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  1. On 12/26/2023 at 9:40 AM, Grumpy Grapes said:

    He wrote on his website:

     

    "Karma does not exist except as encoded algorithms in the simulation that we know as the ‘laws of physics’. Karma is a key part of the trap. It is because ‘karma’ is encoded in the demonic simulation, which we call the human world, that demons and their gofers can override the ‘karmic consequences’ of what they do."

     

    https://davidicke.com/2023/12/26/karma-does-not-exist-except-as-encoded-algorithms-in-the-simulation-that-we-know-as-the-laws-of-physics-karma-is-a-key-part-of-the-trap-it-is-because-karma-is-encoded-in-the-demonic-simulati/

     

    He says that "karma does not exist..." then proceeds to give karma an existence by describing it as "encoded algorithms".

     

    How does he know that the 'demons' and 'gofers' can "...override the 'karmic consequences' of what they do." ???

     

    I don't think they can do so. Are the demons AI algorithms themselves?

     

    For me, karma (aka cause-and-effect) has to be real in all dimensions of reality because there has to be a universal mechanism that allows all of us to interact meaningfully with each other, otherwise it would be chaos. There needs to be a cosmic mirror that allows us all to accurately pass judgment on oneself and each other. 

     

    Our crazy holographic realm is a distorted mirror (like a funfair hall of mirrors), but it is a mirror nevertheless.

     

    The evil Queen in Snow White doesn't like it when her magic mirror tells her a truth that she doesn't like. The Rebel Creator of this realm also doesn't like karma/truth/consequences.

    David is simply saying that within the "dream" illusion, we experience karma and the reincarnation trap as just that a trap, a trick, to keep us here, so that they can harvest energy from us (divine sparks)-(harvesting energy or looshing us).  Our "perception" has been deceived/distorted.

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  2. 6 hours ago, Jenbell said:

    Finished the dream and its a great book overall but also alot of repeating from previous book (s). Not necessarily a bad thing if thats the first DI book you read but for me that read a few of his books it can actually gets a little boring and I lose focus. 

     

     

    He claims that plants and animals can be conscious but is that the same as a divine spark 🤔 Divine spark = consciousness?

     

    When he mentions sprit groups how are they even able to incarnate together when "they"are deciding where you should incarnate. Why would they allow awakening sparks to join together in the same family 🤔 

     

    Why is it important to get out while the simulation is on,? that is what he stated at the very end of the book but never said why but then he also said that prime earth will just appear when the game is over 🤔 Sometimes I notice that he writes a few different things about the same thing lol

     

    Theories or thoughts on that. I definitely could have missed something from the book aswell 🥲

    My favorite chapters of The Dream are 1, 4, 11, 12, 13.  I do not mind the repitition of previous books, in fact, I am grateful, as these views are not normally easy for me to understand, so hearing them again, is very helpful.  Also David's views resonate with me, and even he states, there is always more to know.  

  3. On 3/6/2024 at 11:27 AM, novymir said:

    I know people involved, and I have gone to meetings myself(I've been around; here, there, and lots of places in between) , though I'm not an "addict" or "alcoholic". And I can say it's bullshit that anyone "has to worship the Abrahamic God" to use it.

     

    And also, the so-called "Christian values" that might be a part of it are nothing that any honest and considerate person would try to name as being "evil" or manipulative in an "evil" way. They're just general principles, like The Golden Rule.

     

    Honesty is like rule number 1.   Starting with self-honestly.

     

    Actually the whole thing is about expanding awareness and learning of the self-defeating, and self-limiting programs(liabilities) that have been operating within their mind and reducing the effect of those and increasing the effects of those characteristics that are assets.

     

    People can use it and take it anyway they want. The only "requirement" for membership is an honest desire to stop using whatever they're using that is part of a fucked up and unmanageable life. 

     

    And I'm not going to argue or debate about it.

     

    It's just kind of funny how some people will basically say it's "such and such", and "this and that", and those things that they suggest just happen to cast a shadow of doubt and bias against the subject, which is just reflective of their own inner bias which is based on their personal worldview and limited hearsay.

     

    Actually it's one of the few groupings of people that isn't co-opted. Though agents are in it, and do try to subvert things here and there, it's like that everywhere, including this forum.

     

     

     

     

    The truth is this program can end up saving people from dying before they have enough awareness to avoid falling into "The Trap", and facilitate the chance of gaining that awareness. It's not the only way, but it's one proven to work as advertised for many people.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This is wonderfully well said.  It resonates with all that I have researched.  Thank you

  4. On 3/7/2024 at 9:22 AM, Phil26 said:

     

    The AA is Christian in nature. It was founded by Christians and requires surrender to the God of the Bible.

    https://www.alcoholproblemsandsolutions.org/aa-is-religious-what-you-need-to-know-about-alcoholics-anonymous/

     

    It appears that they focus on God in general, as in Higher Power and leave it to the individual to form their own concept of God.  Christianity contains info about God, but it is of course diluted by lower frequency Wetiko, etc.. but when we use our Divine Sparks we over ride the deception program an see All that is, has been, Ever Can Be, God, Infinity Awareness in awareness of Itself, etc.. I try to avoid "contempt prior to investigation" you know what I mean?

  5. David does say how to get out of this perception deception in his books, especially in his latest book, "The Dream".  I found that he goes over many wrong things all the while letting us know how we can wake up, but never does David impose his views on us.  I think there is nothing more "positive" and strong than that.

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  6. I am not sure this is a topic, but a question.  Does anyone know what David Icke's views on the AA 12 Step recovery program are.  I am currently studying David Icke's works for the last almost 3 years now and my mind is now wide open, and naivete is pretty much gone.  I have friends in the 12 Step program and it is helping them greatly, and they exhibit a nonjudging open mind.  Thanks for any comments about this in advance.  

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