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  1. 21 hours ago, ink said:

    Orwell's book 1984


    Below is an excerpt where O'Brien explains to Winston how Big Brother uses its power to control the human mind.


    O'Brien - "Power is power over human beings. Over the body and above all over the mind...Already our control over matter is absolute."

    Winston - "But how can you control matter? You don't even control the climate or the law of gravity. And there are diseases, pain, death."

    O'Brien - "We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. There is nothing we could not do. You must get rid of those 19th century ideas about the laws of nature. We make the laws of nature."

    Winston - "But you do not! You aren't even masters of this planet! ...The world itself is only a spec of dust. And man is tiny. Helpless. How long has he been in existence? For millions of years the earth was uninhabited."

    O'Brien - "Nonsense. The earth is as old as we are. No older. How could it be older? Nothing exists except through human consciousness."

    Winston - "But the rocks are full of bones of extinct animals. Mammoths and mastodons and enormous reptiles which lived long before man was ever heard of."

    O'Brien - "Have you ever seen those bones Winston? Of course not. 19th century biologists invented them. Before man, there was nothing. After man, if he could come to an end, there would be nothing. Outside man there is nothing"

    Winston - "But the whole universe is outside us. Look at the stars. Some of them are a million light years away. They're out of reach forever."

    O'Brien- "What are the stars? They are bits of a fire a few km away. We could reach them if we wanted to or we could block them out. The earth is the center of the universe. The sun and stars go around it. For certain purposes of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume the earth goes around the sun and the stars are millions upon millions of km's away. But what of it? Do you suppose it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you ever gotten double think?...The real power, the power that we have to fight for night and day is not power over things, but power over men...How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?"

    Winston - "By making him suffer."

    O'Brien - "Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering how can you be sure that he's obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of our own choosing. Do you begin to see then what kind of world we are creating?"


    20 hours ago, ink said:

    To add my above post quoting 1984 .... and why not as it is on topic considering the title of this thread .... the conversation continues thus ....



    It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined.

    A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but MORE merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain.

    The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement.

    Everything else we shall destroy-everything.

    Already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from before the Revolution.

    We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman.

    No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer.

    But in the future there will be no wives and no friends.

    Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm.

    Our neurologists are at work upon it now.

    There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party.

    There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother.

    There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy.

    There will be no art, no literature, no science.

    When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science.

    There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness.

    There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life.

    All competing pleasures will be destroyed.

    But always-do not forget this, Winston-always there will be the intoxication of power,constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler.


    Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.

    If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face for ever.’

    Wow !!
    l've watched the film a few times just to remind myself how utterly grim it is.
    There seems to be no hint or suggestion of this level of manipulation and control in the film.
    l know that films can never cover the depth of a book but this is a big omission.
    Looks like l've got to make a bit more room on my overstuffed book shelf..

  2. On 5/26/2020 at 1:58 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

    Never do aircraft deviate from level path. Where are the corrections for curvature. A plane maintaining level flight would soon leave the atmosphere.


    On 5/26/2020 at 11:51 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said:


    That airplanes maintain level flight unless taking off or landing is fact not fiction.


    On 5/27/2020 at 3:17 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

    I heard talk in this discussion about airliners correcting their level to accomodate a path over a curved surface. Airliners never correct for curvature. Nose level across the entire path.

    l skimmed past these 2 days ago but something has compelled me to come back and address this complete misunderstanding /misinformation. 

    l've flown on and off over the years in a wide variety of light aircraft. l almost went for and still might go through training for a UK PPL - private pilots licence. l already hold a basic glider pilots licence. l have hundreds of air hours.

    Pilots do not simply fly at a certain level by holding the controls still, nor does auto-pilot maintain level flight by holding the controls still.
    All flights and routes are planned and controlled by airspace controllers, who co-ordinate between various aircraft in any given vicinity. Pilots fly aircraft in specific directions at specific altitudes. Often changing both direction and altitude for any given airspace / route and environment. 

    Plan your flight and fly you plan is pumped into new pilots in training.

    Specific altitudes and changes are needed for each route and constant pilot input to the controls are needed to maintain any given level / height. Even when large passenger / cargo planes are on auto-pilot, the auto pilot system is constantly inputting adjustments to the controls to maintain a given altitude and direction.

    Do you drive ?
    When you are driving along a dead straight motorway / highway do you hold the steering wheel absolutely and completely still ?
    Or do you constantly correct the steering according to bumps and cambers in the road surface and even possibly cross winds ? 

    This very basic misunderstanding leads me to wonder just how far your misunderstandings go into this and other subjects.

  3. On 5/31/2020 at 5:24 AM, bflat said:

    If conditions are just right, you can see Polaris from just south of the equator.



    Please try and hit my points now and leave these red herrings behind.


    l'm working my way slowly through this huge thread.
    l've spent most of my life in the south of England.
    From the age of around 8 or 9 l was keen on the night sky and had my own telescope.
    l'm no expert , just interested.
    l spent nearly 2 years in Australia / NZ / Fiji over a decade ago, travelling extensively.
    The night sky (which was vastly more clearer that the UK / Europe) was completely alien to me.
    l recognised no stars / constellations at all..
    Can this be explained in your model of our physical plane ?

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  4. Even though Craig Murray is busy defending himself against the corrupt Scottish law system, he still has the time and energy to produce work for his superb blog. 


    Banana Republic Corruption 
    8 Jul, 2020

    The Ayanda Capital contract to supply £250 million of PPE to the NHS has not caused anything like the stir it should, because UK citizens appear to have come to accept that we live in a country with a Banana Republic system of capitalism. I suppose when you have a Prime Minister who handed out £60 million of public money for a Garden Bridge that there was no chance would ever be built, and who had no qualms about directing public funds to one of his many mistresses, the norm has changed.

    But the Ayanda Capital PPE deal represents all that is wrong with UK capitalism.

    Ayanda Capital self-describes as a “family office”. It essentially carries out investment and financial engineering, including tax avoidance, for the private wealth of the Horlick family. “Family office” has a very specific meaning in the City of London. The best simple definition I could find is here:

    Family offices are private wealth management advisory firms that serve ultra-high-net-worth (UHNW) investors. They are different from traditional wealth management shops in that they offer a total outsourced solution to managing the financial and investment side of an affluent individual or family.

    Sometimes family offices invest the wealth of more than one “very high net worth” individual or family, but they do not invest or raise funds from the wider public or from institutions.

    The only named “person with significant control” of Ayanda Capital is Timothy Piers Horlick, but he owns it through a Mauritius company. Mauritius is now a notorious tax haven; it offers zero tax and keeps company officers and owners secret.

    There is no reason to suppose that the activities of Ayanda Capital in private wealth management were illegal, or any more than part of the execrable trend of late stage capitalism towards super concentration of capital assets into private hands and away from the traditional more distributed forms of institutional and shareholder ownership. What Ayanda does is plain enough from its website:

    As you would expect from that profile, Ayanda Capital itself, rather than the wealth it invests, is little more than a shell company. It has two directors, Nathan Philip Engelbrecht and Timothy Piers Horlick. In fact, in December 2019, Ayanda Capital’s balance sheet shows that it was only kept from bankruptcy by “intangible assets” worth £2,890,000. That was an increase of almost exactly £2,000,000 in the value of those “intangible assets” in twelve months, allegedly due to “development” spending of that amount. What was being developed is entirely unclear. It is difficult to see how a private wealth investment company develops some form of intangible asset with a value of nearly £3 million. I find it hard to see all that as more than an accounting wheeze – and a rather hoary one at that.

    So far, so unremarkable. So the question is this. Why would the NHS turn to this ethically sordid but zeitgeist banal private wealth management office to provide a quarter of a billion pounds worth of PPE to the NHS? Wealth Manager magazine, who have done excellent journalism on this story, have the contract as supplying only face masks. They have confirmed the astonishing fact that there was no published tender for the quarter billion pound contract. Normal tendering processes were suspended in March through secondary legislation at Westminster for the Covid-19 Crisis.

    This is all simply astonishing.

    The normal public procurement tendering process has pre-qualification criteria which companies have to meet. These will normally include so many years of experience in the specific sector, employment of suitably qualified staff, possession of the required physical infrastructure and a measure of financial stability. This is perhaps obvious – otherwise you or I could simply stick in a bid to build the HS2 railway that is £10 billion cheaper than anybody else, win the contract then go and look for a builder.

    Ayanda Capital would fail every single test in normal procurement criteria to supply PPE to the NHS. I can see no evidence that anybody in the company had ever seen PPE except when visiting the dentist. They appear to have no medical expertise, no established medical procurement network, no quality control inspection ability, no overseas shipment agents, no warehousing or logistics facilities. We have of course seen this before from these crooked Tories with their “emergency procurement”, with the “ferry company” with no ferries. But this – a quarter of a billion pounds – is on a whole different level.

    I understand that normal procurement chains were struggling, but I would still trust any of the UK’s numerous long established and globally successful medical supply companies to go out and get the right kind of medical supplies, of the right quality, and arrange their supply and delivery, rather than throw an incredible sum of taxpayers’ cash at the first couple of City wide boys who said they can do it. From a company with a very dodgy balance sheet.

    What are Ayanda Capital in this transaction other than the classic Banana Republic “Mr 10%”? Precisely what kind of country has the UK become? No wonder it is falling apart. 

    To see the full article with photos / pictures;


  5. There is 1......yes, only 1 redeeming feature of the BBC.

    l don't watch TV......don't have a licence...l will never give them my money...and despise everything the BBC stands for (except one very little known thing)

    BBC 6 radio.
    l have it on most of the day.
    lt's digital only.
    lt's my guilty pleasure.
    lt's the most enjoyable and eclectic music station l have ever found.
    lt's almost been shut down / defunded a few times due to low listener numbers, but has somehow survived.
    (l still agree with defunding / shutting down the Beeb though.....l'll survive :classic_tongue: )

  6. On 6/23/2020 at 11:06 PM, chocomel said:


    Why bother. You either mainstream or alternative.

    I think she is dodgy....don't get good vibes from her.

    Not everything is black and white.
    l know you know that.
    She's dug deep and hard in the Maddy case....and high level pedophilia.
    She has almost finished her Con-19 documentary.
    l look forward to watching it.

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  7. On 6/24/2020 at 9:08 PM, motleyhoo said:


    "More modern and up to date" means to me dumbed down to look nice on mobile devices.  Just look at how much unused white space there is on every page and how much scrolling you have to do.  It's all about scrolling/swiping now, but they call this new functionality, because all of the millions of people now who cannot stand to be alone with themselves and their own thoughts, they have to be on their devices 24/7, addicted to digital distraction even when they're travelling about.  One of the healthiest things a person can do, and it's something we should be doing at least once per day, is sitting alone with our own thoughts and just zoning out or daydreaming for a while.  like sitting on a bus, watching the world go by in a semi-meditative state. Today, people cannot stand to do this for even a few seconds, and they have to be staring at their phones with more and more information overload of stuff that actually does not matter at all, and the price we pay for this insanity is cell towers and 5G everywhere we look and surrounding our neighbourhoods, zapping our brains even while we're asleep at night. Sorry for the rant, but this stuff really pisses me off.

    l agree with you about phone zombies.
    But.....if 'we here' can catch the attention of some of those young phone zombies by being easily accessible to them, then that should be a good thing.
    Fingers crossed and all..

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  8. Keir Stamer was head of prosecutions investigating Jimmy Saville while he was still alive.
    Starmer deemed that there was insufficient evidence to move forward  :classic_angry: 

    He has also refused to act on the recent Labour Party inquiry findings about right wing factions of the party helping to stop Corbyn becoming PM.

    The Dorset Eye had a great article recently explaining how Labour Members have submitted official complaints against Starmer and 5 of his cronies for - Antisemitism - LOL :classic_laugh: 


    The article laid out exactly how the complaint was submitted in great detail and invited other Labour members to do likewise. 
    l'm glad l'm a lazy ass and hadn't gotten around to cancelling my membership when Corbyn stepped down.
    lt enabled me to join in.
    (lt isn't the first time l've submitted official complaints to the party.) 


    Starmer isn't worthy of licking Corbyns sweaty feet in my opinion :classic_tongue: 

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  9. 3 hours ago, rideforever said:

    In the football world I see many pundits and commentators always calling for harshness and toughness ... any player who might have opinions should shut up and be disciplined by the club or authorities ... and any young player who always talks humbly (aka kneels a lot) is praised.

    Why do these pundits talk this way ?

    It because this ... is what they do in their own lives.

    The pundits live by kneeling to authorities, they sacrifice having any opinion whatsoever and whip themselves into submission.

    They are in otherwords soulless lifeless traitors of themselves.

    And so, have so destroyed their own lives ... they demand that others do the same.

    They hide the shame of having betrayed their souls ... by demanding others do the same.


    Society is full of people who are destroying themselves, and silencing themselves, trying to kill everything alive inside.

    So that they can conform to the insanity.

    And anyone or anything alive offends them and must be censored.


    We could give this condition a name - 'The Normie Virus'.

    The only cure is this forum :classic_wink: 

  10. 22 minutes ago, kj35 said:

    I think that's fantastic  x bodes well for the future 



    Also fun.. if you can't have fun what is the actual point of anything? :-)


    Coming here to this forum should be enjoyable in my opinion.
    There are many deep dark subjects among many that are looked into here.
    A full 360 degree of subjects and opinions including some real serious shit.
    Somehow there has to be an enjoyable forum community spirit that should draw people in, despite differing opinions.
    Not everyone will see  eye to eye on all things, but we need to find common ground and respect that creates a good 'vibe' here..
    That's my goal.
    And l know l'm not the only one who feels this  :classic_smile:

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  11. 4 minutes ago, kj35 said:

    @Basket Case you're back ! So good to see you (this is the first and  last time I'll be nice to you so don't get used to it ) ?

    l was frustrated and disappointed with how things turned out here and retired.
    l kept in touch with some members through other forums, email and phone.
    The new forum will be live fairly soon and l was asked to assist with its running and protection.
    Gareth made me a Mod :classic_blush: 
    l'm here to keep the peace and keep the alternative information flowing :classic_wink: 
    (and have fun as well :classic_tongue:

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  12. Rewinding quite a few years ago, this is the first person l noticed being hounded and censored.
    David Irving.
    All his research and writings were based on actual historical documents which he traveled extensively to examine, held by European governments after WW2.
    At first he was an award winning writer, then as he unearthed increasingly embarrassing information he became reviled.
    He's been imprisoned (maybe twice ?), had his life ruined by being dragged through the Courts by plaintiffs with huge resources, had a Hollywood (misinformation) film made about the court case etc, etc...
    ln his own words, " The path of Free Speech and Real History has often been a difficult one." 

    Most of his books are available for free in PDF format on his website.


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  13. A fictitious but very real scenario, entitled - l Don't Get lt ;
    Doctor explaining the pandemic to a six month coma patient who just woke up…
    Dr: “They shut down the world because of a worldwide pandemic.”

    Patient: “OMG! How many people are infected?”

    Dr : “About 11 Million.”

    Patient: “OMG! 11 million people died?”

    Dr: “No, only 500 thousand… Kind of.”

    Patient: “What do you mean ‘kind of’?”

    Dr: “Well… they keep halving the number of deaths due to double counting, inaccurate tests and mislabeled death certificates. Also, most of the people that die are elderly and dying of other things. There are also people who died because of incorrect ventilator use and other treatments because no-one really understands the virus.”

    Patient: “I don’t get it. So how many died from ONLY the virus… like literally dropped dead in the street?”

    Dr: “No-one. Only in hospitals and nursing homes”

    Patient: “I don’t get it.”

    Dr: “Neither do I, it’s a very confusing time.”

    Patient: “So they cured the other 11 million people then?”

    Dr: “No, most didn’t have any symptoms and in fact they didn’t even know they had it.”

    Patient: “I don’t get it.”

    Dr: “Neither do I.”

    Patient: “It doesn’t sound very deadly. If the other 11 million people didn’t have symptoms then how do they even know they had the virus?”

    Dr: “They were tested.”

    Patient: “But you just said that the tests are inaccurate.”

    Dr: “They are. No-one has isolated the virus so the tests don’t really test for that.”

    Patient: “I don’t get it.”

    Dr: “Neither do I.”

    Patient: “Ok. So when will this pandemic be over?”

    Dr: “When they develop a vaccine to stop the virus.”

    Patient: “The virus that 1 in 10,000 dies from.”

    Dr: “Exactly.”

    Patient: “I don’t get it.”

    Dr: “Neither do I.."
    Q : Are you awake yet ?

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