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Edgewood
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Just now, masonfreeparty2 said:
i think john white knew him quite well..another one i didnt trust if you can remember back in the old forum days..he used to get around alot lived in malvern
Yes, I remember John White... met him and a few of the others after one of the Icke talks in Brixton.... I actually met you too......obliquely at least.... I doubt you will remember me. Last I ever heard of White, apart of course from him running 9-11 Truth forum into the ground was that he tried to muscle in on the FMOTL stuff...... of course he never had anything of substance because there was nothing of substance to him... last thing I heard of him, and this was years ago, he was doing some climate change crap in the street with Greenpeace...... he probably sold himself to them as some kind of internet celebrity..... and then he mercifully vanished from my awareness.
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35 minutes ago, masonfreeparty2 said:
anyone remember when david shayler was jailed when with mi6 and when he was released started the 911 truth movement with annie machon then further down the line changed into the mad messiah figure...wonder if the contrived bullshit will happen with belfield..anyone who has worked for the bbc or mi6 i'd be very suspicious of...and lets face it nottingham is a cesspit of masonic shills..even the covid protests outside the council house building was crawling with the critters and 77th brigade undercover
I used to go around with Belinda Mckenzie's 9-11 people. I didn't do much, just attended a few of the meetings at that pub they always went to, we once attended a talk at Friends House Euston and Shayler was there. He always seems remote and distant to me, as if he was playing a part, a bit like an actor.
I also attended UFO meetings in North London and a few of the same people who went to 9-11 Truth also went to those.
Apparently the woman who organised the meetings claims she overheard Shayler speaking to another man who I myself suspected was some kind of MI5 operative.... and he asked Shayler is he was still in MI5 and Shayler replied that he was.
I don't know whether I believe it or not. I only have it on what this woman said and to be honest she was pretty batty.
Just thought I'd put it out there.
If Shayler was still an operative it would fit in with his nonsense about no-planes and dressing up as a woman.... and of course Belinda Mckenzie I never found trustworthy either... she too seemed to be someone playing a role like Shayler.
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9 minutes ago, Arnie said:
Yes. They didn't melt. Nowhere has it been claimed they melted. They bowed, steel loses significanty strength well with office fire temperatures.
I think you're done here.
Plenty of physical evidence and first hand testimonies about the abundance of molten steel during and after the collapse of the twin towers.
https://odysee.com/@cavernulous:f/gz1-ae911truth:7
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6 minutes ago, Arnie said:
This is completely false. No steel is turned into liquid, the much used strawman.
You clearly are not familiar with videos of the collapse of the twin towers then.
Why are you here when you have no idea what you're talking about?
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4 minutes ago, Arnie said:
So your pro-game is that Gelatin sounds like gelignite?
So about the melting steel support beams....wanna explain that away?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bdbLZUNJtwXC/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/L5kMPiLyljkt/
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4 hours ago, Arnie said:
It's obscurred by vast amounts of dust. The metalwork is not turning to dust and there is an enormous amount of it.
Agree, the metal work just melts into liquid....
Burning jet fuel or even structural collapse does not turn steel into molten metal.
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1 minute ago, Arnie said:
They were gelatin before 911 and ever since on a whole host of projects.
So what? Don't you think these people know anything about long-term planning?
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24 minutes ago, Arnie said:
False. Why would they hold together with millions of tons hitting them at 100+mph?
Millions of tons? 100 mph?
What are you talking about?
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16 minutes ago, Arnie said:
We covered this 3 pages back - they are Austrian:
https://www.gelitin.net/projects/b-thing/
References
- Kahn, Meredith (2005-11-06). "Directions: Big, Dead, Rotting, Silly Rabbit". New York Times. Retrieved 2009-04-17.
- Castellini, Luisa (2005-09-02). "Ad Artesina arriva Pink Rabbit, il coniglio rosa più grande del mondo" (in Italian). il Giornale. Retrieved 2009-04-17.
- Davis, Ben. "Raging Within the Machine". artnet magazine. Retrieved 2009-04-17.
- Dewan, Shaila (August 18, 2001). "Balcony scene (or unseen) atop the world;episode at trade center assumes mythic qualities". The New York Times (Metro section).
- Rubinowitz, Tex (2001). Gelatin: The B-Thing. ISBN 978-3883755076.
- Amazon listing for The B-Thing
- Angelopoulou, Sofia Lekka (2018-06-19). "gelitin invites visitors to walk around giant turds in latest exhibition 'vorm - fellows - attitude'". Designboom.
- "Artists erect giant pink bunny on mountain". Ananova. Archived from the original on 2005-09-24.
- Pictures Archived 2007-09-29 at the Wayback Machine, gelitin.net.
Be wary that history is continually being rewritten....Those sources are also long after the fact.... not hard to invent a cover story, especially for something of this magnitude.
Don't you also think that an art collective calling itself Gelatin......... as in gelignite....and blowing up the towers is just the kind of revelation of the method that the Illuminati are so well known for.
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Willie Rodriguez, one of the janitors who worked at the WTC and helped save lives that day, was the last person pulled from the rubble and was even recognized by the president for his actions. Aside from experiencing basement and sub-level explosions on 9/11 before the 1st plane hit, he also stated that he did see the art students in the WTC in an email exchange I had with him. So why is all this information about an innocent art stunt so important, aside from the fact that these individuals had WTC construction passes in 2000 before releasing their book in August of 2001? Because according to the DEA report on the investigation into a separate story of art students in the country penetrating military bases, government agencies and so fourth as a part of a spy ring, 2 names show up in the arrests of over 140 spies that sparked interest for me. Hanan Serfaty was arrested by DEA agents in connection to the Israeli spy ring. What makes him stand out, is that he was listed as being an art student who was apart of the World Views program, which was in the World Trade Center on floors 90 and 91 in the Lower Manhatten Cultural Council. Although he is not listed by Gelitin as a member of The B-Thing, the listing of the identities of the other 14 students who were on floor 91 at the time was never released to the public, neither was the total list of those involved in the stunt which numbers at a minimum of 6. It should be noted that 1 member of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council died on 9/11 while working in his studio on the 91st floor. His name appears on the list of those who were in the building when it came down. Hanan was an "art student" who was a former Israeli military intelligence officer who rented two Hollywood apartments close to the mail drop and apartment of Mohammed Atta and four other hijackers. Serfaty was moving large amounts of cash: he carried bank slips showing more than $100,000 deposited from December 2000 through the first quarter of 2001; other bank slips showed withdrawals for about $80,000 during the same period. Serfaty's apartments, serving as crash pads for at least two other "art students", were located at 4220 Sheridan Street and 701 South 21st Avenue. Lead hijacker Mohammed Atta's mail drop was at 3389 Sheridan Street--approximately 2,700 feet from Serfaty's Sheridan Street apartment. Both Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, the suicide pilot on United Airlines Flight 175, which smashed into World Trade Center 2, lived in a rented apartment at 1818 Jackson Street, some 1,800 feet from Serfaty's South 21st Avenue apartment. In fact, an improbable series of coincidences emerges from a close reading of the 2001 DEA memo, the 9/11 Commission's staff statements and final report, FBI and Justice Department watch lists, hijacker timelines compiled by major media and statements by local, state and federal law enforcement personnel. In at least six urban centers, suspected Israeli spies and 9/11 hijackers and/or al-Qaeda¬ connected suspects lived and operated near one another, in some cases less than half a mile apart, for various periods during 2001 in the run-up to the attacks. In addition to northern New Jersey and Hollywood, Florida, these centers included Arlington and Fredericksburg, Virginia; Atlanta; Oklahoma City; Los Angeles; and San Diego. Israeli "art students" also lived close to terror suspects in and around Dallas, Texas. A 25-year-old "art student" named Michael Calmanovic, arrested and questioned by Texas-based DEA officers in April 2001, maintained a mail drop at 3575 North Beltline Road, less than a thousand feet from the 4045 North Beltline Road apartment of Ahmed Khalefa, an FBI terror suspect. Dallas and its environs, especially the town of Richardson, Texas, throbbed with "art student" activity. Richardson is notable as the home of the Holy Land Foundation, an Islamic charity designated as a terrorist funder by the European Union and U.S. government in December 2001. Sources in 2002 told The Forward, in a report unrelated to the question of the "art students", that "Israeli intelligence played a key role in helping the Bush administration to crack down on Islamic charities suspected of funneling money to terrorist groups, most notably the Richardson, Texas-based Holy Land Foundation, last December [2001]". It's plausible that the intelligence prompting the shutdown of the Holy Land Foundation came from "art student" spies in the Richardson area. Thanks to CoreOfCorruption.com
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7 minutes ago, Jack said:
No, he didn't get sent to prison for what most people believe.
He constantly harrassed people.
he's setting everyone up for the online harms bill
https://web.archive.org/web/20200812010741/https://www.thatstageyblog.com/post/stop-alex-belfield
I don't know how you work that out....he's a victim of it..... I don't know why would applaud and crow over the fact that he has been locked up for five years for going over the very same talking points that people here believe.
The only difference is he has a higher profile than most of us here....... that's the only difference between him and us....and perhaps he wanted to use that higher profile to try to influence people like Jeremy Vine, and got rightfully frustrated when he continued being a system minion.....He should be applauded for his work.... I'm not a particular fan of his, I followed his videos for a while but got tired of him...... but I think most of his work was sound.
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53 minutes ago, webtrekker said:
We don't know the 'half' of it! ...
I wonder what those 'art students' were packing the building with....
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Lol...you're quoting the shills you system minion.
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40 minutes ago, Jack said:
There's no act from me.
Was hoping the DI forum would have shed a little more light.
To me, there's more to this than meets the eye.
The only contribution you have made to this thread is gleefully crowing over a man being sent to prison for saying the kind of things most people here believe.
If people like Bellfield can be sent to the nick them all of us here can also be banged up on similarly trumped up charges.
This level of Stalinism seems to make you happy.... Either you're just an honest sociopath who loves tyranny speaking his mind or you're something worse.
Someone trying to massage the forum to conform to 'the official doctrine' on the freedom of expression.
Which is a contradiction in terms.
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17 minutes ago, Jack said:
hahahahaha. Bet you're a big Anna Brees fan aswell
I don't know what game you think you're playing here.... I just hope no one is fooled by you.....
Your little act is completely obvious to me.
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Just now, Jack said:
lol, you didn't send him any money did you?
No. You sound like a spook.
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No Jack, I suspect a different diagnosis..... to be honest you seem like some kind of spook upholding the 'official line'.
That's only my impression....forgive me if I'm mistaken....if I'm not.....give me credit.
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49 minutes ago, Jack said:
those 5.5 years are consecutive, I think 5 charges against him. running after another. He'll be out in 2 years or so, and his deed has been done, and people paid him money to do so.
This wasn't just saying hurty words and emails but also actively trying to destroy some ones livelihood and income.
Alex is deep down is nasty bit of work and is mentally ill. The same type of people that the establishment use as stooges.
As the judge and witnesses said "he weaponised the internet" which is more telling
Well, by saying he's mentally ill, you've just publicly libeled him.
Maybe you should go to prison too.
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Jailing him for five and a half years is utterly absurd..... meanwhile the police, for so long, dared not prosecute those who groom, rape and even murder our children...... I think the tide might be turning on that one however but not before one of the actual victims of child rape was actually jailed herself for the crime of being waycist by saying that she was raped by Pakistanis....
For the record I think Bellfield's heart was in the right place.....he had something of the BBC establishment in him of course, and he openly mocked many conspiracy theories..... but the fact that he's been jailed for so long on trumped up charges shows how hard they come down on their own when they're no longer singing from their song sheet.But sending someone to prison for five years for trolling someone and sending rude emails, which is the same amount of time an adult will serve for sexually abusing a child, shows the criminal 'justice' system seems more interested in criminalising free speech more than REAL crimes.
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Black seed oil...or Nigella oil can almost completely relieve COPD.
It helped my dad..... he doesn't have the endless coughing fits since I discovered black seed oil when in North Africa where its benefits are well-known.
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On 7/22/2022 at 11:49 PM, barca said:
I have come to believe that Christianity is primarily a shared hallucination and social construct (like other religions) which operates via social strong-arming to silience dissent and appeals to humanity's natural tendency toward guilt, shame and fear. Those raised in the church have every reason to keep silent about any qualms or doubts they may have. If they raise these opinions, they risk social ostracism. Since humans are social creatures, it is very rare that a person will sacrifice his church and family relationships by questioning the faith.
But that was not the way original Christians behaved.......... what we call Christianity now is something which was created by the Pagan Roman Empire to avert their own demise at the hands of the very Christians they finally managed to subvert.
Read the words of Jesus himself and perhaps look into the very early 'church' and the way Christians behaved in the Roman Empire...... they gave to the poor and shared everything they had with each other...... they behaved exactly as Jesus says they should.....and the Pagan Cults of Rome complained that they could not compete with the pure doctrine of love and charity........ so of course, they plotted to take it all over and they succeeded.... but try to see beyond this and discern the truth of Christianity which has sadly been deliberately obfuscated all these years.
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Maybe he's referring to The Guardian newspaper and the Democrat party.
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On 7/7/2022 at 2:03 AM, Nefaria said:
They probably were dug up before the 1600s but people probably just thought they were animal bones and probably turned them into tools, jewellery or parts of their houses. They wouldn't of known the significance of what they had found.
It's because how science has developed we are able examine them, date them, and tell that they aren't from currently living creatures.
Again the absurdity of your type of reasoning shows itself similar to those that believe in a flat earth, it must be one big conspiracy started over the last few centuries involving millions of people all lying about the exact same thing. I think people like you use cognitive dissonance / ignorance with subjects so it doesn't contradict what you read and or your ancient belief system.
And the crux of it all is, these beliefs are butting up against modern day society: your belief system tells you things like only men and women should be together, and everything else is an abomination.
I find that the people who worship science are those who understand it least.
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The Ancient World of course had a long tradition of human God-Kings, so it is possible that at least one of the 'Yahwehs' mentioned in the Old Testament was a human 'God King'. There are several times that 'angels' in the Old Testament appear to be human agents for this 'God King'. Two instances in particular, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, where the men of Sodom try to have sex with the male angels and the three men/angels who visit Abraham.
All very peculiar:
Three Men Visit Abraham
18 The Lord appeared to Abraham near the large trees of Mamre. Abraham was sitting at the entrance to his tent. It was the hottest time of the day. Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. So he quickly left the entrance to his tent to greet them. He bowed low to the ground.
He said, “My lord, if you are pleased with me, don’t pass me by. Let me get you some water. Then all of you can wash your feet and rest under this tree. Let me get you something to eat to give you strength. Then you can go on your way. I want to do this for you now that you have come to me.”
“All right,” they answered. “Do as you say.”
So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. “Quick!” he said. “Get about 36 pounds of the finest flour. Prepare it and bake some bread.”
Then he ran over to the herd. He picked out a choice, tender calf. He gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. Then he brought some butter and milk and the calf that had been prepared. He served them to the three men. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.
“Where is your wife Sarah?” they asked him.
“Over there in the tent,” he said.
Then one of them said, “I will surely return to you about this time next year. Your wife Sarah will have a son.”
Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him. Abraham and Sarah were already very old. Sarah was too old to have a baby. So she laughed to herself. She thought, “I’m worn out, and my husband is old. Can I really know the joy of having a baby?”
Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Will I really have a baby, now that I am old?’ Is anything too hard for me? I will return to you at the appointed time next year. Sarah will have a son.”
Sarah was afraid. So she lied and said, “I didn’t laugh.”
But the Lord said, “Yes, you laughed.”
Alex Belfield......Another voice silenced or just a Grifter?
in Today's News
Posted · Edited by Edgewood
Yeah that was the one...... I'll PM you regarding my nickname..... The John Harris thing was really bloody weird.....
Here's something weird too.... My old landlady when I lived in London for a few years was apparently revealed as a prime mover and shaker in an international far-right organisation, involving people like 'Tommeh' and others.....it was in the Daily Mail (or Sunday Times...or both)....weird thing is that she told me she was a fan of John Harris and attended his talks...... John Harris was only known in our circles so how come someone involved in international fund-raising of far-right networks was into John Harris....
Was he mixed up with something he shouldn't really have got mixed up with?
My ex landlady wasn't especially shady.....just a rich posh woman with time on her hands I expect.... pretty funny seeing her name within that context...came as a complete surprise to me.....
I also know someone from up North who was briefly in the EDL.... he told me they were like a Freemasonic organisation and do weird initiations and stuff..... and he got out.
This is the only record I can now find.
http://uaf.org.uk/2011/12/edl-network-revealed/
My own feelings about the above networks is that they all smell of MI5 honey traps.......