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  1. 6 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

    my isp has sent me a new router that has a socket to plug the phone in to use voip


    doing research it looks like openreach instals a router on the wall (it needs its own electric socket) connected to the fibre

    then your isp router plugs into that


    See my post further up, we had this at work recently.


    Yes, you'll get a new router, and you'll have a new 'master socket' installed which the router will connect to. (Unless you already have a full fibre connection so have a master socket already)


    The router has ports to connect one or two phones to, and it should include an adapter, so you can plug in any existing phone, doesn't have to be a VOIP type - we used our old cordless DECT phone base unit.


    You still get the familiar dial tones as before. And yes we got to keep our existing landline number too.



    6 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

    i suppose those with no internet and just a landline like my parents will get the openreach router installed and plug the phone into that.


    I think in theory that should work. I know that Vodafone 'cocked up' our broadband installation so we had no internet for nearly 24 hours, however the phone line did still work all the time it was connected to the powered-on router.


  2. 21 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    To be fair he is not alone in this. Many others in the 'truth community' (and out of it to be fair) only offer repeats of what many others are saying. Part of this might simply be that there is nothing new to add (and there is very little new in the World), and as we often hear, people respond to different people in different ways, or at least how they deliver the message. I agree with you that he could offer much more, certainly about his working in the industry and the contacts he has had with people. 


    I suppose though, that the more people are talking about 'truth' the better. There have been suggestions on here that some other 'truthers' read stuff on here and then make videos about it, and I get why that annoys people somewhat, but perhaps 'the more the merrier' when it comes to this stuff. The only problem is whether that person is controlled oppo or a pied piper, and the jury is out right now for Brand on that. In many ways, Brand shows us how fickle people even in the 'truth community' are, in that even with knowledge of the way this 'Matrix' is built and how society is shaped, they are still going towards the better looking 'leaders' rather than the quality of their content/character. 


    This is one reason why I have warned people before to exercise some caution, because I do believe there is a lot of misinfo/disinfo being 'seeded' into the alternative circles, via Telegram and other chat groups, as well as discussion forms like this one.


    Suddenly this same misinfo/disinfo starts appearing on YouTube and Bitchute videos, and then you have all the usual commentators and internet personalities talking about it.


    I'm not actually a fan of the term 'truther' and so naturally I find anyone who labels themselves as such a bit 'questionable'.


    For clarity, yes I do think there are some genuine 'conspiracy theories' out there, but I'm finding it harder with time to take some of them seriously now.


    Gone are the days when I would just avidly believe anything - I prefer to use my own judgment, intuition and gut instincts.

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  3. On 10/16/2023 at 5:55 PM, RobinJ said:

    Well a lot would depend upon what number and how the country was started at. I think I'm right in saying that the Mayans had 360 days in their calendar not what we have now. The original Egyptians also counted to 360. Our present 365 day year changed many thousands of years ago to add one more layer of subterfuge.


    19 hours ago, RobinJ said:

    Maybe so, however both those cultures made great efforts to record their lives and beliefs.l on stone. 360 was documented elsewhere too. I doubt we will ever know the real truth of how 'time' in this realm/ dimension etc was started and when.



    Maybe it's possible that there once was a time when those calendars were correct and there were 360 days in a year.


    Perhaps something happened in the past, that caused the calendar to have to be extended?


    I like to think that perhaps a solar micronova at some point 'knocked' our planet out of its orbit, and pushed it a little further away from the sun. Maybe not by much, but enough to make our transit just that little bit longer. Or maybe this same event caused our planet to spin just a little bit faster.


    Either way, even in my own lifetime it appears that our 'seasons' have become 'off-kilter' to our calendar, so its possible some further adjustments may need to be made.



  4. 19 hours ago, 2020member said:

    Where i live they seem to be ferried off the rubber dinghys. With a e-bike, just eat backpack and smart phone -starter packs waiting for them. 

    I find it very eerie and dystopian that these guys will be flying about on these e-bikes in years to come whilst the streets lay empty when no one can afford to drive anymore. 

    Dare i say they’ll be ferrying our rations door to door in the 15 minute biometric hellholes. 


    They're the new slave labour class.


    It's ironic how the wokesters continue to complain about 'historical slavery' and go about toppling statues, insisting street names be changed, or demanding that 'reparations be paid', while there is a whole new level of slavery happening right now, which they are facilitating with their 'refugees welcome' placards.

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  5. All part of the plan, spread the divisiveness everywhere. There was a 'protest march' yesterday in Birmingham.


    Massive turnout at Birmingham pro-Palestine march - but Labour councillors 'warned not to attend'


     Pro-Palestinian demonstrators took to the streets for a packed march through Birmingham city centre today. The massive turnout took over swathes of the area as those involved waved flags and chanted as they marched from High Street, up New Street and into Chamberlain Square and Centenary Square.

    A handful of those on the march scaled buildings on the route, including the Library of Birmingham entrance and the foyer of the Odeon cinema on New Street. But the event was peaceful and attracted parents with young children.

    It came amid fears of an Israeli ground offensive in Gaza, with residents told to leave northern parts of the territory, in response to the Hamas terror attacks in Israel last weekend. The United Nations, senior EU figures and aid agencies have all expressed alarm as many Palestinians struggle to flee ahead of a “co-ordinated” offensive in the Gaza Strip involving air, ground and naval forces.


    And after this afternoon's march, it emerged Labour councillors were warned not to attend. BirminghamLive has also seen evidence that a message from the Birmingham Labour Group about the Palestine/Israel situation had a crucial paragraph removed under party orders.

     In a message from the Labour Party ’s general secretary David Evans, sent to all local councillors, they were all “strongly advised” not to attend any events “in the interests of our members’ safety” and to avoid sharing a platform with or being close to “individuals that threaten to undermine the values and principles of the Labour Party.”

    Anyone who did so was told not to carry Labour Party banners, for the same reason. We understand several councillors wished to attend to show their support for the Palestinian people but were too afraid of a party backlash.


    from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/hundreds-attend-birmingham-pro-palestine-27914594


    I was in Sparkbrook today, and there seemed to be these 'Free Palestine' signs everywhere.


    Let me be clear on this, I condemn both Hamas and the Israeli government for slaughtering innocent people.


    But I'm not going to take any sides in this 'conflict'.


    However what is interesting is that there were similar pro-Palestine protests just a few years ago in Birmingham, and the Labour party were very happy to lend their support at the time. (Anything to get the Muslim vote at local elections I suppose)


    But you have to remember that all these politicians are all just opportunist puppets, and with Labour being on the cusp of forming the next government, they now have to be seen to be pandering to their Zionist masters.


    What concerns me here in the UK how people are led being down this divisive path, and as well as the 'social media crackdowns' that we can expect, no doubt we can expect a couple of false-flag 'terror attacks' thrown into the mix, if anything just to stoke up the 'fear factor'. Which will then see further 'crackdowns' on civil liberties.


    The other thing that concerns me are the pleas to 'donate money' - no doubt many Brits will have their heart-strings tugged to 'give what they can', but who knows where this money is really going, sounds to me like people are about to be fleeced again.

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  6. 7 hours ago, Human10 said:

    At least wanted to work...

    That's fair enough, but these illegal immigrants are being exploited as cheap slave labour, being paid less than minimum wage, and often forced to live in atrocious overcrowded living conditions.

    Human traffickers and people smugglers sell a 'dream' to these people, but it is just a big lie.

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  7. What we're almost never told about is what happens to all these people when they get here.


    Sure, while many get housed in swanky hotels at our expense, it is known that many somehow manage to 'escape' and disappear, but no-one has any idea where.


    Many will disappear into the 'black economy' - put up in accommodation in return for cheap slave labour, whether that is washing cars or cutting peoples' hair, or just couriering drugs around the country.


    Or perhaps there are 'legal loopholes' that would allow illegal immigrants to undertake low-paid menial work in this country, while big corporations 'turn a blind eye'?



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  8. I've been enjoying watching this again, a BBC comedy created by Peter Serafinowicz and Robert Popper. The first series was a spoof of 'educational' schools TV programmes, while the second series aped the likes of 'Tomorrows World'.


    The following clip is from the first series, and hints at how easy it will become in the future to generate songs using input keywords, an eerie nod to todays AI generated music...



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  9. 26 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:


    There's too many delivery riders to meet the demand in many areas, so you often get put on waiting list when you sign up to be a rider. You also need to use photo ID. Even though it's low paying work, the rider accounts can be fairly sought-after because of the waiting list to be a rider, to the point where people rent out their rider accounts for others to use.



    Well thanks, that was certainly eye-opening!


    It certainly explains why so many 'economic migrants' are desperate to come to the UK, and why there is so much people-trafficking going on.


    And that Reddit thread is 4 years old now, so this has been going on for some time!


    It must be relatively easy for someone 'legit' to set up loads of Deliveroo accounts and then 'sub-let' them out to illegals, taking a cut of the earnings in the process.


    This is scandalous, but I'm not surprised that this has never been investigated or questioned by the mainstream media. And most normies wouldn't care otherwise, they just keep ordering their takeaways via these apps and just assume that their driver is above board and legit.


    Deliveroo is facilitating illegal immigration and human trafficking.

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  10. On 10/9/2023 at 11:33 PM, Scott Kirkland said:

    I thought we need carbon to help grow plants and crops, also Trees need carbon to turn into oxygen.


    This is the other interesting aspect to this.


    What you refer to is "carbon dioxide", which is a gas that makes up 0.04% of our atmosphere and has been demonised into some kind of 'pollutant' that needs to be reduced.


    Carbon in it's naturally occurring form is a mineral, a non-metallic element.



    Carbon is the 15th most abundant element in the Earth's crust, and the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Carbon's abundance, its unique diversity of organic compounds, and its unusual ability to form polymers at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth, enables this element to serve as a common element of all known life. It is the second most abundant element in the human body by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen.

    from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon


    "Carbon" and "carbon dioxide" (CO2) in some quarters have become interchangeable terms, though I believe this is misleading as they are not the same thing.


    All talk of "carbon credits", "carbon footprint", "carbon allowance" etc is disingenuous.


    "Carbon taxes" or "carbon emission offsetting" are just a money-making racket to fleece money from wealthy virtue-signallers, as well as us paupers.


    Anyone who ever uses "carbon" instead of "carbon dioxide" or CO2 deserves to be heavily questioned as to what they actually mean.



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  11. Came across this brief story in the Express & Star the other day and it asks more questions than are posed.


    Food delivery rider arrested for immigration offences after cycling down the M6


    A food delivery worker has been arrested for immigration offences after being stopped riding his push bike along the M6 southbound near Birmingham.

    Central Motorway Police issued a warning saying: "The motorway is no place for delivery riders, it's an offence and highly dangerous."

    The incident was reported at around 4am on Tuesday on the team's Twitter page.

    It read: "Male arrested for immigration offences having been stopped riding his push bike along the M6 South between junctions 7-6 he was delivering takeaways."

    Officers have been contacted for further comment.

    from: https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2023/10/10/food-delivery-rider-arrested-for-immigration-offences-after-cycling-down-the-m6/


    I can't find it now, but I did see another article about this, where it was claimed that this idiot person was delivering for Just Eats or Deliveroo (can't remember which one, but it was one of 'those')


    Aside from the fact that cyclists really shouldn't be riding on the motorway, it is interesting that this person was charged with 'immigration offences', and then that was it, story over.


    No information about his immigration status, and no questions about how he was able to gain employment with this company.


    "Immigration offences" suggests to me that this person was an illegal immigrant. From where they came I do not know, but it would seem that they had no right to be in this country.

    (They certainly had no idea about the Highway Code!)


    Which then raises the question of how they were able to gain employment as a delivery driver?


    Do Just Eat, Deliveroo et al have any due process in place to vet their applicants? How on earth do illegal immigrants gain 'legal employment' and pay income tax, national insurance etc?


    How many other illegal immigrants are there working for these companies as delivery drivers?





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  12. On 10/3/2023 at 1:49 PM, 2020member said:

    I live in a fairly large city in England and no matter what time of day I go out (up until about 8/9pm) the traffic is absolutely relentless. 


    If you went back 10 years ago, there would be a lull after the morning rush hour. Then a lull after lunch and then in the evening. But now it is just bedlam whatever time of day you go out. 


    Anyone else experiencing this? and does anyone know where everyone is going at all times of the day?! 


    Where I live out in the outer suburbs of Birmingham, you still get these 'peaks and troughs' of traffic, usually the worst congestion is during the morning and afternoon school journey times, then its relatively quiet on the roads.


    But if you go into the 'inner' suburbs and around the city centre, then I agree, there seems to be heavy traffic at all times of day now.


    I guess this can be put down to several factors:

    - Working hours changes, where more people work 'irregular' shift patterns, as opposed to the 'traditional' 9-5 routine

    - More people 'choosing' not to work, therefore having more time during the day to go driving around to go shopping etc.

    - In addition to the above, more people having nothing better to do than go cruising and racing around in their cars

    - More taxis on the roads - those people who don't own cars are choosing to take 'Ubers' instead of using public transport, due to continued reinforcement of negative perceptions

    - More people avoiding main roads and using side-streets as 'rat-runs' to try and beat traffic queues

    - More people just being 'lazy' and using their cars for very short journeys, eg to drive to a nearby shop that they could easily walk to


    I think it was in one of David Icke's books that I read where he mentions how we have created a "got no time" society, which is why people are always rushing around to get things done, and especially why we have so many impatient drivers racing around everywhere or just parking their cars in inappropriate places just to save a couple of minutes walk.

  13. 7 hours ago, legion said:


    How can you not empathise with the peoples trapped in Gaza..? 



    Don't get me wrong, of course I do empathise with those people, just as much as I empathise with any people being unlawfully attacked and bombarded.


    I'm just pointing out the absurdity of this situation, where people here in the UK were told to be 'horrified' when Hamas attacked Israel, and now while hundreds of innocent people in Palestine are being killed in 'retaliatory attacks' by Israel - because, muh, "Israel has the right to defend itself" - anyone who dares speak out and criticise Israel is being lambasted as a 'terrorist sympathiser' or worse an 'anti-semite'.


    But at the end of the day, this is not 'our' conflict, but it is one that is being used to stoke up divisions across the world.


    If anyone wants to take a side, stand with every innocent person who just wants a nice peaceful life without being bombed or suppressed by some government trying to push an agenda.



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  14. So lets get this straight into a nutshell...


    Hamas terrorists killed some Israelis.




    Israel is now bombing the shit out of Gaza and killing innocent Palestinians. Excessive retaliation?


    Are people still being expected to 'stand with Israel'?


    Seems to me now if you dare to 'stand with Palestine' then you're a terrorist.


    That's what this is all about, 'divide and conquer'. In his superb documentary 'Hypernormalisation', Adam Curtis explored how 'the powers that be' lost control of the narrative that went beyond a straight-forward 'good guys versus bad guys story'.


    It would appear that they are now getting a grip on their narrative.


    Don't fall into the trap of taking a particular side.

  15. 7 hours ago, ArchonBeliever25421932 said:

    So you'd prefer it if they were smoking tobacco? I'm not sure about that.


    That's not what I said. I am glad that fewer younger people are taking up smoking tobacco, but it seems to me that vaping is being promoted as some kind of substitute.


    I would prefer if people did neither.



    Never start vaping, says 12-year-old girl with lung damage


    A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.

    Sarah Griffin had asthma and was a heavy vaper when she was rushed to hospital with breathing problems a month ago.

    Her mum Mary told the BBC she feared she was going to lose her daughter.

    The UK government has announced plans to restrict the marketing and sale of vapes targeted at children.

    Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the proposals - which are open for public consultation for the next eight weeks - would "reverse the worrying rise in youth vaping" by making vapes less colourful and less appealing to children.

    Health Secretary Steve Barclay said the government was committed to taking immediate legislative action following the consultation, telling BBC Radio 4's Today programme "head teachers are concerned, parents are concerned, about our children being targeted" by vape companies.

    from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67081855


    Children can't afford to buy cigarettes now, and haven't been able to for several years, which was great.


    E-cigarettes and the original vapes should have remained as smoking cessation aids.


    Vapes should never have been allowed to become a new 'lifestyle' alternative.



    It was the first thing she did in the morning and the last thing she did at night - sleeping with the vape on her pillow.

    Even though it's illegal to sell vapes to anyone under the age of 18, Sarah bought vapes over the counter and became addicted to the nicotine hit.

    Sarah's asthma and the fact she was not good at using her preventative inhaler left her at risk of complications.


    They still contain nicotine, which is addictive. I'd probably be less bothered by this if someone had invented nicotine-free vapes.


    For that reason, I would disagree with anyone who considers vapes to be 'harmless'.

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  16. The way I look at this, I remember when e-cigarettes (electronic cigarettes) were introduced, they were sold and marketed as an alternative aid to quit smoking, as they looked like cigarettes and satisfied the nicotine craving, without the harmful 'cancer-causing' effects of inhaling tobacco smoke.


    I had one from ROK at the time, and while I never had any success at actually quitting smoking, I do think it helped for a time, and maybe if I had a bit more willpower I might have succeeded.


    The thing with 'vapes' is that they followed on after the e-cigarettes, but seemed to me to be a lot more cumbersome to use, with multi-piece devices.


    These were initially also marketed as smoking cessation aids. However it seems that some kind of 'culture' developed around vaping, and it has somehow become 'trendy' and 'cool' to be seen to be vaping.


    While I'm glad that fewer young people are taking up smoking cigarettes - presumably because they are so unaffordable now - it is disheartening to see so many youngsters, even many under the age of 16, puffing away on cheap disposable vape devices instead.


    These should never have been something that anyone would ever consider using if they'd never gone near a cigarette before.


    It's just replacing one addiction with another.


    I still smoke cigarettes, and I will at some point give them up of my own accord, but in the meantime I won't be turning to e-cigarettes or vapes again.

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  17. I saw this story earlier on the Birmingham Mail website, and I think this is all a bit suspect.


    Bed bugs 'now in London AND Manchester' amid fears Birmingham could be next


    The reported sighting of more bed bugs in another UK city has sparked fears the insects could soon spread to Birmingham. The Sun reports that a small bug was seen crawling on a bus window in Manchester this week, just days after a London Underground passenger reportedly spotted one on her leg.

    The photo of the bug on the bus was uploaded to X, formerly Twitter, with the caption: "Do something about this quickly". FirstBus, who operates the public transport service, replied: "This is really concerning to see and we do apologise for this."

    The sightings in the UK as Paris struggles with a widespread bed bug infestation, with deputy mayor of the city, Emmanuel Gregoire, telling French TV station LCI on Friday: "You have to understand that in reality no one is safe. Obviously there are risk factors but in reality, you can catch bed bugs anywhere and bring them home.

    from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/bed-bugs-now-london-manchester-27878108


    (My emphasis in bold)


    Is there really just a massive over-reaction to this? People like Sadiq Khan are using words like 'concern'. The media use "sparked fear". How deadly and serious is this problem?



    Sleep expert Kora Habinakova recently shared some top tips for spotting the bugs - and how to combat them. They said while bed bugs generally do not cause any health issues, their bites can be itchy and irritating.

    So is this just another fear-mongering non-story?


    Actually my favourite part of this story was the bit that came before the above quote:



    With concerns mounting over the insects crossing the Channel to invade British homes


    No no no, you can't call them that, they are 'refugees'! 😁

  18. Of course this all spreads far beyond Israel and Palestine.


    Israel attack: London police patrols increase amid celebration claims


    Police patrols have increased across London after videos emerged of what appears to be people celebrating the Hamas attack on Israel.

    Home Secretary Suella Braverman has said she expects the police to "use the full force of the law" against displays of support for Hamas.

    The Met said it would provide a visible presence to "reassure communities".

    On Saturday, Palestinian militants launched a major assault into Israel from Gaza.

    Posting on X, formerly known as Twitter, Ms Braverman said: "Whenever Israel is attacked, Islamists and other racists use Israeli defensive measures as a pretext to stir up hatred against British Jews.

    "Yesterday I spoke with CST—UK [Community Security Trust] to ensure the Government is doing everything necessary for the protection of our Jewish communities.

    "There must be zero tolerance for antisemitism or glorification of terrorism on the streets of Britain."

    from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67040611


    It's a classic 'divide and conquer' tactic, where people living far away from this conflict are encouraged to 'stand with Israel' or 'show solidarity with Palestine'.


    Well I for one am not playing this game any more.



    People have shared videos on social media showing Palestinian flags being waved, beeping car horns and clapping.

    Mr Jenrick urged the police to "take this seriously", adding that "there is no place for this in the UK".

    This has been happening for some time in Birmingham and I don't recall the police ever doing anything about this here.


    Any animosity is not directed towards 'British Jews', the hatred is being stirred-up against 'non-Muslims'.

  19. Are people really this beholden to technology?


    Tourists using sat-nav jam car in narrow Tenby footpath




    A car was left jammed in a narrow footpath in a seaside town for a week after two tourists went the wrong way using sat-nav.

    The driver managed to get the new Nissan Juke through a gap near the RNLI station in Tenby, Pembrokeshire.

    The mechanic who helped remove it said the American women blamed the sat-nav before abandoning the car to catch a train to their hotel.

    "No-one's ever got a vehicle down there before," said Stephen Lowe.

    They were trying to get to St Catherine's Island, which is at the foot of the nearby beach.

    Mr Lowe said the tourists drove until they could go no further.

    A protected Victorian heritage wall perched on the cliff made the extraction tricky.

    from https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67032246


    I would like to think that a sat-nav would have been unlikely to direct motorists that way.

    Even so, surely anyone could have seen there was no way they would get their car through there?



    [The walls were] touching on both sides of the car," he said. "They got it wedged and they just put more power on.



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  20. On 10/4/2023 at 9:30 AM, Observations said:

    Mr Farage is at the conference for the first time in a decade - albeit on a media pass in his capacity as a GB News commentator - 30 years after he quit in protest at the Maastricht Treaty. 


    He has been given a rapturous reception by the Tory faithful, and was filmed dancing energetically with Priti Patel to Frankie Valli's Can't Take My Eyes Off You.

    That should tell you all anyone needs to know.


    Ms Patel was famously sacked from her ministerial position after being found out having 'secret meetings' with Israeli government officials while claiming to be 'on holiday' there.


    You're right, they're all part of 'the club'.


    Farage used UKIP to corral disaffected Tory voters, and he did the same with the Brexit Party / Reform.


    As I mentioned earlier, Farage actually had the nerve to urge UKIP voters to 'back Boris' in order to 'get Brexit done'.


    Here's a prediction: when Labour win the next general election and the Conservatives are back in opposition, the Reform party will be dissolved, and both Tice and Farage will return to the Tories.

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  21. 'Birmingham must get itself out of its own mess'


    Birmingham got itself into its financial mess and will have to get itself out, according to the man brought in to oversee the crisis-hit city council.

    That meant, said government-appointed commissioner Max Caller, that taxpayers would have to foot some of the bill to help stabilise the authority.

    Major job losses have also not been ruled out by Mr Caller.

    Birmingham declared itself effectively bankrupt last month.

    On 5 September, facing an immediate budget shortfall of £87m, the council formally acknowledged it could no longer balance its books by way of a Section 114 notice.

    All but non-essential spending has been halted, with the government assigning commissioners to guide the authority through.

    A team of eight - led by Mr Caller, who has branded Birmingham's woes the biggest challenge of his career - is expected to be in place for the next five years.

    from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-67029773


    Well, I didn't vote for these Labour clowns, and I think its a bit rich for Birmingham residents to face increased council tax bills because this Labour council had no fiscal awareness.


    But for these commissioners I guess it's "nice work" and at least they're being handsomely rewarded.



    The commissioners will each be paid £1,100 a day - £1,200 for the lead commissioner - for up to 150 days a year.

    The team is to report to the Levelling Up secretary within six months and thereafter at six-monthly intervals, or at such other times in arrangement with commissioners.




    So, not even a full-time job, and being paid THAT much a day?


    It's not been made clear who is paying this salary, whether it is the government or the council.


    But still, this works out to a cost of £6.675m over five years.


    Expect more councils and local authorities to end up going down this route in the next couple of years.

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  22. On 10/4/2023 at 10:45 PM, Henrawrian said:

    Also, if you check out Ickonic.com, a lot of the videos posted on there goes against Mr.Icke's views on the nature of reality.  It's as if he himself doesn't know the contents he puts on his own platform.


    Ickonic is not David Icke's platform, it is a venture that was set up by his sons Gareth and Jaymie, and which happens to host a lot of David's videos.

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