carrying waterbuckets. In this instance the waterbuckets represents the "vessels" or the "initiate"and the water represents the "blood" and the "gods" holding the vessel trough an an encompassing grip represents that they are sealing or stamping the initiate with their supremacy which enables them supreme control of the vessel/ initiate that the blood is offered to. Its symbolic of the Illuminati bloodlines that the serpents breed to act on their behalf as per the ancient maxim "divine right to rule".
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15 minutes ago, BMarley said:
In that context depop (and singularity) will only serve to entrap and enslave us more. And I think that is correct. That is the plan of the elites.
you are absolutely right, another thing that the great matthew delooze said was something to the effect that when those from the unseen updates their technology they also update ours to ensure both are compatible with eachother so they can be utilised as a mean to exercise greater control of the population.
in the animatrix (the animated matrix movie) it said that the machines were built in elohims image , meaning they can be possessed by their creators.
matthew delooze also said that technology can be possessed just like humans.
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i think that depopulation is a mask for end times mass sacrifices of humans. humans dont escape the nets of the matrix just becuse they leave their physichal body behind, their spirits and minds are still trapped under the many nets and trappings that awaits humans when they make the transition.
matthew deloozze said it best : we are born in ignorance, we transition to another dimension in ignorance and then we are tricked to come back here in ignorance.
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1 hour ago, novymir said:
And who is your "high priest" that has you wrapped around his little finger? Matthew Delooze? And what is your governing principle? Fear?
Now the question is; will you deny and take offense, or will you recognize a liability that you are operating with?
there was once a time whence i loved matthew delooze on level terms with the love i have for my own mother during that time i would have taken a bullet for him without bathing an eylelid. but to answer your question i was never intiatiated into any esoteric teachings by adhering to any priest-disciple relationship. i owe matthew delooze a great deal for raising my awareness level to stupendious heights but i dont worship him nor the forces he represents - simply becuse i can never be sure if they are trying to entrapp souls or free them. im sure matt is genuine - but i cannot ever be sure about the forces that sent him. any prophet that is not on level terms with those he represents are liable to be manipulated , do i think thats the case with matt, i really hope not - but since im not sure..
im destined to be a leper until i find my way out of this shithole.
i will never bend over for any forces - priests,"fraudulent holy spirits nor any fraudlent supreme beings.
and that is becuse very deep down i know that im all knowing and all being and noone can ever convince me otherwise...
so whether i will find my escape and breaktrough in this live time or thousand lifetimes from now , rest assured i will break the schakles that holds me in bonds
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1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:
Not as far over as you, given what is coming out of your mouth.
Regards
DL
enjoy your slave status and the nigging little notion in the back of your head that constantly reminds you that some high preist have you wrapped around his little finger..
jump simon...jump
slave
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8 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:
Only the uninformed will not know that there are more than one Jesus archetype shown in the bible.
If you cannot recognize the esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Jesus, then keep adoring the genocidal, homophobic and misogynous prick who is to bring another mass murder with his Armageddon.
I will accept your critique, when you elevate your knowledge base and cure your mind of any stupid supernatural beliefs and raise your moral sense to know a demiurge when you see one.
That of actually quote and critique like an adult would.
Regards
DL
it was the same with horus in egypt., that doesnt change who created them and what they represent. there was diffrent archetypes of horus such as horus the elder and horus the younger to name a few , all archetypes and icons and their associated principles and energies steem from the same order out of chaos mythologies - their source and line of mystical descend orginated from chaos and and as such they are all part of a n unbroken mystical lineage tree - no diffrent than than all intiates who are stupid to realise that not only is sacrifying themselves in a symbolical death - the highest reverens and worship it also intiates them to be controlled by forces they can never ever know fully about.
all archetypes and icons of gods are in their esoteric aspects connected to mystery rites" for alchemical purposes. these iconic mystery bodies of god that is put in use in mystery schools are all a programmed insertions within the collective consiousness of mankind - for normal folks they lie latent as inactive - but for the one who has activated one of the many "higher ranked" mystical bodies of gods - they are used to rule over time. and the god use these as he pleases to exert influence in accordance to a prefixed timewheel that is ever cyclical - this simulated reality can in turn be manipulated by deeper chaos forces in anyway they see fit in the natural world just as they can cantrol the same innerland scape of all the initiates who have agreed to submit to them and yes including "gnostic christian"
its important to realise that we are dealing with various levels of the reptilian spirit that expresses itself in forms of multitude trough the iconic and codified god archetypes of the world . these spiritual reptilians operates from the chaos/underworld realmyou could say that the intiates becomes small cog wheels inside as massive timewheel/machine which fate lies in the hands of the clock turner and the clockturners fate lies in the hands of the reptilians forces in the underworld.all initiates who choose to die a mystical death and be be reborn by the holy spirit - becomes part of the the same mystical heritage family tree.
its the same with modern masons who are intiated trough the archetype of hiram abiff/ariff
indeed they are intiatied in darkness and led trough darkness to the light which can be seen as form of illumination on one level of the intrepetation on another level that very same concealed darkness symbolise that they will ever be lead and scammed by the very same darkness to live in cyclical order under concealed cirucmstances unbeknownst to them -that is also where their faith comes in - becuse they are all intiated trough the blindfold placed on thier eyes.
you are no diffrent a pathetic patsie who can ba manipulated by manipulative forces in any way they see fit and they can only do that becuse you bent over for the high preists who gave you your englightenment - they can destroy you anytime they want by fucking with your secret vibrational names and when they say jump you jump like a submissive slave who have been tricked to believe that he´s free.
cleary you did not comprehend my prior posts.
you lack real insight .
ohh and not only do you worship you are a worshipful sucker worshipping with every living breath by automatical default through your secret vibrational names/blood. they sing out worshipful frequencies .
as i said...
some people are destined to be enslaved..
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4 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:
I began with stating that we do not worship, but I guess you missed it.
The supernatural is for the stupid.
Regards
DL
no i didnt miss it. you dont know your theology good enough and you contradict yourself left and right , a bandwagoon jumper who speaks negtively about jesus and his father one day and postively about jesus and his father another day you dont know what you want to be and you cannot argue well using your own thoughts you have to rely on scriptures which you dont even understand.
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2 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:
The last thing a Gnostic Christian is is a slave or one who worships anything.
We are esoteric ecumenists and perpetual seekers.
You put me down as agnostic in your post. It is not what I am.
I have a God and he is superior to yours. All Gnostics do. Name of all Gods. I am.
Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.
The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation and “I am”, represents the best rules and laws that we have found to live by.
In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to dnmy my a deluded sun and serpent worhsipper with schizofrenia, agnostic affirms uncertainty , christianty doesnt. you cant be be an agnostic christian - its an oxymoronic term. you know it i know it , and the bullshit teachers and philosophers who have convinced you otherwise knows it to.
jesus is another form of hermes and horus - a pathetic host and meditiary for the luciferic serpent forces.
thy eye be single refer to the light body - becoming a minature sun god or a son of the fatherly sun god - a symbolic benben.
let me give you bits of wisdome - by being reborn into a vessel that is fit to merge with luciferic forces as in one identity- you basically agree to submit to a supreme force who is feeding on your energy and that force always takes more than it gives back to its hierophant. - that is why every intiate has to die a symbolic death in the mysteries . you didnt create the luciferic spirit m, you didnt create the luciferic blood , and you didnt create the luciferic avatars or titles or the living word - you are not creating and becoming anything by merging with any of the aformentioned - you are reiterating or reinacting someone elses creation - it is not you becoming the luciferic force - its is the luciferic force becoming you no diffrent than a parasite.
1 . the heirophant give up his autonomy so this wicked luciferic force you worship can be reborn as you not you as them
2. the hierophant give up his karmic history and identity so as to be fit to be a clean vessel for the force that has assimilated your energy system for its own purposes.
thus shall anyone exchange energy to the person the reborn intiatiate was prior to the intiation all enegy directed towards him does not go to him , becuse he has decided to kill himslef it goes to the force that has overtaken the intiate . that is how the luciferic forces recruits "the elected"
so who is agnostic christian , a sad person who thoguht he was receving enlightment by intiation or worse the force that has claimed him - i now think the latter .
i dont have a god. im not one of the bene ha elohim , im not a jacobite, im not a lesser yhwh im not an "i am " i was never intiated into the mysteries by a djinn and never will be.
but what i have written is relative isnt it gnostic christian, it must be if the intiated person is in slumber and the serpent spirit has taken possesion over his core.
so i suppose those forces claiming the vessels can take turns into possesing the vessel, in one lifetime one soul fragment takes the charge over the possesion , then leaves to the underworld - from whench comes another one to possess the vessel in a diffrent incarnation. so maybe you are new soul agnostic christian - but whether you are incarnated in the "physical realm" or the orginal home of those pretender gods , your still the slave all the same.
becuse those forces have disconnected from the real source and superimpoosed thier source over the original source form whence we alll came - reptilian or not. those very same forces are slaves to thier own igonrance and limitations.
your god bigger than my god you say , what are you a 5 year old.. next you´d be telling me "my dad is biger than my dad"..
i dont submit to any pretender god , there is no gods in my reality, if you want to be something that is less than you are (by reconnect to the real source) then by all means i hope you wallow in your delusions for as long as you wishfully want.
and let me finish it off by telling you an even bigger truth, as i was told by matthew delooze ..these pretender gods couldnt even sustain thier existence in this realm if humanity stopped feeding them energy, if humanity stopped worshipping this force and united in one huge collborated effort to vote them out we would have the serpent souls quaking in thier aqvarium and rise far far above thier grasp.
they would be less than ants as they will be one day, hope you get to witness it - better put your running shoes on mate.
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19 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:
Reincarnation and karma are victim blaming concepts.
A new soul is just that. Not some recycled loser.
Try to stay in reality. All your answers are there.
Regards
DL
im not a new soul. if you are an extension of someone elses existence ill understand. im not coming back. only a slave who dont know hes a slave want to stay one. and they are not only losers but a part of the problem aswell,end of discussion, i told you the truth but you didnt want to listen, you cant eat the cake and keep it at the same time. you cant critise religion and claim you dont worship god but at the same time describe yourself an agnostic christian. thank you for showing yuor true colours.
i never mentioned anything about karma and reincarnation being victim and blaming conecepts. we create our own reality and we create our own enslavement trough our own free will. but karma tied to the reincarnation process as a way to learn and grow is a blatant scam
i believe you havwe a good heart but i misjudged you.
we are very diffrent and not alike anywhere. your just like the rest, woefully happy in this pigshit simulation humanity like to call life.
i thank you though, anytime someone tells me to accept "reality" they contribute to my reactionary response which the universe witness - one where i dont accept being a slave.
so i guess my heart is just wired diffrently ....
thank you
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1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:
Thanks for your kind words.
God in the scriptures is a reflection of man.
It truthfully says, in a sense, that he is a jealous God, and so are all of us who have accepted or invented a God.
We seem to be controlled by our selfish genes.
They tell us who to love and hate.
We default to love but most sail to recognize that the moment one creates a love bias, we also create a hate bias against anything that would jeopardize that which we love.
We basically try to love all, because of the selfish security of our person, until we have to compete.
We force children to do so too quickly.
Regards
DL
you are wise. i believe the only way to counteract this seemingly endless chain of cause and effect is by connecting to our all knowing and allbeing state, and make it our duty and service to help others do the same (if they allow us ofcourse), this is what i call unconditional love. by connecting to our highest form of expression ,we leave this world of "duality" i prefeer to call it ( mass hypnosis) behind. extreme cold ceases to be extrem cold and extreme heat ceases to be extreme heat instead they merge and become something pleasant, ofcourse that is only an analogy becuse i believe we created this world collectively trough mass thought , and its nothing but a collective dream or delusion that we have subconsiously agreed to experience by choosing to forget who we are , problem is we agreed to experience this simulation as a sort of holiday, instead a parastic force entrapped us here since time immemorial and we have been unable to find our way back.
when we connect to our true state we experience the highest form of love/well being and freedome of expression and that level is devoid of any boreness and suffering. life becomes a sort of a super resolution videogame ,only lacking the codes and algorithms that makes us suffer or should i say the painful matrix codes revert back to a diffrent and altered higher form of expression when we revert back to our highest form of expression
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On 9/14/2022 at 11:07 PM, Gnostic Christian said:
I do not believe in an unconditional love concept as I have a description for love, but I know what you mean my way, and share your thinking.
Regards
DL
i have seen enough of you to know that you have a good heart with a strong moral base to boot. yes mate .. yahweh is only willing to show love to his disciples if they submit to him and offer sacrifices, he is unwilling or uncapable to show love to those who dont submit to him, humans are entirely diffrent in that respect, so what is the source of love that humans possess, becuse our capacity to love couldnt ever come form that luciferic maniac.
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1 hour ago, JCP said:
Money is not necessary to survive. What is necessary are the things money buys. By making the statement above, you are inadvertently promoting the debt/slave system of today, where a few people who have most of the money have the ability to control and dictate our lives. There is a better way. You just have to have an imagination and think outside of the box. The high concentration of money, in so few hands is what causes most of the problems you espouse against.
Instead of thinking how you use money, think about how they use money.
not to mention how money can be manipulated to recruit occult power to tptb
here:s a great article about the power of money and its occult usage https://www.docdroid.net/Ck0GiL1/matthewdelooze-ill-take-it-what-is-it-docx?fbclid=IwAR0bjMJscPL-wmh2Qlp2yTaNYoRxp7irrq9OPHyWzJlo0TcRe2I3isQOwzc (written by matthew delooze)
I disagree with David about karma
in David Icke Discussion
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Ofcourse mate , hence the wheel of death and rebirth.
Another obvious link to blood and the colour red is mars ( Samuel) - the god of war.