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  1. Just now, Morpheus said:

    I'll read that, because it's not Wikipedia or Richard Dawkins. I'll check back with you. Got any fossils of half bird half mammal yet?

    Nor did mammals turn into birds or vice versa. Your struggling wiith the basic concept . Il see if I can find a lady bird book for you

  2. 6 minutes ago, zarkov said:

     

    Wouldnt the formation of planets & stars be classed as going from a state of disorder to a state of order!

    Much like the existence of bacteria.

    Seems counterintuitive in terms of entropy!

     

    Well they too are part of the entropy mechanism.  The law doesnt say that it must go from order to disorder directly it says a closed system so that's the whole universe in this case TENDS toward to entropy over time . So blips in the graph are fine we are still on our way to the heat death of the universe 

     

    Or" how are we going to get rid of all this hydrogen? I know we will set fire to it. That will work"

  3. 30 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

    I think the evolutionists need to start fronting the proof for intermediary species. Where's the half reptile half birds, half mammalian half fish etc?

    The process didnt go from fish directly to mammals so that's an unlikely find

     

    And your unlikely to ever find a 50/ 50 split between two species coz that's not generaly how it works and if there was such there would only be one generation of them out of a few hundred million years of generation. So a bit hard to track down

  4. 2 minutes ago, kj35 said:

    Err no. It's scientific classification. Now, I've a very dumpy legged dog to walk. I'll leave you to it.

    Well theirs is an an arbitrary decision as well and your doubting evolutionary science and then quoting it when it suits you 

  5. 31 minutes ago, ink said:

     

    Not actually unbelievable but I would like your 'proof' of ....

     

     

    ta :)

    I cant prove 4 billion years. But that just about the time the late heavy bombardment stopped and life got going.

    I didnt offer proof by the way. I offered guidance to help you out of the maze you've wander into

  6. Just now, kj35 said:

    No. It just has shorter legs. There is plenty of fossil evidence for changes within a species and absolutely zero fossil evidence of species evolving into new species.  The classic archeoptryx example was roundly lauded as a lizard bird transitional fossil. Until they realised it wasn't. But rarely are theory of evolution documents corrected until you do a bit of digging. Even the natural history museum still has 'Lucy' in it's human evolution change pictorial in the main hall.

    Well thats an arbitrary decision on what constitutes a different species.  Made entirely by you

     

    Snakes it seem used to have legs. The legs got shorter and shorter over time. The remnants are still there.

     

    It's difficult to say exactly at what point it became a snake rather than a quadrupled.

     

    For a while it had 4 legs it didnt use

     

    So it did snake things but with useless legs 

     

    That's a different species than either a snake or what ever it used to be. 

     

    This specization thing is tricky 

  7. 2 minutes ago, kj35 said:

    This isnt quite correct. Obviously petrol tanks aren't a feature of fully electric cars. Petrol will burn out and exhaust themselves whereas li ion fires can restart days or weeks after they were thought to have been extinguished.Thermal runaway in a lithium ion battery is a chemical exothermic fire the cause of which they 'theorise' is worsened by repetitive charging. But scientists still don't really know what triggers the reaction to commence. Short circuiting may be a feature but is not thought to be the main trigger.

     

    Most Teslas for example are not yet old enough for the suspected deterioration in the cells that causes the exothermic reaction to begin. Chopping batteries in back street garages isnt yet a feature of most electric cars but will worsen as they become more prevalent. E scooters,  laptops etc all use li ion in various sizes. Passenger planes will only allow the very smallest batteries in the cargo hold as fires have started which clearly has potentially devastating consequences for the plane.

     

    As for your final point

     

    'That any Tesla goes up, means that their quality control is suspect.  There is no good reason why they cant build batteries that never do that other than cost' 

     

    As already well documented the cause of these battery fires is still very unclear and therefore until the science behind the inception hazard is understood no amount of throwing cash at a battery build will solve the current situation.

    The cause of the battery fires is very clear. It's the degradation of the insulation over time. Why the insulation degrades may be less clear or poor design of insulation/ quality control in assembly

     

    I've had a considerable number of lithium batteries over the last 25 years and precisely non of them have set fire nor have any of the batteries of anyone I know.

     

    It's a theoretic possibility not a likely out come at least not from branded batteries ebay specials may carry a greater risk 

     

    I'm not convinced that 40 gallons of petrol going up is less of a problem to life limb and property than a Tesla battery to be honest

     

    How likely each is to happen is a bit hard to calculate . You could always cover it with fire blankets before bed

  8. 42 minutes ago, peter said:

    First off I'm not trying to debunk anything with regards to this topic, I have read some papers on the subject but that was quite a while ago and the conclusion I came to was in my first post

     

    I do know the difference

     

    Well you are obviously more up to date with this topic than me, so what would you say is the most prominent new evidence in your opinion to support the theory of evolution its entirety, because I'm interested 

    I spent all that ink and you are still calling it the theory of evolution. And if you do indeed know what a theory is you know that is its self pretty concrete 

     

    As I said above. It's not on thing that's conclusive . ONE thing could never be conclusive. It's the sheer volume of evidence over a 150 years thats conclusive.

     

    And I've nether the ability or the time to cycle through that for you. Just to save you the bother of putting you tube on.

     

    why not just tell me what you find unbelievable and il do my best to guide you.

     

    The process of continued diversification  through adaptation over 4 billion years is straight forward enough for a child to grasp. So it cant be that.

  9. 2 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

    all data put out by governments is bull. It is all skewed to show what they want to show. Stats are always manipulative and spun for their own agenda. There were 8 jabs on the market, so the stats have to be multiplied. Plus, it was estimated that the stats were reporting barely 10% of the real figures for injury and deaths. Since when did maiming and killing people become an accepted 'side effect?' Its an effect not a side effect, or in medical blarney 'a contraindication'- which basically means its risky to take it. The results have been so devastating they stopped putting the leaflets inside the vax boxes of the side effects. Oh, and lets not forget, the vax companies are immune from prosecution. Nothing to see here. Perfectly safe. 😲

     

    Not necessarily disagreeing with your sentiments. Just making a few points for clarification. 

     

    The Pfizer data was released very reluctantly after a court case. Its wasnt voluntarily put into the public domain. It's fairly damming. But hasnt been picked up by the MSM. Surprisingly 

     

    Most medicines and nearly all vacines carry a risk of fairly damaging side effects. The govenment takes a view if the benifit to society outway the risk to the individual based on just how many what they are trying cure will injured compared to the damage the " medicine" will cause and of course cost. Cost of the " medicine" cost of the damage done by the illness/ cost of looking after/ compensating the injured from the " medicine

     

    You can take a view on the morals of that with vaccinations in general.

     

    But in this case the cost to society of the illness was increased many fold by them putting in control measures that wernt necersary in the first place 

     

    Thus this decision of if the vacine was good for society as a whole was screwed by the fact the lock down was costing 100s of billions and not on a proper risk benifit analysis. 

     

    In short they would have approved nearly anything at almost any cost to the individual if it meant they could end the lock down and in particular the furlough scheme 

     

    It's not at all surprising therefore that there are casualties.  Its surprising there arnt more. Which there maybe iif they ever actually tell us the truth

  10. 26 minutes ago, zarkov said:

     

    It might be sensible to arrive at a definition for the concept of "God" and the scope of that definition.

    I mention this because it appears to be the contentious polemic opposing "evolution" and seems sensible to address the balance.

     

    The egyptian word for god was neter, and is purported as the etymological origin of the the word nature by some.

     

    as per @ink post on the 1st page.  If Entropy - is the general trend of the universe toward disorder then how would life "evolve" when this ideation defies a purported physical law?

     

    Mutation is degradation of function from what I can tell so why is this included in explanations for "evolution"?

     

     

    What proportion [%] of matter ends up as life?

     

     

     

    I'm glad you asked that, I knew eventually the book I read on how life fits in with entropy would come in handy. It's been a long time 

     

    In short with out reproducing the book

     

    Life exists in an energy gradient' were energy is transforming from one form into another.  That's the fairly organised photons from the sun changing to a less organised heat glow from the planet . 5hats entropy in action

     

    Life doesnt slow that process in fact it speeds it up by converting it quicker than just the planet could on its own, admittedly by a marginal amount. But the fact we are warming the planet up by our byproducts and action is all helping the cause

     

    We are infact entropy machines.  If the defining purpose of the universe is to reach a state of equilibrium.  Then life becomes inevitable.

    our organisation is only very temporary.  Before we too convert in to a less organised form of energy 

  11. On 4/6/2022 at 10:05 AM, eddy64 said:

    well a normal car fire is easy to put out, a lithium battery fire on the other hand is a nightmare afaik.

    The fire and how likely that is, is only part of the equation

     

    The main issue is the sudden and catastrophic release of stored energy and how much energy is stored to be suddenly released

     

    Or in short the battery shorting or the petrol tank going up. Nether are particularly easy to put out. Batteries tend to burn slightly slower in the release and explode less. Either means your looking for a new car , and possibly a garage , house 

     

    Petrol has a 100 times greater energy density than lithium per kg.  But then the batteries on electric cars weigh 500 kg so there is a considerable amount of stored energy in a fully charged battery.  Considerably more than a tank with a tenners worth in it

     

    Petrol tanks dont catch fire on their own it needs something else to go badly wrong or arson . batteries it seems do and especially when being charged.

     

    The standard advice from fire brigades is not to leave any battery charging unsupervised, particularly over night.

     

    Which practicably no one. Including I suspect member of the fire brigade takes any notice of. And a fair few do catch fire. But it's a tiny % of all rechargeable batteries in the country and seems from news reports to almost always be the batteries on e scooters and ebikes that go up. which is probebly a quality control issue at the back street manufacture in Shanghai that made it

     

    That any Tesla goes up, means that their quality control is suspect.  There is no good reason why they cant build batteries that never do that other than cost

  12. 3 minutes ago, peter said:

    Can you let me know what evidence has grown exponentially

    All the evidence has grown exponentially. 

     

    150 years ago there was very little evidence in total now there is so much its incontrovertible 

     

    Along that journey it stopped being a theory and just became.

     

    There are any number of books and videos where experts, (Which I'm not, just a guy with an intrest in understanding things,)   will take you through what we know, what we think we know, what's still a theory , whats a hypothesis and what's wild conjecture. 

     

    I'm not in a postion a few 100 character at a time to take you on that journey. I can only guide you. 

     

    Its takes a certain intellectual honesty from yourself, if you have doubts and you clearly do. To actually research the topic and if you still disagree, to present an alternatively hypothesis which explains all the evidence.

     

    Just arguing from a position of personal incredulity isnt really an honest attempt to debunk evolution 

  13. 39 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

    https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202204150011

     

    Taiwan - Woman to get millions in compensation for vaccine-induced blood clots

    There little doubt the vacine has caused both deaths and significant injury. No one outside of the propaganda machine is disputing this.  And even they are just saying its " safe" rather than categorically denying serious health effects.

     

    Its unclear if all the vacines carry the same risk ' how much is due to bad injection technque or an inherent issue with the vacine and particularly the crucial information to make an informed choice. Just what % of the vacinated experience significant side effects. 

     

    Pfizer have released its data showing the vacine lead to 1400 deaths in the first 3 months and I think 4000 serious injuries. 

     

     But With out the info to know what % it is of the vacinated population its rather meaningless data

  14. 1 hour ago, Morpheus said:

    We don't, this is why it's called the THEORY of evolution. 🤭

    It's not strictly speaking commonly called the THEORYof evolution. Apart from people who are throwing doubt on it, who also seem to completly miss the scientific definition of a theory.  Ie it's some what more concrete than a wild guess. 

     

    It was called the theory of evolution 150 years ago. Now it's just called Evolution( at least by people who understand it ). In the intervening period the body of evidence to support has grown exponentially to the point that there is absolutely no reasonable doubt that evolution happens and the mechanisms that drive it. Some of the fine details are still lacking.

     

    But that's just a matter of time. Its finding the dam fossils that slows it down. For some reason they are all covered with earth. Evolution research its self is in constant transition, ie its evolving. 

     

     

  15. On 4/12/2022 at 6:44 PM, kj35 said:

    The link you provide to Berkeley is STILL talking about variations within a bird species.

     

    We have no problem finding intact fossils millions of years old. Why is there no fossil proof of species evolving into new species? Even followers of Darwin have had to change from slow changes should be evident in the fossil record to now theorising that dramatic sudden changes are now the fashionable groupthink for evolution. And yet, still no proof.  Why is that? 

    Every fossil we find is a transitional species. They were all transitioning from something else into some thing else

     

    It's a really arbitrary man made classification of how much it has to change before you call it a new species.  Ie if an animal in is the process of loosing its legs. An example with shorter legs is a transition .  is it a new species? Depends how short they are I suppose 

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  16. 8 hours ago, jedidiah said:

     

     

    I have to disagree.

     

    The bulk of the masses were scared shitless, and believed their lord and masters, and are still.

    You may be right   its impossible to quantify.  There were lots of no mask people in all the places were enforcement wasnt likely. It's impossible to know how representative this was. But just going about my business it did seem about half of them.

     

    Never saw a single mask worn in farmfoods. Not one

  17. Just now, DarianF said:

     

    Dawkins doesn't say it's impossible that god, etc, exists, he simply points out there is no good evidence for believing so, when there are plenty of perfectly reasonable, naturalistic and evidence based explanations for things.

     

    Like you, I keep an open mind on the supernatural, but I always wonder, if you ended up being able to prove something that was previously believed to be supernatural, wouldn't it then become just plain old natural? For instance, at the moment, vampires are 'supernatural' beings, because they've never been proven to exist. However, let's just say vampires suddenly were captured and studied by scientists, and the results published in the peer reviewed literature, they would become an acknowledged organism. Hence, they would no longer be supernatural beings, they would just be recently discovered natural beings.

    Yes. Thats exactly right. They would still be pretty super though 

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  18. On 4/13/2022 at 12:11 PM, HAARPING_On said:

    So... they've received the fines but will they pay?

    As I've said elsewhere Boris has already said, "No Laws were broken," and technically he is correct with that statement...

     

    All they have to do is get a decent lawyer on their case, overturn the fines, keep it under wraps...

    OR

    As stated above a paltry £95.00 is hardly going to affect their lifestyles so simply pay up and brush it under the carpet, "there's a war on you know..."

     

    I guess we'll see how this plays out.

    I suggest that quite possibly for the first time in his life boris was telling the truth . The laws were so badly written he probably wasnt breaking them.  

     

    But it's gone to far for that. If he contested it it would only bring more criticism when he won as being favourable treatment. If he got no fine at all even more criticism of the police and him

     

    I'm of the view that they have considered the best way out is a fine and prompt payment and move on quickly. I'm sure he asked for a ticket even if the police had no intent of issuing one.

     

    The only fly in the ointments is the local elections. I'm not sure that's the end of him if those go pear shaped.  

     

    He has the durability of a cock roach

     

     

  19. Just now, Morpheus said:

    Right, it was fun whilst it lasted but I'm tired of the sly insults, ad hominems and preconceived assumptions about what I believe, especially since I've given very little indication of what o believe. 

     

     

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Get Tae fuck. 

    Well you clearly didnt know there were stoic historian writing books and getting a % of the retail price. That was clear when you asked who funded them. 

     

    It wasnt a sly insult so much as open mouthed astonishing you didnt know how book sales work. Well at least your better informed on book buying. 

  20. 18 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

    Well considering you watched a fraction of what's presented, I think that's a bit rich to say that. 

     

    Also, who are these stoic historians with with such reputations that you hold so highly?

     

    As for access to this information, is that not for a small circle? Again, is this not surpression of information of we do not have equal access to this information? Do we therefore not put blind faith that what we are being told is factual and accurate? Also, these people don't get this stuff without it being funded, so what's their agenda? 

     

    In addition, how many hypotheses have been re-written and revised constantly? Too many to mention? I'd say so, I mean they're revising history before our eyes. Like 1984 style changing the meaning of words like herd immunity. 

     

    What's our Common bond truly? 

    Well yes it's for a small circle of people who can use a referance library.  That is it seems an ever diminishing number or at least walk into a book shop and order it 

     

    The internet age has conditioned us to a) want every thing for nothing and b) not actualy stand up.

     

    There are 1000s earnestly researching every time in history and every major and some times really humdrum events.

     

    The fact you dont realise these even exist really paints a picture.

     

    Who pays them. Well you do. That's how book sales used to work before wikipedia

     

    It's not blind faith. You pick a thing your intested in. Look for a book that actually names its source documents and then go on a journey of discovery as he or she guide you through the labyrinth.  You dont have to believe them or take on their version of events if you dont want to. But you can at least say this is nonsence and actualy have a cogent reason why you think it is.

     

    History is really really fascinating once you get away from school stuff

     

    The time line from circa 1000 ad to present is pretty accurate. There are thousands of contempary documents for most events, the nearer you get to the present the more documents there are.  Its  really what really happened and why that's the issue. The time line before that is very iffy. It still probably happened.  Just no ones sure quite when or why 

  21. 14 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

    Ah, so is it denying history or buying a completely false history? 

     

    Also, I again refer to my earlier post about the history books being tampered with, because as the saying goes, the victor writes the history books. So we cannot for any degree of certainty trust their timelines or their hypotheses. Sorry for the skepticism, it's just the way I'm built. 

    Yes and all that's true to some extent.. but people are researching history 100s of years later and correcting the rubbish that was writen at the time.

     

    If your of a " stolen history " every thing is a complete fabrication" state of mind. Except a mud flood obviously that happened. Then your lost. Really lost . Rather than I suspect this is bollux. Il find out 

     

     

    If you want to spend the time and ussually considerable sums of money to read work by a number of genuine historians who have done ussually years of research. Who are clearly not being censored. then you get a volume of information you can interrogate yourself even if you disagree with them.  You always end up better informed.

     

    It's a better way than just dismissing it all and claiming mud floods did it. Just some what more time consuming. Which I suspect is part of the problem 

     

    I've agreed with you most school history.  Most popular history is at best wildly inaccurate.  That isnt however all the history books in the world

     

    The truth is out there

  22. 12 minutes ago, ink said:

    20 years ago .... people didn't want to know .... Tell them something and all I got was "If that is true, then I don't want to know!"

     

    Now is just pathetic .... Take Shanghai (if it is correct as it would seem that much of 'alternative' information is also 'controlled) you have 20 million people locked down and many starving .... but they do nothing!

    20 million .... no joining together .... no action against the 'state' .... just starve.

     

    The biker concept of "Most people die at 25 but are not buried until 75" .... is correct.

     

    Bread and circus is all they want .... "An unconsidered life is but a nothing!"

     

    Young people don't even know if they are a man or woman .... and couldn't define either!

     

    I watched an old man (and from my pov .... I mean old) walk along the pavement on Monday. He was wearing a mask. All I could think was 'How sad to end your life in such fear!'

     

    But on Wednesday I was out amongst quite a few people and I suddenly stopped dead because I noticed something about myself!

    I looked around again .... about 20% of the people had masks on!

    But that wasn't the problem .... I hadn't seen them .... I mean that I didn't recognise them as 'people'!

    I was literally .... well they could have been just part of the infrastructure around me.

    They are already dead.

    Blimey you make me sound cheerful and I'm known for killing parties.

     

    Yes starving people tend to just starve they dont have the energy to do much else. Hungry people on the other hand get a bit unruly.  You just have to kid them that help is on the way till they are to far gone to care

     

    I've taken a vox pop during lock down. It was a bit of a self selecting population as the people who belived that the lock down was necersary and or working were not crammed maskless n a pub smoking shelter or sitting around passing a joint around in the church yard and to a man. They said this is bollocks.  Nobody actualy did anything about it.

     

    Revolutions only happen when the intellectuals get involved to organise it and they were all happy on furlough 

  23. 17 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

    Why do you think that is exactly?

    Well I thought back on topic for one and secondly if they understood even the last 100 years of history it may occur to them they dont live in a benign caring country that has the best interests of its population at heart at least no one has lived in that country up to now. there is a fair chance boris isnt any different 

     

    Or do you mean why do I think they dpnt understand history! For all the reasons I outlined above 

     

    That's the problem with denying history. You cant learn from it if you dont think it even happened 

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