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  1. 5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

    yeah but how many of those bandwagons are seeded here by bad actors?


    77th brigade operatives can run multiple username accounts and can create a false sense of traction behind any topic they want. They can make up whatever they like and make it into a bandwagon.


    Not just here either. "Free speech platforms" such as BitChute and BrandNewTube are host to many videos that contain what I would label as 'questionable content'.


    Though I don't use it myself, there are numerous groups on Telegram, that share various pieces of information, as well as videos hosted on the afore-mentioned platforms.


    It doesn't take much for 'bad actors' to create misinfo/disinfo, seed it into the various Telegram groups and other social media platforms, then all of a sudden you'll have a 'new member' pop up here on this forum, and then start a new topic to 'share' such content (even if there is already an existing thread on the same subject) here.


    The mainstream media is full of misinfo/disinfo, but we should be mindful of how easy it is equally for misinfo/disinfo to be 'seeded' into the 'alternative media'.


    It doesn't take much for any good decent alternative research to be undermined and discredited by incredulous junk; we need to keep our wits about us, be more discerning about what we read/watch and share with others - question EVERYTHING!

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  2. 2 hours ago, Fifth element said:

    UN military personnel and vehicles were in the UK today September 24th 2022.

    They were expecting something..

    Soldiers marching through London now? (godlikeproductions.com)



    Oh, GodLikeProductions, probably fake then. 🤪


    2 hours ago, Campion said:


    Another reference for this story, tho I don't know the reliability of USA news yet. However, it may help to have another source. 



    What is that site? Looks like another 'fake news' clickbait site to me. 🙄



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  3. 9 hours ago, David Icke Headlines said:

    The End of Big Pharma – The End of Fear: German New Medicine. The late creator Dr Ryke Geerd Hamer was demonised by the Cult to confirm that he was right


    Why has this topic here been 'unpinned'? @lake


  4. 18 hours ago, Campion said:

    But if we're talking about nuclear war then I guess yes during the 70s & 80s it did feel like a real possibility, that's why I went on some CND marches and the like. I had some eye-opening experiences then which were an education.   Maybe there was an element of a deliberately manufactured fear mongering among the public in those days to distract us from (or add to) our domestic woes. 


    I think the key word there is "feel" - yes, when I was younger there was a 'feeling' that a future nuclear war was possible.


    Now I'm older and a bit wiser, I can see now that us ordinary public have been subjected to 'fearmongering' for all of our lives.


    The media recently have been ramping up the 'nuclear war' narrative in regards to Russia/Ukraine, but I don't believe it will come to that.


    But people are being sucked in again into this fearmongering propaganda.

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  5. 2 hours ago, Macnamara said:


    i guess peoples response would be dependent on the nature of the problem


    lets say for example today an alert had gone out on everyones smart phones telling them all that they must drop what they were doing and assemble at certain locations


    would you go or would you think 'nah i'm not going to do that'


    I went out for a walk this afternoon and left my smart phone at home, so I wouldn't have got any alert anyway. 😉


    But many people will now just blindly obey any instructions that their smart phone gives them. Luckily not everyone has one, so this kind of system wouldn't really work on everybody, but undoubtedly you'd have those urging others without phones to 'obey the instructions'.


    It reminds me of the NHS Track And Trace - sorry, "Test And Trace" - app that was supposed to 'keep everyone safe' by letting you know if you'd come into contact with anyone who had 'tested positive for Covid'. Granted a lot of people did install it, but then again many others - including myself - chose not to, so the whole thing was really just a waste of time. But what it did do was lay a new foundation level of control over people, namely in that those people using this app who got 'the ping' would obey the instructions given to them, ie stay at home, get a test, etc.


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  6. 27 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

    Am I missing something here, I found a thread mentioning this Hampstead case and hardly any replies exist at all and not a single person says anything eluding to it being bonafide fact, it was just put up as a documentary and subsequently disappeared off youtube, or at least that link is dead. Why on earth does it even remotely mention DI forum? bizzarre or as said previously am I missing something here?



    I presume the DM article is referring to the 'old' David Icke forum, rather than this current iteration.

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  7. 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

    the tacit message of the story is clear: conspiracy theories are misinformation and cause people to do bad things therefore the plebs must not be allowed to say anything that is not sanctioned by the state


    Yes, in a similar vein we had this here yesterday:

    Protests lead to social media misinformation warning


    West Midlands Police have asked people to be mindful of misinformation and rumour on social media after two protests took place.

    About 50 people gathered near a Hindu temple in Coventry on Thursday. Earlier, 150 people met in Smethwick which resulted in minor disorder.

    The reasons surrounding the protests are complex, police said, but added it was working with community leaders.

    Unsubstantiated claims on social media can have a serious impact, it warned.

    A spokesman said there had been several instances of fake news and unsubstantiated claims being spread on social media and messaging services.

    From: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-63012155

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  8. I've never been any kind of fan of Piers Morgan, and I don't regularly watch any of his shows. But I watched the following clip the other evening, and I found myself enraged by his inability to have any kind of civil discussion with anyone who dares to have any different to opinion to him.


    I get that Morgan is an 'establishment tool', but if anyone thinks he is some kind of 'free speech champion' then they are sadly mistaken.


    David Kurten, leader of the Heritage Party and former UKIP London Assembly member, was on Morgan's TalkTV show to apparently 'discuss' the UK Government's commitment to blow millions of pounds on military aid to Ukraine.


    Morgan comes across as an enforcer of the Establishment Narrative, and when Mr Kurten tries to make any kind of counterpoint, Morgan just starts shouting and talking over him, like a spoilt bully having a tantrum. So much for "Piers Morgan Uncensored"


    Watch the clip here:


    Sorry but Piers Morgan always has been and always will be an obnoxious wanker.


    But this is nothing new, it has always been the case that whenever people appear on such media shows who don't "go with the flow", they just get talked over or interrupted, unable to put across any contrary opinion or explanation, without having the usual 'narrative' points thrown back at them. (I used to see this all the time whenever representatives from UKIP used to appear on shows such as BBC Question TIme and the like)


    I know some people here think that David Kurten is just another Zionist shill, and I don't know for sure myself, but fair play to him for remaining as calm and composed as he did here.


    As for Richard Tice, well he clearly comes across as another Establishment Shill, repeating the same 'current thing' soundbites.

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  9. 9 hours ago, Truthblast said:

    Conspiracy... Conspiracy...


    Does MUSK still CONTROL Paypal???


    9 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

    It has been happening for years. Telegraph are only piping up because anyone can criticize woke culture. I doubt they cared about other folks further to the Right of them that dared to commit bigger thought crimes.


    And no, Musk doesn't still control Paypal, and I don't think he ever did. He was just a co-founder to my knowledge.


    John Donahoe and Dan Schulman control it now. Paypal is also partnered with the ADL.


    Correct, while Elon Musk was a 'founder' of PayPal, I don't believe he's had any involvement with them for years now.


    Don't forget, for several years PayPal was 'owned' by eBay, until they offloaded it a few years ago.

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  10. On 9/18/2022 at 9:13 AM, Itsa said:

    Police appeal for calm after 'serious disorder' in Leicester as hundreds take to streets









    1 hour ago, Dustpanandbrush said:

    Unrest in Leicester, UK, not sure if it’s being downplayed or exaggerated by the media. 

    Protests starting in Iran and spreading to Turkey and other nearby states regarding the woman who died after being arrested for not wearing a head scarf. 


    1 hour ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

    According to our friendly BBC, it's all "misinformation" and nasty slurs.


    Of course it is.


    I believe the media are downplaying this. There have always been 'tensions' between the Hindu (Indian) and Muslim (Pakistani) 'communities'. And it would appear that things are starting to simmer to a head.


    You'd probably be surprised how 'racist' some Indian Hindus can be towards Pakistani Muslims, and vice-versa. (Makes us white folk look extremely tolerant!)


    But this goes against the 'narrative', after all it is supposed to be the case that all minorities are 'victims' being oppressed by a racist majority. While the truth is that much of the aggravation and tension is between the different minority groups themselves.

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  11. On 9/18/2022 at 11:44 PM, Mikhail Liebestein said:

    My DD is £380 a month, but it is quite a big house.


    I fully appreciate that different people have different situations, and some households use more energy than others.


    For context, I live by myself in a 1 bed 'apartment' in a low-rise block. I have gas-fired central heating and hot water using a 10 year old combi boiler, and the heating is controlled by a programmable room thermostat, so turns on and off only when needed. The only other gas appliance is a fairly modern cooker. All the electrical devices I have are fairly energy-efficient. So all in all I'm not a great consumer of energy as it is, I can't really 'cut back' much more!


    But on the other hand, I also earn a fairly modest salary while living relatively frugally; put it this way my energy bill could double and it would still be affordable to me.


    A refund of £66 pound a month would benefit you more than it does me. But then again, there are some people for whom that kind of amount would still be considered affordable. That's the point I'm trying to make.

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  12. 39 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

    And as I am on fixed rate tariff until September 2024, I am not concerned by energy price cap increases either!


    It would seem that those of us who had the foresight to sign up for long-term fixed-rate tariffs last August/September will prove to be the fortunate ones.


    I also don't expect the likes of EDF to suddenly 'collapse into administration'.




    Rather unsurprisingly, EDF are not offering any long-term fixed-rate tariffs now, and I expect it is the same for other energy suppliers.

    Just out of curiosity I had a look to see what their 'standard variable rate' tariff will be from 1st October.



    What sticks out the most for me is the increase in the daily standing charge for electricity. So even if you don't use any electricity at all, you still pay nearly 50p a day. Strangely the gas standing charge hasn't really increased that much.


    OK, so maybe I will enjoy this for the next two years, and it may well be the case that come September 2024, when my tariff expires, that I will get a bit of a shock.


    But who knows what will happen in the next two years - maybe I'll get another pay rise, maybe I'll win the lottery, maybe I won't even be living in this country any more. Or maybe this whole ridiculous situation will have been 'sorted', and energy prices will have reverted back to what they realistically should be.

  13. From an email I received from EDF Energy today:

    The UK Government’s Energy Bills Support Scheme starts in October. Every household in Great Britain with a domestic electricity supply will get a £400 discount to help with energy bills. This is a government discount which you don't pay back. You don't need to apply for the scheme.


    The £400 discount is in addition to the Government Energy Price Guarantee. If you’re on a variable tariff, we’ll write to you again before the end of September and explain what this means for you.


    How will I get the discount?

    ·     It will be paid in six instalments, starting from October 2022 and ending in March 2023

    ·     Payment will be made each month

    ·     The first two payments will be for £66, followed by four payments of £67

    How you'll receive the discount depends on how you pay for your energy

    Your payment method

    How you'll receive the discount

    Budget Direct Debit (Monthly)

    An automatic refund each month to the bank account your Direct Debit payments are taken from

    Cash/Cheque or Direct Debit Whole Amount

    An automatic credit to your energy account in the first week of each month

    Pay As You Go

    An automatic credit to your smart Pay As You Go meter within the first two weeks of each month


    A voucher from the Post Office® within the first two weeks of each month to redeem when you top-up


    So as things stand, as I pay by 'budget direct debit' monthly, I still pay my usual monthly amount, but then I get a 'refund' back into my bank account.

    Now this £400 amount is the same for EVERY household with an electricity supply, and so are the monthly refund amounts.

    I mentioned elsewhere that my direct debit increased from £57 to £74 earlier this year, because my energy usage had increased during the winter, I assumed this was because I had been using more gas than usual, during the relatively cool spring (my central heating was still coming on at the begining of June!).

    However while submitting meter readings today, it transpires that I must have incorrectly read the electricity meter back in June, as todays reading was lower than the last one by about 400 units! After contacting EDF, the previous bill has been cancelled and new one is to be generated with correct readings, so I'm hopeful that my direct debit should decrease back to £57.

    Which basically means that for the next six months, the refund I receive will be for more than I am paying,. Who said there was no such thing as 'free energy'? 😅

    And as I am on fixed rate tariff until September 2024, I am not concerned by energy price cap increases either!

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  14. 6 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

    My lady and I were talking about big events occurring earlier today She argued that if you could probably find a big event every day of the year if you look for it.

    She argued that it didn't have to be a big headlines event but could be a law passed underneath the radar that would have enormous repercussions. Regardless of which country the law was made in.

    I'm not saying she's right, but I agreed with her because I don't want to sleep with one eye open.😂


    I remember the massive fuss that was made about the 'millenium bug', and how planes would fall out of the sky, and nuclear reactors would go into meltdown, and computers would just stop working.


    Guess what, it never happened.


    I'm fascinated by numerology, but the danger is that some 'massive event' could potentially happen every nine days, if one was to over analyse any sequence of dates or numbers.


    Plus, does anyone actually really know what the date is? With tinkering and changing of calendars over the centuries, who knows what the actual date is?



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  15. On 9/14/2022 at 3:09 PM, sickofallthebollocks said:



    I'm sorry, but this is the kind of childish meme that is intended to make 'flat earthers' look 'silly', and adds nothing to the debate, other than to provoke 'reactions' .

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  16. 23 hours ago, jois said:

     The issues isn't the sea ice.its the ice on land that would increase sea levels.


    Greenland however will rise several metre's when the ice goes we can all go and live there

    Seriously if in the unlikely event that happened all though we would loose land. The habitable land in the world would increase as long as you don't mind living in Siberia


    Regarding the ice/snow on the land, this would only cause an issue if there was a sudden and immense increase in temperature that caused all this ice and snow to melt instantaneously and turn into water. Yes, instant flood, and sea levels rise as the formerly frozen water rushes down into the seas.


    But if you look at glaciers, consider them as 'frozen rivers'. And don't forget that water expands as it freezes, so the volume of water actually carried in these glaciers will be less than it looks.


    Also consider that as glaciers slowly melt, a lot of the meltwater will naturally just soak down into the ground too.


    Think about the number of times you may have had a huge amount of snowfall in your garden, yet your garden doesn't get flooded when the snow melts away.

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  17. On 9/15/2022 at 6:00 PM, sickofallthebollocks said:

    If this is possibly true, are we looking at something beyond imagination happening on 22nd, 23rd or 24th September?  I hope not, please forgive me for dooming, that is definately not my thing, I remember in October 2020 people here in the UK shitting themselves over an asteroid hitting and a load of people I knew literally took to the hills.  I thought, fuck it, if it's true then take me away, bollocks to all this.  Obviously it turned out not to be true.
    But this one?  I find it highly strange that this has been spoke about so long ago even by those that work to enslave us.  I hope I'm wrong.
    Either way - I'm getting my own backpack full of stuff ready just in case?  I knew I should have built an Ark?


    I have certainly seen references recently to something 'big' to occur between September 23rd and 25th, there's another thread here where it was claimed that a Carrington-style coronal mass ejection (CME) will strike the Earth on the 23rd, though I do find those sorts of claims quite doubtful.


    However I am simply taking the opinion that nothing of note will actually happen on these dates, and that there are 'certain people' trying to social engineer people into 'believing' that 'something bad will happen'.


    As David Icke himself says, if we do indeed manifest our own reality based on our own beliefs and perceptions, be mindful of those trying to alter your beliefs and perceptions.


    The old saying of course is "be careful what you wish for".

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  18. 8 hours ago, allymisfit said:

    I have an app called Nextdoor and it's a way of speaking to those who live around you. Good for reporting lost pets etc. I don't use Facebook, so it's quite handy for me. 


    NextDoor is a 'local social network'. I joined my local neighbourhood there a couple of years ago now, I quit after it became infiltrated with people pushing agenda/propaganda talking points. It's just as bad as Facebook in my opinion, 77th Brigade agents everywhere it seems!

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