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  1. 6 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said:



    Sigh. It is quite painful to debate something with somebody who blunders into a subject I studied 15 years ago. Somebody who wears his biased bullshit conspiracy blinkers that prevent him from seeing anything else.


    After the war. Lots of rocket scientists. Some went to Russia. Some went to the USA. They were labelled Nazis because the vast majority worked for the party. Sadly, as in any war .....not by choice. 


    Now a few were subsequently found to be guilty of stuff. 99% were not. Very few made it into managerial roles. Wernher von Braun was the biggest and he was sent out to pasture soon after Apollo.


    But conspiracy blinkers sees evil nazis and infesting NASA for all time.


    Do you have anything of substance on this or can it be taken as read that you will just toddle off without saying anything?

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  2. @oddsnsodsffs stop with the insults. Of course you won't get pulled up for it because you are on team local. 


    Now. I will spend a bit if time re-examining this and seeing what's new. Give me some time. It's not a 5 minute thing. As I said...all my reading last year was done on the fly and I didn't take notes.


    Quite why MY assessment is important to you is baffling. I've seen and read quite substantial debunks on many of the Sub claims on this subject. I have not seen you disagree with a single one of them.

  3. Just now, skitzorat said:





    based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

    "his views are highly subjective"


    No, my links and points aren't.



    You ignore the FOI requests and the Chinese CDC.

    Given your logic they made a new test then when the samples suddenly appeared? haha 



    I'm away from my computer. I'll get back to you tomorrow....if I can be arsed. It isn't a five minute debunk. It takes a lot of trawling to answer these and I didn't take notes when I went through a lot of this for my own personal checks.


    I never had any intention of walking back into that covid thread after the mass trolling last time. 

  4. 1 minute ago, skitzorat said:

    Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line


    Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro. Huh7 cells were exposed to BNT162b2, and quantitative PCR was performed on RNA extracted from the cells. We detected high levels of BNT162b2 in Huh7 cells and changes in gene expression of long interspersed nuclear element-1 (LINE-1), which is an endogenous reverse transcriptase.

    FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (177 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, 



    China's Top 'CDC' Epidemiologist Confirms That China Has Never Isolated COVID-19 Virus




    FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples

    From the document:

    Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/µL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen.

    Another revelation in the document is the admission by the FDA that test results 



    Now that's out of the way, three questions.


    1. Do you know who funds your precious factcheckers and the entities behind "mediabias.com"?

    2. What's your educated reason as to why this is happening?


    790 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 510 Dead



    3. Why are you on a conspiracy forum and linking to a site called 'international sceptics'?


    I'm just not getting drawn into this. Debunks on debunker sites...go look. It's just too much subjective bollocks.


    Just one. The cdc didn't have any samples of the original strain. Then all of a sudden the shtick is that it isn't possible. Nonsense.

  5. 35 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

    @Mr. Nice


    What are your views on things that have happened around Covid? I don't get into the science as it's not my domain and I let others look into that, but do you agree that the anti-Covid measures have been oppressive? Are you not concerned that they're using Covid to herd us into a surveillance state, like China for example?


    Oh, absolutely. I hate governments. Never voted, never will.  The pandemic restrictions did seem harsh and I absolutely hated the track and trace down the pub!


    But I don't see a workable alternative. Corporate dominance is an out of control monster. No amount of huffing and puffing is going to affect it. It's like a flea farting near a dinosaur.

  6. 4 minutes ago, MarcusOmouse said:

    Lets get into Science, which is more of my speciality.

    How about the preposterous idea that there is no such thing as free energy according to the scientifically established "laws" of  thermodynamics?

    If you agree with this horseshit, then can you expand?


    Cool, this isn't off topic at all. You must understand what the burden of proof is dude. You claim established science is horseshit...off you go....I'll let you know if I agree with you.

  7. 2 minutes ago, MarcusOmouse said:


    If only you could see some of the shameful horseshit I now know to be such when I wrote my own degree papers, I have little doubt (personally ) that the above statement is something of an inversion, to put it mildly.

    For writing such shameful horseshit  I passed with honors of course.

    Did you know that you will get a fail on your SAT marks in the US if you suggest that anyone but Lee Harvey Oswald was responsible for the death of JKF?

    Or did he ? LOL


    I suspect that history is something that falls into the category that you speak of. Personally, the methodology for research is something that is most certainly not indoctrination.

  8. 17 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    No it teaches you to be a closed minded 🍆 up your own arse.

    Why so many so called educated bought into the covid bullshit.

    You are easily programmed.


    You have absolutely no idea about higher education. The research part is called research for a reason. There aren't extra points for copying shit already done! Programmed? You mean like the facebook and twitter  trolls who mindlessly parrot conspiracy themes without a thought of their own.


    Educated people didn't buy into anything - they used their research skills to determine what stacked up and what didn't - guess what. 5g causing covid-19 didn't. mRNA being this bullshit gene altering mechanism didn't stack up. Viruses don't exist...ditto. Non isolated sars2 - ditto......


    17 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Your circular trolly bullshit is boring also..I know you live for it.


    You started this thread, god knows why! One of the great things about flat earth/apollo or any number of the lower hanging fruit teaches examples of logic, critical thinking skills and a whole host of mechanisms to learn how to assess data. The absence of anyone picking up these skills is very telling. It should tell you something when you find you are talking to a brick wall discussing flat earth with a flat earther. Only with you.....

  9. Just now, oddsnsods said:

    Your an indoctrinated NPC yes I dont need a degree to know this obvious.



    PFFFFFT - the weapon of the uneducated. It teaches you proper research skills. Not confirmation bias!


    Just now, oddsnsods said:

    You choose to waste all your time on flat earther cultist tho, regurgitating total bollocks like its something important.


    No!! I am limited to where I can post! But even so, you can frickin' talk!


    Just now, oddsnsods said:

    Its never to late to quit being a shill.


    And he carries on being a jerk, Tell me where to apply for shill pay!


    It's never too late for you to test your claims at a place where YOU are in the minority - like here


    Just now, oddsnsods said:

    You could be a force for good.


    I am a force for good. What stunning arrogance makes you think that your claims are the rock solid truth?


    Just now, oddsnsods said:

    I posted peer reviewed & gov sources, you spammed me a load of 💩.

    Prove my post was a load of 💩. Which was the peer reviewed source? I thought government sources weren't to be trusted or are they too damn stupid that they post stuff that gives the game away. As if.

  10. tldr


    My source said your source makes up stuff. 


    Don't call me a troll. Your behaviour in the flat earth thread makes me look like a saint.


    Your research is confined to truther sites. Anything mainstream is automatically dismissed, This is confirmation bias in the extreme. You haven't a clue about my research capabilities. I'm guessing you didn't go to university - it helps understand what actual research is.

  11. @Golden Retriever@Macnamara For GR copying in Macnamara for your info.


    You know absolutely nothing about that crowhouse forum. If that was Max Igan making that statement then he is full of crap. 


    That thread was in full swing with THEIR members criticising the moderators here with one post after another! 


    During this tirade against THIS forum, with no moderation intervention from them whatsoever, numerous posts were directed at me that could at best be described as hostile trolling. I don't give a monkey's what you think of me. I generally post and argue my case whereas I mainly get posts in response that do not. I get that you don't like having your cosy views challenged and I am confined to the member's area here accordingly.


    I joined that tiny forum to answer the many posts aimed at me. EVERY subsequent response I made was in reply to an avalanche of trolling posts aimed back at me. Go read it - it's all there. I reported one post just as a token to see what they did - they left it up. That to me said they weren't interested in stopping the trolling - not INITIATED by me!


    Now you raise a thread to try and get me banned, well done you. What a hero you are. Except that Max Igan's shitty little forum  has loads of disaffected former members from here, now posting there, dissing the Icke forum moderators - damn unfairly I might add! - and some of them calling David Icke controlled opposition!


    Well done you, you just publicised that turd of a forum, that has no control over its tiny and out of order membership. Max Igan is a jerk who showed the most hypocritical double standards possible. He allowed his own members free range, but as soon as I came and challenged what they were saying - he makes his big bullshit speech and bans me and the VERY polite Basket Case - a great ex mod. Grumpy Owl was there, also very polite and whilst he and I didn't see eye to eye, he too was a good moderator. The idea that this Max Igan fool would play the big prima donna with his own forum full of vile and rude members, is a joke.


    GO READ IT ALL and stop painting me out to be the damn villain. Ziggy bloody Sawdust started that thread - and said some very shitty things about this forum!

  12. 34 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:


    He will come in & try to claim the authority.

    Like how can you be that dim not to recognise by now the media is just a mouthpiece for big pharma directly or via government funding.

    Media is the virus



    Kindly cease your ad hominems, there's a good chap. Either you want to debate this properly or you want to carry on being a jerk.

  13. 5 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said:

    Stop. He was right on the money there with your MO. Just look at all the nasa links you use to reaffirm your unprovable beliefs. You are doing the very same thing here.


    Liar. I don't use that many NASA links and since the massive. massive of majority of claims comes from people using NASA material, referencing it and explaining it is perfectly reasonable. 

  14. 2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Your site doesnt say shit about my claims, quit pretending it does.



    I didn't say it did. I posted evidence that questions the veracity of your source. You made no attempt to refute it, quit saying it doesn't count.


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Address the points made or admit your are just a coward who prefers to attack those trying to expose this monster.


    You want me to address your wall of cut and pasta predominantly from a website that I have shown to be flawed in the extreme? You call me a coward? You made claims about the Lunar landings then chickened out on a debate request.


    How are you exposing anything? This forum is reaching very few who aren't already convinced.


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Again, you havent proven my argument wrong atall.



    Which one? One liner, be specific.


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    You are repeating your own bullshit..you wont find any of the information I posted above from a google search...you will be bombarded with fact checker sites. 2+2=5.


    I am fascinated how you determine MY source is bullshit and your source is the truth! Google has definitely blocked loads of these disinfo sites, that's for sure. Yahoo and Bing haven't though.


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    I can give countless examples of MSM fake news & lies.



    Sure you can. What like Sandy Hook and stuff like that!


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Try Addressing the information presented.


    Try addressing my rebuttal.


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:



    Back at you. I'm not in favour of vaccinations of this nature for groups that are far less likely to die from covid-19, but unlike you I'm not smitten with the "it's satan poison" deterrent.

  15. 2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    You see Marianna disinfo specialist cant refute one point in my post, just spams a load of "fat chequer" baalshit..he will not engage atall.


    Stop referring to me as Marianna disinfo specialist. If you are incapable of debating properly what the hell are you even doing? 


    YOU spammed a load of truther claims. I responded with a site showing the source you adore is riddled with errors and suspect. YOU evaded my entire response.


    So don't sit on your high horse claiming your "spam" is somehow all truth because you say so.


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Proven, just when you think he cant get anymore transparent, he reaffirms for you.


    Ad hominem. Try not to be a jerk about this. 


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Fat chequers have no credibility on this forum. Im sure David & Gareth would back me on that too.


    Way to go. So you just wave away rebuttal with the Jedi mind trick. I don't care what either of them say. If the arguments made are inaccurate show how. I missed where you did that.


    2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

    Anyone can google anything & get 20 sites. That is Orwellian bullshit we dont need around here.


    But that's what truthers do. They google stuff, find it and post it without checking it. If you really want to have a debate on this instead of playing your big bullshit ad hominem game - one point at a time......go.....

  16. Wow. That's amazing news. Must be linked to the covid-19 vaccine huh? Because conspiracy theorists claim so. You don't want me to reply to you, yet you dump this crap in the one place that I can respond. Sounds like you want me to bite.


    Canada’s long road to a vaccine injury compensation program | CMAJ


    "“Serious side effects are incredibly rare,” said Trudeau. “In the very unlikely event of an adverse reaction, though, we want to make sure Canadians have fair access to support.”"


    "Canadian health experts have been calling for a national vaccine injury compensation program since at least the mid-1980s. Canada is seen as an outlier in this respect as 19 countries have national vaccine injury support programs, including all other G7 nations, according to Wilson..


    Quebec has had a vaccine injury compensation program since 1985, spurred by the 1979 case of a five-year-old girl who developed viral encephalitis shortly after receiving a measles vaccination. Attempts were made to develop a national program at that time, but federal and provincial deputy health ministers refused to fund it in the absence of accurate estimates of vaccine-related injuries.

  17. Got to love the "dailyexpose" and their creative statistical manipulation. Got to love the idea that the Ukraine war is all made up and a "distraction".


    Fact Check: Canadian Govt Did NOT Publish Data That 'Suggests' People Triple-Vaccinated For COVID-19 Developed AIDS, Are 5X More Likely To Die Of COVID Than Unvaccinated | Lead Stories


    Fake news, quick subscribe, donate to his cause. Go look at how many websites have duplicated this crap.


    Sad, but very relevant:  “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.” 




  18. EXCLUSIVE: Actors Behind UK Misinformation Site The Daily Expose Revealed (logically.ai)

    A Logically investigation can reveal that Jonathan Allen-Walker of Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire is behind the conspiracy news site, The Daily Expose.

    The Daily Expose is a U.K.-focused conspiracy site created in November of last year, and since its establishment, it has promoted a standard portfolio of COVID-denialist, anti-vaxxer, and Great Reset myths framed as breaking news. It has grown to be extremely influential in the alt-news ecosystem, with its articles getting thousands of shares per day on Telegram, Twitter, and other private chat channels. Although the website is less than a year old, it has grown by more than 300,000 page views per month since January, with the last data available suggesting it had more than 1.5 million total cumulative views. 

    Unusually for a conspiracy site, The Daily Expose produces original content several times per day, rather than resharing memes or articles from elsewhere. On its “about” page, it claims to use only official documents from government or scientific sources to write its stories. The writers often distort or misinterpret the information within the snapshots of the documents they use to push a number of conspiratorial narratives. For instance, The Daily Expose has claimed that vaccines were approved without any sort of safety checks and that vaccines are causing mass death. 

    The writers and contributors don’t request interviews with scientists, government officials, or other qualified experts to make sure they’re interpreting these documents correctly. Nor do they give the right of reply to any of the institutions or figures they are reporting on, which is an expected journalistic practice. The Daily Expose has fielded interviews with fringe figures, for instance, Mike Yeadon, but the interviews take the form of a transcript of their opinions, which are neither questioned nor fact checked. Because the writer or writers have been anonymous to this point, they have not been able to be held accountable for their content, nor do they have wider connections to any journalists who can vouch for their work. All of these factors make the website an extremely dangerous platform for misinformation, as it carries the weight of official documents without the transparency or accountability of reputable science or journalism.

    The Daily Expose’s first posts are from November 2020. In March, Twitter suspended its main account, but almost immediately The Daily Expose was able to make a succession of alt accounts to get around the ban. At least five accounts were created at various stages after the initial ban. After the second ban, The Daily Expose made sure to run pairs of accounts so that individual account bans wouldn’t result in a complete loss of followers or lack of ability to tweet. The ban-evading accounts would always point followers to the paired account, accusing Twitter of censorship. Generally, accounts were set up with different phone numbers and email accounts from different providers, though they included similar bios, images, and headers, while also all linking to The Daily Expose website. Presently, two of their alts remain operational and have 18k and 14k followers respectively. A full 65 percent of their referrals come from Twitter.

    The articles are all anonymous, signed online with a “Daily Expose” byline, save for a regular column written by Emily Smith of Leeds, who uses the WordPress handle captaindaretofly, and other occasional one-time contributors. On her other social media, Smith does not post anonymously. 

    It is not clear that Smith knows who runs the website. On a podcast episode with two other conspiracy content creators, Denty and Shaz, she says that she contributes articles voluntarily rather than for money. Smith did not respond to a request for comment. 

  19. 7 hours ago, oddsnsods said:


    @Mr. Nice You attack the messenger, (Daily Expose) rather than the message. That is a sign of weakness & tells me you are not atall honest, which again of course I already knew.


    You want to play bullshit games? What did you do with the website I gave you about the Bond film? There's a very good reason I don't indulge in this subject and that's this totally subjective perspective that you and all your "honest" truthers invoke.


    Damn right I attack "the messenger" when it has a history of complete fail. In your post above you made several references to the failure of some pharmaceutical companies which is doing the same thing, only in this case "virtue" is on your side because of reasons.


    The Daily Expose - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)

    Failed Fact Checks

    Overall, we rate The Daily Expose a Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy and Quackery level Pseudoscience website based on promoting false and misleading information regarding Covid-19. (D. Van Zandt 4/4/2021) Updated (01/11/2022)

  20. @alexaIs there any subject you post on that isn't influenced by ignorant claims? This claim was made on the other thread, page 2!



    This engineering marvel was built by these guys:




    Here it is without the cladding for micro-meteorites, and very expensive heat dispersion/ reflection foil


    Another whackamole, Apollo-conspiracy-by-numbers moment. Let's put it into perspective. NASA didn't even design this craft and if it was faked, the entire Grumman team built a machine not fit for purpose and there was an awful lot of them! Plus, why didn't NASA make their craft a work of visual art for the






    Like everything else, the ascent and descent stages were built to be as light as possible. But because they knew they would operate only in a vacuum, many things really didn't need to be sturdy, nor did the shape of it matter. It would never have to deal with aerodynamic drag. In fact, the descent stage was designed to buckle in the right places upon landing, that was how it absorbed the impact. It was only going to be used once, this was the most weight-efficient method of handling the shock of landing. 

    Also, the complex insulation blankets covering the module had many layers, and contact points between the layers needed to be minimized so that heat wouldn't be passed through them by conduction. The black material is where thin Inconel sheets formed the outer layer of the insulation blanket, and they were painted matte black with Pyromark paint to improve their heat emission properties, so they would cool off quickly. (Black material both absorbs and emits heat better than material of other colors.) Beneath the black layer were reflective layers to prevent the heat of the black layer penetrating into the module. This treatment was done where the exhaust of the reaction control thrusters heated the lunar modules. It had a tendency to crinkle, and on this particular module, that may have been accentuated by the fact it was in fact installed at the last minute, as were the chutes under the thrusters. From the Lunar Module Coatings Page:

    A few months before flight, shock tunnel tests using a new thruster duty cycle revealed that the Pyromark painted Inconel lay-ups on the upper sides of the Descent Stage quads would not be sufficient protection against the hot plumes. A crash program to design a fix resulted in "coal chute" plume deflectors mounted below the down-firing jets. These were installed on LM 5 while it was on the pad, just before launch.

    Another last minute thermal fix added 39 pounds of Kapton and Pyromark painted Inconel to the landing gear, pads and probe. One of the reasons for this added weight was a crew request(!) that they be allowed to keep the engine on past probe contact to pad touchdown. This would result in greater heating from the engine plume as it reflected off the lunar surface past the gear.

    Considering the vast ambition of going to the Moon for the first time, it isn't surprising some fixes were last-minute.

    The foil is Kapton MLI (multi-layer insulation) blankets, and it is actually pretty complex. In the places on the lunar modules that only needed to be a heat barrier to sunlight, high reflectivity was the most efffective approach, and those places are the shiny amber color of the Kapton. As there is no air in space to pass heat by convection, if you lower absorption of heat radiation by making surfaces that are highly reflective or emissive, and there are few contact points to pass heat by conduction, insulation can be highly effective. With the Kapton foil blankets, the contact points were reduced by hand-crinkling an inner layer of the blanket. From the Apollo News Reference:

    To make an even more effective insulation, the polymide sheets are hand crinkled before blanket fabrication. This crinkling provides a path for venting, and minimizes contact conductance between the layers.

    So, this is bound to make the outer layer rather uneven.

    All the other covering material you see is also just there to protect whatever is underneath from the effects of sunlight. Perhaps they were also thinking a bit about keeping dust out. That is all it has to do, and it was made merely sufficient for that job. Weight savings were more important than looks. The fancy stuff is underneath all those bare-bones panels.

    I found a different photo of the lander that gives a better sense of the complexity of it. The photo shows the Ascent Stage in the process of assembly, before the heat shielding had been put on it:

    Apollo 11 lunar lander

    This photo of an LM test article shows the sturdy underlying aluminum and titanium structure pretty clearly:

    "naked" LM test article from the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum

    And a quote from the book Chariots of Apollo available on the NASA website's History section:

    By the end of 1965, Scrape and SWIP had pruned away 1,100 kilograms, providing a comfortable margin below the control weight limit. One of the more striking changes to come from this drive for a lighter spacecraft was the substitution of aluminum-mylar foil thermal blankets for rigid heatshields. The gold wrapping characteristic of the lander's exterior saved 50 kilograms. Many of these weight-reducing changes made the lander so difficult to fabricate, so fragile and vulnerable to damage, that it demanded great care and skill by assembly and checkout technicians. Structural components took on strange and complex shapes, requiring careful machining to remove any excess metal

    'Scrape' and 'SWIP' were both programs Grumman, the company that fabricated the Lunar Module, instituted specifically to reduce the weight of the LM.

    I found both things on a great thread on the topic at CosmoQuest

    You can pore over the LM Apollo Operations Handbook for a great deal of technical information on the spacecraft, for more evidence.

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