Posts posted by karmaxxxx
10 hours ago, Bombadil said:
Can I remind everyone to back up opinions with evidence.
hi Tom think they can just root out the book section on this site, if not I can provide pdfs.
9 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:
Cancer cells can't survive in an alkaline environment. That's why it's important to test the Ph of your urine. Someone dear to me has cancer and now eats an alkaline-inducing diet and if her Ph goes into the acidic range, she'll take a bit of baking soda in water to balance things out.
Edit: in deference to @Tom bombadil here's a link to a natural healing site. However, conventional medicine and the drug companies have dismissed the alkaline body theory as junk science.
yes bro my teacher taught pretty much that 70% alkaline 30% acid is a perfect human balance.
4 hours ago, RobinJ said:
Yep Im afraid it was debunked not long after it was invented, along with vaccine theory and others. Go do some research, if you can still find it. Imposed restrictions have nothing to do with truth. Truth is often a bitter pill which many just cannot swallow.
The truth has zero to do with spite or accusations of of spite or other nonsense. Blind faith in anything pushed via the idiots who think they are in control is ridiculous. If you are unable to open your eyes and even consider a different opinion, or send an anger response when someone challenges your thought processes perhaps you may need to wake up a bit more and spend more time reflecting rather than reacting.
Kinda difficult to always do that when stuff is being constantly scrubbed off the internet.
foreword copied evidence of world wide scam. The book Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht and Claus Kohnlein
Foreword I The Content of This Book Has To Be Read, Quickly and Worldwide The book Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht and Claus Kohnlein presents a tragic message that will, hopefully, contribute to the re-insertion of ethical values in the conduct of virus research, public health policies, media communications, and activities of the pharmaceutical companies. Obviously, elementary ethical rules have been, to a very dangerous extent, neglected in many of these fields for an alarming number of years. When American journalist Celia Farber courageously published, in Harper's Magazine (March 2006) the article "Out of control-AIDS and the corruption of medical science," some readers probably attempted to reassure themselves that this "corruption" was an isolated case. This is very far from the truth as documented so well in this book by Engelbrecht and Kohnlein. It is only the tip of the iceberg. Corruption of research is a widespread phenomenon currently found in many major, supposedly contagious health problems, ranging from AIDS to Hepatitis C, Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE or "mad cow disease"), SARS, Avian flu and current vaccination practices (human papillomavirus or HPV vaccination). In research on all of these six distinct public health concerns scientific research on viruses (or prions in the case of BSE) slipped onto the wrong track following basically the same systematic pathway. This pathway always includes several key steps: inventing the risk of a disastrous epidemic, incriminating an elusive pathogen, ignoring alternative toxic causes, manipulating epidemiology with non-verifiable numbers to maximize the false perception of an imminent catastrophe, and promising salvation with vaccines. This guarantees large financial returns. But how is it possible to achieve all of this? Simply by relying on the most powerful activator of human decision making process, i.e. FEAR! We are not witnessing viral epidemics; we are witnessing epidemics of fear. And both the media and the pharmaceutical industry carry most of the responsibility for amplifying fears, fears that happen, incidentally, to always ignite fantastically profitable business. Research hypotheses covering these areas of virus research are practically never scientifically verified with appropriate controls. Instead, they are established by "consensus." This is then rapidly reshaped into a dogma, efficiently 11 Foreword I perpetuated in a quasi-religious manner by the media, including ensuring that research funding is restricted to projects supporting the dogma, excluding research into alternative hypotheses. An important tool to keep dissenting voices out of the debate is censorship at various levels ranging from the popular media to scientific publications. We haven't learnt well from past experiences. There are still many unanswered questions on the causes of the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic, and on the role of viruses in post-WWII polio (DDT neurotoxicity?). These modern epidemics should have opened our minds to more critical analyses. Pasteur and Koch had constructed an understanding of infection applicable to several bacterial diseases. But this was before the first viruses were actually discovered. Transposing the principles of bacterial infections to viruses was, of course, very tempting but should not have been done without giving parallel attention to the innumerable risk factors in our toxic environment; to the toxicity of many drugs, and to some nutritional deficiencies. Cancer research had similar problems. The hypothesis that cancer might be caused by viruses was formulated in 1903, more than one century ago. Even today it has never been convincingly demonstrated. Most of the experimental laboratory studies by virus-hunters have been based on the use of inbred mice, inbred implying a totally unnatural genetic background. Were these mice appropriate models for the study of human cancer? (we are far from being inbred!) True, these mice made possible the isolation and purification of "RNA tumor viruses," later renamed "retroviruses" and well characterized by electron microscopy. But are these viral particles simply associated with the murine tumors, or are they truly the culprit of malignant transformation? Are these particles real exogenous infective particles, or endogenous defective viruses hidden in our chromosomes? The question is still debatable. What is certain is that viral particles similar to those readily recognized in cancerous and leukemic mice have never been seen nor isolated in human cancers. Of mice and men ... However, by the time this became clear, in the late 1960s, viral oncology had achieved a dogmatic, quasi-religious status. If viral particles cannot be seen by electron microscopy in human cancers, the problem was with electron microscopy, not with the dogma of viral oncology! This was the time molecular biology was taking a totally dominant posture in viral research. "Molecular markers" for retroviruses were therefore invented (reverse transcriptase for example) and substituted most conveniently for the absent viral particles, hopefully salvaging the central dogma of viral oncology. This permitted the viral hypothesis to survive for another ten years, until the late 1970s, with the help of increasingly generous support from funding agencies and from pharmaceutical companies. However by 12 Foreword I 1980 the failure of this line of research was becoming embarrassingly evident, and the closing of some viral oncology laboratories would have been inevitable, except that ... Except what? Virus cancer research would have crashed to a halt except that, in 1981, five cases of severe immune deficiencies were described by a Los Angeles physician, all among homosexual men who were also all sniffing amyl nitrite, were all abusing other drugs, abusing antibiotics, and probably suffering from malnutrition and STDs (sexually transmitted diseases). It would have been logical to hypothesize that these severe cases of immune deficiency had multiple toxic origins. This would have amounted to incrimination of these patients' life-style. Unfortunately, such discrimination was, politically, totally unacceptable. Therefore, another hypothesis had to be found-these patients were suffering from a contagious disease caused by a new ... retrovirus! Scientific data in support of this hypothesis was and, amazingly enough, still is totally missing. That did not matter, and instantaneous and passionate interest of cancer virus researchers and institutions erupted immediately. This was salvation for the viral laboratories where AIDS now became, almost overnight, the main focus of research. It generated huge financial support from Big Pharma, more budget for the CDC and NIH, and nobody had to worry about the life style of the patients who became at once the innocent victims of this horrible virus, soon labeled as HIV. Twenty-five years later, the HIV 1 AIDS hypothesis has totally failed to achieve three major goals in spite of the huge research funding exclusively directed to projects based on it. No AIDS cure has ever been found; no verifiable epidemiological predictions have ever been made; and no HIV vaccine has ever been successfully prepared. Instead, highly toxic (but not curative) drugs have been most irresponsibly used, with frequent, lethal side effects. Yet not a single HIV particle has ever been observed by electron microscopy in the blood of patients supposedly having a high viral load ! So what? All the most important newspapers and magazine have displayed attractive computerized, colorful images of HIV that all originate from laboratory cell cultures, but never from even a single AIDS patient. Despite this stunning omission the HIV I AIDS dogma is still solidly entrenched. Tens of thousands of researchers, and hundreds of major pharmaceutical companies continue to make huge profits based on the HIV hypothesis. And not one single AIDS patient has ever been cured ... Yes, HIV I AIDS is emblematic of the corruption of virus research that is remarkably and tragically documented in this book. Research programs on Hepatitis C, BSE, SARS, Avian flu and current vaccination policies all developed along the same logic, that of maximizing financial profits. Whenever we try to understand how some highly questionable therapeutic policies 13 Foreword I have been recommended at the highest levels of public health authorities (WHO, CDC, RKI etc.), we frequently discover either embarrassing conflicts of interests, or the lack of essential control experiments, and always the strict rejection of any open debate with authoritative scientists presenting dissident views of the pathological processes. Manipulations of statistics, falsifications of clinical trials, dodging of drug toxicity tests have all been repeatedly documented. All have been swiftly covered up, and none have been able to, so far, disturb the cynical logic of today's virus research business. The cover-up of the neurotoxicity of the mercury containing preservative thimerosal as a highly probable cause of autism among vaccinated children apparently reached the highest levels of the US govemement ... (see article "Deadly Immunity" from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in chapter 8) Virus Mania is a social disease of our highly developed society. To cure it will require conquering fear, fear being the most deadly contagious virus, most efficiently transmitted by the media. Errare humanum est sed diabolicum preservare . - .. (to err is human, but to preserve an error is diabolic). Etienne de Harven, MD Professor Emeritus of Pathology at the University of Toronto and Member of the Sloan Kettering Institute for Cancer Research, New York (1956 - 1981) Member of Thabo Mbeki's AIDS Advisory Panel of South Africa
On 4/24/2022 at 9:00 PM, sock muppet said:
But would you not class crystals as toxins/toxic, and also a way that the body purges it's self by trying to dissolve the little baskits, i could imagine this to be the case as i would imagine that not all crystals are good for you when ingested somehow, the movie Andromeda strain comes to mind and the crux of the story was that the wino and the baby survived because the Ph of the blood dissolved the toxin, can't remember if it was acidic or alkaline.
excellent discussion going on here, from my understanding a body cannot get sick normally if its alkaline, most dis=ease is cause as the diet is to acidic which in a round about way has already been pointed out here. I learnt this from my teacher lol, if your a heavy meat eater for example your body is acidic. add stress lack of movement stale air bad diets what you have is a prime overload of acid and guess what these fuckers did for last few years., yeah we already know enjoying this discussion kind regards
On 9/16/2021 at 4:44 AM, whatthefoxhat said:
Spent the last 36 hours looking at ham radio in the UK and have come to the conclusion that this is something that anyone with even the slightest noton of prepping should be looking at (worldwide as well,but presently i can only quote regarding uk seeing as i live in it) as an alternative means of communication and not neccesarily in a true shtf situation.
We have received plenty of hints about threats to establishd communications methods and seen in places such as India/South Africa sim card restrictions being put in place for the unjabbed so the threats are very real at this present time
I have decided to follow the legal route espcially given that the examinations for HR in the Uk can now be taken online, i'm well aware that the legal route requires full disclosure to the powers that shouldn't be my full details and in times of national emergency i'm also aware that ham radio operators could be first on a hit list of 'people to be watched/scrutinised' (this was definitely the case during ww2 and the cold war) By going the legal route it opens the hobby to some amazing people only too pleased to help you and further your own knowledge base,so no bad thing,it also means that i won't be subject to scrutiny as an illegal operator
From my preliminary invstigations the equipment costs from as little as 25 quid for a portable hand held unit,not much bigger than a cigarette packet (hint, how easy would that be to put away somewhere and 'forget' ) which will transmit and receive over short local distances (10km dependent on conditions) and is very very entry level,but still 25 quid is very low to enter any new hobby and no great loss if i decide its not for me.Licensing and documentation to take my foundation exam (bare minimum to operate) possibly another 40-60 quid and after having put myself through a mock exam earlier(with only knowledge gained via ddgo and youtube) can't see any problem with me obtaining the foundation certification whatsoever which would then enable me to move to the intermediate level and subsequently the full licence holder holder level (levels roughly equates to how much 'power' you can transmit with and distances that will enable you to communicate,thats a very base explanation of it)
There is a ton of fantastic and amazing information available on youtube,so if you think it could be part of your prepping package/backup communication means, have a fish around and don't be put off with the jargonese etc.This could be a very real means of backup communication in times of crisis and up to now not mentioned a great deal but given folks dependence on the ubiquitous phone any sudden outage to established mobile networks effectively silences them,I see ham as a means of retaining my ability to communicate on MY terms not those dictated by governments
as a mischievous teen in the 80s we built our own FM radios to do pirate radio pantec kits if I remember correctly and yes they worked very well only needed a radio receiver to listen which most houses have very easily done, if you wish for community conversations a cobra 148 cb radio swap out the crystal's to improve the distances
2 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:
Well the bloody dailyfail can come round here and eat the contents of my cat litter tray, absolute government scientist arselickers:
that is pure class bro i friggin spat my coffee
6 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:
I was laughing at the woman behind him proper couldn't contain herself saw that before great though.
OMD universal song says it all really
3 hours ago, Macnamara said:
lets just hope that it isn't policy to put unjabbed people suffering from respiratory problems onto ventilators whilst they don't ventilate the jabbed
That could be paranoia but its something a few people have talked about in this thread and it would be great to have some data on that. We need a whistleblower!
i am on it as my sisters fella unjabbed against it. admitted to hospital with a ear infection in IRELAND within days was on a ventilator now deceased. Ive asked my sister to obtain his medical records from the hospital, need to know what treatment he was getting to deteriorate so frigging quickly he didn't test positive for covid on entry to hospital.
its a waiting game i assume, not the quickest to get info out of any hospital he was in his 50s physically active.
7 hours ago, Macnamara said:
Jewish Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla admits the First 2 doses offer little if ANY protection..and the booster only minimally better...What happened to "95% Efficacy ? What happened to "Keeps you out of hospital "..When are we going to wake up....
The Government is said to be drawing up plans for how we "live with covid" long-term without the need for any new restrictions.
Boris Johnson is expected to reveal the plan for how the UK can live with the virus in the future, setting out what restrictions we will see in the months ahead.
The Prime Minister said: "It is pointless keeping giving more and more vaccines to people who are not going to get very ill. We should just let them get ill and deal with that."
full article on link above, so it maybe its back tracking time now or not cos they change like the wind.
10 hours ago, Frankieboy said:
Received this on telegram
The UK government admits that the vaccines damaged the natural immune system of the double vaccinated.
The UK government has admitted that after a double vaccination one will never again be able to acquire complete natural immunity to variants of Covid - or possibly any other virus. So let's watch the "real" pandemic begin now!
In its Week 42 COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report, the UK Health Authority admits on page 23 that "N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of vaccine". It goes on to say that this drop in antibodies is basically permanent.
What does that mean? We know that the vaccines do not prevent the infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now infected much more often than those who are not). The British are now finding that the vaccine affects the body's ability to make antibodies not only against the spike protein, but also against other parts of the virus after infection. In particular, vaccinated people do not seem to produce antibodies against the nucleocapsid protein, the envelope of the virus, which is a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.
In the long term, those vaccinated are far more susceptible to possible mutations in the spike protein, even if they have already been infected and have been cured once or several times. Unvaccinated people, on the other hand, will gain permanent, if not permanent, immunity against all strains of the alleged virus after becoming naturally infected with it even once.
Source: https: //assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf
The first insurance companies are backing out because they are facing a huge wave of damage.
Anthony Fauci confirms that the PCR test cannot detect any live viruses.
Anthony Fauci confirms that neither the antigen test nor the PCR test can make a statement about whether someone is contagious or not!
This means that all the basics of the so-called pandemic are obsolete.
The PCR test was the only indication of a pandemic
No pandemic without a PCR TEST
For all members of the press, doctors, lawyers, public prosecutors, etc. This is the final key, the ultimate proof that the measures will all be lifted immediately
Can anyone in UK confirm this?!
actual wording bro
Small increases in Roche N seropositivity have recently been observed across all age groups (Table 6) compared to the previous 12-week period. Increases in the overall COVID-19 case rates in England have been observed across all age groups and regions in week 40 (Weekly national Influenza and COVID-19 surveillance report week 41). Roche S seropositivity in blood donors has plateaued and is now over 96% across all age groups. Seropositivity estimates for S antibody in blood donors are likely to be higher than would be expected in the general population and this probably reflects the fact that donors are more likely to be vaccinated. Seropositivity estimates for N antibody will underestimate the proportion of the population previously infected due to (i) blood donors are potentially less likely to be exposed to natural infection than age matched individuals in the general population (ii) waning of the N antibody response over time and (iii) recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination. Vaccination has made an important contribution to the overall Roche S increases observed since the roll out of the vaccination programme, initially amongst individuals aged 50 years and above who were prioritised for vaccination as part of the phase 1 programme and more recently in younger adults as part of phase 2 of the vaccination programme. Roche S levels by age group and month The Roche S assay that the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) uses for serological surveillance is fully quantitative, meaning that it measures the level of antibodies in a blood sample; an antibody level above 0.8 AU/ml (approximately one IU/ml using the WHO standard) is deemed positive. The PHE and UKHSA surveillance over the past few months has found that over 97% of the population of blood donors test positive for S-antibodies, which may have resulted from either COVID-19 infection or vaccination. With such high seropositivity, it is important to look at population antibody levels in order to assess the impact of the vaccination booster programme.
Figure 6 shows monthly categorised Roche S levels in N-antibody negative individuals by age group. Almost all tested S-antibody negative during December. In the 3 oldest age groups, the impact of first vaccine dose, then second vaccine dose, can be seen from December through June, as the profile of population antibody levels increases. Then from June through September the profile of antibody levels in these cohorts gradually decreases, consistent with waning. During October there is a small increase in percentage of donors with high antibody levels of 1000+ AU/ml for the 70 to 84 age group only, following the initiation of the booster programme. The higher profile of antibody levels in the youngest age group, is likely a result of a combination of factors including stronger immune responses in younger individuals and the higher antibody levels produced after mRNA vaccination. Figure 7 shows categorised Roche S levels in N-antibody positive individuals, those likely to have experienced past infection. Pre-vaccination antibody levels will be influenced by time since infection, variant and severity of infection, as well as personal factors such as underlying health conditions and age. At the start of the vaccination rollout in December antibody levels typically sat within the range of 0.8 to 1000 AU/ml, after vaccination antibody levels typically exceed 1000 AU/ml. Comparing Figure 6 with Figure 7, the overall higher profile of antibody levels in those who have experienced past infection is evident; both vaccination post infection and breakthrough infection following vaccination are expected to boost existing antibody levels. Researchers across the globe are working to better understand what antibody levels mean in terms of protection against COVID-19. Current thinking is that there is no threshold antibody level that offers complete protection against infection, but instead that higher antibody levels are likely to be associated with lower probability of infection.https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf
13 hours ago, BlueSky said:
Yes, eight as infinity makes sense. No end to what though? That's the question. Hmm.
Regarding hexagons. Very interesting about the shape of those buildings.
A couple of things I've come across in the past few days about hexagons. Old news I'm sure. But apparently there's a hexagon shape storm on Saturn at its North Pole. I also watched this video about a star. I've slowed down the video, but it's difficult to see whether it has six or eight sides at certain points. I was sitting next to Alexa in maths class :-). What do you think?
you are right on the infinity part, now the hexagon a cell? part of piece, or another way of putting it the human cell is in need of constant meds for infinity the vaxed anyway that's my thoughts. as the hexagon can if enough pieces can make the whole. or if hollow can make a net. cyber net maybe? sorry thinking out loud.
1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said:
Ouch. I feel more pain than through being wrong.
nar mate you tough cookie, takes a man to be honest. i tip my hat to you
23 minutes ago, alexa said:
Why is it they always like to pick on these Northerners, they always seem to come off the worst when anything happens ?
I honestly do not know tbh and i am a northerner likes of Manchester Liverpool and others up here, have a history through the ages of uniting against overarching by the ptb, and it does seem to be gaining momentum up here again. i see 50\50 mask wearers now even in the schools. so i guess the ptb are going to keep pushing and last time that happened i witnessed as a young person our cities burning as riots broke out and eventual spread country wide. but i think this is what they want tbh, i just hope it goes feck you we not playing anymore do one and they dont get there violence but we will see
5 minutes ago, alexa said:
Now the ARMY is sent on to hospital wards: Hundreds of squaddies will perform jobs caring for London's sick as Covid isolation rules force NHS staff to stay home.
What a performance
not only that but BBC did piece on northwest kids being defiant in schools not wearing masks got slaughtered in the comments by public supporting them, what a great surprise, northwest just named the hotpot for virus. time to punish the defiant ones. you couldn't make it up so bloody obvious now.
1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:
Can I please remind ALL MEMBERS of our Forum Rules, in particular about attacking other members here?
This is supposed to be a 'discussion forum' where people come together and 'discuss' topics of interest.
There may be any number of reasons why certain individuals have chosen to no longer participate in this forum, and if they have done so from their own free will then that's their choice.
I do not follow any 'cult of personality' nor am I bothered about upsetting 'long-standing' members or 'veterans' from previous iterations of this forum. As a moderator, I am tasked with ensuring that discussions taking place here are done so in good faith, and in accordance with the rules and guidelines that have been put in place. (I did not write up these forum rules, they have been rolled over from the previous forum, with some minor amendments to bring them up to date in line with this new forum software)
Anyone here who just wants to 'shit-stir' and stir up discontent and cause arguments and bickering amongst members is quite frankly not welcome.
It is disappointing to know that people who have made good quality contributions here have decided to leave, but then again I'm not surprised really. Any good quality contribution has a tendency to be drowned out by 'derailing' or off-topic baiting, snidey remarks and trolling, alongside the never-ending stream of what I call 'dumping' - posting topics or replies just lazily copy-pasted from elsewhere.
To those complaining about posters no longer with us, ask yourself what exactly it is that YOU contribute to this forum, and what is it that you can do to improve things?
I don't want this forum to end up like Godlike Productions, Truth-Zone or ATS. Do you?
now @grumpy owl that's exactly what i was trying to say above, you have put it in a better way. out of likes but thank you
2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:
This is nothing, even to a 'soft midlander' like myself!
I did find it interesting how the NHS presents the 'direct effects' of winter weather as being very similar to effects encountered from receiving vaccine jabs.
But then again, people who choose to dress like it is still summer will more likely expect those kinds of consequences.
I've got my big coat and some warm jumpers, so I'm perfectly fine.
yeah spot on bro throw on the cromby scarf if needed everything is pure scare tactics even bit of hail rain or thunderstorms pure hysteria in todays society
there has been a marked decrease in users posting on this forum messenger is also missing, i nearly packed in as well.
disagreements okay, but to either speed read or deliberately twist things is NOT on just to put people down.
now since the hack and then the new forum thing which GI wanted lots of us came together to keep this forum up and running and we succeeded, i personally wont block anyone, only person i blocked ever was the hacker and his numerous accounts trying to pm me. mods can check this i am sure.
i don't ever engage in belittling anyone snide remarks or over inflate my EGO.
If i make an error i will gracefully accept it, with an acknowledgement in open forum.
i will answer a post to such people once and once only and move on as not to give it any more power or to dis-rail the current thread. now INK BC and EVE helped me as i was just a reader across this the one before and the other DI forum. never posted i struggled with embedding links the aforementioned helped me to get to grips with it and yes i was gutted when it was all lost.
i have a good picture in my mind of who i am suspicious about, and none of those are listed or currently posting on this thread.
its the negative vibe that's killing this forum it gets to much.
my mutual respect to each and everyone of you, because without you this forum would NOT be around.
33 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said:
Thing is, even when I saw this in the media, how do we know it's true? I was just analyzing footage of a protester being bitten by police dogs and he's clearly wearing padding under his clothes and police issue shoes. PsyOps, False Flags, Hoaxes, Controlled Opposition, Agent Provocateurs, Crisis Actors, Trolls, Bots and Shills everywhere.
would that be the Netherlands video by any chance when the dog latches on to the guy and is also being hit on the arm by the cop?
2 hours ago, Orange Alert said:
If I was on that staff, I would express my profound fear of seeing masked people. That should short-circuit the zoom meetings.
sorry my hearing aint that good, need to lip read equality laws.
1 minute ago, PatriotGirl said:
Several people got shot in Europe and Asia recently
i will do search when finished on here thanks for info, then it would seem not the case then i totally agree we be fecked
"Viral Shedding" / Can we get infected with the Covid vaccine from someone who took it?
in Covid-19 & NWO
nope i tend to fully agree, now if we take our friendly GPs they used to go from home to home treating elderly and young alike, Drs never became ill seeing to all these patients, hows that work ? think as ye be, your thoughts are powerful for fact