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  1. 2 hours ago, k_j_evans said:

    OK, So where's my Heat wave????? We were promised a heatwave for Halloween and I was planning on putting another coat of paint on the back door and my yard wall - instead we have constant rain and flood warnings. Will it happen by Tuesday - asking for a friend?


    Doesn't look like it! 😁


    Depends on where you are in the UK... it stayed dry all day today here in Birmingham despite the Weather Channel forecasting "rain possible after 1pm" this morning, then as the day progressed it changed to 'after 4pm', then 'after 7pm', now at the time of writing it says 'after 00:30'.


    I should have taken the opportunity to collect up the remainder of the leaves in my garden, but chose to have a nice stroll through The Dingles (Shire Country Park) in the afternoon sunshine instead!


    Looks like it will be a bit wet and windy again the remainder of this week - as Guns N' Roses sung in 1991 "it's hard to hold a candle in the cold November rain"



  2. 19 hours ago, factJack said:

    Tamworth couple charged £11k for gas after 18 years with no bill


    If you check some of the comments, people on twitter have spotted these pair as crisis actors wheeled out by the bbc for more of their propaganda.

    Straight out of the bbc play book, let most of the sheeple riddicule the actors appearance, but the message will be embedded into their minds without them paying too much attention.

    I've seen them do this many times, one time was something like free school dinners and they use an extremely obese child or huge mother from an ethnic background.


    Yeah, I saw this story the other day on the Birmingham Mail website, and yeah same thing, most comments taking the piss out the guy's hair.


    Couple who hadn't paid for gas in 18 years shocked to receive £11k bill



    I think "crisis actors" is a bit of a strong term to use, but it would seem that they may well be actors of some kind who have posed for a series of photos at some point.


    They both appeared in the following story that did the rounds last month:


    Royal Mail threatens to boycott this Staffordshire home - because of cat Ernie



    Royal Mail threatened to stop delivering to a couple - after claims their naughty cat was attacking posties through the letterbox. A letter sent to Lee Haynes and Jo Woodley said their tabby's roaming paws were making visits to their Staffordshire house dangerous.

    The pair say Ernie, a 'placid' three-year-old, was just playing - but Royal Mail asked for action to protect its workers. Now Lee and Jo have installed an exterior letterbox their pet can't get at.

    School site worker Lee, aged 44, said: "It's hilarious. He's such a placid cat and this is like he's got some kind of ASBO. It's so funny. They've sent all the way from Plymouth, instead of just sticking a note on the door. It's not malicious. It’s a game to him."

    from: https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/royal-mail-threatens-boycott-staffordshire-8772109


    I note with interest that the co-writer of the Stoke Sentinel article is Kate Pounds, who also co-wrote the above BBC News article - does it really take two people to write this nonsense?


    Also it is not hard to notice that this couple are wearing exactly the same clothes, and posing in the same place.


    What I also find interesting is that the photos are credited to 'SWNS' - "South-West News Service".


    I've never heard of this organisation, and from the name I would have assumed they were based in the south-west of England (Devon, Somerset, Cornwall etc), therefore what interest would they have in a couple from Staffordshire?


    Then to satisfy my own curiosity as I sit and type all this out, I looked them up and found this:



    I will look further into this, but looks like some kind of agency that 'churns out' news articles for other publications to use.


    No wonder there is so much shite being peddled around Reach news sites!

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  3. 6 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:



    Another mass shooting, the familiar voices in the head, military and weapons experience type person.

    Military Psyops?


    Surveillance technology?

    Real mental illness? 


    What are everyone’s thoughts on these shootings? 


    Problem, reaction, solution.


    A suspect has been named by police, but is apparently still 'at large'.


    • Police earlier named Robert Card, 40, as a person of interest, saying he is "armed and dangerous"
    • State Governor Janet Mills warns the public not to approach the suspect
    • Lewiston, a city of about 38,000, is on lockdown - businesses have been told to close and people to stay at home
    • Officers have widened the "shelter in place" order to include nearby Bowdoin, Auburn and Lisbon


    STAY SAFE, stay at home (sound familiar?)

    Someone 'armed and dangerous' and not yet apprehended, means everyone is expected to be 'afraid'.

    They want you fearful and afraid.


    With the exception of a few dog walkers, the only outside are either media or law enforcement, mostly clustered nearby the two sites of the shooting and the Central Maine Medical Center, where some of the 13 injured are being treated.

    Brave dog walkers!


    Anyway, Biden soon made things clear:



    He says he and First Lady Jill Biden are praying for the victims.

    "Far too many Americans have now had a family member killed or injured as a result of gun violence," he says.

    "That is not normal, and we cannot accept it."

    He ends the statement by urging lawmakers to ban assault weapons, among other sweeping gun control measures.

    "This is the very least we owe every American," he says.


    To be honest, I'm not sure why any 'normal' person would 'need' an assault rifle, however it is the broader gun control measures they are really pushing for.


    Once a significant proportion of the US population is sufficiently 'disarmed', that's when the real totalitarianism will start to kick in.


    However as regards to people being killed or injured by gun violence, I do have to point out that in the UK, where I am, while we do have some very strict gun controls already in place, and guns are not as freely available to buy as they are in the US, while we have very few 'mass shootings', we do still have people being killed or injured nearly every day as a result of gun violence.


    Gun control measures aren't any solution, as hardened criminals and drug-dealers will always find a way and have access to guns.



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  4. 5 hours ago, factJack said:

    totally just saw this on the tv news

    Artist pulps 6,000 copies of The Da Vinci Code and turns them into 1984


    Obviously there's a coded message if it's broadcast on TV




    I saw that earlier today on the BBC News website.


    I've never heard of this 'artist' before, and wouldn't dream of spending £495 on one of his copies of '1984'.


    But I was glad to hear that he recommends it as "a really important book for people to read"


    Unsurprisingly the BBC didn't go too much into detail about '1984'.



    The novel 1984 tells the story of Winston Smith, a man questioning the system of a dystopian society. It introduced the phrases Big Brother and Room 101 and is regarded as one of the best books ever, making Time Magazine's list of the all-time 100 novels.


    I think there's a lot more to the story than that, but at least the BBC didn't try and take the opportunity to discredit the book as a work of fiction "loved by conspiracy theorists who believe the events in the book are happening now"



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  5. On 10/25/2023 at 1:46 AM, Grumpy Grapes said:

    The Piri Reis map - if genuine - throws a spanner in the mainstream theory. 


    "The official science has been saying all along that the ice-cap which covers the Antarctic is million years old. The Piri Reis Antarctica map shows that the northern part of that continent has been mapped before the ice did cover it. That should make us think it has been mapped million years ago, but that’s impossible since mankind did not exist at that time. Further and more accurate studies have proven that the last period of ice-free condition in the Antarctic ended about 6000 years ago. There are still doubts about the beginning of this ice-free period, which has been put by different researchers everywhere between year 13000 and 9000 BC. The question is: Who mapped the Queen Maud Land of Antarctic 6000 years ago? Which unknown civilization had the technology or the need to do that?"


    The other one that interests me are the old maps of Africa, in particular those showing North Africa as being green and lush, where obviously the Sahara desert is now.


    Yet 'official science' tells us the Sahara is also millions of years old. Later maps 'lost' a lot of detail shown on older ones, and explorers set out to 'discover' Africa all over again.

  6. 5 hours ago, jack121 said:

    In carbon trading, one credit issued equals 1 tonne of carbon dioxide or another greenhouse gas equivalent removed from the atmosphere.


    So more fake money then.

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  7. On 10/5/2023 at 6:12 AM, Henrawrian said:

    Mr.Icke himself stated in his book, "The Dream," that Amazon controls what can and can't be sold through their company, yet all of his books are sold on Amazon.  He states that the books which speaks out against the cult are especially banned from their platform.  I just can't wrap my head around the fact his books are sold through amazon.  Maybe the banning of his books would do more harm than good?  Banning his books might mean the same thing as, "David is right because we have something to hide" which would make people want to read his books even more.  That's what i want to believe, but the fact that he himself stated in the middle of oage 420 in his book, "The Dream" is making me wonder different possibilities.  I truly wish David Icke is genuine and speaks the truth.  I think i would go mad if he were proven wrong which is why his legitimacy is so important to me.  


    Amazon is the biggest retailer of books on the planet, and I'm sure they'd like to keep things that way.


    At the end of the day, they make money from selling David Icke's books, and they'd rather people bought from them than from other retailers such as Waterstones etc.


    (Personally I'd rather people bought the books direct from the shop on the DavidIcke.com website, even if they are - strangely - a little more expensive, at least the Ickes make more money and Amazon get nothing)


    Waterstones have before taken Icke's books out of their shops, and as Legion pointed out earlier, the Ickes had some trouble with distributors and fulfilment centres refusing to stock or handle their products.


    Which worked out nice for Amazon in the end.


    So yes, it is true that Amazon does control what can and can't be sold on their marketplace, however if there is a demand for products then they will sell them in order to make more money.


    I'd probably disagree with Mr Icke's claim about Amazon banning books that "speak out against the cult" though, on the basis that his books are still available for sale as are Dr Vernon Coleman's, and many others.



    On 10/9/2023 at 6:08 AM, Henrawrian said:

    Everything is pure chaos.  David's Ickonic platform.  The monetary links on his websites.  It's as if David is not looking at what's being out on his website and ickonic platform which he wholeheartedly endorses.  Either David doesn't know the garbage that's being spread on both platforms, or he knows all about them and is allowing them to appear on his website and ickonic platforms.  If it's the latter, then there's something very weird going on with David Icke.  Either he is contradicting everything he's said, or the David Icke we see isn't the man we saw giving his first presentations as a young man in the Brixton academy....


    As I pointed out in another thread here, the Ickonic platform was set up by David's sons Gareth and Jaymie, and I believe Gareth now heads up the DavidIcke.com website, I don't think David himself has much involvement now, apart from appearing in videos on there.


    It's a sad reality that many websites rely on advertising to help pay the bills. I personally hate intrusive adverts which is why I choose to use the Adblock Plus browser plugin.


    So any ads that appear on David's website don't bother me at all.

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  8. On 10/19/2023 at 1:50 PM, Velma said:

    Storm Babet 


    Scotland's deputy first minister Shona Robison urges people to avoid travel and stay at home


    Climate Lockdown


    But to be fair, it's actually sound advice on this occasion.


    I can see that Scotland has had the worst of this weather, but someone has also died in Shropshire.


    Trains and flights are being cancelled, roads are being flooded and closed and bus services have been diverted or curtailed.


    Unless you really have an 'essential' journey to make, it's probably not worth the aggravation or hassle at this time.



  9. 6 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

    my isp has sent me a new router that has a socket to plug the phone in to use voip


    doing research it looks like openreach instals a router on the wall (it needs its own electric socket) connected to the fibre

    then your isp router plugs into that


    See my post further up, we had this at work recently.


    Yes, you'll get a new router, and you'll have a new 'master socket' installed which the router will connect to. (Unless you already have a full fibre connection so have a master socket already)


    The router has ports to connect one or two phones to, and it should include an adapter, so you can plug in any existing phone, doesn't have to be a VOIP type - we used our old cordless DECT phone base unit.


    You still get the familiar dial tones as before. And yes we got to keep our existing landline number too.



    6 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

    i suppose those with no internet and just a landline like my parents will get the openreach router installed and plug the phone into that.


    I think in theory that should work. I know that Vodafone 'cocked up' our broadband installation so we had no internet for nearly 24 hours, however the phone line did still work all the time it was connected to the powered-on router.


  10. 21 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

    To be fair he is not alone in this. Many others in the 'truth community' (and out of it to be fair) only offer repeats of what many others are saying. Part of this might simply be that there is nothing new to add (and there is very little new in the World), and as we often hear, people respond to different people in different ways, or at least how they deliver the message. I agree with you that he could offer much more, certainly about his working in the industry and the contacts he has had with people. 


    I suppose though, that the more people are talking about 'truth' the better. There have been suggestions on here that some other 'truthers' read stuff on here and then make videos about it, and I get why that annoys people somewhat, but perhaps 'the more the merrier' when it comes to this stuff. The only problem is whether that person is controlled oppo or a pied piper, and the jury is out right now for Brand on that. In many ways, Brand shows us how fickle people even in the 'truth community' are, in that even with knowledge of the way this 'Matrix' is built and how society is shaped, they are still going towards the better looking 'leaders' rather than the quality of their content/character. 


    This is one reason why I have warned people before to exercise some caution, because I do believe there is a lot of misinfo/disinfo being 'seeded' into the alternative circles, via Telegram and other chat groups, as well as discussion forms like this one.


    Suddenly this same misinfo/disinfo starts appearing on YouTube and Bitchute videos, and then you have all the usual commentators and internet personalities talking about it.


    I'm not actually a fan of the term 'truther' and so naturally I find anyone who labels themselves as such a bit 'questionable'.


    For clarity, yes I do think there are some genuine 'conspiracy theories' out there, but I'm finding it harder with time to take some of them seriously now.


    Gone are the days when I would just avidly believe anything - I prefer to use my own judgment, intuition and gut instincts.

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  11. On 10/16/2023 at 5:55 PM, RobinJ said:

    Well a lot would depend upon what number and how the country was started at. I think I'm right in saying that the Mayans had 360 days in their calendar not what we have now. The original Egyptians also counted to 360. Our present 365 day year changed many thousands of years ago to add one more layer of subterfuge.


    19 hours ago, RobinJ said:

    Maybe so, however both those cultures made great efforts to record their lives and beliefs.l on stone. 360 was documented elsewhere too. I doubt we will ever know the real truth of how 'time' in this realm/ dimension etc was started and when.



    Maybe it's possible that there once was a time when those calendars were correct and there were 360 days in a year.


    Perhaps something happened in the past, that caused the calendar to have to be extended?


    I like to think that perhaps a solar micronova at some point 'knocked' our planet out of its orbit, and pushed it a little further away from the sun. Maybe not by much, but enough to make our transit just that little bit longer. Or maybe this same event caused our planet to spin just a little bit faster.


    Either way, even in my own lifetime it appears that our 'seasons' have become 'off-kilter' to our calendar, so its possible some further adjustments may need to be made.



  12. 19 hours ago, 2020member said:

    Where i live they seem to be ferried off the rubber dinghys. With a e-bike, just eat backpack and smart phone -starter packs waiting for them. 

    I find it very eerie and dystopian that these guys will be flying about on these e-bikes in years to come whilst the streets lay empty when no one can afford to drive anymore. 

    Dare i say they’ll be ferrying our rations door to door in the 15 minute biometric hellholes. 


    They're the new slave labour class.


    It's ironic how the wokesters continue to complain about 'historical slavery' and go about toppling statues, insisting street names be changed, or demanding that 'reparations be paid', while there is a whole new level of slavery happening right now, which they are facilitating with their 'refugees welcome' placards.

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  13. All part of the plan, spread the divisiveness everywhere. There was a 'protest march' yesterday in Birmingham.


    Massive turnout at Birmingham pro-Palestine march - but Labour councillors 'warned not to attend'


     Pro-Palestinian demonstrators took to the streets for a packed march through Birmingham city centre today. The massive turnout took over swathes of the area as those involved waved flags and chanted as they marched from High Street, up New Street and into Chamberlain Square and Centenary Square.

    A handful of those on the march scaled buildings on the route, including the Library of Birmingham entrance and the foyer of the Odeon cinema on New Street. But the event was peaceful and attracted parents with young children.

    It came amid fears of an Israeli ground offensive in Gaza, with residents told to leave northern parts of the territory, in response to the Hamas terror attacks in Israel last weekend. The United Nations, senior EU figures and aid agencies have all expressed alarm as many Palestinians struggle to flee ahead of a “co-ordinated” offensive in the Gaza Strip involving air, ground and naval forces.


    And after this afternoon's march, it emerged Labour councillors were warned not to attend. BirminghamLive has also seen evidence that a message from the Birmingham Labour Group about the Palestine/Israel situation had a crucial paragraph removed under party orders.

     In a message from the Labour Party ’s general secretary David Evans, sent to all local councillors, they were all “strongly advised” not to attend any events “in the interests of our members’ safety” and to avoid sharing a platform with or being close to “individuals that threaten to undermine the values and principles of the Labour Party.”

    Anyone who did so was told not to carry Labour Party banners, for the same reason. We understand several councillors wished to attend to show their support for the Palestinian people but were too afraid of a party backlash.


    from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/hundreds-attend-birmingham-pro-palestine-27914594


    I was in Sparkbrook today, and there seemed to be these 'Free Palestine' signs everywhere.


    Let me be clear on this, I condemn both Hamas and the Israeli government for slaughtering innocent people.


    But I'm not going to take any sides in this 'conflict'.


    However what is interesting is that there were similar pro-Palestine protests just a few years ago in Birmingham, and the Labour party were very happy to lend their support at the time. (Anything to get the Muslim vote at local elections I suppose)


    But you have to remember that all these politicians are all just opportunist puppets, and with Labour being on the cusp of forming the next government, they now have to be seen to be pandering to their Zionist masters.


    What concerns me here in the UK how people are led being down this divisive path, and as well as the 'social media crackdowns' that we can expect, no doubt we can expect a couple of false-flag 'terror attacks' thrown into the mix, if anything just to stoke up the 'fear factor'. Which will then see further 'crackdowns' on civil liberties.


    The other thing that concerns me are the pleas to 'donate money' - no doubt many Brits will have their heart-strings tugged to 'give what they can', but who knows where this money is really going, sounds to me like people are about to be fleeced again.

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  14. 7 hours ago, Human10 said:

    At least wanted to work...

    That's fair enough, but these illegal immigrants are being exploited as cheap slave labour, being paid less than minimum wage, and often forced to live in atrocious overcrowded living conditions.

    Human traffickers and people smugglers sell a 'dream' to these people, but it is just a big lie.

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  15. What we're almost never told about is what happens to all these people when they get here.


    Sure, while many get housed in swanky hotels at our expense, it is known that many somehow manage to 'escape' and disappear, but no-one has any idea where.


    Many will disappear into the 'black economy' - put up in accommodation in return for cheap slave labour, whether that is washing cars or cutting peoples' hair, or just couriering drugs around the country.


    Or perhaps there are 'legal loopholes' that would allow illegal immigrants to undertake low-paid menial work in this country, while big corporations 'turn a blind eye'?



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  16. I've been enjoying watching this again, a BBC comedy created by Peter Serafinowicz and Robert Popper. The first series was a spoof of 'educational' schools TV programmes, while the second series aped the likes of 'Tomorrows World'.


    The following clip is from the first series, and hints at how easy it will become in the future to generate songs using input keywords, an eerie nod to todays AI generated music...



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  17. 26 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:


    There's too many delivery riders to meet the demand in many areas, so you often get put on waiting list when you sign up to be a rider. You also need to use photo ID. Even though it's low paying work, the rider accounts can be fairly sought-after because of the waiting list to be a rider, to the point where people rent out their rider accounts for others to use.



    Well thanks, that was certainly eye-opening!


    It certainly explains why so many 'economic migrants' are desperate to come to the UK, and why there is so much people-trafficking going on.


    And that Reddit thread is 4 years old now, so this has been going on for some time!


    It must be relatively easy for someone 'legit' to set up loads of Deliveroo accounts and then 'sub-let' them out to illegals, taking a cut of the earnings in the process.


    This is scandalous, but I'm not surprised that this has never been investigated or questioned by the mainstream media. And most normies wouldn't care otherwise, they just keep ordering their takeaways via these apps and just assume that their driver is above board and legit.


    Deliveroo is facilitating illegal immigration and human trafficking.

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  18. On 10/9/2023 at 11:33 PM, Scott Kirkland said:

    I thought we need carbon to help grow plants and crops, also Trees need carbon to turn into oxygen.


    This is the other interesting aspect to this.


    What you refer to is "carbon dioxide", which is a gas that makes up 0.04% of our atmosphere and has been demonised into some kind of 'pollutant' that needs to be reduced.


    Carbon in it's naturally occurring form is a mineral, a non-metallic element.



    Carbon is the 15th most abundant element in the Earth's crust, and the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Carbon's abundance, its unique diversity of organic compounds, and its unusual ability to form polymers at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth, enables this element to serve as a common element of all known life. It is the second most abundant element in the human body by mass (about 18.5%) after oxygen.

    from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon


    "Carbon" and "carbon dioxide" (CO2) in some quarters have become interchangeable terms, though I believe this is misleading as they are not the same thing.


    All talk of "carbon credits", "carbon footprint", "carbon allowance" etc is disingenuous.


    "Carbon taxes" or "carbon emission offsetting" are just a money-making racket to fleece money from wealthy virtue-signallers, as well as us paupers.


    Anyone who ever uses "carbon" instead of "carbon dioxide" or CO2 deserves to be heavily questioned as to what they actually mean.



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  19. Came across this brief story in the Express & Star the other day and it asks more questions than are posed.


    Food delivery rider arrested for immigration offences after cycling down the M6


    A food delivery worker has been arrested for immigration offences after being stopped riding his push bike along the M6 southbound near Birmingham.

    Central Motorway Police issued a warning saying: "The motorway is no place for delivery riders, it's an offence and highly dangerous."

    The incident was reported at around 4am on Tuesday on the team's Twitter page.

    It read: "Male arrested for immigration offences having been stopped riding his push bike along the M6 South between junctions 7-6 he was delivering takeaways."

    Officers have been contacted for further comment.

    from: https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2023/10/10/food-delivery-rider-arrested-for-immigration-offences-after-cycling-down-the-m6/


    I can't find it now, but I did see another article about this, where it was claimed that this idiot person was delivering for Just Eats or Deliveroo (can't remember which one, but it was one of 'those')


    Aside from the fact that cyclists really shouldn't be riding on the motorway, it is interesting that this person was charged with 'immigration offences', and then that was it, story over.


    No information about his immigration status, and no questions about how he was able to gain employment with this company.


    "Immigration offences" suggests to me that this person was an illegal immigrant. From where they came I do not know, but it would seem that they had no right to be in this country.

    (They certainly had no idea about the Highway Code!)


    Which then raises the question of how they were able to gain employment as a delivery driver?


    Do Just Eat, Deliveroo et al have any due process in place to vet their applicants? How on earth do illegal immigrants gain 'legal employment' and pay income tax, national insurance etc?


    How many other illegal immigrants are there working for these companies as delivery drivers?





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  20. On 10/3/2023 at 1:49 PM, 2020member said:

    I live in a fairly large city in England and no matter what time of day I go out (up until about 8/9pm) the traffic is absolutely relentless. 


    If you went back 10 years ago, there would be a lull after the morning rush hour. Then a lull after lunch and then in the evening. But now it is just bedlam whatever time of day you go out. 


    Anyone else experiencing this? and does anyone know where everyone is going at all times of the day?! 


    Where I live out in the outer suburbs of Birmingham, you still get these 'peaks and troughs' of traffic, usually the worst congestion is during the morning and afternoon school journey times, then its relatively quiet on the roads.


    But if you go into the 'inner' suburbs and around the city centre, then I agree, there seems to be heavy traffic at all times of day now.


    I guess this can be put down to several factors:

    - Working hours changes, where more people work 'irregular' shift patterns, as opposed to the 'traditional' 9-5 routine

    - More people 'choosing' not to work, therefore having more time during the day to go driving around to go shopping etc.

    - In addition to the above, more people having nothing better to do than go cruising and racing around in their cars

    - More taxis on the roads - those people who don't own cars are choosing to take 'Ubers' instead of using public transport, due to continued reinforcement of negative perceptions

    - More people avoiding main roads and using side-streets as 'rat-runs' to try and beat traffic queues

    - More people just being 'lazy' and using their cars for very short journeys, eg to drive to a nearby shop that they could easily walk to


    I think it was in one of David Icke's books that I read where he mentions how we have created a "got no time" society, which is why people are always rushing around to get things done, and especially why we have so many impatient drivers racing around everywhere or just parking their cars in inappropriate places just to save a couple of minutes walk.

  21. 7 hours ago, legion said:


    How can you not empathise with the peoples trapped in Gaza..? 



    Don't get me wrong, of course I do empathise with those people, just as much as I empathise with any people being unlawfully attacked and bombarded.


    I'm just pointing out the absurdity of this situation, where people here in the UK were told to be 'horrified' when Hamas attacked Israel, and now while hundreds of innocent people in Palestine are being killed in 'retaliatory attacks' by Israel - because, muh, "Israel has the right to defend itself" - anyone who dares speak out and criticise Israel is being lambasted as a 'terrorist sympathiser' or worse an 'anti-semite'.


    But at the end of the day, this is not 'our' conflict, but it is one that is being used to stoke up divisions across the world.


    If anyone wants to take a side, stand with every innocent person who just wants a nice peaceful life without being bombed or suppressed by some government trying to push an agenda.



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