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Oh yeah, it's that type of book isn't it. :) 'The Dream' does help with some of the threads Icke starts in The Trap. Actually I think it feels like The Trap and The Dream are two parts of one book. To understand the way the entities think and behave you have to understand narcissism. If you are pissing the entities off they will send human narcissists into your life. If they think you are a threat to them they can recycle you into a family full of narcissists just to screw with you. I highly recommend the YouTube channel of Dr..Les Carter to anyone wanting to learn all about narcissists. Have you had any experience of narcissists? Once you understand how the entities think and behave things make a lot more sense. There is outside help (outside of the simulation and astral). The entities can't stop it, they try to interfere with it, which is why you get some help like you mentioned but other times you don't. They already do. It could be either. Just never assume that what you're seeing is the person you think it is, especially if it is fulfilling a longing or deep emotional wound. In a way it's yes and no. Once you're fully out you could help others. Reincarnation is unnecessary when you're fully disconnected from the system. The entities don't want to be us. THEY have nothing but contempt for us, but they want to use us. At the same time they think they are perfect beings. They think that because they are psychopathic narcissists. As the conflict in the astral is getting worse for them (and they had a massive setback in 2020) more of them are coming here in human form. They 'possess' people. In Robert Bruce's books he calls them NEGS. They want to turn us into pure energy source. They are doing this through filtering off the parts of us that prevent it. That's where the transhumanism comes into it. Some have already been transformed while others have escaped completely. Now it's just a matter of who is still in the simulation and where they will end up. All we are to the entities is energy supply. They let us run around in the simulation world just to keep us producing energy for them. But they figured out more efficient ways of doing this and they are in the process of doing that. That's just a means to an end for them. They are getting more desperate for more efficient and better 'highs'. Always question everything, and then question more, and then some more. You get the idea. :) The entities hate a mind like yours, one who questions, thinks and looks for what is going on. Your attitude is also good for making the entities think you are "more trouble than you're worth". They want easy energy supply (they are lazy by nature) so when a being is giving them a hard time they want rid of you. They hate being seen. Once you see them for what they are it infuriates them.

The vegan push by THEM is about several things. One of those is getting people to eat more processed food. THEY produce 'easy to cook' ready processed food for vegans, while someone else might eat steak or chicken. Also they are promoting meal replacement drinks for vegans and tons of artificial supplements full of junk. Part of this is to destroy people's digestive system with inflammation. It is part of the transhumanism they want to push on people. There's nothing wrong with being vegan, but everything wrong with the vegan agenda being pushed by the mainstream. If someone is vegan they should cook only wholefoods and avoid all premade food and protein drinks. The only answer I can give you for that is trust your gut, your intuition, and try and get as much experience as you can. Test it. Question your experience and see what happens. It's also a good idea to improve your memory and if you have any trauma or deep grief try to face that in a safe way so you don't get pulled into it elsewhere. The important thing is you need to be able to stay conscious, with conscious memories, when you are below 3-4Hz frequency. Most people fall asleep below 8Hz and forget most of their consciousness experience during 'sleep'. You want to be 'asleep' but aware of yourself and remembering it when you wake up from your 'sleep'. The system wants us to believe it controls everything but it doesn't. The entities behind it do not have our creative ability. They use a type of non physical AI to run the simulation but we create our experience. THEY spend enormous amounts of time trying to influence our perception with propaganda and fake implanted memories. THEY also use trauma and conditioning. So based on this it makes sense that we, divine sparks as Icke puts it, create some animals. Some are conscious some are not. Certain animals seem to be particularly empathetic and try to help us in different ways.

It would certainly explain a lot. It might explain changes when you rewatch a show or movie. That's easily doable. The technology, and the system, could do that as you are watching. With digital rendering and now how they are using images of dead actors, I can see how completely individualised TV shows could be produced. You and your friend could have watched the same TV show but you both get different versions. Look at the deaging and many other effects. It's easy to create an image of any actors doing anything. I wonder how much of this has to do with why the big studios and corporations fought so hard with the actors and writers over AI in the strikes last year. It makes a lot of sense. Two of my friends had a big fight over a show they both liked and talked about. One said he had dropped it after two episodes in season 7 where there were back to back flashbacks and then a whole episode where it was set in a courtroom, which he described as boring. He said at that point it had gone crap and he wasn't going to waste his time on it. The other friend said none of that happened. They agreed to sit down to watch the episodes. The one who has dropped the show could not believe what he was watching, he was truly baffled by the fact episodes were completely different to what he had seen. He was so freaked out by it he wouldn't talk about it after that.

I don't see how it would stop them from taking your children. There also needs to be recognition that some parents do neglect and abuse kids. The state seems to want to ignore abusive parents while going after innocent families. Like during the Satanic Panic when they went after people for nothing but bs while the people going after those families were actually satanic. It was also a time of power struggles between those groups. Your children aren't really your property, and some people could abuse that if they were. For example if Gary Glitter paid surrogates and kept his children locked up to abuse them how could anyone stop that if his children are treated as property? And what would stop child trafficking if people could own children as property? Seems like a step backwards into slavery. If you could say a human is property then why not adults too? It's seems like a bad idea.

I see what you're saying but most films, and especially TV shows, have big enough plot points that if they change completely it's not an edit. Also with the internet it's pretty easy to check if there was an objective edit. I'm referring to people's personal perspective not an objective one. By your rules no one could discuss the Mandela effect either.

Ultimately there are several layers or levels to this and whether something is positive or negative. For example... 1.The World, or how you perceive it. 2. Your unconscious states. Your experiences while unconscious and whether you remember them or not, and how you perceive those experiences. 3. Your internal psychological state. Ultimately everyone is responsible for whether they feel negative or positive at any given moment. I would add that David Icke has no responsibility for being negative or positive for others. He just presents the information, how people feel about it is their choice. When we start taking responsibility for our thoughts, feelings and reactions things get better. Feeling the world is terrible = feeling terrible about the world = a terrible world. Makes you wonder what kind of worlds people would start creating all over the place if they leave this one. We live in a universe based on laws/rules. The basis of this relies on positive and negative energy, ergo everything is naturally dualistic. There is nothing bad about duality, if it didn't exist neither would you or anything else! Conflict has nothing to do with duality.

It's ok for you to admit you were wrong. But there was a discussion you have missed out on. Your choice. :)

Your sentence doesn't make sense. Can you rephrase your question?

You should read this. AA is a religious group according to the LAW "AA is religious. Court cases repeatedly find that Alcoholics Anonymous is religious in nature. As a result, no agent of government may legally require anyone to attend AA. The AA is Based on Religion Founders of AA were members of a Protestant Christian movement. It was the Oxford Group. Its members “practiced absolute surrender, guidance by the Holy Spirit, sharing in fellowship, life changing faith, and prayer. They aimed for absolute standards of Love, Purity, Honesty, and Unselfishness, which later became an integral part of A.A.”.

The AA is Christian in nature. It was founded by Christians and requires surrender to the God of the Bible. https://www.alcoholproblemsandsolutions.org/aa-is-religious-what-you-need-to-know-about-alcoholics-anonymous/

Simply put you're either willingly ignorant of how people recruit people into religion or you know you're trying to trick others. It's not about the meaning of one word! It is about WHOLE PRACTICES within the context of the group. The AA, like the Alpha group network, and indeed other religions/cults who are trying to recruit members, such as Scientology, do not explicitly say so in their literature etc. as obviously that defeats the purpose. In fact Scientology explicitly says anyone of any religion can join (but their practices conflict with this), and the Freemasons use the same tactic. They say anyone can join, but then It's a different matter once they think people are committed to them. Quakers do this too. To be fair so do many others. Another tactic for religious/cult recruitment is ADDICTION. They offer help to vulnerable people who then feel grateful to the group and conform to the group beliefs. What is going on is they (AA etc.) replace the addiction with the religious compulsive behaviour. Here is the link to the way Scientology offers addiction help like the AA does. https://www.scientology.org.uk/how-we-help/narconon/ I'm not saying that any of these people don't have good intentions, and there are good and bad people in any group, but the religion and group will always be put before the individuals treatment needs and that can compromise their recovery from addiction. I've seen many people fall back into addiction once they left the religion/cult. All these groups say that "it doesn't matter what your beliefs are" because if they told you explicitly they want to recruit you it would put people off using them - nobody wants the hard sell!! I know many people in real life, and you can read many experiences of people online, where they went to AA and at first it wasn't explicitly Christian but when it got down to it they were approached by one person who would then want to discuss faith with them, ask if they owned a Bible (offered a free one) and this only came on fully usually between Steps 3 onwards. I also know that Alpha groups are recommending people go to AA if people mention addiction. Also there are people at AA who also run Alpha groups (Christian recruitment groups). Also Alpha, including their website, also says you can be an atheist (or any faith) to go along to their meetings. https://alpha.org.uk/ The psychology of cult recruitment is always the same and it always starts with them hiding their motivation to recruit members. So you posting a link to a page from AA doing exactly that, trying to sound impartial when they are not, only goes to prove that their strategy is covert recruitment. It's exactly the same dishonesty that has always been used by cults everywhere. Also Christians will tell you that "everyone is Christian under God". This means the AA while not explicitly a church they consider themselves a group of people "joined together as (sinful) sufferers" UNDER GOD (HIM the God of the Bible. Their CHURCH is their group. It is very interesting that you are trying to cover up any potential religious recruitment behaviour at the AA. Why are you so invested? You are acting like some obsessed cult member who feels threatened if people have all information available to them before getting involved with something. I want people to decide for themselves with full knowledge of the what they are getting into. You, on the other hand, are deliberately trying to mislead people and stop them from hearing ALL SIDES of the argument. Your behaviour is typically what you see in people biased in favour of a group/religion/cult. I have known a few people who had good things to say about AA, but they were Christians already, but I have heard not so good things from more people, especially about pressure to conform to CHRISTIAN VALUES. Christians don't walk up to you and give you a member badge , they simply persuade you to "live like a Christian", which is in fact being a Christian! I know a divorced guy who had sexual orientation problems. He had been been unhappily married for over ten years, obviously due to his sexual orientation doubts his marriage ended. He turned to drinking, which was always something he leaned on, but it got out of hand, so he went to AA. Next he was spouting the Bible and saying he felt "guilty" a lot. After talking to him for a bit he explained that at AA his sexual orientation doubts had come up and they told him that they don't hate homosexuals it's just that "it's sinful". They told him it would badly affect his relationship with God (which is essential to the 12 step PROGRAM) and stop his healing. He said there were some others there not comfortable with this but they kept quiet. As a qualified professional I have treated many people who have addiction issues. I have heard the same things about the AA from many different people. People should be allowed to make their choice about whether it not to use AA with the truth in front of them. Somewhere along the way in your life (your parents didn't listen to you) you learned that throwing a tantrum will get people to listen to you, in fact they weren't listening (which you knew) - you were using intimidating behaviour just to get their ATTENTION, so now you incorrectly equate ATTENTION with being listened to. It certainly explains why in your comments you repeatedly say you "are not posting this... for anyone to respond to...". You are avoiding rejection of your comments by saying "hey, I don't care what you think..." in advance of anyone saying anything to you. It's a common coping mechanism in a person like yourself who is avoiding rejection as they are hyper sensitive to it from childhood. Also if you receive any response that is an opinion different to yours you perceive that as rejection of YOU. What we commonly see in people with those problems is that they then get angry, become violent, verbally aggressive and throw tantrums, smash things, scream and shout. You see that pattern in children, young adults etc. And of course in adults if they become isolated in adulthood as they didn't learn how to cope with rejection (which is a normal part of life).

Seriously, do you ever even check something before thinking you know all about it? You are completely wrong about AA. The AA IS Christian values, there's no "might be" about it. Step 3 in the AA 12 steps says, "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him." Steps 5-7 reads, "Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings." Step 11 says, "Sought through PRAYER and meditation to improve our conscious contact with GOD as we understood HIM, praying only for knowledge of HIS WILL for us and the power to carry that out.". So explain how an atheist can go through the AA 12 Step Program????? Literally the two men who started it, and the third who helped them were all Christian and evangelists. And when they refer to GOD, HIM and GOD'S WILL they do mean the Abrahamic God of the Bible!!!! You admitting you went to AA meetings but you're not an addict is just disrespectful to others. Although from the fact that you obviously don't know what you're talking about it sounds like you're making it up that you went to meeting just as spectator of people who are suffering, or as you put it have "f**ked up lives"..

The pandemic back fired on THEM. They did it to speed up their plans, but they overplayed their hand and it exposed them. You have to know your enemy to defeat them. They had been hiding for a long time before 2020. They really underestimated the strength of will against them. It showed a lot of people what governments and the police really are, mindless thugs and lackeys for the one global group, who in turn are servants to the entities they stupidly worship through their secret societies. Amazingly until then there were still many who had no idea they were living in a global police state. Anyone now still defending THEM is either part of them or brainwashed enough to stay in the system. Those of us who resonate with love, joy and kindness will be in the manifestation of those. I am sure you'll see some cynical responses to this truth but that doesn't matter. Everyone will end up with what they resonate with in their heart and soul.

He actually did. Just to clarify I was not joking. Eckhart talks about it on his website and he got side effects from it.

There's a lot of those.

There are lots of NPCs in the simulation.

If this has already been discussed let me know. I find it interesting and I've heard and read about it from many people. If there is another thread please link to it. The phenomena of watching a movie or TV show, then sometime later watching it again but it has changed. Could be a scene, the ending, a character died/or didn't but they had died before when you watched it, and other things. I suppose it's similar to the Mandela effect but it does seem different also. Has it happened to you? Which movies or TV was it? What had changed and when? I've seen people arguing about this to the point they swear something was a completely different thing, so it's not just bad memory. Sure there must be sometimes when people are wrong about it but it's happening a lot more than that would explain.

Different types of synchronicity exists. It's also different within the simulation, the astral and in other 'places'. I think the simulation has refined it's use of synchronicity over time. The internet is a physical/non physical crossover for this. One aspect of synchronicity is THEY use it to f**k with our ability to understand probability. Interesting what you said about the YouTube recommendations. I see a lot of comments on yt that express surprise at a video being recommended, or even only released a few hours before, when it was 'synchronistic' to them. How much of that is physical machine based is debatable. Also another weird phenomenon (have you experienced this?) is movies or TV having synchronicity with something instantly happening or just before or after?

Amber Heard is drawn to Elon Musk for the same reason she was drawn to Johnny Depp, they are all narcissists. It's horrific when a narcissist gets into a relationship with someone who isn't, as you have seen, but put two of them together and it goes ballistic! Hence the car crash of the Depp/Heard sideshow. Johnny Depp is just like Russell Brand. They function on a similar level for the elite. The BDSM is being normalised, a big part of that was the 'fifty shades' crap. While men are getting addicted to visual porn no one is talking about WOMEN BEING ADDICTED TO 'EROTICA'. Erotica is seen as acceptable, respectable, and sure you can't compare it to the PRODUCTION harm of visual pornography, but it's just as harmful to the mind, body and soul of the person consuming it. It's become so normalised now that streaming services like Spotify offer it on their main page with no age filter. They even offer you a quiz (repeatedly when you open the app) to "find out what kind of hot you are". They are even playing down the porn aspect of it by reframing it as 'spicy'. Why are my friends happy for their wives and gfs to sit upstairs in their bedroom alone reading erotica and using fake dicks up themselves but it's not ok for them to wank off to porn in the next room? My point is both are harmful and destructive but we give a free pass for women and erotica. I know plenty of male friends who even like her to do that alone as it means she's 'ready for a quick one' as she got all the build up out of the way. Seriously, that is how a lot of humans are interacting in intimate relationships now. Rape erotica is becoming more common too, they are encouraging women into rape fantasies. One of my friends said he would never have thought of it but his wife read in some of her erotica about 'raping' him anally with a strap on while it is a rape fantasy of her getting revenge on him in that roleplay. He said he enjoyed it when they got one and acted it out. Smh. That's the way the entities use sex. It's about submission and humiliation. Because it's all draining of your energy and being. Yet again it comes back to sacrificing yourself to them. They can't force you, they need your agreement. So they make it 'sexy' and appealing to get people to fall for it. Ironically they use the 'religious taboo' bs to push you into agreement with it otherwise you're called a prude. Reverse psychology. Absolutely. Oh yeah, they do that. It's interesting when you compare those behaviours with how they use the same tactics to control their celeb and political lackeys. I can't say the names of them, but as an example there was a couple who were 'introduced' to each other (before they were famous, up and coming at the time) by a much older mutual acquaintance (they usually do that, they use someone they admire and will take the advice of, it's the way the hierarchy functions). She is a psychopath narcissist and he isn't. Anyway they married. Then he wasn't towing the line or keeping to the 'program' and bam, they show him video of her in extreme pornography and said it would be leaked to the press if he didn't do as they said. He walked. He divorced her. She tried to ruin his life. She was happy to make the disgusting videos. Often with celebs they will place a narcissist with someone who isn't just to control them. Often using disgusting or humiliating secrets to blackmail them. A good example of that is Will Smith. Had that other guy not walked he might have ended up like Will Smith. The grooming aspect is common in the entertainment industry. And if people refuse to play along they get their careers and life damaged. Look at Shia Lebouf, he turned down being groomed into the cult by Speilberg and look what they have done to him since. Shame though Lebouf has got sucked into religion instead. I always find it strange how people boast how much money they got to do something. As if it justifies their compromise of their self respect. Humans have allowed themselves to become commodities. It's like the ridiculous fees for sports people or movie actors, brainwashing to make "selling yourself to the highest bidder" something to aspire to. Theroux talked to the porn actors about how many friends of theirs in the industry had committed suicide or overdosed and it was very common. They were so apathetic about it like it just didn't matter. Porn drives people into apathy as it destroys their sense of self and they are disassociating all the time. And they are usually on lots of different drugs. Just to begin with do you have conscious awareness in the astral? I understand that it is more complicated than just the 'astral' but we have to use language even if that language is limited to certain perceptions and ideas. An understanding of the experience of the Astral is vital in getting out of the simulation in a controlled way (or back in and out again). There are other ways but they are unreliable and cause more unpredictable outcomes. You might really want to leave but get trapped by trauma or attachments to this world. No matter who it is they don't give you up easily. But it helps if you make yourself more trouble to them than your worth to them energy wise. On a side note they value creative energy, because they have none. Not everyone's energy is the same. One of the reasons the entities have turned physical creativity into corruption in the movies, music etc. industries is that they want to control the types of beings attracted to that. Science is another one of those traps within traps, Spirituality is another. Are you fully consciously aware when you are 'asleep'? How good is your memory? How comfortable are you being alone? How did you cope during the pandemic? I'm not suggesting you answer these, they are quite personal, but more so to ask yourself. Maybe that will bring up discussion that will be useful.

Some, like Russell Brand, can't tolerate being alone. Narcissists NEED constant attention. Even in their non physical form they stay together in 'hives' simply to avoid being alone with their own being.

Then you might want to read this... GPT-4 gives medical advice that saves doctors' time but can also be harmful | New Scientist "The AI that powers ChatGPT could save doctors' time when responding to cancer-related queries, but also gives potentially harmful recommendations in around 7 per cent of cases. Oncologists generally thought GPT-4 would make them more efficient at responding to queries, but said the model also gives worrying recommendations.". Mmmm...that certainly would cull more of the population wouldn't it. Maybe it's intended to make 'mistakes'. So in fact it knows what it is doing. It could be trying to mimic the imperfections of human errors. It could be trying to convince us it is not a threat. Just assuming it doesn't know it is making mistakes is ironically a big mistake.

The system uses the generational recycling of 'life' as a control mechanism. Like the example you just gave about people having grown up embedded into a more immersive technology. Our 'gut' tells us things like that. Good point that even though, (and maybe because of?) people having more therapy people's mental health is getting worse. Years ago people just talked to each other about their problems and they were more prepared to sit down with their own thoughts. People knew you had to go through your feelings, experience those feelings, that it was natural. You knew it was ok to be sad, it wasn't called 'depression' all the time. Some children were were active than others, it's not a mental illness to be a naughty child FFS! But nowadays all children are getting diagnosed with something. First the system distracted us with technology, separates us from others, and children not playing together much anymore, then causes people to feel psychologically affected by that, then it offers the 'solution' of therapy, where it is just reprogramming you to become transhuman. People are scared to feel anything now. Any fear, good or bad is labelled 'anxiety'. I think the system is using therapy as TRANSHUMANISM PSYCHOLOGY. People are focusing on the physical transhumanism but overlooking the psychological transhumanism agenda and I think therapy for everyone is part of that. They want to change our natural psychology to their artificial way of emotional indifference and even further into artificial intelligence. Unfortunately those who do that will be stuck in the system, of course by their own choice. Smh.

As men we need to stop looking to be a 'patriarch'. It is a construct to control and limit us to be a certain way. It's why then people fall for it when someone. like Peterson comes along and tells them 80% of what they want to hear so they will also be persuaded by the 20% the system is programming into you. It's all a scam. The amount of times I hear people, including many of my friends, say "I know Peterson is no guru or saviour...." then they proceed to identify with his way of life and follow his beliefs - that is exactly the definition of a guru or saviour! I disagree. It's got worse for everyone. It just appears to have gotten better for some. The things that really matter, having a home, food and being able to give a good life to your loved ones has got worse for EVERYONE. Your PERCEPTION has been screwed with by the system. Women had basic rights denied, while men (who in the majority still had a shit life) were given perks, advantages over women. No offense to women but women were put in a position by the system to be the 'reward' for men for taking all the shit the system threw at men. Men were slaves to the system (as women were, except women knew it), but men have mistakenly thought they were free. Now women are no longer 'rewards' for men from the system (to distract them and keep them happy from what the system is really doing to men) men are only just now realising how shit their lives really are - BUT IT WAS THAT WAY ALL ALONG!!! The system, the entities, tricked us. ... No. There is no "but". Most of the world is in poverty, but women and children still suffer the worst poverty. That is the only measure that really matters. Everything else is window dressing. Also women and children are the largest numbers of victims of trafficking, sexual violence and other violence. When it comes down to brutal, REAL HUMAN SUFFERING AND PAIN women and children have it worse than us men. And on a side note sexual violence by men on men is increasing with their anger and disaffection generally. Young boys are particularly vulnerable to that trend. We all need to stop taking gender sides to put any of this right. To be a man is to be honest with ourselves about the terrible pain and suffering of the humanity around us, not focus on if we have the upper hand over women anymore! It's a losing game. The entities rigged it that way. I honestly think the word "brutal" is more than an exaggeration in the context you're speaking of, especially when you look at the daily violence still experienced by billions of women and children worldwide today. Everyone is suffering by being in the system. Point scoring is nothing but an energy feeding frenzy for the entities watching this 'sport' of theirs.

That's true. I know this is going to be unpopular but... Jordan Peterson is the 'thinking man's' Andrew Tate. He is yet another puppet, a brand of soap powder to fulfil the role of 'shepherd' to a lot of disaffected men. I see it in my friends, they have been conditioned by society to see themselves and other men as 'leaders', so the system provides them with a father figure to aspire to be. Textbook psychological manipulation. It's like we're all in a lifeboat with a psychopath but instead of looking at what the psychopath is doing we're arguing that one half of the people in the boat should kneel down to us. It's insanity. It's actually quite frustrating to see adults behaving like children because Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan or Russell Brand fulfils the way they would like to see themselves. Women are different. They tend not to look for leaders. They behave differently in groups. While men fight for pole position women have a more practical mentality of survival, they work better as a group. That is why suicide rates and depression is higher in men. It's also why married men are healthier and live longer than single men. Women are just better at survival as a group. It is also why men are becoming disaffected in the first place. Let me explain. The system sets up both sides (men and women) - THE SYSTEM CONDITIONS THEM INTO PROGRAMMED ROLES - those roles are not naturally occurring. Then it proceeds to persecute women on mass. They use sex as a weapon in particular and many other aspects of life. Women ended up as second class humans and men have had it exactly the way they wanted it (or at least for some who thought it was what they wanted - but they were still dissatisfied). Men thought we were in control, leaders, fathers - running the show! But it was all a set up for the fall to come. The entities planned to make men feel they 'had it all' so they could use it to weaponize their anger at "losing it all" later. Geezus, the amount of my friends who get triggered by this is truly disturbing. WAKE UP GUYS, YOU'RE BEING USED - by the entities. Then women start to gain rights, freedom and independence - things EVERYONE should have. But then men got pissed about this as they have been conditioned to treat women like shit. How could we accept women as our equals and be the supposed 'leaders of men'. Sooooo... along came men like Jordan Peterson to give them a focus, a 'voice' and an archetype of who they see themselves as. IT'S ALL A SCAM OF THE SYSTEM.

You did bring it up. You might not identify with any labels but you live in a world that judges you on labels. A woman or man, black or white etc. While it is good to avoid giving labels to yourself it is foolish to think others won't see according to their perceived labels. It's not right but it is the way it is.