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The Al Shamir family; Heinous .. Peaceful .. Our Hearts and Thoughts are with the Victims .. Prayers .. Truth .. Swift recovery .. Chief Rabbi; “Our Hearts are shattered .. Fear .. Shock .. No Surprise .. Grieving .. Dark time .. Attack against the values of our society. Lord Mann; People need to stop attacking others and people need to call others out (at work?) because it turns into violence as we saw yesterday. We need to work together and stop blaming each other. The level of violent extremist language in this county has grown, and that’s why the Jewish community is shocked but not surprised. Lord Mann is the Government’s advisor on Anti semitism and had a big meeting recently? .. Unrelenting Hatred,Root Causes, Reflection, and Social Media .. There are a lot of mentions of Prevent, which reminds me of Southport. Oh, Taylor Swift releases 12th studio album, that’s nice! That’s the only other ‘banner’ of news that gets a look in? (apart from the sad news of the death of Patricia Routeledge)

Thanks for all of the headlines @numnuts I just picked out three that stood out; The emphasis on ‘7’ minutes. The ‘I told you so’ Almost the ‘see you said we shouldn’t assume he was Islamist’ The I told you the sky was falling in? And the Telegraph with; 1) The Synagogue attack 2) William’s message of “change” and not being bound by history. 3 The tax message from Tesco 4) Trump’s gift of a sword to the King. You can hear 100 mph calls for peace and no hate, when mostly all of this was designed. Who was it that said the first victim of war is the truth? The family of the attacker “strongly condemn this heinous act” That word often reminds me of George Bush? I see “one of the victims died after being accidentally shot by the police” No sorry “shot by the authorised firearms officers” They must have had to think carefully how to word the statement that’s ‘breaking news’ right now Every news channel is 24/7 tisay

Flicking through the news channels I heard one day would it help to have military vehicles on the streets like in America? Well, it would suit some people to have body scanners and metal detectors and to make life dull repetitive, frightening worrying and boring. That’s one of the worst parts, that it’s all deliberate sabotage and that as a people were capable of so much more. In the background on BBC news at 00:32 they’re discussing cloud seeding companies Conspiracy Theorists blame floods on rainmakers … Crikey! That was an unexpected bonus. Good timing maybe. Oh I just heard them say climate change. Typical ! I’ll share it later on the chemtrails page! i think the section is called TechNow

I thought I’d quote your post here so that I can share with you a few quotes above from this morning’s news. I’ll clip out the guns and security guards part in a moment!

I noted earlier that within 3 ½ hours of the police arriving on the scene, there was a still image of the suspect, and also some video footage. On other occasions that takes some time to release? There was an appeal not to share mobile footage but to report it. There was also a mention that witnesses get confused with what they’ve seen, thinking they’ve seen something they haven’t … which sounded a bit suspicious.

Now. Personally knowing people from many communities, I often struggle to take a side as such … but politically or tactically or deviously; however I would call it; I just can hardly stand to see these huge almost life changing events, these junctions in our time line. The ones that will be used as a springboard to; get us all to kill each other, to want to kill each other, to pay more for security, to pay more for insurance, to be afraid, or sympathetic, or bitter, or vengeful, or … I don’t know anymore. I guess it just niggles me that someone can take ‘us’ and mould ‘us’ into something else. I hope we’re not fooled I don’t think we are, in most cases. We see the manipulation, we hear the same buzz words that are about to be repeated over and over. Someone sure knows how to stoke the fire.

I also ask why a particular response in some cases and not others and really feel that you say it well there. They talked about a 3 minute response and a 7 or 8 minute containment time being “about the fastest response you could hope for”

Two dead car ramming and stabbing attack Extra police in Synagogues across the country Witnesses say two men are led away in handcuffs Raphi Bloom co-chair North West Friends of Israel “Terrorist incident” To tell my children and grandchildren to stay away ”Shock and Horror” The synagogue operates with Two professional security guards who stand outside and two volunteer members with stab vests on to screen people sadly … 24/7 factvof life for a Jewish organisation synagogues and schools across the country in 2025 It’s shocking but not unexpected Every since Oct 7th there’s been a tsunami of Jew hatred whether online or physical attacks or Whether it’s Jewish patients being mistreated in the NHS by Palestinian staff it’s an old community, a vibrant community, including the Muslim community We’re not going anywhere but this has been ignored. This hatred has been allowed to go unchecked. We’re a democracy. We can have an opinion. We should listen to each other. We are being targeted by British citizens for an event that is happening 2000 miles away I wore a Star of David around my neck and I had an appointment in the NHS and I’m ashamed to say I took it off because I was scared I’d be mistreated A five year old had to undergo a drill and hide under a desk incase there was an attack What does that say that they are making jews fearful for their own safety in this country Underlying issues BBC; obviously those feelings of fear have been increasing My wife said she was scared to go to the synagogue We will stand up and remain part of our community and stand up for what we believe in We will not import a conflict onto our streets But enough is enough it’s now time for our political leadership to take a stand There is a Jewish doctor who is under investigation for calling the hospital a cesspit of supremacy… and she has not been fired … so what patient can be treated by her ? BBC; We must stress that we don’t know the motive for this attack

King Charles; “Thoughts and prayers are with those affected”

As this thread has been added to by a lot of members I’m just mentioning the Manchester Synagogue attack here even though it’s bound to have its own thread? Sorry this is very long with an idea of the initial unfolding media narrative… an hour and a half after the attack … Four injured - suspect shot by police Attack on Jewish holiday Yom Kippur 11:17 am; It is believed that the deceased is the offender - yes, that’s what we understand the offender has been shot and the incident has been contained and that has been echoed by Manchester police in the last 5 to 10 minutes “There has been an attack involving an offender driving a car, and a stabbing incident in North Manchester, with police it is believed, shooting the offender” In the last few minutes; a statement from Kier Starmer saying; “The fact that this has taken place on Yom Kippur the holiest day in the Jewish calendar makes it all the more horrific, my thoughts are with the loved ones of those affected and my thanks go to the emergency services and al the first responders. He was at a meeting of EU leaders in Denmark today he is going to fly home early to chair a COBRA meeting Anna Jameson is at the scene; This is an area with 5 synagogues so clearly a very strong Jewish community there? AJ; No sorry let me correct you there, a local man said in this area there are 35 Synagogues AJ; “Maybe that will give you the picture of how Big of a Jewish community it is here, but there are people of all faiths here, huge Muslim, large Ukrainian population, Greater Manchester is celebrated for its diversity, inevitability of huge multi cultural faiths ….” Also what’s clear Anna, this is right in the middle of a residential area? 11:22 Reaction from Kemi Badenich “It does look like an outrageous attack … on their holiest day … I know that many Jewish people feel that that are no longer safe. My heart goes out to the people who have been hurt and everyone who has been affected” The biggest priority in operation PLATO is to neutralise any threat now that could be this incident 3 miles North of Manchester, or any event … “… Clearly the gravity of the attack …” “…The PM was at a high-level meeting…” “… A full security response would be expected …” Kemi has said to the Jewish people all around the country you belong here. She has described rising antisemitism in this country and that it needs to be quelled completely. News just in; if I may, police have told the BBC that one of those injured is a security guard which would be typical in Synagogues, there is security there CST that’s the Community Security Trust, which is the Jewish Security Organisation which provides security be Jewish community, … have issued the following statement on X … CST is working with police and the local Jewish community following a serious incident at a Synagogue in north Manchester. This appears to be an appalling attack on the holiest day of the Jewish year. We thank the GM police officers and security who responded immediately to deal with the incident Sean, we’ve heard from Andy Burnham that the time line was quite short? Indeed, we’ve been talking about a 7 minute window it probably would extend to 8 minutes because a male member of the public had seen a vehicle drive towards a crowd and they say stab … use a stabbing implement … They called 999. That call was logged at 09:31. They’ve immediately thrown resources at this including authorised firearms officers, who are authorised to carry and where necessary use firearms to neutralise threats against themselves and others The police have very quickly arrived … That call at 09:31 was responded to within 3 minutes … Anyone who knows how computer aided despatch works will tell you that is about the fastest response you could hope for. Those firearms officers on scene … declared as a serious incident … well rehearsed contingency plans .. they work together to ensure that the scene is dealt with. 1 minute later police firearms officers have engaged the individual 7 minutes after the 999 call it then moves into the emergency rescue phase of the operation … Authorised firearms officers by way of training in trauma … Graham Stringer MP; “Not to let these evil people destroy a tolerant community” “They will try harder to have tolerance. You have to work at it” King Charles; “Deeply shocked and saddened” 12:45 Don’t go sharing video footage There’s no hatred on this street so for this to have happened here is clearly The community will come together again The message is to please stay away from the area as it is a live investigation The people were not aware of what they were seeing. There is a disbelief 12:55 A lot of hospitals have been put into lockdown Cafe owner; We are very sad. None of us is very safe at the moment. People are not coming in. It’s very quiet. Where we are is In the heart of that incident. 13:02 Still image released of suspect and video of police shouting a warning 13:05 They showed a warning and he started to get up again

@Nemuri Kyoshiro Thanks, I’ll have a look at that. I saw another mention of an attack on Christians on the news. The people are being so wound up. I also saw a hate poster pinned up on a notice board, and it makes me feel uncomfortable … the spread of the use of this word and this ‘system’, it’s getting so imbedded, so normalised. The conditioning. I hate it

I was going to add a ‘laugh’ but it’s not really funny, rough isn’t it. it’s been quite mild here surprisingly, and the blue sky was nice, briefly. I see the first named storm of the season is due. I don’t like this naming ‘scheme’. It’s Amy apparently.

South West of England End of Sept 2025 Huge action in the skies this week, first noticed on Monday; Nice blue sky in the morning, then lines in every direction and by the afternoon blanket cloud, and then a rather dramatic red / pink sunset. Tuesday and Wednesday (today) lots of cloud and trails, and also one small slither / straight line of rainbow in the cloud directly above.

BBC Quote Trump and Netanyahu agree new Gaza peace plan Trump: Hamas has ‘3 to 4 days’ to accept Gaza plan We need one signature; that signature will pay in hell if they don’t sign, I hope they sign. Sir Tony Blair would help oversee Gaza transition under US plan to end the war End quote

Andy Burnham - ( most likely controlled opposition ) “I feel we’re heading towards an election that is a choice of two world views; one view a progressive view; the values that have shaped the country that we’ve always known and always lived in, or something much darker and very divisive. That in many ways will be what is in-front of the country” ( How loaded is that )

“Reeves and Starmer spoke to young people at a career’s hub, as she prepares to unveil beefed up efforts to get young people into work … will guarantee that every young person on UC for 18 months without earning or learning will be offered a work placement. Reeves will frame this as part of government efforts to build a society based on contribution - a buzz word we can expect to hear more of … with November’s budget in mind. On the blackboard at the hub the Wi-Fi code is “Thrive 2020!”

Also here in Liverpool the Home Secretary will announce tougher conditions for those who want to stay permanently after Kier called Reform’s policy racist As a point of interest the subtitles say Reform’s migrant policy, which usually means the reporter has gone a word off script - sometimes that can be interesting. I only really notice cause sometimes I take a shot as a quick way to capture the words!

@Katsika Hopefully you’ve just been busy with the summer season

The Covid inquiry is back in the news today, talking about when they closed down the schools. The iplayer is showing the live broadcast. Absolutely sickening to think of those days, the manipulation, and the poor kids. But we already know that.

https://beyond-gm.org/about-beyond-gm/ BBC Breakfast News at 8.40 am There was a 3 minute feature showing vitamin D tomatoes, and mentioning sweeter lettuce and long lasting strawberries. The tomatoes are striped so consumers can recognise them!? Pat Thomas from Beyond GM was speaking briefly, about the GM0’s slipping into the food chain. Haven’t heard much about GMO’s in the media lately, perhaps to avoid the protests of the past?

Yeah, they’ve got no patience in their scheming? As is often the case when there’s no actual intention of going through with it, they go 100 mph? Announcing the introduction of ID and the opposition of ID, and Kier’s lowest popularity ratings, and so on, all in one day? Of course I don’t know for sure if they’re not doing it, ‘cause I thought similar about the pensioner’s winter fuel allowance, for instance… but something’s off? It’s just not natural for opposition to be promoted so quickly? Real opposition is hard won and pretty long winded? It doesn’t just fall in our laps through the media? Also the last few days have given the media something to talk about and a chance to churn out the usual catchphrases about boats and boats and small boats and racism and racism. God aren’t they sick of their own voices And no wonder some people are bored shitless with today’s deliberately boring ‘politics’, but that’s another story.

I really like that expression. I was brought up on it. It particularly reminds me of my parents and I often use it on myself, now I come to think about it! (I wonder if it’s unique to the British) Anyway; All the best, thanks for everything and for keeping going, particularly amongst all the noise.

I expect someone, somewhere did. Time will tell? Were you able to talk your friends out of getting the jab? It was a tough time, and harshly educational time and as we saw ‘our’ people were panicked and blinded by fear. I think it’s helpful that you’ve recorded the whitewashing, whoever it was that actually went on to edit it? It at least sort of reiterates the changes in the accepted language of the time? We witnessed that together eh, and I might add that Freaky Dragonfly has worked harder than almost anyone on sharing facts / information … like a dog with a bone perhaps … and won’t be directing that at you personally … but yes Wiki has a bit of a reputation for serving certain purposes I suppose, and I read it with that in mind. In a way, I sometimes found Wiki to be a helpful quick start, particularly before the AI function of searches? All the best I see you’ve just replied but I’d started writing this, just to add that

Saturday Morning BBC Reporter in Liverpool for the Labour conference In advance of the conference the PM had been speaking to The Guardian. He says there is an enemy … We cannot miss out on opportunity … to take the fight to Reform “It’s pretty amazing actually to be here having this conversation. It’s just over a year since he won the election with that landslide victory, we’re now talking about him being in real trouble and his big mission the next few days to try and turn things around.

The typically strange dialogue ‘they’ come out with … ? BBC Breakfast News on Saturday Starmer calls for unity Unite and Fight - Sir Kier Starmer’s message to his party as he travels to Liverpool for the Labour conference. It’s been a terrible few weeks for the Prime Minister, down in the polls, facing questions about his leadership. Today he will argue it is a fight for the soul of the nation going on.