Mr. Nice

There is a certain sadness to it as well....when somebody who has no understanding of physics makes statements such as the one above. I mean what do you say to such abject failure. I don't think you can break through the brick wall of ignorance.

Righto. Are you saying that is the force that replaces gravity?

Well that would be because physics and mathematics, simple things that are just 100% established, don't explain a flat earth. The irony in your daft video is probably lost on you. Ok, so this guy appears to be, or you appear to be suggesting that gravity is from a magnet. Now magnets do indeed pull metallic objects towards them and they do accelerate as they get nearer. But we have some big problems, they don't attract everything and the distance away from them varies the attractive force.....quite considerably and where is this magical magnet located accordingly? Whereas on planet Earth, no matter where you are or height from the surface it's pretty spot on the same (minor, tiny variation at altitude etc.).

These would be the ones that you don't understand or fail to reply to. What was it about 100 of them?

That's called spamming and your post was answered. If you have concerns about NASA, why are you afraid to have them examined properly?

Yes I clicked it. Yes. Are you an ISS denier too?

Sigh. It is quite painful to debate something with somebody who blunders into a subject I studied 15 years ago. Somebody who wears his biased bullshit conspiracy blinkers that prevent him from seeing anything else. After the war. Lots of rocket scientists. Some went to Russia. Some went to the USA. They were labelled Nazis because the vast majority worked for the party. Sadly, as in any war .....not by choice. Now a few were subsequently found to be guilty of stuff. 99% were not. Very few made it into managerial roles. Wernher von Braun was the biggest and he was sent out to pasture soon after Apollo. But conspiracy blinkers sees evil nazis and infesting NASA for all time. Do you have anything of substance on this or can it be taken as read that you will just toddle off without saying anything?

@oddsnsodsffs stop with the insults. Of course you won't get pulled up for it because you are on team local. Now. I will spend a bit if time re-examining this and seeing what's new. Give me some time. It's not a 5 minute thing. As I said...all my reading last year was done on the fly and I didn't take notes. Quite why MY assessment is important to you is baffling. I've seen and read quite substantial debunks on many of the Sub claims on this subject. I have not seen you disagree with a single one of them.

I'm away from my computer. I'll get back to you tomorrow....if I can be arsed. It isn't a five minute debunk. It takes a lot of trawling to answer these and I didn't take notes when I went through a lot of this for my own personal checks. I never had any intention of walking back into that covid thread after the mass trolling last time.

Oddsnsods said peer review. Try not to make so many foul ups and ffs stop trolling me.

I'm just not getting drawn into this. Debunks on debunker sites...go look. It's just too much subjective bollocks. Just one. The cdc didn't have any samples of the original strain. Then all of a sudden the shtick is that it isn't possible. Nonsense.

Oh, absolutely. I hate governments. Never voted, never will. The pandemic restrictions did seem harsh and I absolutely hated the track and trace down the pub! But I don't see a workable alternative. Corporate dominance is an out of control monster. No amount of huffing and puffing is going to affect it. It's like a flea farting near a dinosaur.

Pretty damn cool. I remember many years ago an amateur DX'd Voyager 1 - I can't find the link now.

Cool, this isn't off topic at all. You must understand what the burden of proof is dude. You claim established science is horseshit...off you go....I'll let you know if I agree with you.

I suspect that history is something that falls into the category that you speak of. Personally, the methodology for research is something that is most certainly not indoctrination.

No pretence is involved. But there is equally nothing to be gained by the ignorant seeking to elevate their uninformed opinions whilst claiming those who were educated have been indoctrinated.

You have absolutely no idea about higher education. The research part is called research for a reason. There aren't extra points for copying shit already done! Programmed? You mean like the facebook and twitter trolls who mindlessly parrot conspiracy themes without a thought of their own. Educated people didn't buy into anything - they used their research skills to determine what stacked up and what didn't - guess what. 5g causing covid-19 didn't. mRNA being this bullshit gene altering mechanism didn't stack up. Viruses don't exist...ditto. Non isolated sars2 - ditto...... You started this thread, god knows why! One of the great things about flat earth/apollo or any number of the lower hanging fruit teaches examples of logic, critical thinking skills and a whole host of mechanisms to learn how to assess data. The absence of anyone picking up these skills is very telling. It should tell you something when you find you are talking to a brick wall discussing flat earth with a flat earther. Only with you.....

PFFFFFT - the weapon of the uneducated. It teaches you proper research skills. Not confirmation bias! No!! I am limited to where I can post! But even so, you can frickin' talk! And he carries on being a jerk, Tell me where to apply for shill pay! It's never too late for you to test your claims at a place where YOU are in the minority - like here. I am a force for good. What stunning arrogance makes you think that your claims are the rock solid truth? Prove my post was a load of . Which was the peer reviewed source? I thought government sources weren't to be trusted or are they too damn stupid that they post stuff that gives the game away. As if.

Yes, long time ago. Forgot most of it, may have to dig it out. The film was quite good too.

tldr My source said your source makes up stuff. Don't call me a troll. Your behaviour in the flat earth thread makes me look like a saint. Your research is confined to truther sites. Anything mainstream is automatically dismissed, This is confirmation bias in the extreme. You haven't a clue about my research capabilities. I'm guessing you didn't go to university - it helps understand what actual research is.

@Golden [email protected] For GR copying in Macnamara for your info. You know absolutely nothing about that crowhouse forum. If that was Max Igan making that statement then he is full of crap. That thread was in full swing with THEIR members criticising the moderators here with one post after another! During this tirade against THIS forum, with no moderation intervention from them whatsoever, numerous posts were directed at me that could at best be described as hostile trolling. I don't give a monkey's what you think of me. I generally post and argue my case whereas I mainly get posts in response that do not. I get that you don't like having your cosy views challenged and I am confined to the member's area here accordingly. I joined that tiny forum to answer the many posts aimed at me. EVERY subsequent response I made was in reply to an avalanche of trolling posts aimed back at me. Go read it - it's all there. I reported one post just as a token to see what they did - they left it up. That to me said they weren't interested in stopping the trolling - not INITIATED by me! Now you raise a thread to try and get me banned, well done you. What a hero you are. Except that Max Igan's shitty little forum has loads of disaffected former members from here, now posting there, dissing the Icke forum moderators - damn unfairly I might add! - and some of them calling David Icke controlled opposition! Well done you, you just publicised that turd of a forum, that has no control over its tiny and out of order membership. Max Igan is a jerk who showed the most hypocritical double standards possible. He allowed his own members free range, but as soon as I came and challenged what they were saying - he makes his big bullshit speech and bans me and the VERY polite Basket Case - a great ex mod. Grumpy Owl was there, also very polite and whilst he and I didn't see eye to eye, he too was a good moderator. The idea that this Max Igan fool would play the big prima donna with his own forum full of vile and rude members, is a joke. GO READ IT ALL and stop painting me out to be the damn villain. Ziggy bloody Sawdust started that thread - and said some very shitty things about this forum!

Kindly cease your ad hominems, there's a good chap. Either you want to debate this properly or you want to carry on being a jerk.

Liar. I don't use that many NASA links and since the massive. massive of majority of claims comes from people using NASA material, referencing it and explaining it is perfectly reasonable.

I didn't say it did. I posted evidence that questions the veracity of your source. You made no attempt to refute it, quit saying it doesn't count. You want me to address your wall of cut and pasta predominantly from a website that I have shown to be flawed in the extreme? You call me a coward? You made claims about the Lunar landings then chickened out on a debate request. How are you exposing anything? This forum is reaching very few who aren't already convinced. Which one? One liner, be specific. I am fascinated how you determine MY source is bullshit and your source is the truth! Google has definitely blocked loads of these disinfo sites, that's for sure. Yahoo and Bing haven't though. Sure you can. What like Sandy Hook and stuff like that! Try addressing my rebuttal. Back at you. I'm not in favour of vaccinations of this nature for groups that are far less likely to die from covid-19, but unlike you I'm not smitten with the "it's satan poison" deterrent.