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And how about the three wise men who followed the star to find Jesus, were they astrologers? Maybe astrology depends on your motives too.
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2 hours ago, rebornsteve said:
I'm not Scottish so I'm happy to let them have self-determination and elect whoever they like. But I wish the SNP would stop calling themselves nationalists because they're about as unionist as the lib dems here in England. Only they want to hand over their sovereignty to the EU instead of the UK.
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On 2/9/2023 at 3:01 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:
The final redpill for me is probably going to be the Christian question. I have mentioned before that I'm struggling with my faith. I feel like there is some conflict going on inside me with my Pagan ancestors and my Christian upbringing.
There's that feeling of doubt that I get every now and then where I feel like what if I am just following some anti-European desert cult. Then there's the other side of me that says that you're going to have your faith tested with deception. And I'm trying to understand why they would need to subvert Christendom if they controlled it from the beginning. It's a mind fvck.
This resonates with me EW. I left my church at the end of last year, although it wasn't the same one I was brought up in. I also get the attraction of nativist pagan religion, but can't just switch that faith on like a light. So I'm going back to basics and questioning it all from the ground up, the zero point.
I guess I'm off-topic because this is a political thread. However, in mitigation I'm having yet another mind-flip over how we can ever rebuild a strong national identity and community, and recover from this multicultural swamp without having a shared religious dimension to it. Can a secular political nationalism be enough to re-bind us? Religion plays such a strong role in glueing local communities together, I wonder if a national or racial identity by itself will be enough to resist the globalist cabal onslaught.
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11 hours ago, BeeThrive said:
To KNOW this people take psychoactive drugs, mainly as they force a ‘rattling of the cage of our earth-self-made ego’ and cause us to pop that bubble of self-made-ego identity and explore a wider reality than the narrow vision of our ego mind.
Or we can take the organic route of deconstructing and relinquishing all desires and self-identity notions we hold about ourselves.
Beyond this ‘ego-self’ - there’s another Self! A far more ‘universal’ Self! And beyond that…..
it’s a fractal….up and down the frequencies of mind.
Beyond mind?…..TRUE UNION - Completion - the thing searched for everywhere and never found OUTSIDE ourselves, but the ego will spend literally billions of years searching, for even that length of time on the seeking path is worth every step to reach Divinity.In REALITY, we’re already there, unified and complete - this mind experience is like phantom energy playing-out strings of lifetimes…a memory of a journey, like a dream…deja-vu on crack!
Modern Religions sabotage our very natural organic journey to knowing true Truth. They subpoena the will of followers, contort it and make it more false than before with stitched-together teachings hand-plucked to help rid guilty men of shameful conscience (constantine).
I would just say that if we cast our net beyond the traditional religions, themselves mostly derivatives of the Abrahamic roots, educate ourselves and look at the modern spiritual/religious scene, we can find good teachings that resonate with what you're saying. There's a lot of fluff and cults too, but that's only to be expected with the amount of freedom we currently have compared with most of our ancestors.
Edit.
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We get one hour before it's locked, after that we need to ask the mods for help.
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Hi Mac, I've come across a couple of points on my researches which may or may not be relevant, but they're new to me so here goes.
First was the other day when I saw an episode of The Real Jesus of Nazareth, with Robert Powell (who starred in the famous 70s series Jesus of Nazareth), where he visits Israel-Palestine and talks to various experts. Most of it was pretty conventional, but one bit about the family trade made me sit up. They said the word translated as carpenter really means builder, and that Joseph and his sons were more likely to have been stonemasons than carpenters, or at least masonry would have been one of their main skills. And I've always wondered why the secret society network chose masonry in particular for cover, when there's so many other trades they could have chosen. Perhaps it's to link with the building traditions of the Templars.
Secondly I was reading in wiki about the Davidic Line, to find out what happened to it after they went into exile during the Roman period. There's various claimants to the kingship, and some travelled into Europe in the middle ages, to Spain and Southern France. The history after that becomes harder to follow, and these claims are probably impossible to verify, but to have family bloodlines who believe themselves to be Jewish royalty, and continued belief in the Messiah / Moshiach gets me wondering if there's secret societies protecting the bloodlines and biding their time until they come out into the open and claim the messiahship rather like Sabbatai Zevi did in the 17th C.
Great thread by the way!
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23 hours ago, JCP said:
Jesus Christ IS Lucifer...
I've been watching Morgue official's channel occasionally for a while. He's not for the conventional Christians, that's for sure! Some good material about gnosticism, mysticism and esoterica, but I get the feeling that his free content is just a taster for his full paid teaching.
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6 hours ago, pi3141 said:
Well I kinda agree with the term Satanist as a word to describe opposers- but Satan is largely a Myth, a low level spirit without much power. The Satanist's are deceived.
Satan belongs to the Abrahamic group of religions, it's part of their dialectic of Good vs Evil we are taught to think of Satanism as in opposition to those religions. Whereas occultism is a more general term which can be applied to many secret teachings. And the Christians have projected Satanic imagery onto what they call pagan gods as propaganda, which muddied the waters for a long time.
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11 hours ago, DaleP said:
It is all to do with how you define who is THE GOD, Creator.
Yes, this sets the scene for the whole discussion.
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49 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:
CBDCs will have expiry dates after which their value will evaporate or erode.
That's bad but so does regular cash erode, that's inflation. And inflation is another name for rationing, it didn't end in the 1950s. In fact the whole supply and demand curve is like that, but the difference is it's not controlled by central computer algorithms.
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@EnigmaticWorld It's predictable that this type of thing will happen, it can be seen playing out all over Europe, and yet the ptb persist. It shows how much they hate us and want us under their jackboots.
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5 hours ago, Truthblast said:
I wasn't around 2000 years ago but I believe that God may have chosen option 3) and played "the perfect man" to show men how to be TRULY GOOD.
There is a lot of good in the teachings attributed to Jesus, but I think there are enough blind spots as to hold back from calling him perfect. This may well be down to how the scripture authors wanted to spin the story according to their own agendas, rather than Jesus's.
One is the attitude to sexuality, family life and community cohesion and sustainability. He encouraged his followers to leave and their families rather than support them. Human relationships seem to be seen as less important than the relationship with God.
He advocated accommodation with the Roman occupiers but had strong condemnation of people in his own racial group, such as the Pharisees. So why was it the Romans who crucified him, when in fact he was probably doing them a favour by causing splits in the Jews and weakening their ability to unite against the occupation?
He preached as if the end times were near, perhaps that's why he didn't think it was necessary to emphasise family life. But those end times never came, unless it relates to the Romans crushing the uprisings and destroying Judea as a country.
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11 hours ago, evanslr said:
Just posted an article about this on my blog with reasons for thinking why this could be true.
https://chipstero7.wordpress.com/2022/06/19/the-saturn-stargate-and-freemason-symbolism/
The link doesn't work for me, could be a location thing?
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7 minutes ago, Michi713 said:
Studying the Bible is not the equivalent of smoking a big fat bowl of weed.
Ha ha, luckily I can get it without smoking anything
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4 hours ago, alexa said:
King Charles the III head of the church of England should be held responsible for this Apostasy & to any changes that are going to take place within the scriptures.
The Lords prayer is the first to be changed, it's sick & it's all part & parcel of Satan's work.
https://www.trunews.com/stream/antichrist-church-of-england-may-eliminate-heavenly-father
As far as I remember it the Gospels do actually use the word translated as Father, and making God gender neutral is much more than a new translation, it's a completely new theology which hasn't come from a new revelation from God, but from human thought. They've moving away from the Apostles creed, the Nicene creed and the Thirty Nine Articles, and if this doesn't create a constitutional crises for England's established church, it will show just how much the PTB have destroyed the foundations here in England.
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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:
marx came from a long line of rabbis so i doubt he was anti-religion
I would argue he repackaged his religion as an outwardly secular pseudo-scientific political philosophy which conceals a passionate religious faith whereby the state becomes God and the communist party his priesthood.Stalin was also from a religious background, he trained as a priest, which I'm not surprised about.
1 hour ago, Macnamara said:In order to enslave europeans the sabbateans need to destroy the family unit and the cohesion of society. They do this through third wave, marxist feminism, critical theory, wokeism, lgbt agenda, antifa, BLM and the attacks on the church etc.
That's certainly how it looks; and what steps into the breach created by this destruction to clean up, but the big, supernanny, technocratic state.
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3 hours ago, alexa said:
Psalm 119:160 & John 14:6
2 hours ago, Michi713 said:You're only fooling yourself pretending to some rational, evidence-based, skeptic scholar.
Ah, I can see how my post could be construed that way, the whole religion vs rationalism thing can take over. That's not my intention tho. Sometimes language throws up paradoxes that I like to use to jump out of logical thought, like in Zen. Yes I've read the Bible verses, thanks for those: the Psalms one is new to me; the John one is very famous ofc. Saying something like 'I am the truth', or the Bible contains the whole truth, is exciting because of the Everything paradox (a version of self-reference). What's true is what exists, so if Jesus is the truth, then he's reality itself. Everything is Jesus, there is only Jesus. Or we could say the same about the Bible. And we're into the unity consciousness, monism, or nonduality. This kind of mysticism is the special contribution which religion can offer and takes us past the hard rationalism of science vs religion.
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5 hours ago, alexa said:
My belief is, if its not written in the Bible don't believe it.
Sorry no offence intended but ... Does the Bible itself tell us that it is the repository of all truth? If not, where do you get that belief from?
I do love a good self-reference
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God is the male name, Goddess is the female so I'm glad that God isn't shown as a woman or sitting on the fence! However, when you look at the classic image of Baphomet, s/he is a combination of both:
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All's fair in love and war ...... and car parking.
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23 hours ago, pi3141 said:
Communism is a relatively new comer to that game.
The Essenes were a communists sect and as James the Just, the leader of the Essenes, was Jesus' brother, its obvious Jesus' teachings would be influenced by it.
Interesting idea. Although if Essene-ism was communist then communism isn't so new. And there's the possibility that the communistic ideas predate the Essenes, if they learned them from elsewhere. I'm reading a book at the moment called 'A search for the historical Jesus' by Prof Fida Hassnain, which goes into the theories about Jesus (and Joseph) being an Essene initiate, along with John the Baptist, plus Jesus's travels further East into India. Stating that he studied Buddhism, which has a version of communism with its monasteries. I don't believe it all, but it has some good material which is adding to my theories about Jesus and his early movement.
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When it sounds too good to be true .....
" Rishi Sunak willing to defy Europe after finalising 'toughest' plans to stop migrants
Rishi Sunak is considering pulling out of the European Convention on Human Rights to stop up to 65,000 migrants this year. "
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1730965/rishi-sunak-migrant-crisis-european-convention-on-human-rightsit usually is.
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Obviously lots of sympathy for her family. I thought there was a law against putting bulls in fields with public footpaths in them, but maybe I'm out of date.
Most female animals with their children will be very defensive too, I would try and avoid them, especially with a dog.
I've had some scary times walking next to highland cattle (which have big horns) and getting into fields with bulls by accident. Bullocks can be scary too because they're quite inquisitive and run around in groups.
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So what's in it for us, why would we use digital currency instead of regular bank accounts if we have a choice? Maybe that's the point, like the camel's nose in the tent, once we start allowing this as a voluntary thing it will gradually crank up until it takes over. Like what's happening with electric cars.
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23 hours ago, MichelleMarko said:
It's important to care for our teeth and gums, especially if you can't go to a dentist.
Yes I hear it helps with our general health.
Poor oral hygiene could raise your risk of heart failure and stroke - new study
Researchers have discovered that periodontitis, a gum disease, is linked to atrial fibrosis.
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I vaguely remember a theory that the star of Bethlehem was really a comet, and that there was a comet at that time. If so, that would put a date on the nativity perhaps? And there's other date constraints eg the death of Herod to consider. But maybe that's for another thread.