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With all the talk about race these days and with racism apparently being an issue right here on this forum, I began to think. From my perspective, it is only really lost people that are still getting offended from those offering their opinions on race.
And certain opinions now are even illegal? There is a locked thread on this which made me recall this interview and several others by one of our greatest activists and a great thinker as well...
I am not even saying I agree or disagree here, but it brings questions.
Would this be illegal to say today? Would Ali need to be banned/canceled regardless? Or are topics like this still allowed to be discussed? And if not, why? And what does that say about liberty?
Thanks for looking
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But rockets in space?
Here is a pretty good conversation between a nasa shill and someone who thinks that illustrates the hoax well...
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17 hours ago, Hegel Schmegel said:
Note: I didn't know exactly which thread of the two opposing camps to place this under so I contacted a moderator for advice. Although it was suggested that I could post my question in both of these threads, I've decided on this one only, since I kind of would like to get the flat-earthers input on the question I have more than anyone else on the forum.
Q: What to make of these portable devices called gravimeters? These are said to measure the gravitational pull on earth and hardened skeptics of the flat-earth theory often use this as a talking point in their attempts to debunk the theory.
I pose this question as one with one leg on a plane and the other on a planet, which is another way of saying, on this particular issue I'm a theory-straddler, as I don't adamantly defend/oppose either model and am merely wanting to learn more and to get the flat-earthers' take on this.
If you are honestly interested I would recommended asking this on the ifers forum. They would probably ask if you really believe there are portable devices that prove that anything follows the curvature of space-time. And how exactly that one works. Has space-time been proven? Has gravity?
And to get back on topic here, this was just posted there and it seems pretty relevant to this thread.
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This is a simple observation that people are too afraid to trust themselves about. It's that water will always find its' level.
That is to say, no matter if the bodies of waters are connected directly, there is a level even if you need to drill down. It saturates the deepest levels of the know crust of our earth, just like the weight of the gases on the surface of water create the oceans level, so that ANYTHING connected to the ocean it touches is under water, where rivers meet bays. And it means that the pressure of the ground, and the air WILL create waters' level. They are all connected, and cannot bent to gravity. water does not bent at the local level so, even if the gradual change in water pressure over vast distances were true, it would have to be true within 8 inches per mile squared (at least for the first 250 miles, then you need geometric algebra, but you don't need to go father that 10 miles to understand how impossible a globe would be. 8 per mile squared, is 32.6 feet CHANGE in water level in just 10 miles a 3-story building change in water level in only 10 miles is stupid. we cant go on believing that nonsense. it would create a noticeable slope, and have you see the huge view on a clear day? Do you see a noticeable slope that big between two mountains that are 10 miles apart? Humans can see 120 degree span, that covers much more than 10 miles, anyone can observe, but 32 is not a huge slope...but it exponential...100 miles is more than a mile of slope, and in 360 degrees. You gotta think about that one for for while. That’s a HUGE slope
and water is not rushing to one side not at 10 miles or 100...or down a stagnate 20 mile canal.
does anyone really like to think of the science? think of the water level at a micro local level, the H20 elements, and all the other elements find their balance, the point of least resistance, , eventually, always. The elements, the compounds floating in it and blocking it, whatever, it responds to all other water molecules until its perfectly level for inches, feet, miles, etc.
Think about what they expect us to believe at the micro level:
[water molecule]: "Ok, cool, I’m gonna just be ok with the other water squeezing my electronic field a little, not gonna obey the laws of physics for this bond because, gravity, I’ll just be cool not making an ideal molecule bond for all the other molecules around me because I'm not gonna follow that fundamental law of conservation of energy, because, its time to start wrapping around the globe."
I hope we all remember how water finds it level, at the micro and because of science of fucking water, which is super is to understand at this LEVEL. Water does; ALWAYS finds a balance. It breaks mountains, glaciers and bedrock. Its why there is no such barrier that can be made which can TRULY be called, waterproof. Water has time; it's content with mountains and glaciers, so doesn't matter how long it has to deal with other pressures, it will always be a water level. the point that water can’t do anything else, the molecular level is the “global” level…its not a ball, its flat as the ocean.
We have to be confident in our knowledge fundamental science, of a truth you can observe and do need to take nobody's word for it. Earth truth leads us to the next truth, and the next. It starts with realizing the level water means the next truth is that the earth is flat. After that…I’m not sure who we should ask as to why they lied about this and the moon landings and all of space travel and Elon, wtf?!?!-
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On 8/29/2022 at 2:31 PM, sickofallthebollocks said:
Sorry for the delay getting back to you Endfreemason, no mate, not a direct reference I'm sorry to say.
Looking through the replies on that twatter thread though, the original poster (from twttr) said it was from this video:
(excuse the unnecessary lionking clip - why they choose to put this kind of crap onto an already interesting clip I just don't know?)
Actually - there is a toy lion at theend of a camera stick near the end of the clip - maybe that's why they did it?)No problem, just that we have many examples from around 20 miles. The top image below is one of them...
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I don't think that you or Hawking understand the actual argument. In other words, through several obvious factors we are fated to look before crossing. Is there evidence that that is choice?
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3 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:
Do you have a reference for the "25 miles up?"
Fascinating yet again if true.
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On 8/2/2022 at 12:20 PM, endfreemasonscum said:
I think level could still be a psyop, but far larger? At this point I would say clearly. They count on the fact that no one will do the math. I just did it for this one...
Either way, this guy is really good. Thanks for posting.
Bom, check this out as it relates to our prior discussion. This is agreed on by flearthers and glearthers alike. Ask anyone with math skills and all what follows will be the exact agreed upon maths for all of it, assuming this was a globe, 25000 miles in circumference. This is what has been claimed since way before any of us were born... and all of the important claimants? F__king masons.
At 35000 feet the horizon begins at around 225 miles (229.3). Everything beyond that point, starting from the top, cannot be visible. And the farther the distance, the less that can be seen. If Earth were a sphere the size claimed.
Now it gets weirder. Over 1000 miles, a drop of just over 125 miles must be accepted by both sides. And when we factor in a height of 35000 feet for where we can approximate where the video was taken from, almost 75 miles has to be completely hidden!
The bulge height alone, or the center point between the observer and the target is over 31 miles!
What can we actually construe from this information? In simple terms, we cannot exist on a globe if it is anywhere even near the size the masonic narrative claims.
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22 hours ago, webtrekker said:
GLOBE EARTH
FLAT EARTH
And look at this ... No wonder they want to keep us away from the Poles! ...
Follow the Science!
[PS. I never knew the World was Made In China. You learn something new every day!].
Worst troll post in a long time. At least get creative. And the funny part is that no one wants this solved. How easy would it be to program a drone to follow the horizon in a straight line?
Put one on the equator... fly it directly east or west from only that point. Problem pretty much solved.
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15 hours ago, zArk said:
level
I think level could still be a psyop, but far larger? At this point I would say clearly. They count on the fact that no one will do the math. I just did it for this one...
Either way, this guy is really good. Thanks for posting.
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On 7/30/2022 at 1:28 PM, melanie said:
Does that video put an end to the hoax landing claims?
I guess about as much as this does...
Remember that they changed the landing pad after being called out and somehow youtube still shows it as a live production.
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On 7/28/2022 at 12:20 AM, zArk said:
JTolan
Using photogrammetry based on aerial 830nm IR images, we derive the curvature of the earth surface in the upper mid-west states to a stunning precision
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JTolan in comments ----- watch the 3D clip on a computer monitor, not a large TV, the spacing between red and blue is too wide and you won't perceive 3D] my spell checker failed , intro slide typo "Photogrametry" not Phtogrametry" grrrrrrr, let me know if you see any other typos, or errors. Maybe I'll upload a corrected one later. 23:25, if you noticed I adjusted the radius of the earth to 50 000 mi to try and curve fit the observed data, and the green line came up, (eventually, my computer was running slow and the update took a while) but even that value is not enough, the observed radius of curvature is more like 100 000 miles, but that's just because I did not fine tune the slope just perfectly, otherwise it would be INFINITE ! Just Incredible.
Yes! That is stuff I have been seeing. Does it prove flat? At least something vastly larger? That guy's whole channel is really something everyone should look at.
As I posted on another thread...
At this point, I honestly am not sure. The long distance stuff is really quite fascinating. If the Earth's circumference is really around 25,000 miles, then the Earth's surface must curve a certain amount over any distance. We hear 8 inches per mile squared is a simple way to calculate this and when compared to the actual trig, it works for any of the distances we see in all the photos and videos
Here is another one of those black swans that odds was talking about...
And here is really good one dealing with just the horizon itself, why people think they see curvature and what the horizon truly looks like at high altitudes from cameras designed to not distort and curve the edges...
The guy making the videos above goes by taboo conspiracy and he has much more video showing these exact same problems. Still does not prove flat, but more land? Just maybe? Something is off for sure. Here is one of his compilations with many more of these observations,,,
Quite an awesome psyop to hide land and resources if nothing else?
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What are they hiding?
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One more thing...
This has been shown by flat Earthers to obviously disprove the globe. It is a perfect example of what I spoke of above. I have read the globe responses which clearly fail.
But that said, how the hell does any flat Earth model ever allow for this? If this should be on the globe thread, please feel free to move.
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I guess I have to come in with my two.
On 7/21/2022 at 1:55 PM, Bombadil said:This topic has been created to create a space where members can post and discuss their beliefs and evidence that the Earth is flat.
The thread is only to discuss this particular view. Opposing views/beliefs/evidence can be posted in a newly created separate thread about the mainstream view of the Earth.Amy member who does not follow these rules will be warned.
I have to say, I think is a nice effort to open discussion on a topic that is clearly a hated topic, both by the mainstream and the conspiracy/truth world. With that said and clearly this is an improvement from the ex-mod team with regard to free political speech, I feel, after my short romp into this topic that it misses the point.
I feel if we can learn anything from the flat Earth movement, it is more to do with facts that prevent Earth from being a globe of the narratives dimensions, than its true physical shape. It appears and there is a massive amount of evidence that is presented by the flat Earth truthers that show this. At the same time look at these threads. With the exception of what zark posted regarding the fecore observations, nothing on either thread pertains to the topic at hand.
How do beliefs in orbiting satellites that provide data do this?
How does the supposed Eratosthenes observation that assumes a globe do this. This will happen on every post on the other thread. Every 'proof' must assume a globe up front. Or assume other things based solely on trusting the science. Or the thread will be blank and you will delete every post based on your original post.
This thread can be loaded with videos that I have posted on other thread, while at the same time will not be proof of a truly flat realm. Here is an example that I posted on another thread...
Thank-you for posting this. It was actually pretty good. They really hit all the points the internet experts harp on. I think I knew from studying these arguments from both sides, but what was very interesting for me was the part where we see the sun setting, the zoom is applied, and we then see how far above the horizon that the sun actually is. I am not sure there is a globe argument for that one, but I definitely could have missed it.
The other thing I found interesting was right after, where we watch the sun set from a drone. The globe argument maintains that the sun does not change size in the sky and that it sets because we are rotating backwards. The flat earthers have claimed that it sets because it is moving away and getting smaller until it eventually vanishes. The video showing this really caught my eye and it is another giant indication that something is off.
This should begin at 1:11:30. Watch until 1:12:05...
The other thing I would mention is the black swan video odds mentioned where the horizon is clearly behind it all. None of that happens if our Earth were the size that they claim. The Chicago pic alone places our diameter somewhere past where they claim pour sun's is.
While none of this makes much sense, there are lies here that need to be exposed. The fact the nasa and supposedly other countries' space agencies show us the same crap is more problematic and a great indication that this needs to be looked at. Look at all the debunking sites. Why are they all nasa controlled op?
On 7/24/2022 at 10:35 AM, zArk said:Airys failure 1871 gives us proof the earth is stationary.
An experiment to measure stellar abberation inadvertently measured the earth does not spin.
https://wiki.tfes.org/Airy's_Failure
there are wgs84 responses to this situation however they rely solely upon Relativity which was disproven by sagnac experiment 1913 (wangs follow up) https://wiki.tfes.org/Sagnac_Experiment and the previous experiment by michelson morley 1887 https://wiki.tfes.org/Michelson-Morley_Experiment
these experiments are reproducable, their results still stand and used in combination provide a recognised basis however they are ignored and pooh poohed by the helio and wgs84 believers
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establishing a stationary and non spinning earth is not proof of a flat earth in and of themselves. A sphere requires a measurable curve, which there isnt.
This has nothing to do with Earth's shape, but is strong evidence that Earth does not move. The nasa shill site debunks are terrible on this point.
On 7/26/2022 at 5:59 AM, zArk said:The moon has been shown many times to be translucent when waxing and stars have been identified through the supposedly solid object
Fascinating.
14 hours ago, TheConsultant said:
I assume because there is nothing to refute as far as I can see. I see they crowbar Ken Wheeler in for good measure too.Please Bom's post that began this thread. The shill stuff is not wanted here.
Without this trolling, we might have a decent thread. I feel to do this right we need a locked thread next to the nasa shill's at the top of this forum that simply shows the numerous reasons why it is impossible that we are on a gravity created sphere that flies through a vacuum, where gas giants exist, at unimaginable speeds and in several directions that can never be shown to exist. It will be far better than the fantasy created through false assumptions that the old mod team chose to lock at the top of this forum.
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On 6/25/2022 at 11:08 AM, Nefaria said:
You must of watched a different video, I remember quite clearly hearing them say those things in it.
I rewatched it. They definetley did not. And it looks to me like you purposely changed their words, thus changing their entire point.
Here is what you put in quotes and what they were truly saying...
"there's something magical at the north pole because all compasses point there!"
They actually just point out that all compasses point to our magnetic north. And never claim magnets to be magical in any way.
"Those highly inaccurate maps from the 1600s must be right!"
They were pointing out that in many older maps, we see four land masses and water at the north pole, and today the maps show basically nothing. Even google earth in their satellite view just shows us a cartoon of white nothingness.
They never came close to saying "they must be right."
"The earth isn't spinning because i can't feel it moving!"
Again, this was never said. They say that we don't feel it, but that is never offered as proof. It's more like no experiment has ever shown any of the motions and several experiments have tried and failed to do so.
On 6/25/2022 at 11:08 AM, Nefaria said:And you really think that they would be able to keep extra land a secret?
At this point, I honestly am not sure. The long distance stuff is really quite fascinating. If the Earth's circumference is really around 25,000 miles, then the Earth's surface must curve a certain amount over any distance. We hear 8 inches per mile squared is a simple way to calculate this and when compared to the actual trig, it works for any of the distances we see in all the photos and videos
Here is another one of those black swans that odds was talking about...
And here is really good one dealing with just the horizon itself, why people think they see curvature and what the horizon truly looks like at high altitudes from cameras designed to not distort and curve the edges...
The guy making the videos above goes by taboo conspiracy and he has much more video showing these exact same problems. Still does not prove flat, but more land? Just maybe? Something is off for sure. Here is one of his compilations with many more of these observations,,,
On 6/25/2022 at 11:59 AM, oddsnsods said:Thats the kind of bullshit they come out with all the time, surely youve watched an Eric Dubay video before??
I couldn't sit through 200 proofs, but I read it. A lot was repetitive, but the more land thing? Quite an awesome psyop to hide land and resources if nothing else.
On 6/25/2022 at 11:59 AM, oddsnsods said:I thought you watched all the cult videos?
Lol... like scimandan and professor dave? They are obvious nasa shills and I watched way more of theirs and actually if not for them, I might not even have stumbled on these other channels as the youtube algorithm doesn't seem to allow for that.
On 6/25/2022 at 11:59 AM, oddsnsods said:Im still waiting for you to explain ships over the horizon, or even the sunset I posted above you ignored as always.
I have to the best of my ability. My 1st post here dealt specifically with the sunset problem and I also posted on this on the other thread that is off in some free speech zone.
Ships over the horizon? Use a zoom lens and they are still there. These are not magic lenses, they just resolve tiny angles at great distances. Our eyes cannot do this.
The sunset when viewed from the beach and from altitude look very different. I timestamped the section in my post above that shows this. You even responded to it.
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I noticed that Mercury and Venus were both visible in the night sky for several hours. I confirmed this on my phone. Can anyone else verify? This should clearly be impossible.
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On 6/19/2022 at 1:20 PM, Nefaria said:
Omg, I don't know which of those people are the stupidest, "they are keeping it secret because there's more land" and "there's something magical at the north pole because all compasses point there!". "Those highly inaccurate maps from the 1600s must be right!". "The earth isn't spinning because i can't feel it moving!" Dear oh dear......
That's not really fair. From what I recall, they never said, "there's something magical at the north pole because all compasses point there!" or "Those highly inaccurate maps from the 1600s must be right!" or "The earth isn't spinning because i can't feel it moving!"
And while not proof of flat, the more land thing seems reasonable to me based on all the crazy distances that are being videoed and the seemingly impossible horizons that are shown all over the internet.
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Interesting video here a friend recently sent me.
It follows the documentary maker who flies all over the place asking people, including many experts in their respective, associated fields, one simple question:
What is a women?
This is best copy I could find on youtube and it has already been taken down several times. If you can watch this without cracking up several times, more power too you.
So, 2022... what is a women?
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10 hours ago, oddsnsods said:
"I have friends that were down on the beach that saw the sun set from the bottom up?? Thats because they are looking at a span of water with hilll & trees???"
Its all perspective bruh.
I laughed at the same thing! I watched this a few days ago and did a looking. It turns out this guy is (((David Weiss))) who has admitted to being funded by a Rothschild. He is was exposed as a shill from within the flat earth community. Some of the others in that movie have been exposed as well. Anyone who has looked at 9/11 has seen this same thing.
But I was focusing on the actual video and we discussed this idea before. And there are other videos from other people that do show the same things.
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Thank-you for posting this. It was actually pretty good. They really hit all the points the internet experts harp on. I think I knew from studying these arguments from both sides, but what was very interesting for me was the part where we see the sun setting, the zoom is applied, and we then see how far above the horizon that the sun actually is. I am not sure there is a globe argument for that one, but I definitely could have missed it.
The other thing I found interesting was right after, where we watch the sun set from a drone. The globe argument maintains that the sun does not change size in the sky and that it sets because we are rotating backwards. The flat earthers have claimed that it sets because it is moving away and getting smaller until it eventually vanishes. The video showing this really caught my eye and it is another giant indication that something is off.
This should begin at 1:11:30. Watch until 1:12:05...
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12 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:
In the interest of transparency for forum members may I ask why Anti Facts Sir and Bombadil are suddenly no longer Mods today and Lake aka
as Ink is back again?
12 hours ago, lake said:Of course but as you may know .... I have been gone for 13 days and so am having to catch up with all that has happened!
So I will give you the reasons (when I have the exact information) .... just a little time please :)
10 hours ago, legion said:
and itsa etc9 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:I wouldn't mind some explanation myself, but haven't been deemed worthy of it yet.
9 hours ago, TheConsultant said:
Oh! you didn't step away from being a mod by choice?9 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:No. I think I am able to confirm that. Not my choice. No warning. No reason.
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On 5/15/2022 at 8:57 AM, peter said:
For once we are in agreement I was interested in this when it was first reported and thought wow ,then utube pulled his entire channel ,I don't know if he is back now I haven't looked ,but I certainly thought the actions of mainstream scientists and utube were indeed strange to say the least
I think the title of the video is a bit misleading as I don't believe crow777 ever said the moon was holographic to my recollection, he was simply asking what the wave was, as to him it seemed like an energy pulse that always came in two's either 1 week before or after the winter solstice.
I mentioned this occurence in the other moon thread
I am not sure we have disagreed on anything other than debunking flat earthers every day for years is silly way to spend time.
As far as holograph or whatever, I think that is speculation, but I do think that whatever we see in those videos does not happen to rocks.
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On 5/14/2022 at 8:59 AM, peter said:
so begin
As far as the heli ,do I think the technology exist to do it,yes, have they done it ,I don't know as I haven't looked into it. I'm not that interested to be honest
Look up how helicopters work. Consider the necessary battery's weight and the weight of the motor. And look at nasa's story/explanation. And use discernment.
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China went to the moon and took a picture of a rock? I can not trust the nasa masons or their ilk.
Have you ever heard of crow777? He has an amazing telescope that he has taken moon videos with and they show what is generally now called the lunar wave. This has been replicated several times. The fans of peer-review should wonder how it is possible that no journal will publish any of this.
To make a long story short, the nasa masons freaked out, their debunkers went crazy and here is the debunk to debunks with the actual video included.
I can't explain this, but I'm sure we have moon experts who can.
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On 5/10/2022 at 11:07 AM, peter said:
well that's something new, if it's real I take it all back then
I don't care about that, but I am still curious if you believe there is a helicopter flying around there sending back video.
On 5/10/2022 at 11:07 AM, peter said:So why do you think it's not true
Where to begin?
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Why the earth is flat
in Nature Of Reality
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This was posted on the globe thread. There is a section in the middle that freezes the frame and it looks pretty flat. I don't know what this really is, but found it funny as the narrator talks about the curve being "astonishingly apparent."