[Why are some calling Icke controlled opposition?]

here's a recent tweet which is also touching this subject...

and the same guy Ariel continues...

 

 

[Vatican/Jesuit Order vs. Sabbatean-Frankism]

Earlier I was wondering about Khazar Mafia / Sabbatean-Frankists - connection? 

and now lately I've been wondering about the conspiracy of Vatican/Jesuit Order and Sabbatean-Frankism

Does someone here KNOW how those 2 lines are actually connected. Both are told to be in Masonic lodges, Illuminati, governments etc to control and ruling the world - but how exactly? I know the Robert Sepehr's version from his book 1666 Redemption Through Sin (also what David Icke spoke in The Answer book)... and then Jordan Maxwell's version about how it's the Vatican and Jesuits who are ruling the world. I never heard him speaking about Sabbatean-Frankists (or even Sabbatai Zevi) - but he surely wanted to make clear that it's not the jews behind all this madness - and the same goes to Icke; but he surely points out the Zionists... or Rothschild Zionists.

 

If there's a book or video about the subject of this topic title, please let me know.

[Hijacked Lucifer?]

On 4/4/2023 at 4:22 AM, pi3141 said:

 

Your pretty much on the money, 'they' being.... Well I think its complicated, yes they being the Romans, specifically the priests called by Constantine to agree which books entered the Bible and Constantine himself, but I wonder if there wasn't another group influencing those Roman priests, I think there was.

 

That would be the real 'them'

 

When I refer to Original scripture I generally do mean the original Biblical manuscripts written in Hebrew and Greek and not the re-translated Latin Vulgate, which contains errors and falsehoods, from which most other Bibles are derived.

 

Maybe people like the Ethiopian Church and other sects probably have correctly translated copies of original manuscripts too.

 

So, Constantine moved from Babylonian Sun Worship to Christianity - but for the new falsely translated version of it. Sounds like he (or them; if there actually were some mystical influencers, as we could easily imagine - as you suggest. How would the Emperor actually know the real deep secrets of the religion or its esoteric teachings; unless if he was "mystic shaman" also, which I doubt) did the translation intentionally to that way, as a way to conquer the world in a way (psychologically).

 

How about the Freemasonry, how it sits to this image? If Pope is the high priest of Freemasonry or its teaching, which started already much earlier than they were officially announced as a group of Freemasons --- going far back to Babylonian sun worshipping cult(?)... and even more far to... the lizard people/aliens/Annunaki???). How did Freemasons keep Lucifer as their God, if it represents Jesus? Or does it represent him after all (it´s just a way to confuse the Christians)? Morning star is Venus... and Jesus was told to be to Sun of God as well. It´s a confusion puzzle in my head. How I see it now, Venus is the morning star, the new dawn, the new age, "rising sun" - the new order... and the Sun (also Jesus) is the old way - and therefore Lucifer the Morning Star is the God for the Masons. Any thoughts? (Yes, I have seen, PLENTY of videos about that subject waiting to be watched, I will go through some of those, but it´s also nice have a conversation here). Or what is their God really???

 

About the original biblical scriptures you told .... do you mean The Dead Sea Scrolls? Or Hebrew Bible= Tanakh?

[Hijacked Lucifer?]

4 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Lucifer is nothing but a typo, there is no basis in the original scripture for the belief in Lucifer. They made him up.

 

This passage is talking about a king and it is the only passage in the Bible that supposedly references Lucifer except the original scripture does not mention Lucifer, only the morning star or day star.

 

The Greeks know the morning star as 'Lightbearer' so they changed Hebrew scripture from morning star to lightbearer. When the Romans came along they translated the Greek scriptures with lightbearer as Lucifer, and hey presto, a fallen angel was born.

 

Thank your for the notes. Could you still tell what do you exactly mean about the "original scripture" (to be clear. many other people will see these messages too, so it might useful for the future as well).

 

So if I understood correcty, what you call "they" you mean the Romans? They translated and manipulated the original scriptures for their own need? This happened in the time when Catholism was born (by Constantin), or earlier?

 

This reminds a documentary which I saw some while ago, saying that the first leader of Christianity was Saint Peter, and basically Christianity was just Judaism with different stories (and that some Jews even nowadays see Christianity as a branch of Judaism)

 

 

[Hijacked Lucifer?]

Here´s my second thread on this forum.

Another subject which has been bugging my head recent times: Did the forces of darkness hijacked the meaning of Lucifer?

 

Lucifer is known as the devil, sometimes even Satan, in certain areas. It´s also the God for Freemasons (and Luciferians... / Illuminati).

Christians call him Devil... and Freemasons are seen (at least in "our circles") the devil worshippers; a satanic cult. 

Lucifer ("light-bringer" in Latin) is generally bad seen.

 

BUT - in the Bible´s Revelation 22:16 - Jesus says:
"I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star."

 

BUT - Morning Star is Venus, and Venus is accociated to Lucifer.

So basically Jesus calls himself Lucifer. (Jordan Maxwell says that in video - but doesn´t actually say the words exactly like in the book, but meaning the same anyway)

 

Ok... we can go with that for a while, but then, one could think: hmmm, doesn´t that mean then than Jesus is the Devil as well? Is he the son of God? (or SUN OF GOD).

OR - did it happen at some point, that SOME PEOPLE or SOME GROUP decided to take the name Lucifer for their own use, and to turn it upside down? That could explain why Lucifer is the god for the Freemasons. It´s also known that the Freemasons and the Sabbatean-Frankism cult indeed infiltrated the religions; so that type of hijacking is of course possible.

 

I imagine people here on this forum has been thinking about this already, so you may answer to my confusion.

 

 

 

 

[Khazar Mafia / Sabbatean-Frankists - connection?]

thank you for all the answer, I will check the recommendations given. the problem about this research project is that there´s always SO MUCH to look/find/understand for - to connect the spots (as DI would say) - I guess that´s the same for all of us, more or less.

[Khazar Mafia / Sabbatean-Frankists - connection?]

This is my first post here, I decided to sign up so that MAYBE someone here would know something what I haven´t found yet.

 

I read about Sabbatean-Frankism from Icke´s book The Answer about 2 years ago, and it was a big mindblow. I found Robert Sepehr´s youtube videos about that subject, and a bit later his book 1666 Redemption Through Sin

 

Recently I found also the Khazar-Mafia theory... how Khazars converted to Judaism over 1000 years ago (or took Judaism as their religion, but continued to practice their own rituals as well) and that these "jews" moved/escaped from their land to Eastern/Mid Europe, and slowly spreaded their bloodline-cult around Europe. Some say that that was the origin of Ashkenazi Jews, and that the DNA tests show that only 3% of them are actually Semitic. More about that here: https://phys.org/news/2018-09-ashkenazic-jews-mysterious-unravelled-scientists.html

There´s also plenty of documentaries about the Khazar Mafia, starting from those Khazarian Empire days, through Soviet Bolsheviks/Communism, Nazi Germany, and showing their gang infiltrated to governments, banks etc (you know that story). Here´s one what I watched: https://www.bitchute.com/video/h7prllkuxlnJ/

But those Khazar Mafia documentaries and articles what I have seen, doesn´t speak about Sabbateans or Sabbatean-Frankisms.... Nothing about Sabbatai Zevi. But Jesuits are often visible in "the biggest conspiracy". There´s a connection point from Ignatius Loyola/Jesuits (and Alumbrados) to Kabbalist Luria and Rabbi Zevi - and later of course with the Rothchilds, Rockefellers/etc ------ BUT DOES SOMEONE know more about the connection points of these two; "Khazar Mafia" and "Sabbateans".... ?