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On 7/1/2023 at 6:15 AM, Jim1 said:
Our senses of smell and taste fill a home with love and joy when a favorite meal is being prepared and shared with family and friends. Our hearing is so sensitive it can enjoy and produce beautiful music. We see in vivid color and the world around us is amazingly colorful. A sense of touch that we all need and without which there would be no lovemaking.
. Although I no longer believe in the God of the Bible I still see all of these 5 senses as gifts from a loving source.
I have recently continued to read/listen to David Icke's books and listen to him on podcasts. The answer to my question above is in the word simulation. The reality we perceive is not a creation by the Archons but a simulation or a lower vibratory copy of what Icke calls "prime reality". Our bodies are like an extremely advanced virtual reality perceiver of our surroundings limiting us to 3D perception only.
I'm not 100 percent sold on this but I totally accept his exposing of the global elites trying to centralize power and enslave us all and that they are doing the bidding of evil non-human entities who are harvesting our low energy fear, anger, pain etc. (loosh). I think he might be right about the reincarnation cycling program run by these evil entities also. Check out Isabella Greenes' book Leaving The Trap. Reading her book brought me back to reconsider David Icke's work.
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On 7/1/2023 at 11:21 PM, The All Eye said:
I don't believe in the God of any Bible, but do believe in a Higher Power, All Source, All Love...or just plainly called, God. God means whatever it means to YOU. A religious text just gives you that belief's version of what they think God is.
On 7/4/2023 at 9:21 AM, Ethel said:You are right, there is beauty to be found here. I don't conceptualize our overall God as something separate from us, our soul is an aspect of God.
I agree with both of you!
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1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
Who controls China? The British Empire and American 'soft power' had a profound influence on China and the Far East.
Who started 19th century Communism? It wasn't China, but a European invention.
You seem to have read Freeman's book very quickly. Just over a week?
So for those reasons we should not be concerned about China? Or should we look at the evidence to see whether an undermining is actually taking place?
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On 7/3/2023 at 4:03 PM, 78ast78dgyad said:
The premise of your question is wrong.
They don't want us dead. They want to drain our energy
Look up Agenda 2030, I would use DuckDuckGo. It's about how the globalists want to reduce the world's population to about half a billion people. It's now over 8 billion. However since posting this question I have read the book According To Plan by Kevin Freeman which claims that everything we're seeing is simply a planned communist takedown of the USA spearheaded by China. Find the book Unrestricted Warfare: China's Master Plan To Destroy America on Amazon. I almost think any other theory is an intended distraction. I'm just thinking out loud though.
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On 11/21/2021 at 6:01 AM, Dolly said:
I am seeing a lot of contents on Facebook groups and on rumble claiming that David Icke is "controlled oposition". However, these are only statements not backed by facts. David Icke was a pioneer in waking up the sleeping masses. He has a large body of work. Many people are better informed and better prepared to deal with whatever we are facing now, which BTW he predicted. So, unless you have concrete evidence, don't throw out baseless accusations.
I am reading a book titled According To Plan by Kevin Freeman. He is saying that what we are experiencing is purely a communist takedown of the USA from within especially orchestrated by China. All the far left DINOs are total communists and are working to undermine everything that America has historically stood for and then have no impediment to controlling the whole world. Two Chinese military strategists wrote a book laying out the whole plan. That book has been translated to English and has been available on Amazon since at least as far back as 2010. Right under our noses! The book is Unrestricted Warfare: China's Master Plan To Destroy America . The reason I think this is relevant to this post is that I wonder if Icke's focus on reptillians serves to distract us from seeing the real villains. I'm not even sure how the "illuminati" fit into this if at all. I'm not necessarily saying that Icke is intentionally diverting attention from China and maybe Russia but it seems to be working out that way.
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1 hour ago, Jim1 said:
Somewhere it says that the Canaanites were being devoted to destruction because their SINS had reached the level where they were deserving of destruction not because they were all Nephilim. When the 12 spies went out I believe they found giants in only one of the cities which I never understood because I thought the deluge killed them all. In Noah's time too only some of the people were nephilim not all. The Gibeonites were spared, if they were giants they couldnt have fooled the Israelites into thinking that they were from a distant land. Rehab and her family were not giants. That account of Jericho always bothered me especially. Rehab said to the spies that all the people of Jericho were in fear of them and their God. How is that not grounds for sparing them? It was enough for sparing the Ninevites. I don't know how the animals of the Canaanites were abnormal in any way, I don't think the account says that. If Noah took two and in some cases seven of all the animals according to their kind from the existing animals then there must not have been anything wrong with the animals in his time.
I meant Rahab not Rehab lol.
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3 hours ago, alexa said:
I have debated this many times. The reason that God ordered the men, women & children to be killed as like in the flood was b/c these beings were of the Nephilim (giants) & their animals were of a mixed kind & not of their own kind.
Remember what happened to Saul for him not keeping Gods command ? 1 Samuel 15:9.
God does nothing without good reason.
Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:51
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
Somewhere it says that the Canaanites were being devoted to destruction because their SINS had reached the level where they were deserving of destruction not because they were all Nephilim. When the 12 spies went out I believe they found giants in only one of the cities which I never understood because I thought the deluge killed them all. In Noah's time too only some of the people were nephilim not all. The Gibeonites were spared, if they were giants they couldnt have fooled the Israelites into thinking that they were from a distant land. Rehab and her family were not giants. That account of Jericho always bothered me especially. Rehab said to the spies that all the people of Jericho were in fear of them and their God. How is that not grounds for sparing them? It was enough for sparing the Ninevites. I don't know how the animals of the Canaanites were abnormal in any way, I don't think the account says that. If Noah took two and in some cases seven of all the animals according to their kind from the existing animals then there must not have been anything wrong with the animals in his time.
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9 hours ago, alexa said:
Absolutely - God breathed an immortal soul into Adam.
I believe our soul is immortal also but I will try to make the case that the Bible actually teaches that the soul is mortal, that the soul dies. About Adam: according to Genesis God said to Adam "from dust you came and to dust you will return" as punishment for his sin. Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 says that "the dead are conscious of nothing at all" and that there is no work or planning or knowledge in gravedom. Ezekiel 18:4 says that the soul that sins "will die". The Bible compares death to sleep many times, ". The kings of Israel and Judah "fell asleep in death". Jesus said to his disciples that their friend Lazarus was sleeping when Jesus knew that he had actually died (Luke chapter 11). When Jesus supposedly resurrected Lazarus after 4 days there was nothing said about his having been in heaven. Would it have even been a kind act for Jesus to have removed him from heaven after 4 days. Even Jesus was said to have been in the grave for 3 days. He had to be fully dead according to the whole divine plan so he would be a Ransome in exchange for Adam. He was later resurrected AND THEN went to heaven. Only when I stopped believing that the Bible is a message from God did I start looking for a better understanding of God, the afterlife etc. Sorry if this opinion angers anyone but I couldn't stop myself. Plus I think that the real God is much kinder and more loving than the God of the Bible. Look up Psalm 137:9 for instance. Also the God of the Bible supposedly destroyed men women and children and most of the animals in a worldwide flood. He instructed the Israelites to kill all the Canaanites, defeat the fighting men on the battlefield then go into the cities and towns and slaughter the elderly, the women and the children. It specifically says "do not feel sorry for them". I have struggled for many years to accept that these and many others are somehow the acts of a loving God. I don't accept that anymore.
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On 7/2/2023 at 11:09 PM, whatastrangegame said:
One could argue that our senses are extremely limited and causes us pain and suffering as well. With sight for example, we only see a tiny sliver of the electromagnetic spectrum, imagine how wonderful a sunset would be if we also saw the ultraviolet spectrum for example.
The same with hearing and smell, compare our limits with say a dog, we are missing so much.
And the sense of touch, sure we get a lot of pleasure from that, but we also get A LOT of pain. And sometimes it's chronic pain that you can't get rid of no matter what you do.
So I would say it's both good and bad, and perhaps that's the point. If we couldn't feel pleasure, would there still be real suffering? Or is the suffering greater because we compare it to the pleasures? So in order to reap the most negative energy, the reality has to feed us with positive energy?
You make some good points and present a decent theory but I still think if they want us to be miserable, fearful, angry, hateful and so on they would have left out anything pleasurable and anything that gives us joy, raises our vibration etc. Plus when we are "home" in the spirit realm we see a greater spectrum of colors hear and enjoy music more fully, Don't feel pain etc. This is according to Michael Newton in his books, Rich Martini in his books and podcasts and those who have had a near death experience. David Icke on the other hand has a bleak view of the afterlife or the between lives experience. He doesn't offer much if any evidence for his view that the 4th dimension which we enter into after death is controlled by the evil Reptillians. He refers to a scene in a Star Trek episode in which a woman who is near death is speaking to a man who appears to be her father. The man is trying to get her to go into the tunnel of light but she refuses suspecting it is a trap which it is. Icke thinks that this is the reality we face after death. I'm sorry but I need more than a Sci fi series to convince me of that. I have been listening to Michael Newton's book Journey Of Souls. It presents a much more pleasant picture and it's more convincing in my opinion.
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On 7/1/2023 at 2:42 PM, whatastrangegame said:
It could as simple as that they want to kill of a big part of humanity to be able to replace them with labgrown "humans" that are easier to manipulate and control. They seem to be working hard on sexualisation of children like Brave New World, so why not sterilise people with "vaccines" to steer people to cloning etc instead. And them add a little gene editing and they get the perfect "human".
I think that's what they are trying to do but that still blows up Icke's theory that the reptillians need lots of human fear and other negative energy on earth in this simulation because they feed off of it. I doubt that perfect, obedient human clones will give them that.
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6 hours ago, 78ast78dgyad said:
Many people don't live in fear though.
What they really feed off is our collective conscious - for example a terrorist attack or virus outbreak and everyone on twitter
and the world is staring at the screen generating fear.
It happens on a collective level.
5 hours ago, RobinJ said:I think the issue rises from the terminology used. Calling humans "food" is the problem. Everything is energy, or rather, frequency, light and vibration. even quantum science agrees with this now
We think of food as matter. Nothing "feeds" off of us, there are simply beings attracted to the darker emotions and are able to attach to those and manipulate them for their own use.
I don't disagree with either of these statements however David Icke's contention is that our whole experience as humans on earth is an elaborate simulation produced by an evil, technologically advanced reptillian race for the purpose of "feeding off" our negative energy. I'm pretty sure he words it that way. If that's the case why would they then kill most of us off. Someone commented that even if we are in fear and anguish out of the body in the 4th dimension they benefit. If that is the case why did they go through all the trouble of creating this simulation? Also according to Icke forced reincarnation is how they get us back into the simulation which implies that they need us back in it. One more point the "father" of past life regression therapy Michael Newton says that about 30 percent of people, I think, regress back to a life on OTHER PLANETS. In Icke's scenario it's all an earth thing If I'm not mistaken.
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5 hours ago, Mr H said:
I would like to know why you make the first assumption?
Yes it is a bit like a simulation. Five senses give us a particular view of reality separate from reality
David Icke makes the case in his book The Trap and in other books that the bodies we occupy and the whole world around us is essentially fake, a simulation produced by an evil technologically advanced reptillian race. They then keep us in fear, anger, hatred and orchestrate wars and such because they apparently need and feed off of our negative energy. He also believes that reincarnation is part of their program and that they erase our memories and force us back into the simulation.
He says in The Trap that these reptillian overlords want us to believe that we are limited to our 5 senses. Implied in all this is that they gave us our five senses although it's all an advanced form of AI or virtual reality. I'm saying that our 5 senses are really amazing and contribute massively to our happiness and joy, why would these beings "create" us this way? How would that serve their purpose? Plus I don't think that such angry heartless beings COULD produce us this way. I think only a loving God/creator/source could or would do so.
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Our senses of smell and taste fill a home with love and joy when a favorite meal is being prepared and shared with family and friends. Our hearing is so sensitive it can enjoy and produce beautiful music. We see in vivid color and the world around us is amazingly colorful. A sense of touch that we all need and without which there would be no lovemaking.
. Although I no longer believe in the God of the Bible I still see all of these 5 senses as gifts from a loving source.
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9 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:
I don't think that they feed off fear - to me that's a red herring seeded by the Ruling Elite to divert us from their true intentions. They needed us to do their dirty work, but now machines will soon be doing most of that, so fewer humans will be needed in the future.
But according to Icke there are reptilian overlords behind the billionaire elites who coerce human souls into this physical simulation we call human life and these reptilians feed off of our fear, anger, hatred, war etc. In fact they supposedly keep pushing us back into the simulation through reincarnation for the very purpose of generating lots of negative human energy. Why then would they orchestrate a plandemic and subsequent vaccinations and whatever else that would result in a 90 percent depopulation of humanity? I agree with you, at the purely human level your assessment is correct. I am trying to decide if I believe Icke's big picture view of matters, what to expect after death in particular. This seems to be be one major hole in his reasoning.
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I just finished listening to David's book The Trap and I am almost convinced but the above question popped into my head.
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If the human experience is just a simulation, a fake produced by evil beings why are our 5 sense so awesome?
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You are quoting or actually misquoting one of the laws given to the Israelites supposedly through Moses which says that A son should not be put to death for the sins of his father and a father should not be put to death for the sins of his father but the Bible God does this himself many times in the Old Testament. I'm going from memory but I it's Gehazi who was an assistant to Elisha was struck with leprosy by God for a greedy deceitful act and ALL of his offspring was struck with it also. They weren't put to death but it still goes totally against the spirit of God's own law. The good news is I think the bulk of the Old Testament is fiction.