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1 hour ago, BeeThrive said:
Hey gazap,
The archive.org link you provided isnt working for me on any browser - but my internet is working fine for everything else. I get ‘cant establish secure connection to server’ type of message.
Can you re-post the link please and ill have another go?
No problem. I've attempted to download it here as a pdf but Im not allowed to attach a pdf. I'll happily send it to your email if your happy to share it?
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
Gareth
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So I've been reading a lot about our controllers, how we're apparently in a parison planet, how its they who control our afterlife, how earth is a loosh farm and how we're stuck in a never ending loop, being farmed whilst these beings (archons/reptilians etc) actively feed on our life force. I've also read that there's a net around earth which prevents us leaving after death. A quote from a book which really frightened me was this:
Nick Redfern wrote a book called Final Events: and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife. The book was focused on a small (very small, for the most
time) group in the U.S. government, that was referred to as the Collins Elite, and that he says
“...was concerned the UFO phenomenon was really demonic in nature, and that after we die we head off to some kind of Matrix-like world where our souls are reaped of some kind of strange energy that feeds the creatures of the underworld.”In an interview Redfern expands :
“ Yes, this was one of the central themes of the beliefs of the Collins Elite. They came to the conclusion that the Earth is a farm, and that we are the cattle. They came to accept — based on interviews with a number of people who had Near Death Experiences, theologians, experts on Demonology, etc. — that these entities essentially harvest and feed upon a poorly defined “soul- energy” upon our deaths.
In essence, the Collins Elite thinks that because these demonic creatures are basically energy- based, that our energy feeds and fuels them. The group interviewed a number of NDE witnesses who claimed to have seen vast, never-ending “soul-factories” while in a near-death state, and who also claimed these Gray-like entities process us, slaughter-house/farm-like one by one, and extract energy — rather like the idea of a demonic vampire.”Robert Monroe stated that we are being farmed for our loosh.
Someone, Somewhere (or both, in millions, or uncountable) requires, likes, needs, values, collects, drinks, eats, or uses as a drug (sic) a substance ident Loosh. (Electricity, oil, oxygen, gold, wheat, water, land, old coins, uranium.) This is a rare substance in Somewhere, and those who possess Loosh find it vital for whatever it is used for. Faced with this question of Supply and Demand (a universal law of Somewhere), Someone decided to produce it artificially, so to speak, rather than search for it in its “natural” form. He decided to build a Garden and grow Loosh. From experience, the Collectors have evolved an entire technology with complementary tools for the harvesting of Loosh from the Type 4M [i.e. human] units. The most common have been named love, friendship, family, greed, hate, pain, guilt, disease, pride, ambition, ownership, possession, sacrifice — and on a larger scale, nations, provincialism, wars, famine, religion, machines, freedom, industry, trade, to list just a few. Loosh production is higher than ever before...
Going down this rabbit hole has made me feel like there's no hope. it sounds like we are well and truly done. Are there any allies out there? Or are we just being left to rule by evil overlords? everyone talks about other beings but it seems like we're just overrun by the negative and there's no cavalry coming. This whole research has put me in complete despair
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there's a summary of the book here. I would suggest that you read it. It will make more sense to this thread:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/warinheaven/warheaven-III_notes.htm
thanks
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1 hour ago, novymir said:
I've not read the book, but am familiar with the basic premises. Basically these things are a sort of black magic to capture people's mind/consciousness in fearful ideas and outcomes. It's somewhat paradoxical, in that this dream is ruled by deceit, so, these things can be operative within it, they may be operative in different forms or formulations, but it's not real nor true, it's all designed to maintain the illusion-fantasy of separation and lies. Unconsciousness.
So the seeming paradox is that they're all bullshit, but they may be in our unconsciousness, operating below awareness, which is what this dream is---unconsciousness of Reality-Truth--- we can't really refute and reject them all individually, or specifically, they'll just keep popping up, so it needs to be done generally.
With AUTHORITY= THE TRUTH.
There are many words that are interchangeable with "evil". And none of them represent TRUTH.
Stupid is one. So is weak. So is fiction. They're all the same. Evil. Unimpressive. Limited. Pathetic. Artificial. Dead.
Make this your frame of reference, in spite of seeming evidence to the contrary:
A paging through of "A Course In Miracles" may be useful as well.
thank you for your reply. This book is certainly occult heavy and there's a sense of uneasiness about it. Talking about becoming accustomed to occult practices made me feel uncomfortable. You're made to feel that if you stand any chance whatsoever, then you must obtain these psychic abilities to fight the 'theocrats'.
thanks for your input
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5 hours ago, BeeThrive said:
It depends what your belief system is, before reading the book, how much the material worries you.
I can understand if a person thought that life is living in this world, then we die and go to heaven worlds, then reincarnate, is all Reality is about, would find the book quite disturbing to read about astral planes of ‘trickster’ type spirits, that try to recruit you for their purposes.
But that is nothing new to us, as that mirrors earth life - all types of groups try to lure us to join their agenda, to give the group more ‘power’ via our support, money, energy etc.The only difference between earth and astral beings - is they can easily shapeshift to appear to be something theyre not, yet us as physical beings cant do that so easily - although plenty have a ‘social mask’ of character they ‘act out’ that doesnt express their whole persona.
But like in life on earth - there ARE good spirits/souls people everywhere too in astral zones.
Like life here - allow the heart to guide you, intuition, wherever and whatever circumstance we find ourselves in.The book gives some insight into lower astral planes, and really does not delve into the whole picture of other dimensions.
Fear vibration is a lower astral plane reality.
Fear is an interesting part of our ego, and life will try to get us to ‘face our fears’. It has a purpose, because when we do ‘go through’ our fears, and annihilate them, we ‘free-up’ spiritual energy of expression. ‘Cleansing’ the soul.
Our fears are imaginations of our mind, much like this life is in effect, a co-creative dream we’re all dreaming together. The lower astral planes are the lower ego parts of self expression like fear, greed, hate, power, control etc.. Once they are ‘let go of’ by the mind/spirit complex, and we reach higher (look up as stated earlier in the thread), we no longer attract lower astral zones/spirits.
Courage of heart is required, on earth and anywhere else we may find ourselves. Self-governance is key to not having anything/one abuse our own free-will.
If you can shed the whole of your lower -ego attributes at death, you’ll bypass all the astral zones of lower ego.
Just like on earth if youve got over weekend binging and partying, you’ll walk past the nightclub and wont be attracted to enter. In fact, in astral planes, you wont ever perceive a nightclub because its no longer part of your being.
We ‘project’ reality. Like attracts like. Especially in astral zones.
Once we really do ‘extinguish’ in ourselves the lower ego-attributes, like needing to be liked, wanting to eat cake, wanting to be successful etc we have literally shed that ego part of self, and cannot experience the realities or people associated with those aspects we’ve ‘gone beyond’.
The 7 hermetic principles are Universal Laws which govern ALL and any manifest realm.
Theyre useful to know about.
youtube has lots of videos about it. There’s also the book version audiobook by ‘the three initiates’ thats 3 hours long, that delves deeper into them.
All of life is ‘contracts’.
Individual beings of whatever flavour of life, commit universal law crimes when they force another, without agreement, to anything.
Life on earth is full of contracts. We dont receive any service without contract to sign.
Suffering and conflict on earth is due to ‘unspoken’ or ‘unagreed’ contracts between people.
Friends fall-out because one expected something from another without actual verbal agreement. The friend with expectations and in the wrong, will also project their anger at the other friend for not complying to their ‘terms’ that they never explained to their friend, nor got agreement from. This is a ‘lower ego’ issue of power and control. Wanting without agreement, is a lower astral realm trait.
Your permission is required in all realms, just like on earth.
The threat of global mandates for the vaccine was a red herring, as all governments would have self-destructed if they had forced vaccines. The very control they love to wield, would have been taken from them, by breaking universal free-will law of agreement, and forcing vaccines on people. The power would have been transferred to the people and there would have been a world-wide riot.
IF they really understood the wisdom from their ol’ boy lodges, which most dont, they would have known they cannot force anything on anyone, without dire consequences. (With any action, there’s a re-action)Those nations that went a more forceful route has allowed the truth of the damage of vaccines to become known, allowed the truth of no safe trial data to be known mainstream.
“The truth will out” - always.
Living from the heart does not mean give compliance to all to have your energy. It means living from a place of acceptance and wisdom, that all life contains all forms of expression, which we like to categorize as ‘good and evil’ - but really, its all just consciousness expressing itself.
thank you for your well-thought-out reply, it means a lot.
Prior to this, I simply believed in the notion of living your life through struggles, learning from them in the afterlife and then preparing for another incarnation. Looking back, I feel it was somewhat naive. I will not give my consent to anyone in the astral. What I do fear is 'floating about', not knowing where Im going, only to fall into a state of madness.
There are also so many conflicting ideas and thoughts, it is hard to discern. Wes penre is an example of someone whose views are contrary to mine. He however is a seasoned researcher in his field, I am not. I have only read a few books and if I liked what I heard, then I believed it. His research is exemplary and I cannot ever equal his level of research and intellect. Another is this book which I read:
a very in depth dive into this topic.
Thank you again for you input, I really appreciate it
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5 hours ago, sock muppet said:
So what happened to the beginning of time then, why 1988, why is this date so important if you don't mind me asking?
I'm happy for you to ask whatever you want. That year has no significance, but there were bits in the book that seemed to align with more modern 'secrets' of these so-called shadow groups. Obviously, this means nothing because I have not mentioned what links where. I didnt make notes so I cant pinpoint these 'connecting the dots moments'. This is of no use to you I know and I apologise for that. I have early onset of motor neuron disease so brain fog and bodily tremors make it hard for me to remember things and to communicate effectively. All I would say is read the book. It's a big ask I know, but only then would you maybe make sense of what Im trying to convey.
With love
Gareth
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6 hours ago, sock muppet said:
To remind us that it's not all about just you or me, much more than that going on that's for sure,
I wonder if disclosure will ever happen. If so, then for what purpose? There's always a nefarious reason because I doubt that any 'white hat' faction has asserted control over this earth. I've read a few papers from scientists claiming that the universe is a hologram. If that idea could become more mainstream, then we could start asking the proper questions and joining the dots i.e. who is the projector? Why is this an illusion? Is it then true that we are in fact in a prison planet/universe?
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10 hours ago, alexa said:
Your soul is conscious energy but as you know energy cannot die, it can only be changed, (you shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye) 1 Corinthians 15:51 this energy belongs to God our creator who created us, the earth, heavens, the sun, moon etc .
Your soul will never die! And if you don't believe the Bible maybe try reading one of your books you recommended 'Beyond Biocentricism' by Robert Lanza chapter 17.
1 Corinthians 15:51
I wish I could believe this, but I don't. I can't agree with any readings from religion due to its history of control over the masses for centuries. Please dont take this as me questioning your faith, because my guess is as good as anyone's and everyone has a right to believe what they wish. It's just that I don't believe in religions
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11 hours ago, peter said:
Forget about the book DMT or mushrooms is the way to go, don't read about it ,experience it for yourself.
If I had the means I probably would. My problem is that I took a peak near the rabbit hole, and it feels as if someone's given me a right boot up the arse and Im falling deeper and deeper.
I regret ever researching this stuff now! I guess you could say that ignorance is bliss
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Thank you all for your replies. I was just wondering if there were any others who had read the book. It certainly is steeped in fear and makes one feel quite hopeless. But there were tidbits shared within it which seemed to connect the dots about what we have experienced as a planet since 1988. Thats what was worrying
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Id love everyone'd opinion on this book.
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7 minutes ago, webtrekker said:
You can get the PDF version for nowt!
Yes. Not sure if Im allowed to post a link to it but if I am, ill post it
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7 hours ago, webtrekker said:
You need to see that book for what it is ... GIBBERISH!
Don't live your life in fear because of what some moron declares as true. This book, and all religious books, are just complete hearsay made up in the minds of men. No one, and I mean NO ONE, knows anything about what happens after death.
Hears a short clip from the Introduction to that book ...
What a load of twaddle!
I'm 70 myself and cannot know how much longer I have left. Let's face it, I never knew when I was 20 either. Just live your life and make each day count.
Thank you for your reply. I wish I could but it was just so frightening and a lot of it made sense and now im in a state of complete panic. Its the worst thing ive ever read. Im 39, only have about 6 months left. Was looking for some peace before I departed yet this book has made me somewhat hysterical.
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Thank you all for your replies. The online version can be found here:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/warinheaven/warheaven-III.htm#Contents
The whe premise is that there are two opposing factions in the astral. The theocrats who devour or enslave souls, who have duped many on earth in believing that there is eternal life and that their God is all loving who offers them a place in eternity. Apparently they create these band which are essentially factions. According to the text theyve created most religions, new age movements etc as a way of entrapment once the soul crosses over and is met either by a guide, or deceased family membet etc. It is truly a despairing and horrifying account.
The opposing faction to this group are called the invisible college who ar fighting this faction. Honestly, it sounds ridiculous but at the same time I cant help but feel theres some truth in it.
They talk a lit about how there are a lot of frightened souls who hide in the astral from these beings. Some get captured, others go insane etc most are enslaved and devoured thus rendering that soul obsolete.
He says that he used automatic writing to get this information. The book was written in 1988.
Anyway, I feel embarrassed posting this cause it sounds crazy but I was just hoping someone had information on this book and that it was debunked as being fake! I bloody hope so.
Thank you
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My health is rapidly declining and Ive been reading as much as I can before my departure.
What I regret reading is a book called the war in heaven by Kyle Griffith. Does anyone here know of it? Its content has shaken me to my core and Im now overcome with dread and fear.
Does anyone here know of it?
I hope thats its a load of crap but hoping wont really get me anywhere.
Thanks
War in heaven
in Nature Of Reality
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thank you for such an in depth answer. I think what scares me is the idea of souls be ing 'swallowed up by theocratiec bands'. Kyle Griffith means this in the literal sense, that the soul wont exist. Now, I've read in other places that they feed on our energy not the actual soul. I could live better with it if I knew that my soul or others I have loved have not been devoured with their souls no longer in existence. What are your thoughts on this?
thank ans much love
Gareth