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  1. 20 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

    we here(croatia) are having some big numbers of new cases...but nobody calls it a second wave


    7 minutes ago, KillBill said:

    Melbourne (Victoria, Australia): surge in 'cases' only, not deaths, not hospital admissions.



    It really all depends on how these new 'cases' are being reported.


    From tests? Or from people confirming/admitting that they have 'symptoms'?


    We know here for a fact that the 'tests' are flawed, and can't possibly confirm the presence of a 'virus' that has never been isolated.


    But if the list of 'symptoms' is extended, then more people will 'believe' that they have this 'Covid-19' thing, on the basis that the list of symptoms includes most of those associated with many 'minor ailments'.


    The 'second wave' is imaginary, and the people themselves are willing it to happen, aided and abetted by the controlling media.


    Here in the UK, today pubs and hairdressers are open again, and on the one hand you have people who have been looking forward to getting their hair cut and having a beer with old friends, then on the other there are those that are moaning that this is all "too soon" and are refusing to go along because they don't want to "get the virus".


    The 'second wave' will happen thanks to those who have been sufficiently brain-washed by the media/government propaganda first time around, and 'project' their fear into existence.



  2. 8 minutes ago, alexa said:


    Thanks GO, This interests me b/c the centre of earth is called 'The Magnetic North' or the Axis Mundi. I'll look into this more. 


    Well I don't know about that, but I believe there may be some misconceptions about the Earth's magnetism, based on the theory that the Earth's core is a solid ball of iron.


    I don't know how we know this 'for certain' as we've never actually tunnelled that far. ?


    But electromagnetism and the 'Electric Universe' theory does resonate with me somewhat. The Earth itself does not need an iron core to be magnetic.


    Its all incredibly fascinating, to look at models of solar systems, with 'planets' orbiting around 'stars', and then to compare them with the make-up of atoms and molecules, with protons and electrons orbiting around and all that.


    "As above, so below" and all that. We look out to the stars and see a giant universe, but perhaps there is also a giant universe within each of us all too.



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  3. 11 minutes ago, alexa said:


    How does electromagnetism make more sense GO ? I'm interested.


    Have you ever played with magnets?


    You can make magnets 'stick' to each other, if you align them correctly. On the other hand, if you reverse their alignment, then they will 'repel' each other, and push themselves apart.


    If you're really skilled, you can make one balance upon the other ?


    Gravity is the idea that heavy objects fall to the ground because 'weight', and thats the reason why we don't all float off into space. When you look at everything being 'electromagnetic', we as humans stick to the ground because we are all somehow magnetically charged and balanced, perhaps that is why the Moon does not crash into the Earth. ?


    I'm no expert on this matter, so take a look further into this. Think about the concepts of us being 'attracted' and 'repelled' as human beings, and then think about electromagnetism that way too. It makes sense when you consider how David Icke refers to us all as 'energy' and 'waveforms'.

  4. To be honest, regarding the 'sphere Earth' and 'flat Earth' schools of thought...


    ...I'm at a stage now where I really don't give a shit whether the Earth is flat or a globe.


    You guys can argue and bicker all you like, I do wonder if this 'debate' is itself a 'massive conspiracy' to keep people distracted and occupied.


    And as for 'gravity', there probably is no such thing, but if you think about things in terms of 'electromagnetism', then this makes much more sense.



  5. On 6/25/2020 at 2:06 PM, Storm in the garden said:

    Before that I had read a Garth Crooks "article" lamenting the absence of black managers in top tier football which needs to be addressed.


    It's not just in football, its everywhere.


    Someone pipes up and moans about the lack of 'black representation' somewhere, and followed with the usual 'needs to be addressed'.


    Like I commented elsewhere here, it is not just enough to 'demand something is done', what is the proposed solution?


    Whether its 'more females at boardroom level', or 'more black managers in football', or more 'ethnic minority representation in parliament', have these agenda-pushers ever considered this basic question...


    Maybe they don't want to do it?


    Good football players don't automatically become good managers, you're either 'able to' or 'not able to'. And this ability has nothing to do with the colour of one's skin.


    It already seems to me from observation that there already seems to be a majority of black and ethnic minority footballers in the top leagues. Does that automatically entitle them all to become 'winning' managers too?


    You can't force someone to become something they don't want to be. And this is one of the problems with 'diversity quotas' and all that, where you can't be seen to make appointments based on meritocracy, it has to be done on 'political correctness'.

  6. 9 minutes ago, Gee said:

    The BBC are running an article on 5g and corona con/therioes. On the face of it they are letting unhappy people speak their peice, although it does look as though they have unbalanced the people argueing through academic acumen... i.e. those representing the concerns seem to have been picked in order to make the argument seem like rambling idiots beleiving anything. Good old BBC always giving balance.


    I saw this earlier today:



    Of course, the BBC dismisses the 5G 'conspiracy theory' with the usual "no credible scientific evidence" line.


    Well, of course there is 'no credible evidence' of 5G being a danger to anyone's health... because no 'respected scientific expert' has actually done any proper research into this.


    So lets flip this round and then ask the question "okay so where is the credible scientific evidence that 5G is perfectly safe then?"


    And any independent research that has been undertaken gets automatically dismissed, because it has not been undertaken by the 'respected scientific experts' who must be listened to without question.


    The BBC's documentary is meant to make the majority of people believe that all this stuff about coronavirus being 'fake' and that 5G is bad for health are just 'baseless conspiracy theories'.


    I watched that trailer and I actually had sympathy for the people they were trying to ridicule. It had the opposite effect on me.

  7. 4 minutes ago, kj35 said:

    Ok face masks were mandatory and enforced. 


    You don't need to wear a face mask to eat or drink


    You MUST wear a face covering at all times while travelling on a plane...


    ..UNLESS you are consuming over-priced food and drink purchased in-flight


    Really, you have to laugh at the sheer ludicrousness of it all ?

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  8. Which airport did you fly out from?


    To be honest, I don't go to the airport to eat food or do shopping (all over-priced), I go there so I can get on a plane! ?️


    I suppose it is a bit tricky to sit and eat or drink if you're expected to keep your face covered. :classic_ninja:

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  9. 13 hours ago, ink said:

    Ok .... An update


    Although this will not be a long post .... some definitions may help ....

    • old forum = the read only pre-March 2019 forum
    • hacked forum = the social forum from the closure of the old forum
    • new forum = the one being created which goes live on 10th July

    There is much which has occurred even down to a 'hack' of the hacked forum back in January.  This was gotten over but then the old forum had 'problems'.

    All of the 'Icke' websites have had many issues and they continue :(


    The new forum is created and the time that it has taken is down to trying to convert the near 6 million posts from the old forum into the new structure .... this has not been successful.

    Now the developers are trying just to re-create it into a read only once again.


    The new forum goes live on the 10th of this month .... It will begin with the threads/posts made on this current temporary forum.


    The hacked forum threads and posts .... have been lost.


    Thanks for the update. Not great to hear that the posts from the 'hacked' Social have been lost, but at least someone has 'come clean' and made an honest admission.


    But this 'bad news' is at least offset by the fact that the 'old forum' can be restored and kept as an archive. If the old forum has a backup, it should be relatively easy to restore to a new hosting account.


    Can you say at all if the 'new forum' is going to use this current Invision system or some other forum software?

  10. 42 minutes ago, Velma said:

    "There were those here who took this lightly. They said that the virus would go away on its own, but it has not gone away. They said, 'In summer, the heat will eliminate the virus'.


    However, reality has proven this assumption to be baseless. Summer is here and so is the virus in a big way, unfortunately."


    Clearly it isn't a 'coronavirus' then, isn't it? ?


    THERE IS NO VIRUS! :classic_ninja:

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  11. 2 minutes ago, ink said:


    But isn't that the idea mate?

    Allow it for now and then when 'people' use it .... create a storm of backlash and close it down!

    It's the same shit over and over .... justify the implementation of a technocracy via inducing fear into the programmed mass through the use of our resistance!



    1 minute ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:


    When you say that the exemptions cards are open to abuse, I would suggest that the abuse lies with the controllers imposing mandatory wearing of face coverings rather than those resisting the tyranny of it.


    When I mentioned "open to abuse", I meant to follow this up... 'abuse' in a rebellious way of course.


    I personally have no 'condition' that makes me exempt from having to wear a face covering, I just think it is ridiculous and completely unneeded.


    So all I have to do is obtain this graphic from Transport for West Midlands, and I don't have to wear a face covering, and if anyone challenges me, I just need to show this card.


    I'm just picturing a situation where you have a majority of passengers on a bus not wearing masks, while two or three (fully masked up) are tut-tutting away to themselves and sending angry tweets and emails complaining about other passengers 'putting my life at risk' by 'not following the rules', and demanding that the bus operator sacks the driver for letting them on.


    Yes, it is all about getting people to 'comply' and to become 'obedient'. If we end up with 75% of passengers travelling without face coverings wielding these cards, the obedient 'minority' will be the first to start 'demanding' that action is taken, and thats when all the 'digital ID' stuff will start being encouraged.

  12. YOU MUST WEAR A FACE COVERING ON PUBLIC TRANSPORT :classic_ninja: unless you are unable to :classic_rolleyes:


    Check this out, I was sent this yesterday, might help anyone else here from the West Midlands region.


    From: https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/plan-your-journey/network-overview/advice-while-travelling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak/face-coverings/



    In line with the latest Government guidance, face coverings must be worn for the full duration of journeys on public transport from Monday 15 June.

    Yours protects them and theirs protects you - Scientific advice says that face coverings can help reduce the chance of infecting others while out in public.

    However, it is important to remember that face coverings are not a replacement for social distancing and you should still do this wherever possible alongside regular hand washing.


    I still haven't seen this 'scientific advice' published or linked to anywhere. I like how they point out that wearing face coverings is 'not a replacement' for social distancing.


    So what's the point then really? If we're all forced to wear face coverings, then surely we can all be packed together on buses and trains? (Like they did in London during lockdown on the tube!)


    Anyway, it turns out that all you need to do in order to get away with not having to wear a face covering on public transport in the West Midlands is to download and print off this card, then just show it to the driver and any passengers scowling at you from behind their own masks.



    Exemption Card

    To support people with hidden health or mental conditions or disabilities we have produced an assistance card which can be downloaded here. You can carry this card and if asked why you are not wearing a face covering you can show this to a staff member or fellow passenger.  

    You can also download the image here and save to your phone to show if you don't have a printer. 

    Or you can ask a member of staff at Coventry, Dudley, Walsall or West Bromwich bus stations for a printed card. They are also available at Wolverhampton and Birmingham New Street Travel Centres. 


    So if you genuinely have a condition that exempts you from having to wear a face covering, you just need to print off or obtain one of these 'cards' to show anyone who challenges you.


    But equally, if you just don't fancy having to wear a face covering, you just need to print off or obtain one of these cards. No questions asked.


    That's how I'm reading this. Oh, this is surely open to abuse isn't it? ?



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  13. 26 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

    ramp up manufacturing operations to handle demand for COVID-19 testing kits in the event of a second wave of infections in the fall.


    If these COVID-19 testing kits don't work, talk about 'stimulating demand' for a product.


    The more people get tested, the more 'positives' will come back (false positives of course), so there's your 'second wave'. And thus, more people will want to get tested, and tested again, and tested over and over again.


    Has anyone ever actually seen one of these testing kits? I wonder how much they actually cost to produce, and how much they're being sold for.

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  14. Some of the 'whiners' in this article are unbelievable...


    Commuters' fury as bus drivers 'refuse to challenge' passengers for not wearing masks

    Unite the union said it is 'not the role of bus drivers' to prevent someone without a face covering from boarding a bus.

    from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/commuters-fury-bus-drivers-refuse-18527797



    One worried passenger said: "It's compulsory to wear face coverings on ALL public transport, so why are drivers letting people on without?"

    But Unite the union, which represents more than 80,000 bus workers, said it was not the role of the driver to enforce the rules.

    Instead, it claimed the health of drivers was being put at risk by the 'failure of police and bus operators in dealing with the problem'.

    And the union said, as a result, a second spike in Covid-19 infections was 'becoming likely'.


    I agree that it is not the role of the driver to enforce this. Bus drivers are paid to drive the bus and issue tickets.


    But I disagree with Unite's pushing of the 'idea' that a 'second spike' of so-called infections is likely.



    Bobby Morton, Unite national officer for public transport, said: "Unite members are increasingly reporting the rules on face coverings and social distancing on public transport, especially buses, are being flouted.

    "With the frequency of public transport increasing and passenger numbers rising, the danger of a second spike will be greatly increased unless decisive action is taken to ensure the rules are followed.

    "It is not the role of bus drivers, nor do they have the power, to prevent someone without a face covering from boarding a bus.

    "The failure of bus operators and the police to deal with this increasing problem is potentially risking the health of bus workers and passengers, and could have disastrous consequences for the nation’s public health."


    So come on then Unite, what is YOUR proposed solution to all this?


    I get fed up of these people who constantly point a finger of blame, and demand 'something to be done', or warn 'unless decisive action is taken' etc etc. but never actually offer any kind of solution or proposal.


    Probably because the 'solution' they'd like to implement wouldn't be very popular with the general public.

  15. I really don't think it matters whether Trump or Biden wins, the 'agenda' will push on regardless.


    What will be interesting to look for is who Biden chooses as his 'running mate', ie who would become deputy president if he wins. Same goes for Trump.


    The 'next president' will end up being someone 'unelected' - ie Trump or Biden would be 'disposed' of in order for 'them' to get their 'chosen one' in place, someone who wouldn't normally stand a chance of winning any 'popular vote'.


    Its all a sham. The way things are heading at the moment, what with 'Covid-19' and the 'BLM' frenzy, its probably not looking good for Trump, so this could all be being engineered to give Biden an unlikely victory.


    The likelihood is that regardless of whoever 'wins' this election, the levels of division and unrest in the USA are just going to end up being stoked even higher. And I think its all being done deliberately, this is after all exactly what "they" want, people arguing and fighting each other.



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  16. BBC has more on this:




    A new strain of flu that has the potential to become a pandemic has been identified in China by scientists.

    It emerged recently and is carried by pigs, but can infect humans, they say.

    The researchers are concerned that it could mutate further so that it can spread easily from person to person, and trigger a global outbreak.

    While it is not an immediate problem, they say, it has "all the hallmarks" of being highly adapted to infect humans and needs close monitoring.

    As it's new, people could have little or no immunity to the virus.

    The scientists write in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that measures to control the virus in pigs, and the close monitoring of swine industry workers, should be swiftly implemented.


    I suppose the first question to be asked is "how was this discovered?"


    "Measures to control the virus in pigs" also sounds fairly omminous, mass slaughter of pigs then? No more bacon butties or sausages?


    Pork to become 'haram'... oh wait...




    The last pandemic flu the world encountered - the swine flu outbreak of 2009 - was less deadly than initially feared, largely because many older people had some immunity to it, probably because of its similarity to other flu viruses that had circulated years before.


    That virus, called A/H1N1pdm09, is now covered by the annual flu vaccine to make sure people are protected.

    The new flu strain that has been identified in China is similar to 2009 swine flu, but with some new changes.


    "New changes", or perhaps 'upgrades'.


    Looks like your virus protection is out of date and you need to update it then...



    How worried should we be?

    The virus, which the researchers call G4 EA H1N1, can grow and multiply in the cells that line the human airways.

    They found evidence of recent infection in people who worked in abattoirs and the swine industry in China when they looked at data from 2011 to 2018.

    Current flu vaccines do not appear to protect against it, although they could be adapted to do so if needed.


    With a heading like that, its obvious that the BBC already wants their reader to "be worried".



    Prof Kin-Chow Chang, who works at Nottingham University in the UK, told the BBC: "Right now we are distracted with coronavirus and rightly so. But we must not lose sight of potentially dangerous new viruses."

    While this new virus is not an immediate problem, he says: "We should not ignore it."

    In theory, a flu pandemic could occur at any time, but they are still rare events. Pandemics happen if a new strain emerges that can easily spread from person to person.

    Although flu viruses are constantly changing - which is why the flu vaccine also needs to change regularly to keep up - they do not usually go pandemic.

    Prof James Wood, head of the Department of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Cambridge, said the work "comes as a salutary reminder" that we are constantly at risk of new emergence of pathogens, and that farmed animals, with which humans have greater contact than with wildlife, may act as the source for important pandemic viruses.


    It very much sounds to me like a narrative is being formed here that vaccines need to be 'upgraded' on a regular basis, in order to 'keep us safe' from any new variants of viruses that emerge.



    A World Health Organization spokeswoman said: "Eurasian avian-like swine influenza virus are known to be circulating in the swine population in Asia and to be able to infect humans sporadically. Twice a year during the influenza vaccine composition meetings, all information on the viruses is reviewed and the need for new candidate vaccine viruses is discussed. We will carefully read the paper to understand what is new.

    "It also highlights that we cannot let down our guard on influenza; we need to be vigilant and continue surveillance even during the COVID-19 pandemic."


    And the WHO is sticking its oar in already. We haven't even seen the 'coronavirus vaccine' yet, and they're talking about looking for vaccines for the 'next' virus pandemic.


    Keep an eye on this one folks...

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    Scientists have identified a new type of flu which has 'pandemic potential'.

    The discovery, which has taken place in China, has seen medical experts unearth a brand-new strain of flu - less than one year after the first case of coronavirus was recorded.

    Covid-19 is believed to have first infected a human being at a wet market in China, and has been identified as a superspreader in the ongoing pandemic.

    Now, scientists have found a new virus in pigs which has the potential to spread around the globe, becoming a pandemic.

    But medics have assured the public there is no current need to worry, with no "imminent threat" of the disease spreading.

    Experts will keep a close eye on the new strain of flu, which was found in swine.


    From: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-flu-strain-potential-become-18513720


    I know, lets call this "swine flu"...



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  18. We knew this was coming, the warning signs were given a while back.


    "They" knew they would not be able to get away so easily this time round by putting the whole country on 'lockdown' again.


    So now "they" intend to do this bit by bit, one city, town or borough at a time.


    I guess the hope is that people in areas that haven't been 'locked-down' will "comply" and go along with government orders and directives in 'fear' of being forced to go into lockdown.


    Why are cases increasing in these areas when stats show that the overall number of cases has actually been decreasing? Could there be more 'cases' now that the list of 'symptoms' has increased to cover the vast majority of minor ailments and conditions?


    Dodgy curry or kebab gives you the squits the next day? Must be Covid!


    Too many sherries the night before and you got a hangover in the morning? Must be Covid!


    Runny nose, congestion and headaches from your hay fever? Nah mate, you got Covid!


    In a way, this is also somehow undermining the Government's attempts at trying to get the country back to normal, with more businesses including pubs, restaurants and hairdressers being able to open again from July 4th, as there is a definite faction using the media in particular to ramp up peoples' fear levels again in order to get people to oppose the lifting of lockdown restrictions.


    "PLEASE please don't open the pubs, we're NOT READY for this!" etc etc



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  19. 2 hours ago, SuperstarNeilC said:



    It's all the bloody same mantra, "the best way" to beat this virus is to "wash your hands".




    So I guess the question to be asked then, if everybody is dutifully spending all day washing their hands, there is excessive use of hand sanitiser, and public spaces are regularly being cleaned and disinfected...


    ...why are people still getting sick?


    I mean, not from 'coronavirus' or 'covid-19', but other illnesses as well? Many minor illnesses and complaints are caused by nefarious bacteria and viruses.


    So are these other bacteria somehow immune to all this 'hand-washing' and disinfecting bullshit?

  20. I managed to sign up at the second attempt yesterday.


    Was a bit put off by the fact that the 'verification' method they use so you can become a 'Parler Citizen' (ie prove you are a real person) is to either take a photo of, or upload a scan, of the front and back of a US driving licence, and to provide a 'selfie'.


    They may claim that these images are not 'stored' anywhere and are deleted once the verification process is complete.


    I guess this screws people like me who don't have US driving licences.


    Is this, as has been suggested already, some kind of 'honeypot'?

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