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  1. Yes. They didn't melt. Nowhere has it been claimed they melted. They bowed, steel loses significanty strength well with office fire temperatures.
  2. This is completely false. No steel is turned into liquid, the much used strawman.
  3. So your pro-game is that Gelatin sounds like gelignite?
  4. Typo that is kilograms. Whoops. The speed is from gravitational fall. Yoiu cannot have a claim that they fell close to freefall and not acknowledge what that entails after 4/5/6 seconds of fall.
  5. They were gelatin before 911 and ever since on a whole host of projects. What steps have you taken to corroborate any of that?
  6. Nice evasion. Mick West explains how the evidence for thermite is not conclusive at all , since dozens of other things produce the same result.
  7. We covered this 3 pages back - they are Austrian: https://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/ References Kahn, Meredith (2005-11-06). "Directions: Big, Dead, Rotting, Silly Rabbit". New York Times. Retrieved 2009-04-17. Castellini, Luisa (2005-09-02). "Ad Artesina arriva Pink Rabbit, il coniglio rosa più grande del mondo" (in Italian). il Giornale. Retrieved 2009-04-17. Davis, Ben. "Raging Within the Machine". artnet magazine. Retrieved 2009-04-17. Dewan, Shaila (August 18, 2001). "Balcony scene (or unseen) atop the world;episode at trade center assumes mythic qualities". The New York Times (Metro section). Rubinowitz, Tex (2001). Gelatin: The B-Thing. ISBN 978-3883755076. Amazon listing for The B-Thing Angelopoulou, Sofia Lekka (2018-06-19). "gelitin invites visitors to walk around giant turds in latest exhibition 'vorm - fellows - attitude'". Designboom. "Artists erect giant pink bunny on mountain". Ananova. Archived from the original on 2005-09-24. Pictures Archived 2007-09-29 at the Wayback Machine, gelitin.net.
  8. False. Why would they hold together with millions of tons hitting them at 100+mph?
  9. Yeah, well that is just evasion. You point to "rivers of molten metal" on the ground, days after the collapses. Now what exactly are you saying is the significance of this? What are you suggesting it proves? Steel cools quite quickly in air, thermite blows out really fast. To me, you are just pointing at it and saying look, it must be suspicious for reasons. Whatever, that's just arm waving rhetoric. I missed even scant attention to this post, why is that? https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/9992-911-was-there-a-plane/&do=findComment&comment=447751
  10. Here's what eyewitness firefighters say: New York firefighters recalled in a documentary film, "heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel" A NY firefighter described molten steel flowing at ground zero, and said it was like a "foundry" or like "lava" According to a member of New York Air National Guard's 109th Air Wing, who was at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6, "One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers' remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots" As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter Joe O'Toole saw a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at Ground Zero, which, he says, "was dripping from the molten steel" Here's what other eyewitnesses say: A public health advisor who arrived at Ground Zero on September 12, said that "feeling the heat" and "seeing the molten steel" there reminded him of a volcano An employee of New Jersey's Task Force One Urban Search and Rescue witnessed "Fires burn[ing and molten steel flow[ing] in the pile of ruins still settling beneath her feet" A reporter with rare access to the debris at ground zero "descended deep below street level to areas where underground fires still burned and steel flowed in molten streams" An Occupational Safety and Health Administration Officer at the Trade Center reported a fire truck 10 feet below the ground that was still burning two weeks after the Tower collapsed, "its metal so hot that it looked like a vat of molten steel" A witness said “In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel” A NY Department of Sanitation spokeswoman said "for about two and a half months after the attacks, in addition to its regular duties, NYDS played a major role in debris removal - everything from molten steel beams to human remains..." The fact that there was molten steel under ground zero for months after 9/11 is very odd, especially since firefighters sprayed millions of gallons of water on the fires and applied high-tech fire retardants. Big difference between locked in metals forming the conditions to mimic a foundry and the presence of steel in the actual erect buildings. What is your point? btw, loads of those links are broken.
  11. Slag. No, that wasn't an insult Impurities in Aluminum Alloy | Method of Controlling Molten Impurities (aluminiumceramicfiber.com)
  12. It's obscurred by vast amounts of dust. The metalwork is not turning to dust and there is an enormous amount of it.
  13. BT sport. Oh dear? Maybe you thought I was mindlessly watching someone filing past a coffin. Laters......this stuff is soooo 20 years ago.
  14. Address the content please. A better guess is you haven't.
  15. You failed to offer me the logical reason for why they brought down the WTC7? Fire was destroying the documents without anyone bothering to go do a search through rubble. That would be the least favourable way to dispose of incriminating evidence.
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