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  1. Right on pi! 

    It would be presumptuous to think that God would deny anyone who is earnestly seeking Him.  

     

    Catholic, Buddhist, Muslim, we are all on our own paths.  Macnamara shared how he started and where he is now.  I’ve shared and so did you.  

     

    If one is calling out for God, He will not deny that person, no matter who he is, what religion, or what he has done in the past. 

     

    If one is not seeking God, not open to the concept, or on a mission to prove God does not exist, those things will be so for that person’s mind and heart.  

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  2. 4 hours ago, pi3141 said:

    Agreed but some Christians calculated the beginning by counting back the family lines in the Bible to tell us the Earth is only 6000 years old.

     

    They were fundamentalists, you must know this.

    There are also backwoods in Murica where they take up snakes and speak tongues like buleedubuh doopoo.   That’s low hanging fruit found in every back woods in every religion on earth, representative of a small minority. 
     

    Some Native Americans believe the first man was made of snot blown out of the goddess’ nose, so we may be snot creatures instead of dust.

  3. On 4/16/2021 at 7:03 PM, Macnamara said:

    I'm just trying to understand the process that has torn those people away from a search for the ineffable into a phoney Tv land that won't serve the same purpose

     

    America is just as bad or worse.  

     

    You may not believe in Satan, but you for sure know his followers exist.
    Call it the ‘satanic strategy’ or call it a byproduct of progress and innovation.  
     

    Either way the name of the game is distraction.  They tried killing Christians off for centuries but they only ended up creating martyrs and strengthening people’s conviction.  It’s amazing how people gain resolve under persecution.

     

    However with endless distraction:  rat race, things, overeating, entertainment, keeping up with the Joneses, not only are 1st world people sheltered from real suffering in the world, they are oblivious to the state of their own souls.   They don’t know their souls are in peril.  
     

    It’s like winning a war without firing a shot. 

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  4. 48 minutes ago, Norn IroNZ said:

    Dont expect to be around long. Apparently my posts are "spamming". I'm a celebrity get me outta here.

    Attacks, distortions, or criticism of the Christian faith are welcomed.  
    Also if you believe you are not real and nothing is real and you are living a fake life inside a computer simulation that is better received.  
    I like your posts,  though. 🙂

  5. 1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

    rediscovering religion through the filter of jung lol


    Curious...what have you found through the filter of Jung?  All I know of his work is dreams and archetypes.  Wasn’t he on the eastern religious path?
     

    1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

    protestant spartanism

     
    Interesting perspective on Protestantism.  The truths and teachings in the Bible are all I need, but my imagination is kind of wild on its own.  

    The celebration church down the road has a lot of flashing lights, loud musical productions, multimedia sermons, and it’s just way too much.  I can see the need though, to put on a show to break through the numbness.  

     

    What I have learned in less than a year about the path of Christianity is simple in theory, but transforming in practice:
     

    Prayerfully study the Bible and repent, turn away from the sinful life.  In practice it is a discipline like meditation; each moment reforming the selfish, destructive nature of my mind.  Filtering thoughts: are they idle, evil, Godly?  

    I am also required to bear fruit, meaning no longer be a taker, but a wholehearted giver.  Remember the suffering and help.  It is not sexy, glamorous, or self-aggrandizing, but it is not passive.  

    When contemplating God and God’s love for us it is so overwhelmingly beautiful this gift of life.  Makes me a crybaby. 
     

     

     

  6. Five 

     

    Time period - to 1790s

    Trumpet - 5th

    Plague - 5th

     

    5th trumpet 

    Revelations 9:1-12

     

    “And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

    And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

    And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

    And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

    And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

    And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

    And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

    And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

    And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

    And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

    And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

    One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.”

     

    Interpretation of the fifth trumpet:

     

    In this prophecy there is a star, which could be a comet, smoke from the bottomless pit, which Webster commonly referred to as vapor.  This could represent actual smoke from volcanic eruptions or changes in the magnetosphere that brought on the plagues.  

     

    Noah Webster mentions a belief held by some physicians that comets, meteors, and seismic activity caused negative behavioral and spiritual changes as well as physical illness.  

     

    It could be that Abaddon, the angel of the bottomless pit brought destruction to all aspects of life in the beast’s kingdom. 

     

    There is a time period given of five months.  Using the biblical time calculation of a day for a year, 5 months means 150 years.  

     

    It seems “all hell broke lose” out of the bottomless pit and introduced an age of violent persecution of Christians and religious wars.  

     

     

    1618

     

    The 30 Years War

     

    8 million military and civilians died, mostly of starvation and plague. 

     

    In 1618 appeared a remarkable comet in November, (Short mentions four) and a town in Rhetia was overwhelmed by an earthquake. Violent tempests, inundations and hurricanes are recorded of the same.   In 1619 Heckla discharged her fiery contents.

     

    In 1618 broke out in Naples a malignant Angina (diphtheria) which ravaged the place for many years. The plague appeared at Bergen, in Norway, in Denmark and in Grand Cairo. 

     

    This was the beginning of a very pestilential period, and here must be introduced the terrible pestilence which wasted the American Indians, just before our ancestors landed in Massachusetts.  Capt. Dermer was an English adventurer in America in 1619.  He sailed along the coast and found many Indian towns totally depopulated.

     

    As this is one of the most remarkable facts in history, and one that demonstrates the general causes of plague to belong to other climates, besides those of Egypt and the Levant (Webster, Noah).

     

     

    5th plague

    Revelations 16:10-11

     

    “And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

    And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.”

     

    Interpretation of the fifth plague:

     

    The seat of the beast is the Vatican.  Darkness on the kingdom symbolizes its decline in power due to various plagues that decimated the Italian population and economy.

     

    “Plague in Seventeenth Century Europe and the Decline of Italy“

    https://academic.oup.com/ereh/article/17/4/408/499216

     

    “They gnawed their tongues in pain” could refer to the epidemic of diphtheria which caused pain and swelling of the throat which obstructed the airway.

     

    150 years after the end of the Thirty Years War the Pope was captured by Napoleon’s army.  In biblical terms, “the beast received it’s mortal wound.” 

  7. 4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

     

    The modern rational scientific mindset cannot grapple with the symbolic power of religion

     

    the modern rational scientific mind with its literal interpretation of things cannot make sense of a man walking on water or turning water into wine. The magic goes out of religion and is replaced with rigid skepticism instead

     

    If people can think poetically, which is to mean engaging the holistic right side of their brain in balance with the more logical left side they could re-engage with religion and find new meaning in it

     

    But without doing that it will always seem like fairytale to the modern rational scientific (left brain dominant) mind


    If by modern, rational, scientific mind you mean your own, Macnamara mind, I buy that. 🙂
     

    But as far as ‘people’ are concerned, they are anything but rational and scientific minded.  
     

    See The Social Animal by Eliot Aronson, Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman, and The Milgram Experiment for the basics on that.  
     

    Why do we not see naysayers naysaying Hinduism, Buddhism, and Neo and the Matrix? Going, “well that’s not possible for that to happen in real life!”

     

    The problem isn’t that people can’t use their right brains or understand symbols.  Problem is they don’t view or respect Christianity as a path.  And that’s exactly what it is:  a path.  
     

    If you come up to the Buddhist path, you either take it or you decline.  You don’t sit at the door and gripe about what you never bothered to look into, much less understand.

     

    I’m here at the  British Museum with my field trip and we go in and I’m fascinated!  The other kids in my class have no interest whatsoever because all this shit was stolen anyway and museums suck.  So they go play Pokémon go or shop.  

    I go back on the weekends and read all the inscriptions on all of exhibits.  Then I go back and talk to one of the curators.  One day, I sit in front of the bronze Shiva and just take it in.  

    It is basically the same concept when you study the Bible or enter into any religious practice.  
     

    But those who do not want to make themselves vulnerable will come up with just any reason to keep away.  I know this because I was the same.  
     

    I testify to you as another thinking, reasoning person, that this path, Christianity, works by practice.  And it’s good!  
     

  8. Four

     

    Time period - to 1560s

    Trumpet - 4th

    Plague - 4th

     

    4th trumpet

    Revelations 8:12

     

    “And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.”

     

    1/3

     

    The Black Plague

     

    This plague was so deadly that at least half or two thirds of the human race perished in about 8 years. It was most fatal in cities, but in no place died less than a third of the inhabitants (Webster, Noah).

     

     

    4th plague

    Revelations 16:8-9

     

    “And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

    And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.”

     

     

    The Sun

     

    From: Simon de Covino “Judgement of the Sun at the Feasts of Saturn” (1350)

     

    “All the planets were in conjunction with Saturn in his own house of the zodiac, that is Aquarius, in three months of 1345 - January, February, and March.  That is not to say that all the planets were in conjunction with Saturn at once, but one after another in various days in those three months.  

     

    The great conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius, which only happens every ninety years, is a conjunction which, according to philosophers, signifies great and amazing upheavals.  Aristotle in his book on the properties of elements says that because of the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in Aquarius kingdoms have been emptied and the earth depopulated.”

     

    The allegorical poem, “The Judgement of the Sun at the Feasts of Saturn” describes the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn as a dispute between the planets over the fate of the human race, with Jupiter arguing on behalf of humanity and Saturn against it.  The sun makes the final judgement which is to bring the plague. 

     

    The sun is the heart which governs all the planets in our system, as well as all life on earth.  Simon de Covino, who was a physician and astronomer from the University of Paris, believed that the human heart served the same purpose in the body and focused his treatments on the heart during the Black Death pandemic.

     

     

    Scorched with great heat

     

    Guido, an inhabitant of Avignon, says the malady was of two kinds:  “the first was a fever, with spitting of blood.”  All who were seized with these symptoms, died in three days.

     

    The other kind came on with continued fever, carbuncles and abscesses, in the glands.  This was as fatal as the other, and the patient died in five days (Webster, Noah).

     

    Other phenomena surrounding the Black Death:

     

    The histories of that age relate, that the plague commenced in China, and was preceded by the bursting of a huge meteor or globe of fire; or as others relate, the fire burst from the earth.

     

    Mezeray relates that in China, the disease originated from a vapor, which burst from the earth, was horribly offensive and consumed the face of the country through an extent of 200 leagues.

     

    In 1347 appeared a frightful comet, in August. Preceding and during the prevalence of the disease, the whole earth was shaken by most tremendous earthquakes.

     

    Over Avignon was suspended a meteor or pillar of fire for an hour. The heavens were at times illuminated as with flame, and meteors were frequent (Webster, Noah).

     

     

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  9. Microdosing shrooms would make sense for someone dependent on SSRIs looking for a substitute.  But it would create a dependence just like the weed because it messes with your levels.  
     

    Also may be good for numb people seeking a richer sensory experience in daily life without intoxication.  
     

    @perpetual Lucky.  I like them kaleidoscope patterns!

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  10. Three

     

    Time period - to 538

    Trumpet - 3rd

    Plague - 3rd

     

    Background: 

     

    Daniel 7:25 concerns the bishop of Rome, the political-spiritual power that arose out of the fourth beast, which is Rome.  

     

    It also gives a time prophecy for this power that spans a period of 1260 years, from AD 538 - 1798.  In this age the Bible became outlawed and persecution of Christians ensued.  Many were labeled heretics against the Roman authority and tortured or burned to death.

     

    You can learn about this time prophecy here: 

     

    https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/the-1260-year-reign-of-the-popes-of-the-roman-catholic-church/

     

    After the last Western Roman Emperor was removed in 476 A.D., the Popes of Rome took power in 538 A.D, when they were given authority by Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian.

     

    538 AD and the Transition from Pagan Roman Empire to Holy Roman Empire:  Justinian’s Metamorphosis from Chief of Staff to Theologian

    https://research.avondale.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1144&context=theo_papers

     

     

    3rd trumpet 

    Revelations 8:10-11

     

    “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

    And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.”

     

    In 531 appeared the resplendent comet, whose revolution is fixed at 575 years, supposed to be the same which was visible in the year BC 44, after the death of Julius Cesar. This was the fifth year of the reign of Justinian.

     

    Not long after the approach of the comet in 531, the sun assumed a pale color, and shone with a feeble light. In a translation of Cedrenus, this phenomenon is thus described:  During the whole year, the sun gave a gloomy light, like the moon, and appeared as if eclipsed.

     

    It is remarkable that tradition has preserved a faint account of a similar phenomenon, during the approach of the same comet, at the time of the Ogygean inundation, BC 1767. It is said, that the planet Venus changed her color, size and figure. An account is preserved in tradition, of a phenomenon of the same nature, during the approach of the same star, in a subsequent revolution. 

     

    The appearance, in the period under consideration, is a well authenticated fact, and witnesses a singular change in the properties, and reflecting powers of the atmosphere, or denotes an essential alteration in the face of the sun

    In either case, it seemed a prelude to the most dreadful calamities, famine, earthquakes, and pestilence

     

    In 534 is recorded one of the most distressing famines that ever afflicted the earth; it continued many years, and destroyed multitudes of the human race. Pompeiopolis was this year overwhelmed in ruin by an earthquake, and great numbers of its inhabitants perished.

     

    About this period, Vesuvius began to utter hollow rumbling noises, the precursors of an eruption.

     

    Excepting a slight plague in Wales, no pestilence is mentioned until the year 542. But the famine, in great severity, had raged eight or nine years before; a proof that something more than famine is necessary to generate the plague (Webster, Noah).

     

     

    3rd Plague 

    Revelations 16:4-7

     

    “And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.

    And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.

    For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

    And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.”

     

    Description of the Justinian Plague:

     

    Procopius relates, "That this pestilence, which almost destroyed the human race, and for which no cause could be assigned but the will of God, did not rage in one part of the world only, nor in one season of the year. It ravaged the whole world, seizing all descriptions of people, without regard to different constitutions, habits or ages; and without regard to their places of residence, their modes of subsistence or their different pursuits. Some were seized in winter, some in summer; others in other seasons of the year.

     

    It first appeared in Pelusium in Egypt and thence spread westward to Alexandria and all parts of Egypt; eastward towards Palestine, and extended to all parts of the world, laying waste islands, caves, mountains, and all places where men dwelt. If it passed by a particular country at first, or slightly affected it, it soon returned upon it with the same desolating rage which other places had experienced.  It began in maritime towns and spread to the interior country. It seized Constantinople in the spring of 543.

     

    Most persons were seized suddenly without any premonition, nor was there any change of color or sense of heat; for until evening the fever was so slight that the patient was not ill, nor did the physician, from the pulse, apprehend danger. But in some cases the same day, in others the next, in others at a later period, a bubo arose, either in the groin, the armpits, or near the ear, or in some other part. All patients alike had these symptoms.

     

    Some were seized with drowsiness and slumbering; others with furious distraction. The slumberers forgot all things.  Some would eat if desired, others were neglected and starved.

     

    Neither physician nor attendant caught the distemper by contact of the sick or dead; and many, encouraged by their wonderful escape, applied themselves with assiduity to the care of the sick and the burial of the deceased.

     

    Many were seized, they knew not from what cause, and suddenly died. Some who were given over by physicians unexpectedly recovered; others who appeared to be in no danger speedily expired. Many died for want of relief; others recovered without assistance. 

     

    No cause of the disease could be devised by human reason—no means of prevention or cure.

     

    The physicians opened the bodies of some, and found within the sores huge carbuncles. Those whose bodies were spotted with black pimples, of the size of a lentil, lived not a day. Those who had running sores escaped, and these were the most certain signs of recovery. Some had their thighs withered; others lost the use of their tongues.

    To women with child, the disease was certain death.

     

    This disease in Constantinople lasted four months, raging three months with extreme mortality. In the beginning, few died more than usual; but the disease gradually increased, till it swept off 10,000 persons in a day."

     

    Authors mention the early effects of this disease on the brain; the patients, on the first attack, saw phantoms of evil spirits, which made them imagine themselves smitten by some person (Webster, Noah).

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  11. Note:

     

    During the Industrial Revolution medicine was mechanized and the human body was treated as a sort of machine.  Darwinism swept the scientific world, and ‘hard science’ delighted in the compartmentalization of natural phenomena.  

     

    What was lost was the connection of things:  God, celestial, earthly, human, animal, plant.  The earliest physicians knew this and practiced accordingly.  

     

    Modern medical theory dismisses ancient knowledge to everyone’s detriment.  The modern scientific community has adopted a shallow view of connectedness while dismissing the knowledge compiled by physicians and astronomers for thousands of years. 

     

    Academics dismiss ancient medicines as superstition while whitewashing the practices.  Leeches and bloodletting come to mind as examples of oversimplification of what, in reality, is rich knowledge about health of the body.  

     

    Despite these efforts, there were a few academics around the time of the Industrial Revolution who shed light on the old way of looking at the world.

     

    This is the lens through which we view the 7 plagues of Revelations.  

  12. Two

     

    Time period - to 313

    Trumpet - 2nd

    Plague - 2nd

     

    2nd trumpet

    Revelations 8:8-9

    “And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

    And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.”

     

    A great death of fish in 231, multitudes of which were washed ashore on Britain; and an earthquake in Wales in 232.  In 235 a comet is noted.

     

    In the reign of the Emperor Gordian, about the year 243, the earth was agitated by most violent earthquakes; and in 245 there was a prodigious inundation of the sea in Lincolnshire, England, which laid under water many thousand acres of land, which are said not yet to be recovered.

     

    This latter period (around 262) was marked by destructive earthquakes in Rome, Syria and other countries.  In some places the earth opened and salt water issued. Trebellius Pollio says, "Frightful earthquakes shook Italy, Asia and Africa. For many days, [some authors say, three days] there was an unusual or preternatural darkness and a hollow rumbling noise in the earth, which opened in many places. Many cities in Asia were overwhelmed, and others lost in the ocean.

     

    In the Universal History, it is said that this plague ravaged Capadocia and all Asia Minor, and was followed by famine, earthquakes and a great comet or meteor.

     

    The great error of historians and physicians has been, that observing famine and pestilence often cotemporary, and the cause of the plague not being obvious to the senses, they have taken famine to be the cause. Whereas it will appear on careful investigation, that famine is an effect of the same cause which produces the plague among men. The dearth of provisions, during this formidable epidemic, is the effect of a pestilence in vegetation; that is, a failure in the principles of vegetable life, which proceeds from the same derangement of the seasons, or defect in the properties of air and water, which causes the plague among men

    (Webster, Noah).

     

     

    2nd plague

    Revelations 16:3

    “And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.”

     

    It is often said that the Cyprian Plague ushered the fall of the Roman Empire.

    You can read about it here:

     

    https://www.ancient.eu/article/992/plague-of-cyprian-250-270-ce/
     

    “The plague appears to have been most fatal in Rome at two different times, in the years 252 and 262 or 3, including the year preceding and succeeding each of these periods. It reached the northern parts of Europe, and in 266, Scotland had scarcely living people enough to bury the dead.

     

    It first appeared in Ethiopia, on the confines of Egypt, and spread over all the provinces of the Roman Empire, which, says Zonaras, were excessively exhausted by its destructive ravages. 

     

    Jornandes says, the pestilence desolated or disfigured the face of the whole earth.

     

    In the reign of Gallienus, 5000 citizens of Rome perished daily, in 262, or the following year, a portion of this period most distinguished for convulsions of the earth (Webster, Noah).

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  13. One

     

    Time period - ascension of Christ to 100 AD

    Trumpet - 1st

    Plague - 1st

     

     

    1st trumpet

    Revelations 8:7

    “The fist angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of the trees was burnt up, and all the green grass was burnt up.”

     

    Mount Vesuvius in AD 79

     

    “In the year 79 just before the death of Vespasian, appeared a comet with a long coma in the month of June. On the first of November following, a most tremendous ebullition of fire and lava issued from Vesuvius and laid waste the neighboring country. At the same time, happened a violent earthquake, which buried the cities of Herculaneum and Pompeium; and so sudden was the shock, that the people, who were attending a play, had not time to quit the theater, and were all buried in a mass.

     

    This dreadful catastrophe was preceded by rumbling noises in the earth, and the earth was heated to a great degree. Violent agitations of the sea, thunder and lightning also announced the approach of some dreadful event.

    The eruption lasted three days, during which time such immense quantities of ashes and smoke were discharged, that day was turned into night, and the ashes were driven by different winds to Rome, Syria and Africa.

     

    The agitations of the earth and the elements were tremendous and frighful. Baronius remarks, that some persons supposed the world would be reduced to chaos, or consumed with fire. The fish in the neighboring seas were destroyed.

    This explosion of subterranean fire was preceded by a severe drought in Italy. The next year, 80, was remarkable for a terrible inundation in England; the Severn overflowing a large tract of country, and destroying multitudes of cattle.”

     

    1st plague

    Revelations 16:2

    “And the first went and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them who worshipped his image.”

     

    “These violent effects of subterranean fire were attended by one of the most fatal plagues recorded in history. 

     

    A remark of Dion is here very important. He says that the ‘Ashes from Vesuvius caused, at the time, only slight indispositions or diseases; but afterwards produced an Epidemic distemper,’ The remark is incorrect, in ascribing even slight diseases to ashes; but it leads to a conclusion, which is of moment. The slight complaints which prevailed in the autumn of the year of the eruption, com|pared with modern observations, appear to have been the precursors of the plague, which broke out the next year, and as authors assert, destroyed, for some time, 10,000 citizens of Rome in a day.

     

    The same year, while the Emperor Titus was viewing the ruins in Campania, a fire broke out in the city, which laid in ashes a great number of buildings.

     

    The order of the events in this period was, a comet, drought, slight diseases, and an eruption of Vesuvius, with the earthquakes, the first year.

    In the second, appeared the pestilence with its most malignant effects.”

     

     

    Source:  

    A brief history of epidemic and pestilential diseases; with the principal phenomena of the physical world, which precede and accompany them, and observations deduced from the facts stated. : In two volumes.

    Webster, Noah, 1758-1843.  p. 68

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  14. To understand the following, you must first get your head around the letters from Jesus to the seven churches in Revelations 2 and 3.  The churches were in physical places at the founding of Christianity, but they have a double meaning.   The churches also represent eras of time from Jesus’ ascension to the present day.  The time of the end Jesus spoke about spans 2000+ years.

     

    It looks something like this:

     

    Ephesus ascension - 100AD

     

    Smyrna 100 - 313

     

    Pergamum to 538 

     

    Thyatira to 1560s

     

    Sardis to 1790s

     

    Philadelphia to 1840s 

     

    Laodecia to end 

     

    Source: God Cares, Mervyn Maxwell

     

    Now, look at the picture below of the chiasmic structure of Revelations.  The two pink boxes explain the link between the 7 trumpets and the 7 plagues. 

     

    The 7 trumpets are real celestial and earthly events.  The seven plagues are real plagues caused by the celestial and earthly events.   

     

    Six of the seven celestial and earthly events, that are directly linked to six of the seven plagues in Revelations, have already happened.  These events all occurred within each of the eras denoted by the letters to the seven churches.  

     

    Yeah, so what?  Here’s what:  We can use this information from the prophecies in Revelations to determine whether we are in the time of the 7th plague.

     

    Notes:

     

    When you think about it it makes sense that God would keep empires like Rome in check by decimating their most valued resource.  All kingdoms need their underclasses from which to exploit wealth, fight their wars, and execute their agendas.  The economies of these powers were crippled from the massive losses of their human capital.

     

    Before you get indignant about God visiting destruction upon the earth, please see Chronicles 21:12-13.  When King David sinned against the Lord he was given a choice of three penalties, one of which was to be under siege by human enemies, David chose to “not fall into the hand of man.”  

     

    Man is a formidable foe when it comes to bringing destruction on the earth:  wars, environmental destruction, man-made diseases, millions killed by communism and millions killed by capitalism.  The list rivals the worst of the Biblical plagues. 
     

     

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  15. Rant. 

    Yuck. 

     

    Does anyone give a fig about each other?  Or do they passionately care about being right?  If they had the slightest respect for one another they wouldn’t feel the need to constantly shit upon each other’s beliefs.  

     

    This talk about intolerance is projection.  

    People have biases and they need to confirm them.

     

    Is it possible to be Neo in the Matrix without shitting on Christianity?  Or read Alan Watts books without shitting upon the astral surfers?  

     

    It’s all really stupid and gay.  

     

    Adults only:

     

    If you think the Bible is a big lie:  if this is a lie, or that is a lie, instead of driving by with your asshole/opinion showing, or spitting some incoherentgarbage, make your fkn case using your superior intellect and support your claims.

     

    No one here completely knows the score, otherwise they’d be out doing that instead of hanging around here. 

     

  16. Who knows about the shroom microdose situation?  I did less than a gram in fancy chocolate on Saturday night and it depleted my serotonin levels.  I was a pissant for two days afterward.  

    I thought “oh microdose so I won’t be in my yard drooling and pasting mud all over myself.”  
     

    The effect was similar to being on good weed.  No visual hallucinations, but saw patterns with eyes closed.  Fine being outside, senses more active, but inside no sleep because of auditory hallucinations.  I detest auditory hallucinations.  They are a pain in the ass.  
     

    Probably would’ve been better off eating the whole chocolate bar and seeing lollipop kids run around.  


    So what’s the goal of the microdose game? 

  17. 55 minutes ago, JosiahIV said:

    OK i think I am unneeded here so I will take my leave of you all. I have a lot to say about those pics you shared but its not going to give food to starving children in africa so why should I bother?

    There’s a lot of name calling that goes on here, it’s par for the course.  You and I know you’re not a hypocrite.  And I would like to hear what you have to say on all subjects.  🙂

  18. 11 hours ago, peter said:

    There is two people both say they are Christians, one lives an exemplary life, doesn't lust after women or money and follows all the commandments to the letter and is kind and considerate but he doesn't believe in god . The other one believes in god and goes to church religiously but is an absolute asshole ,cheats on his wife, steals is a bully etc etc   


    I think you know the answer already, and the answer can be found in the scriptures as well. 
     

    Romans 2:12-13

    “For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law”. 
     

    “For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.”


    The one who has heard but doesn’t do is your hypocrite dude. 


    Romans 2:14

    “For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves“

     

    The one who does by his nature is your good dude.

  19. 3 hours ago, peter said:

    you do not need to be a member of an organized christian religion to actually possess the perceived christian ideals and live life accordingly 

     

    Agreed.  
    You do not need to be a member.  
    The Christian ideals are pretty straightforward.  Adhering to them is the challenge.
     

    3 hours ago, peter said:

    it doesn't matter in what name it was done, it was carried out by right wing god fearing Christians, now there is another Christian in the shit house , sorry white house and it hasn't taken him long to start dropping bombs on innocent people, but that's OK as they're those other ones, you know that other religion


    Biden serves money, power, period.  Do you think the religion Biden claims, which is Catholic, has anything to do with who he is?  Those who serve money and power do not care about the religion they claim, nor the religions of anyone they bomb.  It has to do with resources and contract deals.  Plus isn’t the cabal a big deal here on the forum?  Who do they worship?
     

    As a grown man you know well as I do that people, especially politicians, are not who they say they are.
     

    There is a very prevalent force in your society that shapes people’s biases about Christianity.  It is not an accident that England is one of the most atheist countries in the world.  It’s not because everyone is really really smart (look around your neighborhood).  
     

    Anyway, none of this has anything to do with the validity of the teachings of the prophets and Jesus, and God’s commandments.  
     

     

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