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  1. 1 hour ago, Ethel said:

    I'm glad someone has highlighted this. I was a smoker for a long time and gave up, interestingly enough, over the course of 2020-21. I briefly tried vaping in it's early days, but that was back when it was marketed as a way to come off cigarettes, rather than as a permanent feature in one's life. I stopped after a week or so because, believe it or not, I ended up with severe chest pains - even though after a decade of smoking cigarettes I'd rarely experienced chest pains, although I'd had plenty of sore throats.


    I'm not saying one is definitively worse than the other, although I have long suspected that many people who vape have convinced themselves it is harmless because a) they enjoy it, b) they want it to be harmless and c) they want to believe there is such a thing as a harmless addiction. It's possible vaping is harmless. Then again, it's possible it isn't.


    I think it was earlier this year, I briefly quit smoking while I was suffering with a bad chest infection (no, not Covid 😛, the kind I usually get after I have a bad cold).


    I went a couple of weeks without having a 'proper smoke', unfortunately I soon gave in and started again.


    During the first part of my 'abstinence' I tried using this vape device I'd bought a while back but had hardly used - just some cheap thing by Logic that used interchangeable 'e-liquid pods' you can pop in and out - I found it irritated my throat and chest far more than puffing on cigarettes did.


    I don't think they are any "better for you" than cigarettes are, certainly I think it was okay when vaping took off as a "quit smoking aid", but it concerns me now that the way these are being marketed, they are becoming 'appealing' to people - especially kids - who probably wouldn't ordinarily consider taking up smoking as a habit, its become almost fashionable or trendy to be seen vaping these days.

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    Following on from my previous reply...

    On 5/12/2023 at 12:49 AM, Graham Jessop said:

    I have suggestions that i think would work, would put an end to the madness etc but it needs someone like David involved.


    What i've noticed is that David has no real answers to the problems, i have got those.


    What I have also noticed is that despite having a publicly viewable forum that anyone can sign up to and start or join in discussions, there's a considerable number of people that only want to communicate with David himself, and are completely unwilling to engage with other people who share David's ideas.


    I have read David's books and watched his videos, but it is clear he doesn't want to be any kind of 'leader' or to be 'followed', what we choose to do should be up to us.


    If you truly have 'suggestions' or 'real answers' then please find an appropriate topic in this forum or start a new one, and let the members here engage with and discuss your ideas.


    There are a good number of members here who are up for a good discussion, but sadly there are also those who just treat this place like a 'dumping ground', the "one-post wonders" etc who just post stuff and never follow up.


    On 5/12/2023 at 12:49 AM, Graham Jessop said:


    I am hard of hearing though, so just being able to email or text him would be good for me.

    And I lose count of the number of people who join this forum just to try and get a contact number or email for David. (And no, despite being a former moderator, I have neither of them)


    To be honest, I have always suspected that some people may wish for 'direct contact' with David in order to feed him misinfo/disinfo, "I have new information to share" etc.


    I don't know really, I just don't get why some people don't want to engage with others, that is of course what David wants us all to do.


    In summary, there is no need for a "new forum" not while there is this one, which just needs more like-minded people to join and start discussions.

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    The Guardian Gushes Over How Brilliant "Gay Love Island" Show Is


    Well of course they would, The Guardian only exists now because of "woke" and all that.


    I don't watch TV, I wouldn't watch any kind of reality TV, and I wouldn't go anywhere near this, nor the 'straight' Love Island either because its all a load of meaningless distracting tosh.

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  4. The chap in this video is spot on, we have data from ice cores that tell a completely different story of the Earth's climate going back thousands of years, yet the whole 'climate change narrative' is fraudulently spun from a couple of hundreds of years of 'measured' temperatures.


    I showed in another topic here the following chart found on Wikipedia's 'Greenhouse gases' page, which contradicts most of the 'narrative' the page is spewing.



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  5. Everyone is missing the main point which is that this woman has a background in marketing and advertising.


    All these 'big' social media networks are nothing more than advertising platforms.


    And any platform that is dependent on advertising revenue is of course beholden to its advertisers and their whims.


    There is no such thing as a 'free-speech platform' where it has to pander to the wishes of advertisers.

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  6. On 5/12/2023 at 12:49 AM, Graham Jessop said:

    When he did that TV series and took over a TV channel, or formed his own it was halfway there, what he needs is a forum where other people's suggestions could be aired.

    You are on that forum right now!


    On 5/12/2023 at 12:49 AM, Graham Jessop said:

    We need to come together as one. That is my suggestion. If David never answers any questions, then i don't know what will happen either.

    And that is the purpose of this forum.

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  7. On 5/12/2023 at 6:05 PM, Observations said:

    Just sharing on this thread, a little something I posted in todays news. I haven't heard that said about the sea before, to explain the clouds this spring. The presenters gave percentages of how much more cloud there has been. 

    It is sort of correct and to be expected really.


    If the oceans are warming due to increased surface temperatures, then yes more water will evaporate into the atmosphere, which then means that more clouds form.


    (That's why sea levels don't appear to have risen that much, despite all the 'dire warnings')


    Increased amounts of cloud in the atmosphere do two things:

    1) more precipitation as rain/hail/snow

    2) reduce surface temperatures due to blocking out sunlight


    It's all natural and balanced, nothing to do with "man-made climate change". Everything goes round in a natural cycle.


    But of course, if one were to start 'artificially' manipulating the weather by introducing more clouds into the equation, then of course there could be disastrous consequences, if the balance is tipped the wrong way.

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  8. I can't take much more of this click-bait drivel...


    UK set for 35C heatwave thanks to African plume as exact date predicted


    An African plume could spark a sweltering 35C UK heatwave - but you'll have to wait: because forecasters don't expect it til July. Weather forecasters have spoken out over the weather as the temperatures continue to languish in the teens.

    Recent days have seen grey skies develop across swathes of the country, with heavy rainfall, hail and even thunder and lightning in areas. But meteorologists are promising things will improve as we head deeper into summer.

    An African plume is expected to bring huge heatwave with scorching 35C temperatures. African plumes are set to drag temperatures into the 30s later this summer according to forecasters.

    James Madden, from ExactaWeather, said: "We could still see maximum temperatures reaching in the mid to high 20s quite widely at the peak of this." Mr Madden says "confidence has only increased" over heatwaves, adding: "A number of African plumes are also likely from later in August and into September, and very early indications and some strong indicators are for a warm to hot September this year.

    "The peak of these heat surges in June and July could see maximum temperatures ranging in the low to mid 30s, and the late summer/August heatwave could sign off summer 2023 with temperatures ranging a notch or two higher than this.”

    from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/uk-set-35c-heatwave-thanks-26906075


    Who would have thought it, it's going to be hot in June/July/August? 🤪


    It's also amazing how these forecasters are able to predict such 'African plumes' and 'heatwaves' so far in advance, yet are seemingly unable to accurately predict the weather for next week?


    Oh but predictably, 'hot summers' are because of 'climate change':


    At the time, Dr Mark McCarthy, the head of the Met Office’s National Climate Information Centre, said: “2022 is going to be the warmest year on record for the UK. While many will remember the summer’s extreme heat, what has been noteworthy this year has been the relatively consistent heat through the year, with every month except December being warmer than average.

    “The warm year is in line with the genuine impacts we expect as a result of human-induced climate change. Although it doesn’t mean every year will be the warmest on record, climate change continues to increase the chances of increasingly warm years over the coming decades.”

    I would argue that 2023 so far has been relatively cooler "than usual".


    Laughably, this is another Reach Plc clickbait article with "exact date" wording in the headline, yet the article fails to provide any such 'exact date'.


    My prediction: it will be a relatively mild and wet summer, with the occasional periods of warm, sunny weather being billed as 'heatwaves'.

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  9. Yawn, Carlson announces he'll be doing his 'show' on Twitter.


    As I speculated in another thread here, this is all about 'shepherding' people back onto Twitter and away from the 'alternatives' such as Parler, Gab, Gettr, TruthSocial etc.


    I don't know if Carlson is legit or not, but I suspect he's just another 'controlled opposition' puppet, leading people on a merry dance.


    Be wary of who you follow and where they are ultimately leading you...

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  10. 10 hours ago, allymisfit said:

    Today I received a horrific message by the member - Kwashiorkor


    Has anyone else received hate from them?


    This is what they said:


    "Illegitimate mixed-race babies should be aborted and then incinerated. 




    I hope your illegitimate offspring die, nigger lover. 




    Mud shark"


    I have reported this, but how vile some people can be.

    Clearly has antisocial personality disorder. A dangerous creep.


    I do not have a mixed race baby, but for someone to say anything like this is beyond sick. 



    You did the right thing there.


    If any member receives any kind of inappropriate personal message (PM) then they should use the Report function to bring it to the attention of the admins/mods, so appropriate action can be taken.


    However do be mindful that it is also against the forum rules to share contents of private messages publicly in the forum, but I'm sure in this situation the mods will be forgiving!

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  11. 12 hours ago, Certified Green of Heart said:

    Just a open-minded thought, since I've only ever heard of nitrogen sprays as fertilizer being over-used and hence bad... I still tend to believe that aspect, as personally I just can never come to accept most chemicals being organically minded and all.


    At the end of the day, at the most fundamental level, even 'organic' matter is made up of chemicals.


    What are chemicals? Just combinations of various elements. The difference I suppose is what you would consider a 'natural' chemical as opposed to a 'man-made' one.


    Take for example Roundup, for years they used a formulation based on Monsanto's "man-made" chemical glyphosate. A couple of years ago, following a lot of fuss about how harmful glyphosate was (not just to plant roots!), they changed the product and now the basic main ingredient is acetic acid. Which is the principle chemical found in vinegar.


    That's right, Roundup is now basically over-priced vinegar. 😛


    I noticed a few different products I used in my garden for weed and algae control were acetic acid based. I'm of course less hostile towards weeds than I used to be, but where I want to kill off weeds that I really don't want, I find Wilko's Cleaning White Vinegar is just as effective, as well as a lot cheaper, than most weedkillers now.

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  12. Primary school pupil has 'cardiac episode' after drinking Prime energy drink


    A primary school has issued a warning after a pupil had a "cardiac episode" after drinking the viral Prime energy drink. The KSI and Logan Paul drink has been a viral sensational all year, sparking huge queues at stores nationwide.

    But a school in Newport in Wales is issuing a warning to parents. Milton Primary School on Hendre Farm Drive said a parent had reported their child had to have their stomach pumped after drinking the drink, which contains 200mg of caffeine.

    The school has text mums and dads saying: "This morning a parent has reported that their child has had a cardiac episode over the weekend after drinking a Prime energy drink. The child had to have their stomach pumped and although better now the parent wanted us to share this as a reminder of the potential harmful effects."

    The official website states that one 12oz can - or 355mls - of Prime Energy contains 200mg of caffeine. A warning on the page states that the energy drink is not "recommended" for children under the age of 18, as well as pregnant or nursing women.

    A can of Red Bull has between 75-80mg of caffeine, meanwhile a full can of Monster Energy contains 160mg. An average cup of coffee contains around 40mg of caffeine. However, there are no laws in place restricting sales of energy drinks to under 16s and if Prime Energy proves to be as popular as its predecessor, it will likely fall into children's hands.

    from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/primary-school-pupil-cardiac-episode-26886423


    I remember about ten or so years ago now, when that Monster stuff first came out, someone was driving around our industrial estate in a liveried van and going into businesses to hand out 'free samples'. This young woman left four cans for us, one for each of us working in the sales office. Myself and two other colleagues drank one each, the other colleague declined, so I ended up drinking two of them.


    While I suffered no ill-effects, I was proper 'buzzing' afterwards. Never touched the stuff since.


    None of these 'energy drinks' are any good to anybody, and it alarms me how many people seem to 'rely on' them in order to get themselves through the day.


    If you're tired at work or even at school, then you're not getting enough sleep and rest. Get a good night's sleep instead of staying up late playing video games, watching movies or scrolling through social media, that's my advice.


    It concerns me how much these Prime drinks are being hyped, not just by 'social media influencers' but even by the mainstream media. Has any MSM journalist ever done any proper investigating into what these drinks contain and what they do to people? Nope, because its all part of the social engineering exercise.

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  13. Cheap as chips? Not any more as price rockets


    The price of a large fish and chips has shot up by almost a fifth according to The Office for National Statistics (ONS), which launched a comparison tool to show how much everyday items have increased during the cost of living crisis.

    The data showed a surge in takeaway food and dining, with the cost of an average takeaway fish and chips jumping by 19 per cent to £9.

    A number of chip shop owners said the same reason for their pricey fish; Brexit.

    from: https://www.expressandstar.com/entertainment/food-and-drink/2023/05/08/cheap-as-chips-not-any-more-as-price-rockets/


    I can't help but feel that this article is just more 'anti-Brexit' social engineering, as most people are happy to 'blame Brexit' but don't understand the real reasoning.



    Chris Minas, owner of Broadway Chippy in Walsall, has to charge £10.15 to be able to make a profit.

    "We only buy high quality fish, but the price has increased massively since Brexit because of import fees.

    "We have really dropped in the number of customers we're getting. People can't afford it anymore. If it keeps going like this, having a fish and chip dinner will become a novelty, something people will do once a month as opposed to your Friday fish and chips."


    Incredible that on an island surrounded by waters abundantly filled with cod, we are still having to import fish.


    The irony is that the 'high quality' fish was probably caught by an EU fishing vessel from British waters.


    Also, do we no longer grow potatoes in this country?


    I've said it before, this isn't "because of Brexit", this is a consequence of our government failing to take full advantage of the benefits of Brexit by revitalising our fishing and farming industries, instead on pandering to EU interests.

  14. 16 hours ago, Macnamara said:

    governments are bribing small and mid-sized farmers to shut down their operations permanently because their facilities produce high levels of nitrogen. The nitrogen is now labeled a “pollutant” that should be cut by 50% across Europe.


    Now I've heard it all, nitrogen is now considered a "pollutant"?


    Image result for atmospheric composition | Earth layers, Earth's ...

    I learned in school that nitrogen was the most abundant gas in our atmosphere, and it was oxygen that humans, mammals and most other animals need to survive. But in it's 'purest' form, oxygen is also poisonous, and thus the nitrogen acts as a 'dilutant'. When we breathe in air, our lungs absorb oxygen, but the nitrogen does nothing, we breathe it back out again, along with a small amount of carbon dioxide.


    Plants thrive on nitrogen, hence why most chemical plant fertilisers are nitrogen-based.


    It is utterly ridiculous to label nitrogen as a 'pollutant', but then again all these 'green policies' are just as ridiculous, and founded on some very skewed re-written 'science'.

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  15. It doesn't make much of a difference.


    I note that little has been mentioned in the media about the turnout figures for these local elections, but I bet they're pretty low.


    The vast majority of people miss the point of these elections, not helped by the media amplifying the 'send a message to this Government' mantra.




    This is an election to decide who represents you as a councillor in your local government.


    Rishi Sunak is still the Prime Minister, and the Conservatives are still the controlling party in national government. At that level NOTHING HAS CHANGED.


    At a local level if you had a shit Labour council and you still voted Labour, then nothing has changed either.


    If you had a decent Conservative or LibDem council and you voted Labour, then you will probably now end up with a shit council, maybe something will change for you at least.


    But really it doesn't matter whether Labour or Conservatives control your council - you may get to elect your councillors, but they pretty much do fuck all once the election campaign is over, the real 'power' in your local council is held by the 'unelected' civil service and executives, the Common Purpose 'change agents' who push their ideological agendas, which are merely signed off by your local councillor.



    And they get away with this unnoticed, regardless of whether a council is Tory or Labour. It becomes much easier though as fewer people bother to turn out to vote, because it is much easier to 'rig' a local election using a hardcore number of brainwashed voters.

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  16. On 5/1/2023 at 5:50 PM, Mikhail Liebestein said:

    Valid until the year 3000? Did he shape shift to another form on arrest?



    On 5/1/2023 at 5:50 PM, Mikhail Liebestein said:

    The fake Ukrainian driving licence, complete with the former British prime minister's picture and correct birth date, was 'issued' on 24 July 2019 - the date he moved into 10 Downing Street as the UK's leader - and is valid until the end of the year 3000.


    Some joker having a laugh, that's all this is. Interesting that the licence was 'Ukrainian' though there is no mention of the suspect's nationality.



    Is this proof Boris is a reptilian with a 1000 year lifespan or is using body doubles?

    Sorry but this kind of topic title bears no relation to the actual subject matter, and this is why I'm becoming increasingly dubious about some of the material being posted/shared on this forum.


    This is the David Icke Forum after all, not the fucking Daily Mirror.

  17. On 5/2/2023 at 8:39 AM, Fool Me Once said:

    Possibly Earth's weakening magnetic field is the start of a gradual,incremental series of events leading up to the (proposed:by Ben Davidson and Douglas Vogt) micronova in the 2030's or 40's.


    If so,the planned 15 minute concentration camps are a device to imprison then euthenise any resistance to the next plandemic(for which covid was a major dress rehearsal) in the next couple of years;this time they will not back down and with their recent power grab the WEF-FEW will attempt to inject the entire populace and put us down like vermin.



    I also agree that there will at some point be another solar 'disaster', maybe in the timeframe proposed by Ben.


    But what I would question is that if 'they' know there is going to be such a disaster impending which will naturally wipe out much of the population of this planet, then why would the 'elites' be interested in wiping most of us out before then?


    On 5/2/2023 at 1:14 AM, Anti Facts Sir said:

    Maybe they have found out that their time, their window of opportunity for their aims, is very limited and might be about to come to an end. So it's make hay while the iron is hot. Go down all guns blazing. Take as many down with them as they can.


    Or they just believe they're above everything and everyone and get away with it.



    It's my belief that "they" can pretty much get away with whatever they want to do right now, while the mainstream media is easily able to distract the mass populace at will.


    Most 'ordinary' people are more interested in what's going on in "I'm A Celebrity" or "Gogglebox", and would rather stop in and watch Coronation Street than go and vote in local council elections.


    In fact, I find it quite sad that many people here in the UK are more interested in US politics, arguing and bitching about Trump or Biden, which again is distracting people from voting in UK elections.


    Most people don't give any kind of shit anymore, and will just do what they are told to do, by figureheads on the news, or celebrities and 'influencers' on social media.


    You can be assured that the 'militant communists' will all be following their orders and going out and voting Labour tomorrow.

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  18. 23 hours ago, lake said:


    So for my own consideration Grump .... would you say that I was a 'Bad Actor' .... or was I 'Genuine'?


    (and don't worry anyone I won't be sticking around nor posting ... but I do read and am interested in the thoughts of a very few members here (also I enjoy to 'wind up' one or two other members lol))




    I wasn't really inferring anything towards any particular members of this forum, but during my time here I have come across some who I would definitely consider to be 'bad actors' - for the record I don't think you are one.


    But outside of the forum, there are definitely what would otherwise be known as 'influencers' - people who rise to a level of prominence and become 'well-known', and then there are the 'circles', where the same names appear on each others' podcasts and videos etc.

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  19. 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:


    yeah but how much of that is seeded in by bad actors to discredit everything else said in this arena?


    That's the idea though, and that's what I have warned people about here in the past, every so often something 'new' comes along, and people are rushing to share it on this and other forums and in Telegram groups and the like, but its just bullshit (in my opinion).


    As far as I am concerned, yes much of the mainstream media is built upon lies, but equally there are parts of the 'alternative' media that are just as guilty.


    One thing that Neil Sanders says in his blogs, that the idea is that people who get used to the notion that the media 'lies', will more readily accept or believe the opposite or counter-point narrative that gets established in the 'alternative' media.


    I don't believe anything I read on the news, and I certainly don't accept everything at face value that the 'alternative' presents.


    The trouble is that it becomes more difficult to discern who is genuine, or who is a 'bad actor'.

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  20. 2 hours ago, Macnamara said:


    i don't know anything about the lee guy but sanders used to say some interesting things about the whole 60's counter culture scene and how many pop stars had fathers in military intelligence but one day i was listening to him speak and he was making left wing talking points so what i suspect is going on with those two is that they might be left wing ideologues who wanted to steer the truth movement but failed as the woke agenda got dissected and exposed and so have instead sought to destroy the movement instead


    That would be my guess: that they have a left wing agenda


    That's what I suspect about Sanders - he wrote some interesting (if lengthy) blogs about Cambridge Analytica, and some stuff in there I did agree with.


    However he was very much opposed to Brexit, and I noticed the other day on his website that he very much believes that "Covid is real", though I do agree with him about some of the misinfo and disinfo that has been freely circulated amongst the 'alternative' media.


    Interesting that he hasn't blogged on his website since 2021, job done?

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  21. From another thread here, we now have "soft heatwave" to add to the list of made-up weather exaggerations:


    Well "late April" is next week, and that is the week I am going away on holiday to the coast, so admittedly some 'warm weather' would be appreciated, as the current 10-day forecast doesn't look that promising.


    But this is what we have to look forward to now: any "warm sunny" day is now a "heatwave" according to the media and their 'experts' at these forecasting agencies, who can't correctly forecast next week's weather, let alone three or four months ahead.

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